Make Pyrophoric Iron and Iron Oxalate

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @kendrickkelly2336
    @kendrickkelly2336 9 лет назад +50

    1. I'm glad you have a glassware sponsor!
    2. As someone who is hearing impaired, I especially appreciate that you caption your videos!

  • @robertlittlejohn8666
    @robertlittlejohn8666 9 лет назад +8

    Hi, I made pyrophoric iron once by heating rouge (fine Fe2O3) in a stream of hydrogen. It's described in a post on sciencemadness. It was a complete surprise, I didn't expect the iron to ignite. I love your videos, and am so glad you are continuing. You have had a tremendous impact.

  • @NurdRage
    @NurdRage  9 лет назад +84

    I'm visiting family this week so there likely won't be a video. But i'll be back end of next week.
    I'm currently working out the steps to make Daraprim/Pyrimethamine from domestically available chemicals. I'm not sure if i'll actually make the chemical but it's a long-term project to think about.

    • @IntegralMan
      @IntegralMan 9 лет назад +6

      +NurdRage I hope you have a good time. I love your videos :)

    • @jacklovell3115
      @jacklovell3115 9 лет назад

      +NurdRage Could you use a bunsen or lab burner in place of a propane torch when converting the Ferrous Oxalate to the Pyrophoric Iron? Great Video!

    • @themegamariobros1
      @themegamariobros1 9 лет назад +1

      Have a good time with your family.

    • @RaExpIn
      @RaExpIn 9 лет назад +1

      +NurdRage You took my advice to make pyrophoric iron. Nice! :D

    • @theskwiffy1
      @theskwiffy1 9 лет назад

      if you do make daraprim, could you somehow switch the chlorine with another halogen and possibly make a new drug altogether?

  • @mwilson14
    @mwilson14 7 лет назад +2

    I've been fascinated with this video for a while now and I've been working on making this myself. I thought I had done something wrong earlier because I was just left with a brown solution after adding the iron chloride to the oxalic acid even after it had completed cooled. I decided to pour the solution into a new container and the iron oxalate crystals began forming spontaneously and raining to the bottom of the flask. It was awesome to watch and it's still forming crystals after two hours.
    I can't thank you enough for the inspiration you have provided me from your videos and hard work.

  • @zchen27
    @zchen27 9 лет назад

    Sometimes I just come to this channel to watch things catch on fire. And thanks to a good chemistry teacher in High School, I can actually understand all (well, most) of the steps. Too bad I am a complete klutz around dangerous chemicals and would probably burn my house down if I try any of the videos involving fire.

  • @garethdean6382
    @garethdean6382 9 лет назад

    You're a bright spark to come up with this method.

  • @36thgallardo
    @36thgallardo 9 лет назад +93

    These are the most interesting videos that I don't understand.

    • @Cj129qu
      @Cj129qu 9 лет назад +17

      then become a chemist

    • @JayMark2049
      @JayMark2049 9 лет назад +3

      +Akatosh x You don't need to be a chemist to understand these reactions. :)

    • @AAAEA010
      @AAAEA010 9 лет назад

      +Akatosh x fuck that

    • @Cj129qu
      @Cj129qu 9 лет назад +1

      JayMark2049 true, I'm the same way. however its the profession attributed to understanding this so thats why i suggested.
      and 001100AAAEA whats so bad about being a chemist?

    • @AAAEA010
      @AAAEA010 9 лет назад

      +Akatosh x I love math and physics but I hate chemistry for some reason...
      it's too hard for me I guess!!!
      (Notice that I said "me", it could be easy for you idk)

  • @SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
    @SlurponMuhdickKillTheState 9 лет назад +3

    Wow. I learned something. Never seen this experiment before. Well done.

  • @gl1500ctv
    @gl1500ctv 9 лет назад

    +NurdRage 1:20 Yeah, the only thing I remember from grade school chemistry was "do as you ought'r, add acid to water." Thanks for the memories!

  • @RaExpIn
    @RaExpIn 9 лет назад +2

    This is one of my favourites! I've made it somewhat often back then, because it looks so nice :)

  • @MC-Racing
    @MC-Racing 9 лет назад

    I have no means or desire to do any of these experiments, but i love chemistry and i love watching your videos :-)

  • @hentaihenry7099
    @hentaihenry7099 9 лет назад

    Although I'm not planning on majoring in chemistry, it's always been pretty nifty to me and your videos are always really intriguing. I've been a fan for years. :)

  • @sazxcdewq123
    @sazxcdewq123 9 лет назад

    Note: FeC2O4 may not precipitate at 2:55 due to low Ph. It will work better if you use ammonium or sodium oxalate in place of oxalic acid.

  • @sooth15
    @sooth15 9 лет назад

    Wow, that ferrous oxalate is a beautiful shade of yellow.

  • @catherineharris4746
    @catherineharris4746 3 года назад

    Omg simply amazing!

  • @garethdean6382
    @garethdean6382 9 лет назад

    Also, Iron(III) complexes with oxalate, to the extent that oxalate salts will act as rust removers and you can crystallize out (exceedingly soluble) double oxalates from solution.

  • @omsingharjit
    @omsingharjit 5 лет назад +1

    3:25 yes !!! From pcb chemical

  • @stevenncc1701
    @stevenncc1701 9 лет назад

    Great for hand warmers too.

  • @joewebster903
    @joewebster903 7 лет назад

    Better to take 5 gems ferrous oxalate and heat this in a large test tube then when fully heated cap the contents with a cork dipped in molten paraffin and allow to cool. These test tubes can be kept safe in cushioned containers for over a year and taken out of the box and you can remove the cork while pouring out the iron powder once it hits the wax the iron ignites !!

  • @peachtrees27
    @peachtrees27 9 лет назад

    wow that is wild! never knew iron could spontaneously combust...

  • @rebos9119
    @rebos9119 9 лет назад +19

    Where can I get the bongs that I see in this video?

  • @johndrew6568
    @johndrew6568 9 лет назад

    I'm not a scientist, chemist or any ist. BUT I ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR VIDS. 50 YEARS AGO WISH YOU HAD BEEN MY SCIENCE TEACHER, COZ I ALWAYS LIKED THE SUBJECT, BUT MY SCIENCE TEACHER WAS A BORING SOD AND ONLY WANTED US TO KILL STUFF OR CUT UP EYE BALLS! IF HE WEREN'T GETTING US TO LOOK THROUGH HIS REFACTOR TELESCOPE! NICE BLOKE THOUGH.

  • @benderrodriquez
    @benderrodriquez 9 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @MrBlueBurd0451
    @MrBlueBurd0451 9 лет назад +2

    Oh yes, I love pyrophoric substances.

  • @sp00k1es
    @sp00k1es 9 лет назад +1

    Is it possible to make one big chunk of the pyrophoric iron so that you would have a chuck of iron glowing red hot for a decent period of time? Like from the movie upside down...

  • @guardiangamer2695
    @guardiangamer2695 9 лет назад +4

    can we make aluminium powder for flash powder like this ?

  • @micoboobatawan9797
    @micoboobatawan9797 9 лет назад

    When it's done burning, it looks like an inside of a hand warmer when it's not warm anymore.

  • @maciejdelekta6167
    @maciejdelekta6167 8 лет назад

    U can use FeSO4 instead of FeCl2, work as well ;)

  • @u0000-u2x
    @u0000-u2x 9 лет назад +9

    Can you simulate Mark Watney's hydrazine into water experiment? :)

  • @nickbelov5433
    @nickbelov5433 9 лет назад

    Omg wow this is so cool it gave me more info in my brain

  • @nano3711
    @nano3711 9 лет назад

    Here's a little trick for you;
    I don't know what you use for editing, but try to find a noise cleaner.
    The noise isn't the sound, but the image. It's to clean most of those little spots when the room becomes darker.
    Or you can also invest in a 20'000$ camera, up to you.

  • @Tpsx-cv4jq
    @Tpsx-cv4jq 9 лет назад

    What does he say at 5:12? It sounds like the audio cuts out for a moment.

  • @MarioLuigiVSKoopa
    @MarioLuigiVSKoopa 9 лет назад

    NurdRage, The Iron was generating hydrogen BEFORE the heating and the stirring.

  • @Unrested123
    @Unrested123 9 лет назад

    I've been subbed for ages and usually have no idea what you're going on about yet for some reason I always enjoy these videos. Lol there is something wrong with me. :p Pretty experiments!

  • @hussainattai4638
    @hussainattai4638 9 лет назад

    Why do you use gravity filtration? Why not Buchner funnel (vacuum filtration)?

  • @KnightKiller1000
    @KnightKiller1000 9 лет назад +2

    I'm wondering if there is a way to extract iron from "Thinking Putty?" If so could you do a video about it.

    • @choicebandmetapod1439
      @choicebandmetapod1439 9 лет назад

      That would be super cool.

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 9 лет назад

      +KnightKiller1000 Depends if you want the putty afterwards. The putty can be thinned with organic solvents and heating and the iron left to settle out.

  • @brandonfranklin4533
    @brandonfranklin4533 3 года назад

    Chemistry is so cool. I totally missed out.

  • @trick7039
    @trick7039 9 лет назад +1

    Could you make a large batch of this and then make a video of you testing it in thermite?

  • @JoeyMakesEverything
    @JoeyMakesEverything 9 лет назад

    you should make candy rocket with different additives with pure substances and how to make them

  • @easterpink7523
    @easterpink7523 7 лет назад

    in the next video you should teach us how to wear proper safety protocols

  • @gammadelray1225
    @gammadelray1225 9 лет назад +1

    Would it be possible to somehow prepare this in a vial and use it as a means of starting a fire in a survival kit? Or is it too reactive to store for long periods of time.

    • @frankotto3134
      @frankotto3134 8 лет назад

      I think that it would be suitable to store in a vacuüm.

    • @Sup3rman1c
      @Sup3rman1c 7 лет назад

      Doesnt help, since it reacts with itself like said in the video.

  • @nickwoo2
    @nickwoo2 9 лет назад +6

    cool video. do you have any videos on making iodine or hydrogen peroxide?

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 9 лет назад

      +nickwoo2 You'd be better off buying peroxide than making it. Stuff is persnickety.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi 9 лет назад +2

      +Gareth Dean Doesn't mean we don't wanna see the process!

    • @nickwoo2
      @nickwoo2 9 лет назад +7

      +Gareth Dean Im interested in the science and if it can be made through different methods. im sure there are places with the info but nurdrage has the best home chemistry videos on RUclips.

    • @garethdean6382
      @garethdean6382 9 лет назад

      *****
      Good point. I myself think its production is rather dull, mostly electrolysis of clear solutions.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi 9 лет назад +2

      Gareth Dean
      A lot of inorganic chemistry is "dull" like that. At least it's not asking to work with azidoazide azides!

  • @timroberts9254
    @timroberts9254 9 лет назад

    +NurdRage can you please do a video about making potassium chlorate with electrolysis?

  • @Auroral_Anomaly
    @Auroral_Anomaly 10 месяцев назад

    Funny enough you can do this with almost any metal, oxygen is almost as reactive as fluorine, we just don’t see it, because it often forms tough passivation layers.

  • @alexa.davronov1537
    @alexa.davronov1537 2 года назад

    It's superparamagnetic I'm sure. Move a magnet close to it to see particles moving.

  • @neilmangal9236
    @neilmangal9236 9 лет назад

    +NurdRage can you make a video about how to synthesize your own oxalic acid like did with hydrochloric acid and also i don't have a blowtorch is there anything else I can use

  • @vincenzoaudittori1490
    @vincenzoaudittori1490 9 лет назад

    do you synthesize your own reagent grade chemicals or do you purchase them? and of so, what website do you recommend for glassware and or chemicals

  • @TheMeilinger
    @TheMeilinger 9 лет назад

    maybe something more about pyrophoricity? Do you have the equipment to perform some experiments on metalorganics like BuLi or grignard-compounds?

  • @johnanders8861
    @johnanders8861 6 лет назад

    Could you use finer iron like iron wool for a faster reaction, I am looking to make bulk quantities and got 10 lbs of iron wool on Ebay for $5, they priced the listing wrong .

  • @KaWouter_
    @KaWouter_ 9 лет назад

    Magic!

  • @SenorQuichotte
    @SenorQuichotte 9 лет назад

    how do you tell by looking at the elements charts which metals will spontaneously combust in air with fine enough particle size? i know iron does and so will aluminum.

  • @beherith2874
    @beherith2874 6 лет назад

    Where did u get the reflux condenser and how does it work?

  • @dominero
    @dominero 7 лет назад

    I know that using mag stirring seems like a great idea, but it has to scratch the hell out of your flask.

  • @potato9410
    @potato9410 9 лет назад

    WHO IS READY FOR THE SUPERMOON!!!!!!!!!1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Levikj
    @Levikj 8 лет назад

    What kind of iron is used in hand warmers

  • @Ruski4life1
    @Ruski4life1 9 лет назад

    It would be cool if you can show a video of silver plating. Not silver nitrate on copper like all the other silver plating videos on you tube.

  • @ColCoal
    @ColCoal 9 лет назад

    During the end when you dumped it, how hot was it burning at?

  • @timewave02012
    @timewave02012 9 лет назад +22

    I keep trying to read "Oxalate" as a hexadecimal number when I first see it.

  • @phookadude
    @phookadude 9 лет назад

    Would that produce the fine iron needed to make magnetic ferrofluid?

  • @thagrit
    @thagrit 9 лет назад

    is the end result useful for nickel iron batteries?

  • @lajoswinkler
    @lajoswinkler 9 лет назад

    It would be better to first make a solution of oxalic acid. When one of the products is solid, you don't really want the reactant to be solid because its crystals will get caked with the product. That way you get particles of oxalic acid encased in iron(II) oxalate. Slowly dripping concentrated oxalic acid solution into a suitable solution of iron(II), while mixing it, will produce a very fine and reasonably pure product.

  • @nebarnix
    @nebarnix 6 лет назад

    This process should also work with H2SO4, correct? Is my thinking correct that the acid could be poured off after iron oxalate recovery and used over and over again to make a pipeline of iron to iron oxalate? I suppose one would need to always ensure an excess of iron vs oxalic acid to prevent oxalate formation in the primary dissolution bath.

  • @computercat8694
    @computercat8694 7 лет назад +2

    2:50 And you use drain cleaner sulfuric acid XD

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 4 года назад

    I don't have Ferrous Chloride. Will Ferrous Bueller do?

  • @JustinHallPlus
    @JustinHallPlus 9 лет назад

    How would you feel about making some super-fluid helium?

  • @D3faulted1
    @D3faulted1 9 лет назад

    Since grinding dust is iron that's been burnt and thus some form of iron oxide, would it be possible to make thermite with it?

  • @supersmashsam
    @supersmashsam 9 лет назад

    Would the direct reaction between an oxalic acid solution and iron be possible? I guess the main problem would be the precipitation of iron(II) oxalate on the surface of the nail which would slow down the reaction.

  • @aajjeee
    @aajjeee 6 лет назад

    if you were to add the aluminium under an inter athmosphere woud you get a self igniting thermite?

  • @icebluscorpion
    @icebluscorpion 6 лет назад

    Hey NurdRage mix this pyroforic iron with Aluminium oxide will it spontaneously react wit the aluminium oxide or will it react only if it is exposed to air if the second case occurs than you have pyrophorik termite

  • @MephistoRolling
    @MephistoRolling 9 лет назад +3

    would it still ignite like that if it was cold?

    • @Lvl90Shadowknight
      @Lvl90Shadowknight 9 лет назад +4

      +engelteir Yes, it reacts to oxygen.

    • @peterpersolja5144
      @peterpersolja5144 9 лет назад

      +Lord Shagrax The activaton energy might be too low, if it was at room temperature :P

    • @MephistoRolling
      @MephistoRolling 9 лет назад

      i was thinking it might just rust or something like that, maybe quickly. but not actually combust.

    • @Lvl90Shadowknight
      @Lvl90Shadowknight 9 лет назад

      I'm no expert on physics or chemical reactions, but my guess it would ignite no matter the temperature. Oxygen is extremely volatile, and as liquid even more than in gas form.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree 8 лет назад +2

      +Lord Shagrax You don't understand what volatile means then.

  • @Tomyb15
    @Tomyb15 9 лет назад

    Is it possible to create large crystals of magnetite to demonstrate its magnetic strength?

  • @shadkaamahmed9931
    @shadkaamahmed9931 7 лет назад

    is there any way to store this pyrophoric iron for later use??

  • @EmergencyChannel
    @EmergencyChannel 9 лет назад

    So, can this melt steel beams?

  • @masoncheng8761
    @masoncheng8761 5 лет назад

    Can you use this to make thermite

  • @theginginator1488
    @theginginator1488 9 лет назад

    Can this process work with other iron salts?

  • @Lostpanda123
    @Lostpanda123 9 лет назад

    Cool!

  • @Teth47
    @Teth47 9 лет назад

    Is that an Extreme Q mini whip I see at 4:58? If not, that's uncanny...

  • @kanerhodes8714
    @kanerhodes8714 9 лет назад

    can you make ferrous sulfate into sulphuric acid?
    I heard it was doable by heating it up to decomposition temperatures (I'm unsure how high)
    and at which point it would produce sulphur dioxide and sulphur trioxide- which could be condensed and further processed into sulphuric acid.
    I was really hoping you could.confirm or debunk this.

    • @pietrotettamanti7239
      @pietrotettamanti7239 7 лет назад

      Kane Rhodes yes, you can. Old chemists did this to obtain sulphuric acid, back in 1800. They decomposed it in FeO and SO3, and then absorbed the SO3 in water. The downside of this process is that it deals with SO3. When it comes in contact with air it instantly soaks up any water present and creates a heavy sulphuric acid fog. This reaction is also pretty violent. This is quite dangerous, and i would not recommend doing that.

  • @ZarocLow1994
    @ZarocLow1994 9 лет назад

    What would happen if you mixed this with aluminum? Would it create spontaneous thermite?

  • @satyan1378
    @satyan1378 8 лет назад

    Can we use extemely fine powder of iron carbonatae

  • @george_thebean
    @george_thebean 9 лет назад

    How do you know that your iron oxide is more pure than the laboratory grade one?

  • @GravelLeft
    @GravelLeft 8 лет назад

    You said that the resulting iron oxide is pure. Does that mean that the magnetite that was present has also been converted to iron oxide?

  • @DarkMatterWonder
    @DarkMatterWonder 9 лет назад

    Awesome

  • @IceBergGeo
    @IceBergGeo 4 года назад

    So, if this would make good thermite, and he is using it on aluminum foil, could it happen that the reaction of the hot iron oxide and aluminum foil could start the thermite reaction and continue, if there was enough aluminum?

    • @jcims
      @jcims 2 года назад

      I was wondering something similar. If you mixed with an aluminum power if it would make self-ignorating thermite

  • @mihajlopetkovic2003
    @mihajlopetkovic2003 8 лет назад

    Is it possible to make pyrophoric iron by displacing it from solution of iron sulfate with other metal like aluminium?

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer 8 лет назад

      no, because the Aluminium poisons the iron surface, but you are right in thinking that it could do that...but not in this case.

    • @mihajlopetkovic2003
      @mihajlopetkovic2003 8 лет назад

      Zinc or Magnesium maybe?

  • @grock9211
    @grock9211 9 лет назад

    Nice video NR :)) So other day I was making an Iron oxalate and when I started heating the beaker (containing FeSO4 and oxalic acid). Then some Iron oxalate precipitate and created a few little bangs in the beaker (I thought that my beaker will explode). Why it happened to me? Is there any scientific explanation of this? BTW sorry for my bad English.

  • @MarioLuigiVSKoopa
    @MarioLuigiVSKoopa 9 лет назад

    Hello, NurdRage. Nice Pyrophoric Iron video. I wonder if you can make Iron (II) Oxalate using Iron Carbonates and Hydroxides And Oxalic Acid Dihydrate........

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 7 лет назад +1

    How do you know that your acid is 10M. I buy mine HCl (31%) as a special drain cleaner but it doesnt say rhe molarity.

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 7 лет назад

      Sup3rman1c Oh thanks. I guess I will just wait for high school. One more year and I will be 15 and go to a high school. That is why I want to know. Schools in Europe are at 15years and above (high schools). And I really love chemistry. But still thanks.

  • @grendelum
    @grendelum 4 года назад

    be great to have sealed ampules of that for camping...

  • @peregrine1970
    @peregrine1970 5 лет назад

    Kinda makes me wonder. If you keep it in say an argon atmo, then add in the aluminum powder and then expose to oxygen. Self-igniting thermite?

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz 5 лет назад

      No, you need the metal oxide to react with the aluminum

    • @peregrine1970
      @peregrine1970 5 лет назад

      @@RobertSzasz But as that reacts to form the iron oxide and provides a fairly high temp when it does the conversion, then it would have the heat and the Iron Oxide fe2 from that Pyrophoric Iron and would maybe continue with the thermite reaction once the correct aluminum/iron oxide ratio is reached? I am not a chemist so I may just not be getting it, but it just seems like it should flow along if the end result of the PI is fe2 and just would need aluminum and heat to go thermite.

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz 5 лет назад

      @@peregrine1970 oxygen doesn't penetrate solids or piles of powder well. The reason thermite works is that the iron oxide and aluminium are well mixed together and iron oxide feeds oxygen to the aluminum.

    • @peregrine1970
      @peregrine1970 5 лет назад

      @@RobertSzasz Ahh... makes sense.

  • @TengYuan
    @TengYuan 9 лет назад

    good flask. blow torch safe grade

  • @garycard1456
    @garycard1456 9 лет назад

    NurdRage,
    Referring to an article recently published in the Royal Soc. Chem's sister publication, 'Chemistry World', titled: "Environmentally Friendly Quantum Dots Make Their Mark", maybe you would like to synthesise indium phosphide nanoparticles?

  • @chesthairascot3743
    @chesthairascot3743 6 лет назад

    Idle curiosity: Is there a physics imposed limit on how fine iron oxide can become? (as in, a physical limit greater than one molecule)

  • @matsnyberg8127
    @matsnyberg8127 8 лет назад

    Fantastic, fun not enraging at all :)

  • @EricBliesener
    @EricBliesener 9 лет назад

    would this work with FeCl3?

  • @zubmit700
    @zubmit700 9 лет назад

    Damn that's fucking awesome! I really need youtube channels like yours.! Informative video ftw!.

  • @noahd8673
    @noahd8673 8 лет назад

    would this work with aluminum instead of iron

  • @Danderci
    @Danderci 9 лет назад

    Shouldn't you always wash down with distilled water?

    • @NurdRage
      @NurdRage  9 лет назад +9

      +Aaron orourke I don't think i said not to.

    • @Danderci
      @Danderci 9 лет назад +1

      NurdRage I'm not good when it comes to chemestry so I am unsure. I believe when I was in chemestry class in h.s I was told always use distilled water.... I just wanted to make sure that is what your suppose to use for people like me who are unsure. In your video you said wash it down with water.... Thank you for your feedback :)

  • @mr.dahliaking.202
    @mr.dahliaking.202 9 лет назад

    If cooper salts are blue, iron salts are yellow, then what metals have salts that are red? green? maybe even purple?

    • @gamingmarcus
      @gamingmarcus 8 лет назад

      Many chrome salts have a nice dark green, but also other colors.
      And I think the salts of Cobalt have many colors ranging from blue to red, also purple.
      Manganese is also quite colorful. Permanganates have a very intense purple color but the Manganese salts can also be green, brown and slightly pinkish.
      Transition metals in general produce any kind of imaginably colored salts.

  • @chemistryscience4320
    @chemistryscience4320 7 лет назад

    Mmm ... I wonder who turned off the light's ??