$350 Vs $22,000 - GOLF LAUNCH MONITORS!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- $350 Vs $22,000 - GOLF LAUNCH MONITORS!
VOICECADDIE SC200 Swing Caddie VS FORESIGHT GCQUAD launch monitor!
PGA Golf Pro Rick Shiels tests the SC200 Swing Caddie up against the market leader in golf the GCQuad! With no strings attached and no silly affiliate links!
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I purchased the SC200 with the intent of working on mid-short iron yardage to attack pins by knowing my number with each club. It was great in theory. The 1st time I tried it, I was hitting off a mat into a net. From 5 iron - PW it read 20-30 yards less than I normally hit. The 2nd time I went to the range, hitting to flags from 60-175 yards, it again was 20-30 yards off. The 3rd time I went to the 150 plate and hit into a green. The SC200 was reading 130-138 yards where my pitch marks were 150-160 yards. As for driver, it shows I hit my 6 iron further. That being said I have contacted Voice Caddie and so far they have been more than helpful to try to resolve and recalibrate my device.
How much??????? For $22,000 I would want it to play the shots for me, while I stayed in the Bar!
problems of the super rich amiright? i once saw a pen sell for 30k. a pen. like get the fuck out.
@@twig4661
But It was John Wick's Pen. And He once Killed 10 Men at a Football Match With it...10 Men.
The higher end ones are mostly for teaching pros and tour pros where they can actually get money back from using them. It's more of an investment item then personal use. Hopefully, technology will get better on the more afordable ones.
@@ndnd1671 I'm pretty sure the pros are GIVEN them....... just like rich people are given clothes, cars etc. I bet Rick didn't buy his
@@brucet000 Not teaching pros
I was tossing up between these two... guess I'll get the $22000 one.
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I was thinking the same ... the one downside is lugging the $22,000 monitor around on the golf course, where range distances and actual course distances may vary.
Hi Rick - stopped playing golf at 15 and came back to golf after 10-years hiatus recently, all down to your videos sparking my interest again! Great content and it has helped me a lot, so far back at it for 3-months and loved it. And to answer your question I recently did a gaping session on Foresight GC2, totally worth it.
That's so good to hear Adam, sounds like you are smashing it!! CLASS!!!!
Rick, please try using the SC200 with the bay door open for shots over 170. I suspect that the SC200's single radar needs more data points (flight time) for those faster shots.
I would also agree, hitting indoor isnt probably the best for swing caddies tech.
I've seen indoor reviews that even nails the driver.
Hey Sean......that's exactly it.... he will get way more accurate results because it's a radar base unit.....it will be way way more accurate with ball flight being tracked.
Your right! He didn't open it all the way!!!!
Just watched "How to build swing speed with Mike Malaska" on RUclips.He used the same monitor outdoors with no apparent problems.
Great video Rick, I've had an SC200 for about 6 months and it's great to see this comparison.
The "Approach" mode where it gives random distances and scores you on how close you get is really good and makes it competitive... overall, I think it's very good value (works best on a range rather than indoors)
Maybe the GCquad isn’t correct and the SC200 is? Maybe you’ve just been hitting 260 with a driver all along rick.
But why would the flop go 90 yds lol?
Hahahaha
slamit boi because science 😉
slamit boi, remember Shields said you have to put in each club’s loft. When you open the face and ‘add loft’, the device can’t see that. I believe it’s using the given loft and ball exit speed to estimate distance. Just a thought.
Camden Campbell he hit it pure
I actually bought this monitor about a year ago. I love it! as Rick implied, it does have some imperfections, but there is a setting on it for pitch shots between 50-100 yards that is fun on the range and gives good feedback. it does get confused on some shots at longer ranges, but based on the feel of the ball off of the clubface, you can tell its wrong. what Rick didn't tell you, is that it tracks data and will give you average carry, low carry, long carry, and also total distance, low distance, high distance seen by each club in your bag. It's $350, take it for what its worth, and that's the feedback. not a bad unit all in all! Great video Rick! keep up the good work!
Hey Rick, sorry but you need to redo this video on open range.
You'll get different results on the SC-200. Please redo.
I own the sc220 and have tested the it against a Trackman and had excellent results with the driver which was within 2 mph swing speed. This test was done on a range rather than inside. My issue with the unit is with wedges. I fine that the readings are about 10 yards longer than known distances when hitting full or less than full shots. You cannot hit open face shots since you are changing the launch angle. Expensive launch monitors measure true launch angle where the SC220 relies on the user entered club loft for launch angle. Overall for $300 (what I paid) it is an excellent produce. I use it to experiment with different swings trying to increase speed as well as working on maintaining a consistent swing speed with irons.
170 yards!!!! Well that’s my driver covered 🤣
170 yards?! Are you a woman, lefthanded, and sitting in a wheelchair? =D
Reavx lmao
It’s a joke...
Quinten Vanneste that’s really good, if you can hit them straight that’s pretty much professional distance
Quinten Vanneste I hit mine around 320 yards but feels like I haven’t hit a fairway in a couple years
Can’t wait to watch! I was thinking about getting a launch monitor.
Hope you enjoy mate 👍
When's the Brodie and Rick collaboration?
I had it , Doesnt work dude, Very innaccurate , and i tried it in many diff envirements , Not worth 350 ...
I've got the model that doesn't talk and it gives me almost perfect numbers when i take it in on a lesson that uses trackman. The only numbers it struggles with it under 100 yards. No good for wedge gapping but perfect for everything else, and for the price.
I have had both models since the inception, it works fine! It needs to be fully opened on its stand. Rick didn't do this and that is why it's inaccurate
I have a Swing Caddie SC200 along with a SwingByte II and I can get almost all of the information you can from a GC Quad (except for ball spin and ball flight). Call it a poor man's launch monitor system. Works pretty well for practice in the backyard. Until Rick sends me my complimentary GC Quad, it will have to do for now.
Coming back to leave a review for you (and really anyone else who is here) about the Swing Caddie. Got one over the spring and used it in my garage during the pandemic when courses were closed (and the weather was awful) here in Chicago. Well I've finally taken it to the course and can't believe my eyes.....this thing has been spot on three out of four times! I mean, seriously. We scoped a par 3 at 143 yesterday, the Swing Caddie voiced "147" and I said there was no way because I really thought I hit my 8-iron short. Low and behold: the ball was four paces past the hole. I lipped out the birdie putt but not the point, at least here. For the $250 I think I paid, the Swing Caddie is awesome. Use at a driving range it can really help people dial in distances. And no, I don't work for the company:)
I'm not gonna lie... I couldn't afford a $350 launch monitor.
Scuba Steve should scoop you one at an auction. That's your Holy Grail!
Auction a round at Beverley Hills I reckon you'd be able to buy a trackman after the auction. Scuba Steve looked like Santa Claus in your last vlog
The next time Quintin comes Beverleys Hills you and Ace roll him in the parking lot.
@@dudefood825 They could have sold him an Atari and he wouldn't have known the difference.
@@charlesmelaisis4872 FACTS!
Awesome video Rick. I actually purchased this unit based on the advice from Clay Ballard who also recommended it and put it up against his Trackman. However, he didn't go into the detail regarding the longer yardage shots and I also wondered why I couldn't seem to increase my swing speed, or when I did, the SC wouldn't change the distance, it pretty much hovered around 250 yards. Yesterday it actually tracked one of my driver hits at 333 yards with the same swing speed. Having said that though, it has helped me tremendously with my irons as that is where I believe the most important shots are in our bag. Everyone wants to crush 300 yard drives, but those make no difference if you can't choose the proper club for the right distance to the pin and I've found that the SC does that for me. I would recommend that folks use this device each time they go to the range as it does seem to do a pretty good job when the weather changes, so for instance when it's cold, the ball doesn't travel as far and I could see my distances were shorter on colder days with the SC. Also, if it's really hot or sunny, I found I have to place my bag near the unit for shade as it will shut down if it gets too hot. But that is no different that any piece of electronic just like a cell phone. All in all, I love my SC and it has helped me immensely not only knowing my distances, but giving me the confidence when I'm hitting the shot. That is priceless when playing a par three or shot over water where you need to carry the ball an exact distance to avoid the hazard, yet land on the green. Thanks again for your review!
Never played golf. I don't know why I'm watching all these golf videos
Because you soon will be playing...don't delay.
K2mbs Indeed!!!! Took it up 3 months ago, most addictive game ever. I should have started 20years ago..... I can recommend it to everybody
Because you need to play
Bro, the universe is telling you something lol I’m not kidding tho...golf is wanna those sports that you can really fall in love with at any age
Because its YT, I start off looking for how to fix a leaking tap and end up watching Ozzy man reviews...
I have that launch monitor and use it a lot on the range. Must say I’ve never had issues 170+, my driver swing speed is about 110-115 and it seems to give me fairly accurate readings. Think as other people have it may be that you’re indoors.
Nice video! Maybe a review of the SkyTrak system at 1200 would be interesting due to the price point.
SkyTrak is a pretty good photometric devise, but you are likely looking at $1,600 for the devise only. There are many levels of cost and really depends on what you want. If you go top level, you need to add mat, screens, nets, software for courses, number of courses you want, etc- all that can costs about $6,000. There are plenty of reviews out there to Google.
Just what I was going to post Josh, interested in a review of that system as a home simulator set up.
SkyTrak is ok it doesn't read a lot of shots and the ball doesn't launch at the time you hit. It has a few second delay so it just feels a little unnatural but can get over it. Data is pretty good but not perfect.
I logged in to add the same request. Rick, please compare to SkyTrak, which also seems to perform better at shorter distances than long - in my experience... but would love to see it vs. the GCQUAD!! Thanks Rick, love your stuff!!!
Yeah I had a skytrak but sold it. It doesn’t work well with driver, but worked great with irons. And I agree, it sometimes didn’t pick up shots. The biggest drawback for me is you need a dedicated gaming laptop/computer to get the good software. The software with the iPad was not good at all. You can’t even play multiplayer with the simulation software on iPad. It overall wasn’t really worth the price for me. Paid about 3,000 for net, mat, and device. Save your money and get lots of lessons from pros.
Bought an SC200 6 weeks ago. Use it to compare shots (and swings) for distance. Accuracy is easy to judge at the range but I appreciate the distance readings I get from my SC200
I think I'm going to buy one (or similar), the local course has a GC2 for more advanced analysis, but I go to the range 1-2 times a week and I really like the idea of something like this to spice things up a bit, even if it has limited use.
I can also try different swing paths etc and get some idea of how that impacts the shot as my game is far from settled due to being new.
My only concern is this unit has been out for 3 years! and there must be something better out there for a sub £500 price point.
If not now, very soon, in which case, these units will likely crash in value.
There is a MEVO from flightscope too, which costs a bit more, but its newer, my only concern with that unit is I believe you have to put metal dots on the ball similar to GC2+HMT so I don't fancy that.
For those looking at a cheaper alternatives of similar ilk, try researching the ES12, or the SC100. They are cheaper and might provide similar grade results and definitely lower prices. Especially if you can get a 2nd hand unit. There is an ES14 unit too which was 700+ a few years ago (now around the 400 mark), so you would think that would still be an upgrade over this for not a load more money.
I'm so glad someone finally did a video on these. I'd been looking at them for a while and whenever I thought to pick one up, negative reviews from people always made me hesitate. Always hard to tell if your average joe reviewer on Amazon is complaining about legitimate gripes or simply doesn't know how to use the product.
Glad to see a professional finally put something out there and actually show the thing in action.
Cheers.
Think the SC200 is meant to be more accurate if you hit it into the range.
MosGef77 I own one, it’s much more accurate on the range or on the course
@@pgastar05 Yep, I recently got one too, seems very good, distances are exactly what I expected them to be (hitting into a range).
MosGef77 it only measures clubhead speed and ballspeed and guesses on the distance with a preset loft. You would be better off doing your own calculations using just those two readings and your closest guess...
Would love to see an update to this with the SC300. Sorry, but the GCQUAD is made of pure unobtanium and the SC300 looks to have some better features than its older counterpart. Sometimes knowing what training gear to spend money on is just as helpful as club reviews... at least to me. Thanks for all the great content!!
The sc300 just came out. Would love to see you do a review of the new one. Bunch of new features and seems to be more accurate. Love the videos Rick!!
thank you Rick .. i was thinking of getting this but your review really helped , it def not something worth just to have fun with with friend esp with the issue on swing speed issues
I've been wishing you would do this review! Thanks mate!
Salt Lake City, Utah
Thanks for watching!
I bought one today and went straight to the range. However before the purchase I had a session with the pro at golf galaxy and established distances, club speed and ball speed. Then went to the range and found the numbers to be very similar. The main benefit I found was establishing a consistent swing speed which made the rest of the swing elements more consistent. Next test will be on the course where I’ll test distances against gps.
Rick, Any chance of testing the new SC300 by Swing Caddy against the GC Quad ?
I’ve had mine for over a year now and I use it all the time, I haven’t seen the driver being off that much, i use mine on course and it amazes my group how accurate it is. Practicing with it for a year, I have brought my handicap from 12 to 7! Games on it are fun to play also!
I think it is important to understand that the SC200 is only measuring club head speed and ball speed. It doesn't "know" anything about the path that the ball has taken after leaving the clubface. It seems to just calculate a carry distance based on the loft of the club (which the user inputs) i.e. "A ball hit properly off the face of a club with a 28 degree loft at 110 mph will travel "X" yards" But it doesn't know if you hit it thin or fat. Or as Rick pointed out, if you de-lofted or added loft to your club. It only knows ball speed.
This works well for golfers who pretty consistently hit the ball with a solid, center of the clubface, strike. For high handicappers with inconsistent ball strikes it is pretty useless. I am a 32 handicap, bought one thinking it could help me dial in the distances on my irons, it was not up to that job. But I gave it to a 7 handicap friend of mine in Thailand. She absolutely loves it because it accurately measures and projects the distance of a "well-struck" golf ball.
Exactly what I thought it's limits would be. I'm after a skytrak as for sub £2k it gives me what I need and that's the ball flight ad I can work out all the club head issues from that.
Great video though Rick 👌🏻 very informative.
The tech in a GC Quad or Trackman must be amazing but $22k !
Surprises me that no one has come in with the same functionality and accuracy but at a fraction of the price.
Where are the Chinese when you need them?
I have the SC200 and I find it quite accurate for me from 30 yds to 250 +, my swing speed and smash factor currently doesn't translate much beyond that. I'm working on that. But it has definitely helped me realize I was very weakly gapped between 9 thru 7 iron, my 8 iron was very inconsistent. I kept thinking that I could always hit my 8 iron 150yds out on the course, but the SC200 showed me on average that I was mostly under clubbing myself. The smash factor is huge in helping you realize you're not hitting the ball as efficiently as you should. I highly recommend this device out on a well measured driving range. I found it to be very accurate as long as you were making a good pass at the ball. You can tell when you flush it and the Swing Caddie will confirm it by showing you a good smash factor. Now armed with some meaningful averages for my clubs, I make much better club selections for the distances needed.
PS: You may have to play with where you set the device behind you on your swing path a little to get the best results. Also the quality of the range balls you're hitting can negatively impact accuracy, but on average I think it does a good job. Would that we all could hit a 500 bucket of brand new PRO VIs whenever we go to the range.
Need to compare skytak to gc quad
I have owned this for a year. I like it. You didn't talk about the modes. One thing I have used it for is to lock in a distance and hit high, low and regular shots to that number. There is a game (points) mode for that. Also random distance mode (points game) is nice change of pace on the range. And I get what you are saying about the driver. But forget all that. For the driver, I only pay attention to the club head speed. For me, at least, driver can kill a hole. Driving is about being consistent and controlled, not long. I will gladly give up distance for fairways hit. I can swing a driver 115 but loose control consistency. My best consistency seems to be between 107 & 110. So when I practice and when I warm up the driver, I try to find that range of club head speed and the rest takes care of itself. Cheers Rick, great video.
Is there a test of the Garmin G80 vs The Quad comming?
Have had one of these SC200 for a while now and totally agree on what Rick says here. It also doesn’t cope well with sunlight facing the monitor and won’t collect any data.
can you do one of these vs the G80? Is it worth buying the G80 because it also has GPS?
I Bought the swing caddie for myself at the beginning of this summer. I absolutely love it. I use it at my driving range cause the range doesn’t have the best distance markers and everything I’ve seen has been basically dead on. The only times it’s super far off is if you duff a shot, hit a flop shot, catch it extremely thin, or hit a stinger. I hit my driver about 260 and it works like a charm for all my longer clubs. I think it just needs more time to get a read on the ball because of how fast the ball travels off the long clubs
Another great video Rick ! So you changed the G400 for the TS3 ????
What's in the bag coming VERY soon!
I have one and love it. The only issue I have with it is
1. Bad shots don't get picked up well
2. Battery life.
I bought rechargeable batteries for it so that's sorted. You should have possibly mentioned the features it has on it Rick like the approach feature. All in all for the price and my garage conversion I'm happy I get numbers not to far off, cheers the comparison video bud
Great video Rick! A What's In The Bag video before the end of the year?
Stay tuned around Christmas time! NEW WITB
Thanks Rick! I used the Swing Caddy for over a year and really like it! As for your remote do not need to closed of the unit but in front where the ball is! Like the practice game include in it!! Yes some difference but compare with the price and the improvement for me on the driving range that this unit brings is huge. Because between us on the outdoor driving ranges it is hard to really see the distance where our balls land.. Thanks again really appreciated!
Good stuff Rick. Interesting to see the difference. I’d love to see how trackman compares to gc quad. I know a lot of local teaching pros use trackman and would like to know how much of a difference there is for gapping purposes. Also is gc quad considered the standard or benchmark?
GC Quad shows strike location, so as a coach it's really beneficial to see where a student has been striking the ball on the face! Thanks for watching Steve!
Rick Shiels Golf yes Rick but I meant the things that can be compared between gc quad and trackman like carry distance, club speed, ball speed, smash factor. How accurate is gc quad and how accurate is trackman compared to gc quad?
This is so easy to research. This will answer your questions: ruclips.net/video/hGdiY6HoBzE/видео.html In short, a radar based system is best used outside where the radar can track the ball longer. GC Quad is photometric (which uses cameras to obtain data as the ball is struck) and therefore distance to net makes no difference. I recommend you subscribe to TGG Tour Experience whose golf videos are a Gold Standard of RUclips golf sites.
I bought the SC200. Love it. But the readings are all about the 'loft' of the club. So I get why it wouldn't read flop shots, etc.. I particularly love target mode. Great fun, in the sweet spot of the unit, and helps me brush up on distance control for those in-between shots.
Have you ever been on a launch monitor? If so which one, and what did you learn?
Hi Rick! I've hit at a facility with GC2. I learned my swing is embarassingly erratic, and I should stop worrying about distance and start worrying about the giant circle that comprised my dispersion.
We use a Trackman at Saunton Golf Club. Amazing bit of equipment.
I have sky track at home. My husband sets it up for outside. When I retire were are getting a golf simulator for inside
So I just bought this and tried it for the first time yesterday and put it vs trackman. I found it pretty accurate with a 7 iron. Speed and carry were very close. With driver it was never close. I don't swing as fast as you - 103-106, but it would consistently be 4+mph slow and 20-40 yards short. Not sure I am going to keep it. I'll try a little longer.
Interesting to hear!
I have the older SC100 Voice Caddy and I love it. The remote works from at least four feet away so I wonder if you were just too close to it. You can use it hitting in a cage or into a net and you can also take it to the driving range. It gives you carry distance only and does not track side-spin on the ball but it gives enough feedback to be worth it for me, mainly distance, swing speed, and ball speed.
I'd be too nervous to swing at the ball next to the 20000usd Gcquad
Rick I just watched this. I got my SC200 off a plus handicap player who was not using it and only paid £100. Loved the video and I work on swing improvement so great to have it confirmed it’s good for 60 to 170 range because that’s what I practice in.
Test the Mevo next Rick. Thanks
The Flightscope Mevo costs $450 (currently offered $50 off), and adds additional data to what the SC200 offers. However, the set-up for Mevo is considerably more complicated and necessary for accuracy. I got the SC200 because I just want to set the unit down and practice without putting on stickers, re-aligning for every club and insuring I hit the ball from the exact distance called for. Here is a Mevo review: practical-golf.com/flightscope-mevo-review/
Agreed, pease test the Mevo!
I also agree. Posted the same thing above before I saw this post.
Yes Rick , please test the Mevo , I have watched most of your videos from start. on your recommendation I purchased Ping G irons . great clubs . now have P790 taylormade . Thank you.
@@JDSFLA You don't need stickers for every ball. The stickers are for accurately tracking spin rate. It will give accurate distances without it.
Thank you for this video Rick. I searched it on Amazon today, and amazingly they had it on sale for only $200. I bought it for some feedback and fun at the range, and I may look to set up a hitting net in my backyard. I think this is really going to help me gain better distance control with my wedges. Thanks a lot!!
I feel like there is no point in buying a launch monitor that’s inaccurate. Especially £350. Just spend it on lessons or clubs
That's a good point Brendan!
on shots from 50 to 170 yards it is accurate..seems like
Mo's Taverne but why pay £350 for something you can only use between 50-170 yards when it’s still 4 or 5 yards inaccurate
It’s more accurate when the radar is allowed to trace the ball down the range. It’s like comparing a fork to a spoon
@@brendanharkin9582 50 - 170 are the most important ranges in golf.
I've been using this device for several months and apart from some obvious mis-reads it has been very accurate and helpful!
can you connect it to a tv which shows shots on a screen?
Why’s it in dollars you live in the uk
The vast majority of my audience is in the US Mark, so easier to use $. Thanks for watching!
@@RickShielsPGA turncoat
The Americans are unaware of other currencies
I was thinking the same 🤔
Nobodies perfect.
I purchased one very recently as an early Christmas present for myself. I'm VERY happy with the unit but I have 3 small quibbles you didn't cover in your video. First the unit is limited to a 60 degree maximum. I carry a 64 degree wedge. Second the unit doesn't come with some kind of protective case or even a padded drawstring bag. I don't want to scuff it up when I stuff it in my bag to go down to the range for a practise session. In fact, I leave it in my bag all the time so I improvised a cover for it. Third, I find the screen a bit dim. A brightness control feature would be nice. I passed my comments on to the Swing Caddie people and they replied almost instantly. That was nice. They told me there is a new model coming out next year that would address my issues.
I never thought of testing it with flop shots. For me those are short enough so that I use my laser rangefinder to measure my distances. So I'm not seeing that as an issue at all.
All in all, for the price I give it 4.5 stars out of 5
Rather go to the range
That's not always an option.
I’ve been waiting for this video forever! Really excited to see the results
You get what you pay for.
It is more complicated than that. You get what fits your needs and pocketbook. The SC 200 will be a good choice depending on what your individual requirements are, otherwise you get something else.
Thanks for liking my comment Mr. Shiels!
I just bought the swing caddy a few weeks ago. Here is what I see
1. Agree that it is accurate for 7 iron down.
2. At the 6 iron, it started reading long, not short.....my 6 carries ~160, but it was showing 175+
3. Showed my driver carrying 240, but 215-ish in reality.
4. It gets confused on thin iron hits. A bladed 7 iron that goes 120 in the air, it will show at 150. It is accurate on fat hits.
All and all, a good device...happy with the purchase.
We need more videos like this, for the people who cannot afford $20,000 golf gear. Thank you Rick.
Great info. Ever got one of ur minions to go stand down the range and zap ur rangefinder to compare actual carry distance Vs GCQuad ? Always wondered how precise they really are....
From the camera view your flop loft looked to be more like 80°. I wonder if you entered that loft would the yardages be closer... Great video!!
Have been wait for this comparison review for a long time, good job 👍
Rick this is a HUGE video that I've been wondering and thinking of for years!
The cost isn't even a fraction - it's more like a crumb.
I have a friend who has a swing simulator, I also have family who has a trackman and a way to all the information needed... and I'm also a student of GolfTec here in the United States.
The past couple of years seeing Pro golfers using a TrackMan before their round or a big tournament isn't something that's uncommon to see. Dustin Johnson runs it with his wedges everyday, it's truly amazing to see.
May not with the an every day weekend grinder, but an amateur who wants to make it in golf... may just not have the money for a trackman or gcq... But very interesting to see the numbers and how you compared this.
I agree with comments below, I would use other options that are out there.
Thanks again and great video!
I purchased a swing caddie (well my wife did as a birthday present) ☺️ my swing speeds are not as quick as yours and found it to be pretty accurate. There was a discrepancy of about 2-3yds with my Bushnell range finder, a mate stood down the bottom of our practice area and read the distance back from the pitch mark (wet ground) so for me it works well big thumbs up 👍
I have this device and it worked great as Rick said. The best feature is an “approach” setting where it gives you 10 shots all random distances between 40 and 99 yards. It then scores each shot out of 10 and will even give you an 11 if you hit the exact number. This game completely changed my wedge/approach game inside 100 yards.
Thanks, Rick, great review. I have the SC100 which tends to give more accurate results outdoors. It might be worth doing a comparison outside too.
Good review Rick! I'm glad to see you taking it for what it's worth and not just bashing it for not being the most accurate. Keep up the good work!
I had the SC100 and it was about the same, about 160 and in, it was spot on. Anything over that, the distance, as you said, seemed to be around 40 yards short.
Great review Rick - and great timing for us in the NE USA stuck inside and itching to buy gear just cause it's the off season ha! Thanks for posting this.
I purchased the Garmin G80 approach after watching your video review for it. Yeah not a gc quad but good enough to help make me more consistent. Thanks Rick for all your advice.
I purchased the SC200 about 1 year ago. The first time I used it was hitting off a mat and into a net. With 4-pw it read about 25 yards less than my typical carry distance. The 2nd time I used it I took it to the range and hit to flags from 60-180 yards. Again the SC200 read about 25 yards less. The 3rd time I tried it I took it to my home course and set it next to the 150 yard plate and hit into a green. My pitch marks were generally on the green and the SC200 was reading in the 130's. I contacted Voice Caddie and they had me do a system reset which did not make it better so they had me send the device to them. They claim they tested the device and found no flaws with it but they did send me a new one. Upon receiving the new one I set it up per the instructions and took a few practice swings which it said carried about 80 yards on average, the old one didn"t read practice swings so I thought "woohoo this is good". I went out and was hitting at a target known to be 150yds only to get an average reading of 118yds.
With that being said, Voice Caddie customer service was great. Quick to respond and replace the device. I am happy that it works accurately for some but obviously it does not for me.
I have the SC200... it's really enjoyable to use! Things Rick hasn't gone into is the "target" or "approach" modes. Target= you set a distance (ex. 135 yrds) then have 10 shots to hit that distance and get points based on how close you get [it's a game]. And "approach" mode is 40-100 yards. It gives you a distance, you have one shot at it... and gives you points based on distance away from the objective. So it really aids in your shorter wedges and "feels" for the approach shots. What this product doesn't do "well" with is either off centered hits ( shanky toe or heel strikes = lower ball speeds and different launch angles) and bad face angle hits (pretty open/closed faces). AKA it ALWAYS assumes a perfect strike... so it displays (predicts) well struck, relatively straight ball flights. SOOOO... if you shank it repeatedly, it won't be accurate. If you hit it pretty well and would like an idea of your ball striking (smash factor) it does well. Gaping clubs should be done with a high end device... but it's good enough for an mid-average handicap like me. It makes practicing enjoyable!
I recently bought one but the snow/weather hit before I had a chance to try it out. Glad to hear that it's good (up to a point).
At my local course the pro uses a GCQuad. The information from that kit is more extensive and [with manually applied tiny stickers on the club] will tell you whether you are hitting the ball with an open or closed face, whether your club path is in to out/out to in, what the dynamic as opposed to the fixed static loft of the particular club is and which part of the club face hits the ball i.e., how far from the sweet spot you are. Essentially the SC200, it seems, tells you how far you are hitting the ball but not whether you could be wasting effort by not making your swing more efficient. After all, if you are adding dynamic loft to your club face, then that effort in getting your ball into the air an extra 30/40 feet is at the expense of distance along the fairway and no one in golf gets points for style!
Easy to understand analysis and helps decision process. Nice video.
Good review!! I got the Zepp 2 - data probably isn’t mega accurate but it’s really helpful at the range & makes practice more fun!
Looks great for wedge practice down the range. Love the GC Quad. I wonder how the other launch monitors like the flightscope mevo stack up. Would be great to see a reasonably priced one that offers club data such as swing path, face angle etc.
Excellent video, Rick! Thank you for the great break down and comparison!
I just get my driver numbers looking at 18 birdies GPS. Total distance of the hole minus the approach distance left = tee shot distance
I purchased the SC300 a month ago and it's much better than the SC200 I've had for 3 years. SC300 is more expensive but it's worth it
Excellent review! I’ve always wondered about these cheaper portable units. I’ve used Trackman, GC2, and Skytrak. Looking forward to the first GCQuad session when my local shop gets theirs up and running next month.
great work as always i wondered about this and you tested it for me. thx!
I have one and have never had a problem with driver or high swing speeds. A friend of mine swings 123mph and it picks his up.
Swing caddy runs off an algorithm. Thats why it needs the loft. Its great for locking in distances for full swing, 3/4, and 1/2 swing shots. Mishits sometimes arent picked up either. You get what you pay for. I have found it has helped me . I think its worth it. Especially if you and a buddy split cost.
I have one and I'm often using it in target mode. Really good and stays in the range it provides good data
This is one of the most informative videos you've ever done. Super interesting. You might try testing the Zepp golf swing analyzer. It tells you path, swing speed, and rotation. I have one. I'd be curious to know how accurate it is up against GC quad.
I have that same unit and I had the same issues. I remember one time it had he hitting a 5w 288 with 135mphss. Lol.
I will say though that I have found that it's accurate farther out then 170. Im confident in it with all my irons which is about 200 yards. Once I use a fw or driver and my SS really gets faster that's when I take the results with a grain of salt.
I'm so old school. I actually watch the ball, the distance, the flight and know what I'm doing or not doing. Having all this information is over kill. After all, the GOAT never used it... in fact he never even had his coach on the practice tee with him, didn't have a mental coach and didn't have a strength coach. And yet with all this innovation, no one is better. And... the average golfer is no different.
I tried a few low end launch monitors like this one, including The Flight Scope Mevo which was very accurate, but the ball data wasn’t very valuable to me without club data. Having ball data is like knowing the effect but not knowing the cause. Ball data is a nice to have but club data is a must have for game improvement. I ended up buying the GC2 with HMT and it’s been a game changer for my golf game. I’ve dropped 5 strikes in 3 months.
I bought this about a year ago and for me it seems to be very accurate. There are exceptions, like when you hit a chunky shot, it will give you the distance as if you had hit the shot clean. I think the technology in this machine basically gauges your swing speed and then gives you a calculation based on the loft of your club. As far as being very closer to the monitor to use the remote, I think the opposite is true, I stand 4 feet from mine and the remote works perfectly, if you are too close you probably need to hit aim the beam exactly at the receiver, stand back and the beam spreads out and the machine will read it. I use this about once a week and the batteries last for just under a year. One feature I really like is that you can set the monitor to give you a random yardage and then you try and get as close to that yardage as possible.
Great video. A bit surprised that your test shows thatSC200 is inaccurate with longer clubs. I did the same test with a professional set up (GC QUAD) and the data is pretty accurate for all clubs. I believe that that the light condition is very critical for SC200. When the range with bright sunlight shining directly into the SC200, it became very inaccurate. So perhaps you should check your lighting condition. I noted that the video is very bright. I presume you have strong bright light shinning onto you when testing and filming. If so this will likely affect the SC200. I guess the SC200 radar is not that strong and thus cant rack balls without sufficient light contrast..Cheers
H Rick" I bought two of them and gave one away to a Golfer who teaches lessons...as a gift...I use the other one indoors along with my Earnest Sports ES 15 to compare results...The vice caddie SC 200 works OK but the ES 15 along with a I Pad can give you more results and data to play with and the ES 15 is around $ 2000...Lot cheaper then the GC Quad ..Nice review...
Good stuff, Rick! This device is so portable that I could see taking it on the course for occasional use; e.g., showing my mates that they need to get a driver fitting since they don't get the distance they should with their swing speeds. btw, the SC200 would make a great giveaway... :)
I use the SC200 and I love it.
Another great VLOG Rick! Almost bought this unit quite a few times, specifically for yardage work on short to mid irons at the practice area. With a one year old, I don't play as much often as I'd like and a unit to 5 yard accuracy doesn't put me off at all. Maybe drop Santa a note 🎅
Hi Rick! Thanks for all the great videos, i try not to miss them. Can you do a review on the new swing caddie 300 vs your GC Quad. Thanks
Great video..Saving up to get SC200..That would great for my 7 irons on down, especial when weather changes to get update yardage for that day or anyday... What I would like to see at driving ranges..Is markers starting at 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 yards, so a golfer can practice his short game more accurately.....Thsnks again.....Leland
Well done inspector Shiels! You unraveled the mystery of the unknown again. I'm finding your little segments extremely beneficial for the consumer side of me. I know without much hesitation GCQ for 22k is out of my budget but the 350 dollar one is and your demonstration of it and it's small deficiencies helped my impulses to buy or not. Thanks again Rich!
Thanks so much for watching Mark!
A lot of driving ranges have free trackman sessions, my local one has trackman Tuesday's. Much more accurate than shelling 300 quid for this, spend it on some decent clubs or club