Really well explained video it helped me with my fork rebuild, not long had my 2015 Bonneville newchurch with only 5,000 miles on it but could hear a clicking coming from the forks so decided to strip them and have a look, I was shocked to see both bushes with a lot of wear on them so decided to go with a Tec bike parts full fork upgrade progressive springs eliminators and adjustable pre load tops and the difference is massive. I was talking to a suspension firm who told me they have had speed twins in with 1,000 miles on them with worn bushes so not a good advert for triumph, but love watching your video's by far the best on RUclips.
Hi Ian, good to hear from you, and what a great plan to totally re-vamp your forks... I've also been shocked a few times at how quickly the factory bushes wear and replaced those in our bikes almost right away... great to hear the TEC kit did the job, not only is it great quality equipment, but great value too... and as a company their service has never let me down, they're there for the passion of bikes, not just for profits. Take care and keep safe and enjoy your new bike!
I am so glad you do these videos, I'll rather spend my money on tools on my bike than pay a mechanic. I have pride in doing my own maintenance at home, thank you!
Thanks so much delboy! Your video was a huge help, just finished rebuilding the right side shock after it was damaged when dropping the bike. Managed to swap out the lower for a new one and of course put new oil, seals etc in. Now she’s all better. Will look at those progressive springs too at some point. Couldn’t have done it without you.
Thanks Del! Five years on and this video is still helping people like me. Ive been having a hell of a time getting the damping bolt out of one of my forks, was ready to go to a machine shop and have special tool made, think ill try the broom handle method first! Thank you.
My 13 speedmaster forks are almost the same, I have played with different grade fork oils as I grew heavier! once I put hagons progressive springs in, I have lost alot of weight, time to change oil back to 10 grade, first fork all went ok, but second leg all ok apart from after tube,washer,spring & old oil out, pushing by hand pushed tube down, it jammed almost solid, only moving 1mm, no amount of rarving would pull it out, alan stud just turned round and round, watching your video has helped me 100%, I think the lower bush is my problem, hopefully by mid day tomorrow it will all be in pieces,....just need a brush shaft....
Stripping down my forks on my Scrambler and tried your broom handle method to extract bottom bolt. Great idea but did not worked in this instance. Purchased holding tool and still could not free bottom screw. I’ve found out since that Triumph stud lock the bottom bolt in place. Think they used super glue on mine. I’ve since drilled the head of the bolt and even in a tube vice and stud extractors the screw is stuck solid. Now just waiting for the Christmas post for the correct 9.1 drill bit and M10 x 1 tap to put onto lathe. Love your channel by the way. Keep the good stuff coming.
Damn, sounds like they didn't intend that to come out.. sounds like you got it though.. good luck and hope you can get it sorted mate... Happy new year.. Del.
Best forks video I’ve seen yet on RUclips. To the point and precise with no tomfoolery. One question I have is when you put the forks back on the bike, how do you make sure both are equal to each other when tightening up?
Hi there.. Thank you for your kind words, when re-installing fork legs, the machined bores of the top and bottom yokes will automatically align them with each other. . just tighten the pinch bolts first while leaving the top yoke centre nut till last, and you'll see, the steering will be bang on straight.
I used this video almost three years ago to help me learn how to fix a fork seal. Had it happen again on another bike and came back for my refresher course. TKS for the vid!
Great video....I am about to work on the forks of a 2007 Yamaha V-star 250!! First time I have ever done that type job....Your video has given me the confidence to tackle this job and I will be successful because of the information you give!! Thank you so much brother from Georgia, US!!
Hi TW, great to hear from you brother, and we're so glad the videos can help, it's an honour to be of use... we just wanted to say, we've seen on the news the weather reports of that big bad ass hurricane coming up through SC, NC and GA, are you gonna be ok, I do hope the bad boy isn't coming through your neighbourhood... keep us posted, we do hope you'll all be ok and safe.... all the best, D&Px
Yea its going to miss us! We have a large influx of people from those areas because of mandatory evacuation! I am just south of Atlanta, GA., about 30 miles!! We will probably get some rain but other than that, should be ok!! I'm suppose to go on a ride this weekend up to Chattanooga, Tn., but because of the storm, it might be postponed!! Thanks for asking! Hope you have a jolly good weekend (like the accent)...lol!!
Little tip for you, I too have a scissor lift just like yours, but I use my drill set at strongest setting, 3/8 socket (20mm) and 3/8 shaft, lift bike up and down no probs, but needs to be in low gear.
That was a really excellent instructional video, Del. Your demo and detailed explanations covered everything as far as I could tell... apart from the calibre of the wooden spike 😉. Nice production too. [I've done it once before but would really have liked to watch this video first, believe me!] Thanks D&PP 👍
Hi Keith, thanks so much for your kind support, it's very appreciated, we pride ourselves on making the videos as easy on the eye as we can, and try to cover filming all the steps, so it's good to know we're getting it right, thanks again, D&Px
Another wonderfully instructive video!! Changing the fork oil is actually my next job after greasing the suspension linkage arm. This is what happens when you buy a 18 year old bike with 16k miles and NO service history. Anyway, still waiting for my Abba stand as I am done mucking around with an ancient car jack, jack stands and ratchet straps tied to the railing on the parking lot! As far as which way around to install the springs, I use the Kawasaki maintenance manual and Haynes as my guide. Both tell me to install the tighter wound side down. On the F models it's the other way around. So, how they are thinking obviously varies from model to model, on essentially the same bike. So, I doubt if a catastrophe ensues if you just try it out and see what happens. On a different note, did you not do the whole fork balancing thing this time or is that only necessary under certain circumstances? Keep well and warm :)
Hi Patricia, good to hear from you again! With the progressive springs, I've tried them both ways up in Penny's Scrambler and neither of us can tell any difference either way, it rides the same, despite all the criticism that people make, it's usually based in 'guessed theory', many people take the view that to deviate one inch from the manual's recommendation is 'dangerous' and will cause imminent death which, of course, is most usually not the case at all... try these things for yourself, take your time and be careful, you sound like a competent person and you'll be just fine... with your final comment on fork balancing, am I right in presuming you mean 'fork alignment' so the front end rides straight? If so, then generally, if you take one fork out at a time and replace it before you take the other one out, then it should stay aligned... mis-alignment occurs when the top and bottom fork yoke (triple tree) twist against each other and rotate slightly, which causes the forks to sit out of alignment... olnly impact on the road, such as pot holes or kerb stones, can knock them out of alignment, but simply taking the forks our and putting them back in, shouldn't cause a problem, as long as the top nut on the top triple tree stays tight, they'll stay in position... Hope that helps you Patrician, take care, keep in touch, D&Px
Thank you for that missing bit of information. For me it will be essential to take out the forks one at a time anyway otherwise I'll probably end up mixing up parts between the two. According to Haynes that will also lead to imminent death ;). Good night!
Great video Del, but this is just a job I don't feel comfortable doing myself (I'd only fluff it). Have you thought about an LED signal video on the air cooled bonnie/scrambler, maybe the M-Blaze Pins? Virtually no install videos online and something I'd love to see.
The Scrambler's pretty much finished, but next year will mean a new bike build where we can look in to this kind of thing, so stay tuned Drew, lots more to come!
Very nice instructions on how to change seals on nice forks and changing with rust spots like mine the old video is right for me with rust spots the plastic seal driver is great and instructions to make it wish I had time time use mate the broom stick is is still classic wish I had a workshop I would know exactly where to ram that broom handle
Just found your channel and this fork rebuild video. I was curious because I paid $400 to have a shop do this for me today. I even took the forks off the bike and delivered them. Ugh, next time I'll check in here before paying a mechanic. Thanks for the awesome content!
Del never ceases to amaze me (I'm not a formally trained mechanic)how simular our work process is ..only because I work it out!! and cleaning said parts..I've seen many people fit fork seal first then fit tubes...mmmmmm ps I clamp tubes with wood ..in vice so as to basically lock both tubes then release bottom bolt...cheers from dave
Moonfleet41> week ago i did a fork rebuild on my 1999 Hornet CB600F and i Thank YOU for perfect videos on this topic! You were my inspiration and guide (of course workshop manual, but its much much better to see someone to do it step by step! i did also a steering head bearings thanks to you!! So thank you again! ;)
Hi Jan, thank you for your kind feedback, it's great to hear from you and we're glad you got yours sorted, thanks for taking the time to let us know, ride safe, all the best...
Noticed you put the progressive spring in with the close together coils down. 5:32 Was that intentional? I've gotten a pair of progressives for my Street Scrambler but the instructions say the the close coils should be up. I don't see why it would make a difference as long as they are the same. Anyone?
Hey Ali, how cool to hear from you all the way from LA, and yeah, funny how a daft old school trick still works better ten any fancy tools ha..! Glad to hear you got it done, have a great week.. all the best.. Del.
Will fly through the MOT no problem this bike. Speaking of which I passed mine yesterday and to my surprise the tester put my LED indicators as an advisory. Despite them flashing quicker than requested. Was expecting an instant fail which wouldnt have bothered me as a relay is on its way. Pleasantly surprised. Top work
Lol my old dog "failed" on a sticking front brake light switch and dodgy HID headlight, GT85 and a £13.90 (for 2) LED conversion, passed straight away. Bear in mind it is a 1999 Honda Deauville, can't be doing with them old fashioned bulbs anymore! lol
The tester was a nice enough guy too. Biker himself so little nit picky things he will overlook provided they aren't overly dangerous. Makes a change as in the past I have had some right miserable jobsworth testers
Great timing this morning! On my way to London on the coach, so perfect watch for the trip! Honestly, I learn more and more every video- I love it! Can't wait until I have the money and the space to do bits and bobs like this! Thank you for always being spot on Del, keep up the good work! :)
Thanks buddy, and also, thanks for such kind words, you said those two words right mate, the 'money and the space', if I had the money and the space, I'd open a self help people's garage with a big row of benches where guys could come along and fix their own stuff, and hey, we could even have a jukebox and a BBQ out back! Hope you had a safe trip, all the best, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Its ok Del, you always inspire me to keep going with my studies- no matter how rough it gets :) and honestly, I think you have it spot on there! There needs to be more places like that around the country! And Thankyou! Got there all ok, and got back in one piece too! ;) x
I really enjoyed your videos... absolutely thorough & very detailed.. Hv you considered swapping a GSX-R inverted fork on a Bonneville... I am planning to fork swap on my 2014 Mag wheeled Bonnie!! Haven’t been able to find a proper detailed step by step video guide.... Thanks Mate!!👍
Hi mate, yes I've thought of exactly that, I love the idea of putting sportsbike running gear in old style retro bikes, there is often more to it than you think though, if you want to put upside down forks on your Bonnie, you'll need some yokes to hold them at the exact correct width for the wheel you're proposing to use, am not sure if the mag wheel from your Bonnie will fit, it's certainly the correct size being a 3.5x17, but you have the issue of axle diameter, is the rim the same as the fork legs, then there is the fun and games of mounting the brakes... if you're gonna use forks with a radial caliper from a late GSXR then the discs need to be spaced so there's a lot to it mate... but it's a project I'm looking to take on myself in the next built, so will do videos of that some day, just gotta get the current build done first !
Hi, great video Dell, You let me down with your new seal driver ... lol I made my own homemade like you showed a couple of years ago and it works great ...lol have a nice ride with the good weather and new forks. Thanks for the video, Gus
Hi Gus, go for it with the plastic tube driver, they are perfectly sufficient, but I do about 6 sets of forks a year with friends and family bikes, so cold justify the price of the tool... hope you're having a good week, D&Px
Thanks Michael, just experimenting with a slightly different format and really just trying to keep things interesting, and fresh, can't stand still aye?!
Spot on mate , this vid is exactly what i needed! I've already swapped my Scrambler rear shocks for Nitron units so I'm about to tackle the front end at some point. I'm thinking about a Matris f15 cartridge kit so you've perfectly explained any problems I may come across. After that I'm calling the modifications good for a bit....yeah right 😉
haha good luck with that, I think we all say enough's enough, and then we spot the next thing lol Go for it mate, they're never finished are they?! Good luck with it mate, let us know how you get on with those fork inserts!
Great video Del and Penny. I think this video will help a lot of people for a long time to come. I like that seal driver.... got to get me one of them, then no more pvc pipe lol. Nice trick with the broom handle Del, I sometimes give a light shot with the rattle gun. Keep it shiny side up. Cheers
Great Video ! Thank you - I'll be using the Pencil Broom tip to get my Ducati Scrambler inner fork tubes undone - do you have any other pointers when rebuilding Ducati Scrambler forks ????
Do you have any clue where to find heavier springs or any way to make a 2013 Street Triple S front shocks to handle more weight. I think I have tried Race Tech and Traxxion Dynamics's with no luck. Or do shocks lose there tension after wear and tear? Any info would be appreciated, thanks a lot. I was thinking about trying and thicker oil but wasn't sure if that would even be worth it. My front forks keep bottoming out on bumps around the neighborhood. We do have pretty bad roads here though.
Hi buddy, interesting situation... I'm wondering if they're actually bottoming out, or something I've heard called hydro slamming... which is when you hit a pot hole that is so sharp and so instantaneous that the impact on the forks is too hard and fast for the oil to squish through the holes in the damper rods, so effectively it acts like a solid fork and you get a detectable impact... for your forks to bottom out on a standard Street Triple S, then you're either a mighty big lad over 20 stone, and if not, it's more likely your damping... Have you got the damping wound up too hard? If that's a maybe, then set everything to factory 'middle' settings and see if that improves it... if the fork oil has never been change din 6yrs, then for goodness sake, do that first before you make any changes, because 6yr old fork oil won't be performing well any more, should be swopped out every 2yrs for fresh. Once again, try that and see how it goes. Finally mate, it if it weight and you're just a big guy needing more front support, I don't know a source for heavier weight springs that would be aftermarket, but if I remember rightly the 'S' is the lightweight version of the bike, so perhaps look at changing for the regular springs from the non-S heavier bike? As in theory they're designed to support more weight, but they could actually well be the same springs though, so check the part numbers of the springs on both bikes with Triumph and if they're different part numbers, they'll be different springs... there's a few ideas buddy, hope that helps you.
Another great video. Love the brush handle tip. My bikes not at the stage yet, 3 years old and 2500 miles, great reference video will follow when doing mine or can you and Pen nip to MANCHESTER whilst we do mine, lol. Ta Ian.
Is it possible to replace the fork stanchions of a Street Scrambler with longer ones i.e. 1200 XC length? Would I need to replace my TEC spring or just the spacer? My goal is to make the bike taller as well as having some more travel. I have already increased the rear shock length and I am very happy with the geometry.
Nice video Dell and Penny, glad you showed me the broomstick trick that's very useful. I changed my fork seals a year or so ago using the plastic pipe method to remove and replace the seals and that worked great. Always look forward to seeing you guys. Thanks again, have a good day both of you and catch you on the weekend.
Cheers Andy, simple ol' school stuff aye?! I think the broomstick thing has been around since forks themselves lol... just common sense aye?? Glad it's been of help in some way mate...
Great production you two , I reckon that’s your best instructional video to date and very professional looking too , Only one criticism, I was so lulled into it watching it in silence that I nearly sh*t myself when you started to speak .DONT DO THAT AGAIN !
Ha ha, Sorry Charlie, just fancied getting one fork done first, then making a video of the other one... Hope you're having a good week mate, take care and keep in touch.. Del.
Excellent video. I’ll be doing this on my thruxton very soon. I was a bit nerd to do this on my own but this video helps me feel much better about doing it. Thanks
Cheers Del, given me the motivation to fully strip/rebuild rather than just change oil etc. Also going to stick(in my 2011 T100 865 efi) YSS emulators, pre-load adjusters, & Hagon progressives in c/w 10w oil,(some people saying 15w with emulators?). But great video as always matey! :)
I went with 15w oil after the Progressive Spring upgrade on my Yamaha 1300 V Star.Should have gone with 10w. Too firm for my liking and will swap it for 10w next oil change, and shorten the spacers 1/4" for less preload.
They could well be exactly the same mate as the end caps are normally a flat bolt head, but these are TEC adjustable pre-load caps to give a little more adjustability !
Hi Geoff, you too, and we mean that, we hope you're well, recovery is a long road aye mate? And I bet some days it feels like a step forward then a step back, but you'll be fit and well again soon enough, take care and keep in touch buddy, D&Px
Hello, thank you again for your video, I did the service to the suspension of my Triumph scrambler efi 2008 and I put only 500 ml the suspension was very loose, nothing rigid will it be that I should put the extra 17ml that is missing?
If I wanted to use a PVC pipe instead of a seal driver for this particular bike (41mm fork diameter if I'm not mistaken), what tube diameter should I get?
If you're using polypipe, the size isn't critical, you slice it along it's length then oppose the two openings... so id use some 40mm.. it's a common size in any DIY store mate.
Woah!! First time seeing the new garage. Love the video format where you show a sped up demo, then go into the Delboy explanation that I’ve come to love. I’m an official subscriber now. Shout out to Penny!!
Cheers buddy, I have many such precision tools like that, including a great range of hitting sticks for varied impact applications... ! Peas and loaf brother, now get that car port finished, you need a door on the front, a door on the back, and a nice waterproof roof and change it's name to 'garage', job done !
I think Im might tackle the valve clearance check on my T100. would you ever do that on Penny's Scambler? Reason I have had the mechanic at the dealership do simply jobs and buggered it (Heat grips upside down and not glued enough) and destroyed a couple of my allen key screws and bolts. A video on this would be great. :)
Hi Walt.. i will be doing the valve clearance check at 12 miles, but its a little way to go yet, but when the time comes, i will capture that on video for sure... its just a case of getting to these jobs as the come along.. Her bike is's a test mule so i cant very well go ripping into it for videos without the bike needing it... maybe my own bike.. but its not fair to do that to hers.... but once again buddy. i will make that a video win the bike hist 12k miles... Hope life is good mate, keep in touch.. Del,
Hi Del& Penny, Great watching the video, So it would appear that Triumph specs were already set optimally! Still it is good to fine tune the feelback, May it bring comfort and joy to your ride penny and no more rolling off the side stand! Hey Del, what effect does it have if the internal spacer tubes are altered? Kind regards Warren
Hi Warren, hope you're well mate... the tubes in this are cut down 2" and the springs aren't standard, they're the TEC bike parts progressive Thruxton springs, and it was a marked difference, just adding the Slinky Glide seals and washing out 5yrs of sludge... we didn't think that going down to 7.5w would make such a marked difference, but it truly does, I wouldn't say Triumph have optimised it, but the oil thickness certainly suits the damping spec and what I mean by that, is the size of the holes in the damper rod, now in really serious fork tuning, many people will weld up the damper rod holes and re-drill them smaller, but more of them, so changing the dynamic again... fork tuning is an endless quest for perfection and you'll never get it perfect for all riding... what you get with these forks is a set menu that seems to work, and we weren't prepared to get in to re-designing the damper rods, so going back to the 10w oil simply allows them to work best as they are !
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Mate, I'm good, Yeah absolutely get the QUEST FOR PERFECTION thing you were referring to, I wonder how many have been lost to just that one aspect of that Quest! Easy to get caught up, harder to stay clean! I do find most engineering solutions tend to settle upon the middling ground. As it is always desirable to have room to manoeuvre either way. It is not fruitless finding that out though, as much is learnt in the process! I Like the mudguard on the project K, I remember you said you like how beef the belly pan came out, and I know you put a lot of S & Tears into it, but Do you still feel it is the total look are will we be treated to an adjustment? Kind regards Warren
Hi Warren, Yeah i totally love the belly pan, its non negotiable, and looks just how i want it to.. the front mudgaurd looks a lot better now its smaller.. and today i painted the nose cone and belly pan in black basecoat... so it looks even more baddass...lol I wont bother making any more shape changes till after its on the road, and even then i may just stick with it and enjoy riding it.. 2 and a half years is logn enough thrashing on the same old bike.. i have lots of other more interesting things to be getting stuck into.. have a great weekend buddy, take care.. del.
Nice neat job as usual. Whenever I attempt the same procedure it takes me at least ten times as long and creates at minimum ten times the mess. When you roll a Trumpet onto the lift you always have my undivided attention.
When I watched you cutting the broom all I could think of was poor trigger, his broom is now buggered and he has had it such a long time :-) Enjoying the videos, keep up the great work. Take it easy.
haha no way brother, I look after me broom lol... it's now been promoted to a multi-functional garage assistance device, Snap-On will be selling them next week for £300 each with a lifetime guarantee!
Hi there, the closest video I would have to help you would be the fork re-build on our Kawasaki streetfighter project, the forks may not be identical, but they are upside forks from a Jap sportsbike, so they will at least be similar, the video will be in our Streetfighter Playlist, and the Garage Maintenance Playlist... or just Google Dleboy's Garage Upside Down Fork Seals... hope it helps!
Stumped: Rebuilt my forks, new seals, dust cover, did everything you did in this video. Calls for 484 cc. put it in, at least 20 inches from the top of the fork. Converting the 166 mm to inches, should be around 6.5 inches. Top tube is all the way compressed. Any suggestions what's going on?
@@Moonfleet41 Yeah, I had a complete and utter brain fart. Put the damper in, THEN the upper tube....(don't drink and wrench), stupid mistake. Took it apart and rectified it, then came up with my new motto: "If you want to learn to do something right. Do it wrong the 1st time". I guess the 20" makes sense now. Thanks for your reply and if anyone else has this question....you know what it is.
Very nice rebuild. Do you know if Scrambler and T120 share the same size forks. I have 2018 T120 with bent fork tubes size 41 mm x 602 mm . I was wondering if they are interchangeable. Thanks
Not sure about the overall length, but "Bikez.com" lists them the same diameter, and the same 120mm travel.. also the T120 shows as a cartridge fork.... and one inch bigger wheel in the Scrambler.. hope that helps. good luck with it.
Hello Del, Hope you don't mind me asking, I have an 865 Mag wheel Bonnie owned from new and I'm seriously thinking of changing to one of the new Water Cooled Bonnie's - Street Twin or T100. Can I just ask, do you have any thoughts on the new range of Bonnie's compared to the older 865 bikes? Thank you for taking the time to read my text and Ride Safe. Cheers Keith
Hi Keith, They are both great bikes, and like all things it depends on your enjoyment of riding... Penny loves here 865 Scrambler and wouldn't part with it.. so why not take a few test rides and see how you feel.. the dealers always have demo bikes for you to try out..?
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del, many thanks for your reply, only one way to find out - 2.30pm this coming Saturday 6th - booked a Test ride on the Street Twin. Really excited. Cheers Keith
Excellent video. Very helpful and picked up a few new tricks from the previous video. Thanks again to the both of you for making these informative videos. Ride safe.
Helo Del! I was watching this video, and I would have a question. I feel at the motorcycle that the first telescope is too hard. Larger way off the front and big bumps on the steering wheel. I was advised to replace the 10W oil in it with a 5W number. What do you think would be the solution? Thank you in advance, Valantine.
Hi Valantine, fork oil is inexpensive, so you could make an experiment, just try the lighter oil and see how you like it... if it doesn't work, you can drain that out and go back to the original mate...
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del! Thanks for the reply. If I only put 5w of oil into it will not be too soft? Did you see you shuffling it off, what do you think would be better? Welcome to Valentine.
@@becobalint7899 Try just it out Beco and if you don't like it you can change back, there is only way to tell and that is try and and ride your bike and see how it feels!
That almost eager sounding Yes on the question "shall we pop it back in the bike" made me laugh. I bet miss Penny jumped on her bike immediately 😂. Good video 👍👍👍 and nice to see the memories on the wall.
Hi Christopher, we've glad you saw them go up, pride of place mate, and honoured to have them.. thank you again for your kind gift, all safe ! Have a great week, all the very best, D&Px
When installing the fork legs back in,do i have to take special care of the alignment so the axle can go through easily? Or do they move freely,the fork legs?
😖 hello scratch in the fork leg This is why all my bikes are ratters, so I can't cringe at all the scratches and scuffs I put on em with my heavy handedness 😁
Not at all, thankfully it was a trick of the light Gary, if you look at the avatar picture, that's a freeze frame of that very fork leg laid on it's outside face, not a scratch in sight, but it's all too easy to do, I agree, which is why I like ratters also !
That's good then, The one bike I didn't want to damage was my mates new 2018 intruder 800 that he wanted me to do some electrical work on, I had to take the rear end plastics off and sure enough I knocked the bloody thing off the bench onto a nice rough concrete floor and scratched the lip of the mudguard deep enough to take all the paint off down to plastic and more , good job we've been mates for so long or I would of been paying out for new paint even though I didn't want payment for the job lol . Live and learn I suppose
I'm putting an Ohlins nix22 cartridge kit in a speed twin. The kit is for a thruxton 1200 non R. I guess they are different forks, thought they were the same. I need to put a spacer on top of one of the top out spring.My question is, is that safe to have the spacer on top of the top out spring?
You said "I need to put a spacer in"... is there already a spacer in your forks, (like in the Bonnevlle)?, and is that on top, (it should be), if so, then it's always a good idea to go with what the factory did.. if there is no spacer in there.. and yours is all spring.. are you fitting a spacer for more preload?.. if so you can buy some adjustable preload fork caps from TEC bike parts..!
Hi Ian, I know i maybe go on about it a lot with the fighter build, but you can't beat "Simoniz Tough Paint" they do a clear acrylic lacquer for £4.44 a can at "Car Parts 4 Less".. great company with great fast delivery... Hope that helps mate, ive not used it myself, but their other paints have always been a great success... good luck with it.. Del.
If you have in any way modified the contents of your fork legs.. then go with the oil level height rather then quantity as the level will change according to the hardware contents, and its important not to overfill the leg.. dont know the levle off the top of my head, its on your service manual though.. hope that helps.
Yes you can mate, it's the same overall carcass circumference across the radius, but simply more is sidewall and less is tread, so it's kinda not the clever way to go, if you're gonna make that swop, then it's better to go the other way from 100 to 110 as you end up with more tread area as opposed to what you're looking at, which will leave you with a lesser tread area, but hey we're only talking about a total of 10mm in tread width, and if you look at your current 110/80 and see how much of the sides of that tread are untouched, then you'll know whether you're using it all , or not... if you currently have 10mm either side untouched, then you're reasonably safe to drop down to 100, but if your front tyre is worn almost off the edges already, then I would steer clear and get a 110/80, as you clearly use it all , hope that helps mate, all the best, D&Px
Perfect solution and probably better than the milk carton as it's thinner, it doesn't pay to stretch the seal too much, but I think maybe more of us have a milk carton in the bin than acetate int the drawer, but if you have some, then it's definitely a better solution !
Hi Del- very different start to this video! Loved these kind of primers... was quite surprised to see that the 7.5 vs 10 weight would be that noticeable. Good stuff. What was the spray agent you used to clean the tubes and bits? Greetings from Hong Kong today to both of you! 🏍👍🏍
Gary A: Hi Gary, oh my word, you globetrotter! Am so jealous of your job lol...! Seriously like bigtw09 said, it's brake and carb cleaner, you could use practically anything that cleans oil off, WD40, GT85, or even just mineral spirits, but brake cleaner is particularly good cos it dries away by itself and leaves zero residue... take care, chat soon, all the very best, D&Px
Moonfleet41 great video for learners like me, Del. Actually wish I was home to help the wife with the storm prep. Fingers crossed we’re all spared. Thx for all you guys do.
Hi again Gary, OMG, i didn't know you were in the path, we both send out love, good luck and god speed that it passes right by you all... I can imagine how you must feel being so far away and unable to help... Keep us posted brother, love from us both.. Del & Pennyx
Really well explained video it helped me with my fork rebuild, not long had my 2015 Bonneville newchurch with only 5,000 miles on it but could hear a clicking coming from the forks so decided to strip them and have a look, I was shocked to see both bushes with a lot of wear on them so decided to go with a Tec bike parts full fork upgrade progressive springs eliminators and adjustable pre load tops and the difference is massive. I was talking to a suspension firm who told me they have had speed twins in with 1,000 miles on them with worn bushes so not a good advert for triumph, but love watching your video's by far the best on RUclips.
Hi Ian, good to hear from you, and what a great plan to totally re-vamp your forks... I've also been shocked a few times at how quickly the factory bushes wear and replaced those in our bikes almost right away... great to hear the TEC kit did the job, not only is it great quality equipment, but great value too... and as a company their service has never let me down, they're there for the passion of bikes, not just for profits. Take care and keep safe and enjoy your new bike!
I am so glad you do these videos, I'll rather spend my money on tools on my bike than pay a mechanic. I have pride in doing my own maintenance at home, thank you!
Good methodical job del! The old tricks with the milk carton are the best to preserve the seals for us older bike riders!
Too right mate, how many times have we nicked a seal on installation !
Thanks so much delboy! Your video was a huge help, just finished rebuilding the right side shock after it was damaged when dropping the bike. Managed to swap out the lower for a new one and of course put new oil, seals etc in. Now she’s all better. Will look at those progressive springs too at some point. Couldn’t have done it without you.
Glad it helped Ashley, and that your bike is back together after your drop, ride safe and thanks for your feedback!
Thanks Del! Five years on and this video is still helping people like me. Ive been having a hell of a time getting the damping bolt out of one of my forks, was ready to go to a machine shop and have special tool made, think ill try the broom handle method first! Thank you.
Most welcome mate, am glad the video can help, and good luck with it!
My 13 speedmaster forks are almost the same, I have played with different grade fork oils as I grew heavier! once I put hagons progressive springs in, I have lost alot of weight, time to change oil back to 10 grade, first fork all went ok, but second leg all ok apart from after tube,washer,spring & old oil out, pushing by hand pushed tube down, it jammed almost solid, only moving 1mm, no amount of rarving would pull it out, alan stud just turned round and round, watching your video has helped me 100%, I think the lower bush is my problem, hopefully by mid day tomorrow it will all be in pieces,....just need a brush shaft....
Yeh Both of mine are stuck like that...
Any suggestions on how I can fix it?
Stripping down my forks on my Scrambler and tried your broom handle method to extract bottom bolt. Great idea but did not worked in this instance. Purchased holding tool and still could not free bottom screw. I’ve found out since that Triumph stud lock the bottom bolt in place. Think they used super glue on mine. I’ve since drilled the head of the bolt and even in a tube vice and stud extractors the screw is stuck solid. Now just waiting for the Christmas post for the correct 9.1 drill bit and M10 x 1 tap to put onto lathe. Love your channel by the way. Keep the good stuff coming.
Damn, sounds like they didn't intend that to come out.. sounds like you got it though.. good luck and hope you can get it sorted mate... Happy new year.. Del.
That's what I call a real mechanic. Clean, creative and do the job with no drama.
No dramas indeed brother, it's a simple little task that anyone can do...thank you for your kind words!
Best forks video I’ve seen yet on RUclips. To the point and precise with no tomfoolery. One question I have is when you put the forks back on the bike, how do you make sure both are equal to each other when tightening up?
Hi there.. Thank you for your kind words, when re-installing fork legs, the machined bores of the top and bottom yokes will automatically align them with each other. . just tighten the pinch bolts first while leaving the top yoke centre nut till last, and you'll see, the steering will be bang on straight.
@@Moonfleet41 thank you for the information! How about getting the height of each one equal? Does that need to be measured specially?
@@Deetroiter That's not hard buddy, just wriggle them up till the caps clear the top yoke and pinch it up, dead easy to get them equal height.
I used this video almost three years ago to help me learn how to fix a fork seal. Had it happen again on another bike and came back for my refresher course. TKS for the vid!
Most welcome sir, im glad it could help you out. !
Great video....I am about to work on the forks of a 2007 Yamaha V-star 250!! First time I have ever done that type job....Your video has given me the confidence to tackle this job and I will be successful because of the information you give!! Thank you so much brother from Georgia, US!!
Hi TW, great to hear from you brother, and we're so glad the videos can help, it's an honour to be of use... we just wanted to say, we've seen on the news the weather reports of that big bad ass hurricane coming up through SC, NC and GA, are you gonna be ok, I do hope the bad boy isn't coming through your neighbourhood... keep us posted, we do hope you'll all be ok and safe.... all the best, D&Px
Yea its going to miss us! We have a large influx of people from those areas because of mandatory evacuation! I am just south of Atlanta, GA., about 30 miles!! We will probably get some rain but other than that, should be ok!! I'm suppose to go on a ride this weekend up to Chattanooga, Tn., but because of the storm, it might be postponed!! Thanks for asking! Hope you have a jolly good weekend (like the accent)...lol!!
9:36 Stuck damper rod removal is a great tip if your damper rod fork removal tool does not fit for your bike.
Little tip for you, I too have a scissor lift just like yours, but I use my drill set at strongest setting, 3/8 socket (20mm) and 3/8 shaft, lift bike up and down no probs, but needs to be in low gear.
That was a really excellent instructional video, Del. Your demo and detailed explanations covered everything as far as I could tell... apart from the calibre of the wooden spike 😉.
Nice production too.
[I've done it once before but would really have liked to watch this video first, believe me!]
Thanks D&PP 👍
Hi Keith, thanks so much for your kind support, it's very appreciated, we pride ourselves on making the videos as easy on the eye as we can, and try to cover filming all the steps, so it's good to know we're getting it right, thanks again, D&Px
Another wonderfully instructive video!! Changing the fork oil is actually my next job after greasing the suspension linkage arm. This is what happens when you buy a 18 year old bike with 16k miles and NO service history. Anyway, still waiting for my Abba stand as I am done mucking around with an ancient car jack, jack stands and ratchet straps tied to the railing on the parking lot! As far as which way around to install the springs, I use the Kawasaki maintenance manual and Haynes as my guide. Both tell me to install the tighter wound side down. On the F models it's the other way around. So, how they are thinking obviously varies from model to model, on essentially the same bike. So, I doubt if a catastrophe ensues if you just try it out and see what happens.
On a different note, did you not do the whole fork balancing thing this time or is that only necessary under certain circumstances?
Keep well and warm :)
Hi Patricia, good to hear from you again! With the progressive springs, I've tried them both ways up in Penny's Scrambler and neither of us can tell any difference either way, it rides the same, despite all the criticism that people make, it's usually based in 'guessed theory', many people take the view that to deviate one inch from the manual's recommendation is 'dangerous' and will cause imminent death which, of course, is most usually not the case at all... try these things for yourself, take your time and be careful, you sound like a competent person and you'll be just fine... with your final comment on fork balancing, am I right in presuming you mean 'fork alignment' so the front end rides straight? If so, then generally, if you take one fork out at a time and replace it before you take the other one out, then it should stay aligned... mis-alignment occurs when the top and bottom fork yoke (triple tree) twist against each other and rotate slightly, which causes the forks to sit out of alignment... olnly impact on the road, such as pot holes or kerb stones, can knock them out of alignment, but simply taking the forks our and putting them back in, shouldn't cause a problem, as long as the top nut on the top triple tree stays tight, they'll stay in position... Hope that helps you Patrician, take care, keep in touch, D&Px
Thank you for that missing bit of information. For me it will be essential to take out the forks one at a time anyway otherwise I'll probably end up mixing up parts between the two. According to Haynes that will also lead to imminent death ;). Good night!
Great video Del, but this is just a job I don't feel comfortable doing myself (I'd only fluff it). Have you thought about an LED signal video on the air cooled bonnie/scrambler, maybe the M-Blaze Pins? Virtually no install videos online and something I'd love to see.
The Scrambler's pretty much finished, but next year will mean a new bike build where we can look in to this kind of thing, so stay tuned Drew, lots more to come!
Very nice instructions on how to change seals on nice forks and changing with rust spots like mine the old video is right for me with rust spots the plastic seal driver is great and instructions to make it wish I had time time use mate the broom stick is is still classic wish I had a workshop I would know exactly where to ram that broom handle
I think there would be a queue mate..!
Also handy to have the broom around in case of Vampires!
Just found your channel and this fork rebuild video. I was curious because I paid $400 to have a shop do this for me today. I even took the forks off the bike and delivered them. Ugh, next time I'll check in here before paying a mechanic. Thanks for the awesome content!
My word, that's a lot of money, but labour rates are pretty stiff these days, it soon adds up!
Del never ceases to amaze me (I'm not a formally trained mechanic)how simular our work process is ..only because I work it out!! and cleaning said parts..I've seen many people fit fork seal first then fit tubes...mmmmmm ps I clamp tubes with wood ..in vice so as to basically lock both tubes then release bottom bolt...cheers from dave
Moonfleet41> week ago i did a fork rebuild on my 1999 Hornet CB600F and i Thank YOU for perfect videos on this topic! You were my inspiration and guide (of course workshop manual, but its much much better to see someone to do it step by step! i did also a steering head bearings thanks to you!!
So thank you again! ;)
Hi Jan, thank you for your kind feedback, it's great to hear from you and we're glad you got yours sorted, thanks for taking the time to let us know, ride safe, all the best...
Noticed you put the progressive spring in with the close together coils down. 5:32 Was that intentional?
I've gotten a pair of progressives for my Street Scrambler but the instructions say the the close coils should be up. I don't see why it would make a difference as long as they are the same. Anyone?
I tried every special tool I could think of for the damper rod and the broom stick won out in the end. Cheers from Los Angeles!
Hey Ali, how cool to hear from you all the way from LA, and yeah, funny how a daft old school trick still works better ten any fancy tools ha..! Glad to hear you got it done, have a great week.. all the best.. Del.
Will fly through the MOT no problem this bike. Speaking of which I passed mine yesterday and to my surprise the tester put my LED indicators as an advisory. Despite them flashing quicker than requested. Was expecting an instant fail which wouldnt have bothered me as a relay is on its way. Pleasantly surprised. Top work
Congratulations mate, always feels good when it passes aye, specially when you get a lenient attitude!
Lol my old dog "failed" on a sticking front brake light switch and dodgy HID headlight, GT85 and a £13.90 (for 2) LED conversion, passed straight away. Bear in mind it is a 1999 Honda Deauville, can't be doing with them old fashioned bulbs anymore! lol
The tester was a nice enough guy too. Biker himself so little nit picky things he will overlook provided they aren't overly dangerous. Makes a change as in the past I have had some right miserable jobsworth testers
Great timing this morning! On my way to London on the coach, so perfect watch for the trip! Honestly, I learn more and more every video- I love it! Can't wait until I have the money and the space to do bits and bobs like this! Thank you for always being spot on Del, keep up the good work! :)
Thanks buddy, and also, thanks for such kind words, you said those two words right mate, the 'money and the space', if I had the money and the space, I'd open a self help people's garage with a big row of benches where guys could come along and fix their own stuff, and hey, we could even have a jukebox and a BBQ out back! Hope you had a safe trip, all the best, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Its ok Del, you always inspire me to keep going with my studies- no matter how rough it gets :) and honestly, I think you have it spot on there! There needs to be more places like that around the country! And Thankyou! Got there all ok, and got back in one piece too! ;) x
Thank you so much for sharing a true method for maintaining one's Triumph! The wooden broom was brilliant and saved me a ton of trouble!
Most welcome Sir, glad it helped you!
I really enjoyed your videos... absolutely thorough & very detailed.. Hv you considered swapping a GSX-R inverted fork on a Bonneville... I am planning to fork swap on my 2014 Mag wheeled Bonnie!! Haven’t been able to find a proper detailed step by step video guide.... Thanks Mate!!👍
Hi mate, yes I've thought of exactly that, I love the idea of putting sportsbike running gear in old style retro bikes, there is often more to it than you think though, if you want to put upside down forks on your Bonnie, you'll need some yokes to hold them at the exact correct width for the wheel you're proposing to use, am not sure if the mag wheel from your Bonnie will fit, it's certainly the correct size being a 3.5x17, but you have the issue of axle diameter, is the rim the same as the fork legs, then there is the fun and games of mounting the brakes... if you're gonna use forks with a radial caliper from a late GSXR then the discs need to be spaced so there's a lot to it mate... but it's a project I'm looking to take on myself in the next built, so will do videos of that some day, just gotta get the current build done first !
Hi, great video Dell, You let me down with your new seal driver ... lol I made my own homemade like you showed a couple of years ago and it works great ...lol have a nice ride with the good weather and new forks. Thanks for the video, Gus
Hi Gus, go for it with the plastic tube driver, they are perfectly sufficient, but I do about 6 sets of forks a year with friends and family bikes, so cold justify the price of the tool... hope you're having a good week, D&Px
I like how you did that, gave me a chance to formulate my questions which you answered the second time around.
Thanks Michael, just experimenting with a slightly different format and really just trying to keep things interesting, and fresh, can't stand still aye?!
Double thumbs up on that
Spot on mate , this vid is exactly what i needed! I've already swapped my Scrambler rear shocks for Nitron units so I'm about to tackle the front end at some point. I'm thinking about a Matris f15 cartridge kit so you've perfectly explained any problems I may come across. After that I'm calling the modifications good for a bit....yeah right 😉
haha good luck with that, I think we all say enough's enough, and then we spot the next thing lol Go for it mate, they're never finished are they?! Good luck with it mate, let us know how you get on with those fork inserts!
Great video, it’s given me the confidence to rebuild my Speed Triple forks :)
Great video Del and Penny. I think this video will help a lot of people for a long time to come. I like that seal driver.... got to get me one of them, then no more pvc pipe lol. Nice trick with the broom handle Del, I sometimes give a light shot with the rattle gun. Keep it shiny side up. Cheers
Cheers buddy, yeah, a rattle gun is truly a wonder tool aye... have a good week and ride safe.. Del.
Now you don't know if it was the oil mix, or the upside down springs causing the difference ;)
Weell It'll take all of ten minutes to swap the springs around if one needs to test :D
This is the pure art of motorcycling 🏍
Great Video ! Thank you - I'll be using the Pencil Broom tip to get my Ducati Scrambler inner fork tubes undone - do you have any other pointers when rebuilding Ducati Scrambler forks ????
Do you have any clue where to find heavier springs or any way to make a 2013 Street Triple S front shocks to handle more weight. I think I have tried Race Tech and Traxxion Dynamics's with no luck. Or do shocks lose there tension after wear and tear? Any info would be appreciated, thanks a lot. I was thinking about trying and thicker oil but wasn't sure if that would even be worth it. My front forks keep bottoming out on bumps around the neighborhood. We do have pretty bad roads here though.
Hi buddy, interesting situation... I'm wondering if they're actually bottoming out, or something I've heard called hydro slamming... which is when you hit a pot hole that is so sharp and so instantaneous that the impact on the forks is too hard and fast for the oil to squish through the holes in the damper rods, so effectively it acts like a solid fork and you get a detectable impact... for your forks to bottom out on a standard Street Triple S, then you're either a mighty big lad over 20 stone, and if not, it's more likely your damping...
Have you got the damping wound up too hard? If that's a maybe, then set everything to factory 'middle' settings and see if that improves it... if the fork oil has never been change din 6yrs, then for goodness sake, do that first before you make any changes, because 6yr old fork oil won't be performing well any more, should be swopped out every 2yrs for fresh. Once again, try that and see how it goes.
Finally mate, it if it weight and you're just a big guy needing more front support, I don't know a source for heavier weight springs that would be aftermarket, but if I remember rightly the 'S' is the lightweight version of the bike, so perhaps look at changing for the regular springs from the non-S heavier bike? As in theory they're designed to support more weight, but they could actually well be the same springs though, so check the part numbers of the springs on both bikes with Triumph and if they're different part numbers, they'll be different springs... there's a few ideas buddy, hope that helps you.
Another great video. Love the brush handle tip. My bikes not at the stage yet, 3 years old and 2500 miles, great reference video will follow when doing mine or can you and Pen nip to MANCHESTER whilst we do mine, lol. Ta Ian.
Thats the way Ian, save it for reference later, you can use it when the time comes.. !! take care mate, good to hear from you.. Del.
24:58 What happens if you don't put it in? Will it be shorter? Any performance problems?
@Delboy's Garage from your experience, has the quality of the Slinky Glide seals been on par with Triumph?
Is it possible to replace the fork stanchions of a Street Scrambler with longer ones i.e. 1200 XC length? Would I need to replace my TEC spring or just the spacer? My goal is to make the bike taller as well as having some more travel. I have already increased the rear shock length and I am very happy with the geometry.
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Nice video Dell and Penny, glad you showed me the broomstick trick that's very useful. I changed my fork seals a year or so ago using the plastic pipe method to remove and replace the seals and that worked great. Always look forward to seeing you guys. Thanks again, have a good day both of you and catch you on the weekend.
Cheers Andy, simple ol' school stuff aye?! I think the broomstick thing has been around since forks themselves lol... just common sense aye?? Glad it's been of help in some way mate...
Great production you two , I reckon that’s your best instructional video to date and very professional looking too , Only one criticism, I was so lulled into it watching it in silence that I nearly sh*t myself when you started to speak .DONT DO THAT AGAIN !
Ha ha, Sorry Charlie, just fancied getting one fork done first, then making a video of the other one... Hope you're having a good week mate, take care and keep in touch.. Del.
After watching your inspiring videos, I've managed to rebuild my 1987 Yamaha Fj 1200 :-)
Thank you most kindly, and congratulations on rebuilding your FJ, what an iconic bike.. Ride safe and enjoy it.. Del.
Lots of work. Glad Penny will enjoy riding again 🤗 Penny and You Ride safely and Have A Wonderful weekend.
Hi Paul, Great to hear from you buddy, hope life is good and you're still having good weather over there.. take care buddy... and rude safe.. D&Px
Moonfleet41 yes I'm having good weather and thank you.
The broom trick.. If it looks stupid but it works then its not stupid 😂
Excellent video. I’ll be doing this on my thruxton very soon. I was a bit nerd to do this on my own but this video helps me feel much better about doing it. Thanks
Cheers Del, given me the motivation to fully strip/rebuild rather than just change oil etc.
Also going to stick(in my 2011 T100 865 efi) YSS emulators, pre-load adjusters, & Hagon progressives in c/w 10w oil,(some people saying 15w with emulators?). But great video as always matey! :)
I went with 15w oil after the Progressive Spring upgrade on my Yamaha 1300 V Star.Should have gone with 10w. Too firm for my liking and will swap it for 10w next oil change, and shorten the spacers 1/4" for less preload.
Apart from the spring end cap look very much like kwak ER5 forks. Another great video thanks.
They could well be exactly the same mate as the end caps are normally a flat bolt head, but these are TEC adjustable pre-load caps to give a little more adjustability !
great video. I have to do my 85 gsxr750. this helps a lot. especially the broom stick trick
Very well explained video there guys, hope you're both well . All the best & take care x👍👍😎
Hi Geoff, you too, and we mean that, we hope you're well, recovery is a long road aye mate? And I bet some days it feels like a step forward then a step back, but you'll be fit and well again soon enough, take care and keep in touch buddy, D&Px
Thank you so much for this instructional video. Really helped a lot! Cheers!
Hello, thank you again for your video, I did the service to the suspension of my Triumph scrambler efi 2008 and I put only 500 ml the suspension was very loose, nothing rigid will it be that I should put the extra 17ml that is missing?
Great use of a broom handle. Never knew that. Many thanks.
Old as the hills mate, but you probably won't find it in any manual..!
If I wanted to use a PVC pipe instead of a seal driver for this particular bike (41mm fork diameter if I'm not mistaken), what tube diameter should I get?
If you're using polypipe, the size isn't critical, you slice it along it's length then oppose the two openings... so id use some 40mm.. it's a common size in any DIY store mate.
Woah!! First time seeing the new garage. Love the video format where you show a sped up demo, then go into the Delboy explanation that I’ve come to love. I’m an official subscriber now. Shout out to Penny!!
Glad you liked it Ryan, and welcome aboard mate... Enjoy the videos. !
@@Moonfleet41 Will do man!! Jumping on this project then spending the day in the canyons 👍🏼
my forks are exactly the same on my 1100 honda shadow .good idea with the wood handle will remember it . I hate changing fork seals lol
DB and PP good job nice to see the clutch aligning tool getting used for forks as well 2 for the price of 1 ..
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Cheers buddy, I have many such precision tools like that, including a great range of hitting sticks for varied impact applications... ! Peas and loaf brother, now get that car port finished, you need a door on the front, a door on the back, and a nice waterproof roof and change it's name to 'garage', job done !
Great video, very helpful, and i like the tricks. Also, thanks for not overdubbing with cruddy white kid club music. Excellent job!
Good stuff. I dont think i have ever removed the dust cover from the fork without damaging it lol.
Try wrapping a cloth round it and easing it up with a screw driver blade carefully..!
I love videos like this!! Keep em coming Del & Penny!!
I think Im might tackle the valve clearance check on my T100. would you ever do that on Penny's Scambler? Reason I have had the mechanic at the dealership do simply jobs and buggered it (Heat grips upside down and not glued enough) and destroyed a couple of my allen key screws and bolts. A video on this would be great. :)
Hi Walt.. i will be doing the valve clearance check at 12 miles, but its a little way to go yet, but when the time comes, i will capture that on video for sure... its just a case of getting to these jobs as the come along.. Her bike is's a test mule so i cant very well go ripping into it for videos without the bike needing it... maybe my own bike.. but its not fair to do that to hers.... but once again buddy. i will make that a video win the bike hist 12k miles... Hope life is good mate, keep in touch.. Del,
Hi Del& Penny,
Great watching the video,
So it would appear that Triumph specs were already set optimally!
Still it is good to fine tune the feelback, May it bring comfort and joy to your ride penny and no more rolling off the side stand!
Hey Del, what effect does it have if the internal spacer tubes are altered?
Kind regards Warren
Hi Warren, hope you're well mate... the tubes in this are cut down 2" and the springs aren't standard, they're the TEC bike parts progressive Thruxton springs, and it was a marked difference, just adding the Slinky Glide seals and washing out 5yrs of sludge... we didn't think that going down to 7.5w would make such a marked difference, but it truly does, I wouldn't say Triumph have optimised it, but the oil thickness certainly suits the damping spec and what I mean by that, is the size of the holes in the damper rod, now in really serious fork tuning, many people will weld up the damper rod holes and re-drill them smaller, but more of them, so changing the dynamic again... fork tuning is an endless quest for perfection and you'll never get it perfect for all riding... what you get with these forks is a set menu that seems to work, and we weren't prepared to get in to re-designing the damper rods, so going back to the 10w oil simply allows them to work best as they are !
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Mate, I'm good,
Yeah absolutely get the QUEST FOR PERFECTION thing you were referring to, I wonder how many have been lost to just that one aspect of that Quest!
Easy to get caught up, harder to stay clean!
I do find most engineering solutions tend to settle upon the middling ground. As it is always desirable to have room to manoeuvre either way.
It is not fruitless finding that out though, as much is learnt in the process!
I Like the mudguard on the project K, I remember you said you like how beef the belly pan came out, and I know you put a lot of S & Tears into it, but Do you still feel it is the total look are will we be treated to an adjustment?
Kind regards Warren
Hi Warren, Yeah i totally love the belly pan, its non negotiable, and looks just how i want it to.. the front mudgaurd looks a lot better now its smaller.. and today i painted the nose cone and belly pan in black basecoat... so it looks even more baddass...lol I wont bother making any more shape changes till after its on the road, and even then i may just stick with it and enjoy riding it.. 2 and a half years is logn enough thrashing on the same old bike.. i have lots of other more interesting things to be getting stuck into.. have a great weekend buddy, take care.. del.
Nice neat job as usual. Whenever I attempt the same procedure it takes me at least ten times as long and creates at minimum ten times the mess. When you roll a Trumpet onto the lift you always have my undivided attention.
Thanks Marc, it will always be something to enjoy as Penny makes sure that her bike gets all the attention it needs !
When I watched you cutting the broom all I could think of was poor trigger, his broom is now buggered and he has had it such a long time :-) Enjoying the videos, keep up the great work. Take it easy.
haha no way brother, I look after me broom lol... it's now been promoted to a multi-functional garage assistance device, Snap-On will be selling them next week for £300 each with a lifetime guarantee!
Amazing!! Please Whith is the most similar video to Rebuild fork for R1?? Manu Thanks.Please dont stop doing that never!!
Hi there, the closest video I would have to help you would be the fork re-build on our Kawasaki streetfighter project, the forks may not be identical, but they are upside forks from a Jap sportsbike, so they will at least be similar, the video will be in our Streetfighter Playlist, and the Garage Maintenance Playlist... or just Google Dleboy's Garage Upside Down Fork Seals... hope it helps!
Stumped: Rebuilt my forks, new seals, dust cover, did everything you did in this video. Calls for 484 cc. put it in, at least 20 inches from the top of the fork. Converting the 166 mm to inches, should be around 6.5 inches. Top tube is all the way compressed. Any suggestions what's going on?
Your question doesn't make sense... "20 inches from the top of the fork"...???
@@Moonfleet41 Yeah, I had a complete and utter brain fart. Put the damper in, THEN the upper tube....(don't drink and wrench), stupid mistake. Took it apart and rectified it, then came up with my new motto: "If you want to learn to do something right. Do it wrong the 1st time". I guess the 20" makes sense now. Thanks for your reply and if anyone else has this question....you know what it is.
Very nice rebuild. Do you know if Scrambler and T120 share the same size forks. I have 2018 T120 with bent fork tubes size 41 mm x 602 mm . I was wondering if they are interchangeable. Thanks
Not sure about the overall length, but "Bikez.com" lists them the same diameter, and the same 120mm travel.. also the T120 shows as a cartridge fork.... and one inch bigger wheel in the Scrambler.. hope that helps. good luck with it.
Hello Del, Hope you don't mind me asking, I have an 865 Mag wheel Bonnie owned from new and I'm seriously thinking of changing to one of the new Water Cooled Bonnie's - Street Twin or T100. Can I just ask, do you have any thoughts on the new range of Bonnie's compared to the older 865 bikes? Thank you for taking the time to read my text and Ride Safe. Cheers Keith
Hi Keith, They are both great bikes, and like all things it depends on your enjoyment of riding... Penny loves here 865 Scrambler and wouldn't part with it.. so why not take a few test rides and see how you feel.. the dealers always have demo bikes for you to try out..?
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del, many thanks for your reply, only one way to find out - 2.30pm this coming Saturday 6th - booked a Test ride on the Street Twin. Really excited. Cheers Keith
Excellent video. Very helpful and picked up a few new tricks from the previous video. Thanks again to the both of you for making these informative videos. Ride safe.
Most welcome buddy, glad the video could help you.
Helo Del!
I was watching this video, and I would have a question.
I feel at the motorcycle that the first telescope is too hard. Larger way off the front and big bumps on the steering wheel.
I was advised to replace the 10W oil in it with a 5W number.
What do you think would be the solution?
Thank you in advance, Valantine.
Hi Valantine, fork oil is inexpensive, so you could make an experiment, just try the lighter oil and see how you like it... if it doesn't work, you can drain that out and go back to the original mate...
@@Moonfleet41 Hi Del!
Thanks for the reply.
If I only put 5w of oil into it will not be too soft? Did you see you shuffling it off, what do you think would be better?
Welcome to Valentine.
@@becobalint7899 Try just it out Beco and if you don't like it you can change back, there is only way to tell and that is try and and ride your bike and see how it feels!
@@Moonfleet41 Hello.
Thanks for the answers, all the best !!
Valentine
I thought that only I converted the brush into a tool... :)
Ha ha.. simple fix aye.. who needs special tools..! :-)
That almost eager sounding Yes on the question "shall we pop it back in the bike" made me laugh.
I bet miss Penny jumped on her bike immediately 😂.
Good video 👍👍👍 and nice to see the memories on the wall.
Hi Christopher, we've glad you saw them go up, pride of place mate, and honoured to have them.. thank you again for your kind gift, all safe ! Have a great week, all the very best, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 you to 👍.
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When installing the fork legs back in,do i have to take special care of the alignment so the axle can go through easily? Or do they move freely,the fork legs?
Brilliant video, thank you very much. Lots of tips but also a very good watch. Thank you
Most welcome Sir, glad you enjoyed it, thanks as ever for your kind support!
(P) Nice & fresh 👍🏻 Hope they behave better now for the Penster 😀
Hey Cotti, always good to hear from you, about time for a catch up aye mate??! Love to the family, D&Px
😖 hello scratch in the fork leg
This is why all my bikes are ratters, so I can't cringe at all the scratches and scuffs I put on em with my heavy handedness 😁
Not at all, thankfully it was a trick of the light Gary, if you look at the avatar picture, that's a freeze frame of that very fork leg laid on it's outside face, not a scratch in sight, but it's all too easy to do, I agree, which is why I like ratters also !
That's good then,
The one bike I didn't want to damage was my mates new 2018 intruder 800 that he wanted me to do some electrical work on, I had to take the rear end plastics off and sure enough I knocked the bloody thing off the bench onto a nice rough concrete floor and scratched the lip of the mudguard deep enough to take all the paint off down to plastic and more , good job we've been mates for so long or I would of been paying out for new paint even though I didn't want payment for the job lol .
Live and learn I suppose
I'm putting an Ohlins nix22 cartridge kit in a speed twin. The kit is for a thruxton 1200 non R. I guess they are different forks, thought they were the same. I need to put a spacer on top of one of the top out spring.My question is, is that safe to have the spacer on top of the top out spring?
You said "I need to put a spacer in"... is there already a spacer in your forks, (like in the Bonnevlle)?, and is that on top, (it should be), if so, then it's always a good idea to go with what the factory did.. if there is no spacer in there.. and yours is all spring.. are you fitting a spacer for more preload?.. if so you can buy some adjustable preload fork caps from TEC bike parts..!
Delboy I am going to paint my bandit fork legs. Is there a quality rattle can lacquer you can recommend?
Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work
Hi Ian, I know i maybe go on about it a lot with the fighter build, but you can't beat "Simoniz Tough Paint" they do a clear acrylic lacquer for £4.44 a can at "Car Parts 4 Less".. great company with great fast delivery... Hope that helps mate, ive not used it myself, but their other paints have always been a great success... good luck with it.. Del.
Hi Del,I would like to ask the 2015 Triumph BONNEVILLE T100 has replaced the Andreani kit, how much oil should be added, thank you for your guidance!
If you have in any way modified the contents of your fork legs.. then go with the oil level height rather then quantity as the level will change according to the hardware contents, and its important not to overfill the leg.. dont know the levle off the top of my head, its on your service manual though.. hope that helps.
Would this be the same process for a 2005 speedmaster.
Ps soz to hold inside to release bottom bolt I use threaded bar with approiate size nut welded onto bar it then holds inside tube. .dave..
"30 seconds of pumping up and down" hahahahaha sorry, great vid
Now now, its a family show Piers lol... Good to hear from you my friend, hope life is good.
You are a maestro in the garage!!😃
Delboy Hi, can you please make a vid on rebuilding the USD forks to install TVT Nitron or Ohlins cartridges?
Hey...Delboy..have a question for you..Can I sub a 110/80-19 for the 100/90-19 on my Scrambler with no problems?
Yes you can mate, it's the same overall carcass circumference across the radius, but simply more is sidewall and less is tread, so it's kinda not the clever way to go, if you're gonna make that swop, then it's better to go the other way from 100 to 110 as you end up with more tread area as opposed to what you're looking at, which will leave you with a lesser tread area, but hey we're only talking about a total of 10mm in tread width, and if you look at your current 110/80 and see how much of the sides of that tread are untouched, then you'll know whether you're using it all , or not... if you currently have 10mm either side untouched, then you're reasonably safe to drop down to 100, but if your front tyre is worn almost off the edges already, then I would steer clear and get a 110/80, as you clearly use it all , hope that helps mate, all the best, D&Px
I remember watching you old vid showing how to do fork service. This vid just as good fella. Ta.
How about using transparency paper (acetate) for sliding the seal over pitted forks, instead of the milk carton?
Perfect solution and probably better than the milk carton as it's thinner, it doesn't pay to stretch the seal too much, but I think maybe more of us have a milk carton in the bin than acetate int the drawer, but if you have some, then it's definitely a better solution !
Hi Del- very different start to this video! Loved these kind of primers... was quite surprised to see that the 7.5 vs 10 weight would be that noticeable. Good stuff. What was the spray agent you used to clean the tubes and bits? Greetings from Hong Kong today to both of you! 🏍👍🏍
that was brake cleaner....!!
bigtw09 cheers...
Gary A: Hi Gary, oh my word, you globetrotter! Am so jealous of your job lol...! Seriously like bigtw09 said, it's brake and carb cleaner, you could use practically anything that cleans oil off, WD40, GT85, or even just mineral spirits, but brake cleaner is particularly good cos it dries away by itself and leaves zero residue... take care, chat soon, all the very best, D&Px
Moonfleet41 great video for learners like me, Del. Actually wish I was home to help the wife with the storm prep. Fingers crossed we’re all spared. Thx for all you guys do.
Hi again Gary, OMG, i didn't know you were in the path, we both send out love, good luck and god speed that it passes right by you all... I can imagine how you must feel being so far away and unable to help... Keep us posted brother, love from us both.. Del & Pennyx
[p] Nice work DB. Well explained and good tips.
Cheers
Pete.
Hi Pete, good to hear from you mate, thank you for your kind support, as always !
No problem DB.
Did you scratch down the inside right fork leg when you forced the mudguard off.? @1.29
Touched it but no marks mate...
Great job del very helpful keep up the great work
Thanks Colin, we intend to Sir, really appreciate your kind support...
Salut l ami
Magnifique Super boulot.
Je ne confie jamais mes moto a un mécanicien.
Mais si c est toi ok sans problème.
A bientôt
Merci d'avoir regardé mon ami, passez une bonne semaine!
Nice one mate all the best from down under
Hi Jason, thanks mate, good to hear from ya, thanks for your support!
Hello! What is the size of the front wheel?
It was 17" x 3.5"
@Moonfleet41 Thank you very much! And what is the approximate price of this wheel?
Thanks guys 👍👍😎 xx
Carb cleaner spray I take it? Can't beat the stuff for removing old oil/sludge/fuel deposits, ........ Old Skool!!!!
You know my Thoughts BRAVO young man
Thanks Mike, appreciate your kind support !