LOGAN (2017) Blind Wave Movie REVIEW and DISCUSSION!! (SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron review and discuss LOGAN, a film from the X-Men franchise.
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"Don't be what they made you."
"...Daddy..."
"So this is what it feels like."
And I cried like a baby.
Nick Reed at first, I thought he meant “this is what it feels like to die.” After re-watching, I realize he meant “this is what it feels like to love. To have a family.”
It can be seen either way
It was for death
Actually I managed to hold back for this part, but when she turned the cross into an "X" ... Too much to handle !
James Howlett is actually his born name, logan is a name he adopted from his dad :)
who he stabbed to death
adam bump after seeing him murder his fake father
His brother Sabretooth calls him Jimmy as well
FrankDaTank420 ! Sabertooth is only his brother in the movies by the way :D
What I don't get is how is that relation managed in the first X-Men film
"So that's what that feels like..."
*everyone cries*
+Silky Johnson
You cried, dont lie :D Look at you, acting all hard n shit lol u a bitch just like the rest of us.
Who you think you playin dawg?
Sven Kopperud so serious on a RUclips video
Yosh Monster
I was taking the piss. Was it the smiley face, or the white Norweigen person talking like he is from an American black neighborhood that confused you?
MagmaAscending I think "the most perfect night" scene was the most emotional one in the entire movie, it starts out so peaceful and quiet, until Xavier begins talking about how he killed people in Westchester, he doesn't even name any names because he was so afraid of remembering, and then it became peaceful again when Xavier tells Logan he finally understands him almost in relief, as if he has gotten over the death of the x men by getting it off his chest. Then the audience stare in horror as the familiar three blades pierce through his body.
MagmaAscending I
The saddest scene for me is Logan grieving Charle's death. Teared up more in that scene than the others. It must've sucked for Charles to get killed by someone he thought was Logan, his only friend left.
Yes but Prof X saw Logan (X-24) Stab him and the look on his face was shock like "Why, Logan" That is why Logan ran upstairs and started saying "It wasn't me!"
OldSchoolLimp wolverine never cried until then. he's chocked on his own words.
When Laura Started Crying And Saying "Daddy!" When He Died I Had To Look Away To Hold Back Tears....
Radius Jordan me too! 😩
i cry like a little bitch
Radius Jordan the trick is to open ya eyes really wide and not blink... Lol, I had 2 do that 4 a while
yea something you haven't seen since yo cam out your mom
"Don't be what they made you"
Sweet dreams are made of this!... Who am I too disagree!
I am groot
Marvelmania360 No, this is patrick
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN AAARON!!!
I usually don't get choked up at movies often.. Jesus Christ Logan had no regard for my emotional restraint haha.
jaydexe says the nets fan
Dafne Keen aka X-23 has gymnastic background. That helped her get the action scenes look great.
xBoolin Actually, Hugh Jackman said she did a lot of her stunts
In an interview they said the scene were she jumped of his back had to be reshot a few times since she was having too much fun with that and had trouble keeping her face scowling. I kinda can relate to that.
Idk about the adult stunt double, but she has a child stunt double. There's a news story/interview on RUclips with her stunt double, a 11 year old girl who does karate I believe
Calliban's last words: Beware the light.
Xavier's last words (pretty sure..): Forget the Sunseeker. (or something like that)
Logan's last words: So this is how it feels.
*tears*
Calliban went out like a boss.
Charles said "The Sunseeker."
Astro Gobo it was forget the sunseeker
i loved calibans death
What I thought Caliban survived at the end? This movie is too good to only watch once.
Listening to Logan address Charles as his father really touched me, I always appreciated their father-son dynamic throughout the series.
Isn't Logan older
Favorite rated R movie: Logan
Action movie: Logan
Superhero movie: Login
Western movie: Login
Movie: Logan
Advanced Gaming Artist if this is your favorite of all of those, you must not watch movies
Forgetting about GBU and Unforgiven?
UnlicensedOkie
I actually do watch a lot of movies. Just because I find Logan as my favorite doesn't mean that all others are terrible. My opinion is what it is.
Nice! Mine is logout :)
Crew at blind wave I can confidently say as an adult I cried my eyes and heart out during this movie. Never been so bummed in my life.
Except when I look in the mirror or my wallet
TerraFirma I mean, when one has as long of an emotional attachment to a character like this, it can feel like losing a real person. So I believe him.
as soon as laura said "daddy" that was it. i was heartbroken and broke out in tears. i couldn't handle it. that little girl fighting along side with her father for only a week or 2 and to finally see the love only when logan dies.....i can't. Couldn't stop crying
Anim-Nee-Chan not at all. I didn't cry either, even though it was extremely sad
erin is right about Charles killing the X-Men. they didn't directly state it but the scene right after the casino when they are on the road you can hear the radio talking about how a year earlier there was the same incident at the Westminister area with over 600 people and the death of several mutants including members of the X-Men. Logan shuts off the radio just as they say X-Men so Charles can't hear it. I love that they did it, just because its a tragic ending. Charles spent his whole life trying to save these mutants and form this team only to be the one that brought its downfall.
it's Aaron, just so ya know.
Erin tends to be the way girls spell it.
Wow, I literally just got back from seeing the movie.. btw I still have tears on my face..
The hinted at easter egg as to why the reavers/bad guys had to stop the children before they reached the US/Canadian boarder is because on the other side was the mutant team Alpha Flight (the group of mutant heroes Wolverine originally belonged too) Because they work directly FOR the Canadian government they couldn't cross the border to get the children, but if the reavers entered Canada hunting children, they would have been utterly destroyed by Canada's secret mutant-special forces.
Utterly amazing movie. Brutal, shocking, heartbreaking, emotional rollercoaster... 10/10 for me.
That final shot with the cross put a huge lump in my threat.
Jackman was immense, best performance as Wolverine in his entire run. Stewart ruled everything as I expected but I couldn't believe how perfect Dafne was as Laura.
I loved it. It was the perfect ending to and era of my life. As I get older, all of these franchises I grew up with are ending and that makes me sad. I liked that they took some pieces from different story lines in the comics but also made it their own.
samanthachristine89 yes OLD MAN LOGAN storyline was big inspiration in this movie. I loved Logan’s character in this movie;grim violent but heartfelt. Logan is my favorite x men movie now.
The whole killing the X-Men thing (Charles over Logan - they made it subtle, but that's definitely the case) was a really interesting and tragic reverse. Firstly, as you guys pointed out, in the comic that is the basis for this story it's Logan, not Charles who kills them - and the film plays on this (as well as introducing that idea of Logan's guilt to audiences unfamiliar with the comic - so most people watching it) when Charles says in his feverish state "Logan, what did you do?" after Logan says the mutants are all gone now.
Then the subtle realization that it was in fact Charles, and he can't remember the incident hits so hard... hinted at first when Caliban is talking about him not being able to remember (thankfully) and the WMD comment from Donald Pierce. Then followed by the radio reference to an incident in Westchester that was similar to the hotel seizure (which Logan responds to by checking to see if Charles has heard then turns it off)... they even say "x-" just before the radio turns off.
And the payoff comes with final confirmation made brutal by Charles himself remembering and confessing his guilt to what he thinks is Logan, immediately before being killed. Wow. Such a small, subtle part of this movie... and an indicator of how well conceived and put together this thing was. Loved it.
It was Charles who killed the X Men, that's why Logan kept giving him medicine to forget what he did, and that's why they declared his brain a weapon of mass destruction because he also killed normal people with the seizure. I heard they originally wanted Sabertooth in the movie but scrapped it because they wanted Logan as the main character.
James was his original name before he knew he was a mutant, in Origins after he kills his dad and realizes he's a mutant, he runs away with his brother but his brother calls him Jimmy from what I remember.
Yeah I finally realized that today after watching it last Friday haha.
Sorry, finally realized what? It's just I put a lot of stuff there so idk which one you're talking about lol
Just the part where Charles is the one who killed the X-Men. I was thinking the guy who was making the new mutants killed the X-Men for the entire movie.
Ohhh. I'm pretty sure he's just the reason why there aren't any more mutants born, I guess he killed the race, but didn't actually kill them
How did he kill the race, but not kill them? They kept talking about the Westchester incident throughout the movie which is where the mansion was located. They also said Professor X had one of his seizures at the incident and some were killed and many were injured.
The doctor Zandar Rice wasn't Stryker's son. Rice's father was Dr. Dale Rice, who was one of the scientists beside Stryker in Apocalypse. During his murder spree, Logan killed him offscreen while Stryker escaped in a helicopter.
Daphne keen stole the show as x-23! Super impressed with her performance!!
Don't get how some people didn't like the fact that there were comic books in the movie, I mean, for me it was super cool that they payed homage to it
Hugh Jackman is 100% done with Wolverine. Patrick Stewart said he's also probably done. He said it's probably the perfect time to end it.
lol
Greetings from Mexico City, I really enjoy these debates after the movies, really cool guys you are. Thumbs up.
when I saw this movie and the Marvel logo came up I did that finger thing Calvin and Eric do when watching Marvel tv shows with Aaron lol
+Abhishek Kaushal I did it too! -Eric
*lol* :'D
Hey Eric have you ever tried pulled pork poutine at the movie theatre? Do they sell that there?
his real birth name was James Logan Howlett. after weapon x he only remembered the Logan part and always went by that.
no it was his fathers name so he took it when he ran away after he stabbed him to death
adam bump oh yeah you're right Logan was his biological father's name but his birth name was James howlett.
Cristian Delgado Logan is a name a girl named Rose gave him in the Origin comic
Ian Alam ohh yeah. I guess I'm getting the movie confused with the comic but yeah rose was the first redhead he ever loved and Lost and he ended up accidentally stabbing her to death when sabretooth, back then under the name Dog, attacked them.
Yea and when he went back in time (days of future past) he learned about his history probably at the end of the movie when he was pulled out of the water by Stryker and his group(idk why they made mystique disguise as Stryker) and then jean grey gave him all his memory back in apocalypse
I had streams of tears pouring down my face at that last scene. I've never cried that hard because of a movie, not even the dang notebook made me cry that much.
When she turns cross to an X. That hit me!
@ 27:45 that's the beauty of having the same director. Logan and The Wolverine (in japan) same director.
I accidentally let out a loud "NOO" when that Professor X scene happened.
Scared some people in the theatre.
Logan's healing factor deteriorated because of the chemical in the corn syrup that killed off most of the mutants and is preventing mutants from being born. Because of his deteriorated healing factor, the adamanitum is poisoning him and killing him and also making his healing factor less effective, thus causing him to grow old. So, his healing factor greatly reduced. It was x2 less effective because of all this. It survived the thing that killed off mutants and kept him from completely dying from the adamantium inside of him and it simply prioritized keeping him alive rather than keeping him young and healthy. I mean.. that kinda just shows you how powerful his healing factor was.
You guys had dust flying through your cinemas too. I was wondering why my eyes were watering at the end. Going to go watch it again this weekend so I had better take my air purifier just in case.
I got so depressed from this movie
in the comics wolverine didn't go crazy he was mind controlled I don't remember by who but he saw the X-men as all his enemy's and went on a murderous rampage killing them all and when he finally came to it was too late
Jamal Taylor by mysterio
Jamal Taylor mysterio
I find it pretty awesome Mysterio who most people don’t take seriously accomplished that :)
When they first mentioned X-24 and building something "even better" I started to groan inwardly, remembering Weapon XI. I was pleasantly surprised.
Thanks Blindwave crew! Great review video. You absolutely had to follow up the trailer reviews for Logan. I enjoyed it.
I love your movie reviews, so glad you did one for this awesome film
I saw this in Dolby it was fucking awesome. The sound was incredible. Then add the fact the seats would vibrate add much more to Xavier's seizers.
Christopher .Cruse woah that's so cool
Christopher .Cruse it call 4d
Klein Jeanty no it wasn't 4D is different than Dolby Atmos. 4D has immersed senses like wind smoke smell and moving chairs. Dolby has high dynamic image and sound with reclining seats that vibrate with certain sounds.
In the comics, James was his born name. He got the name Logan from his actual dad. His real fathers name was Logan.
I nearly made it through the whole movie without crying but they got me at the end with the cross turning into an x. I couldn't help but to tear up there
Did any of you notice that Logan's plot was the same as Metal Gear Solid 4. A modified weapon with an implanted kill switch to kill them prematurely. With Logan it was adamantium and Solid Snake was with genetics.
Damn this one hurt. First superhero movie series I ever watched when I was kid, and Wolverine has always been my favorite over anyone else. Teared up at the end when Logan said " So this is how it feels" almost like he's talking to all of us who've been along for the ups and downs of his journey all these years. Need more of X-23 now as a replacement for this lost man
James Howlett was his real name. Logan was the name someone gave hi,
Logan was taken from his father Tomas Logan who James stabbed to death
Dr. Rice was actually Stryker`s brother i think, cuz if im not mistaken Stryker`s son was Jason, the paralyzed dude in X2.
They covered the power that Charles really has in X2 when Stryker had him hooked up to Cerebro and wanted him to wipe out all mutants in an instant with his mind
munchmagic08 Find all the mutants thats what I thought it was
Find them all and kill them all wasn't it? They used Strykers son to control him, and if my memory holds up the X-Men fell to their knees clutching their heads right before he got snapped out of it by Magneto changing the room decor
+munchmagic08 that is what happens, and then mystique turns to striker to tell his son to do the same to humans
munchmagic08 and cerebro could of poisoned his mind overtime creating the incident in Manchester
Charles only killed the mutants at the mansion without cerebro and then the government put drugs in the food and drink in America that stopped mutation
I was surprised that Stephen Merchant was in this movie as Caliban
"Don't be what they made you" this movie broke my heart. Incredibly sad movie but we got Wolverine we always wanted and it was awesome.
stryker's son was jason. Zander rice was a son of one of the other doctors on the project
When he buried charles and say "there is water" i fucking cried
Man so glad you guys reviewed this movie. Just wandering how many times did you guys cry? I cried about three time in this beautiful perfect movie.
Wonderful review guys! 👏 😊 Loved hearing all of your thoughts. _Logan_ was such an unforgettably powerful experience.
35:50 that scene gave me so many fucking chills
15:19 Sorry to correct you, but it's the other way round. James Howlett is his birth name, Logan is his fathers name that he took up as an alias.
Zander Rice's dad wasn't Stryker lol He was just a guy who Wolverine killed when escaping from the Weapon X program.
Also, I'm pretty sure they said they were crossing into Canada, not just aimlessly wandering into the woods
Also i never made the connection back to the wolverine movie in japan with "Yukio" is her name. Thank you Erik for opening my eyes to such a wonderful theory! And it really does make sense, there was blood everywhere, and the vision he had his heart in his hand when he died. His daughter would/could've been his heart.
Zander Rice's father was not Stryker, his father was just someone who worked on the Weapon X project, and he was killed during Logan's rampage in X-Men: Apocalypse.
Colton G he said great grandfather
Dean Joyner That still doesn't work. Try watching X-MEN Apocalypse again.
I managed to hold back the tears until Laura cried 'Daddy'..... I just lost it at that point
Also Wolverines skull is covered in adamantium so Charles' powers are not as effective due to the barrier that's why the keep Charles in the water tower which helps him get resistance. if you watch that scene again laura is struggling as well to move because she does not have adamantium on her skull. Also Logan's healing factor is affected by both the corn Syrup and the adamantium poisoning.
awe Aaron, I have a phobia of needles too. Have to turn my head for movies ❤
I think the last scene where Logan says "so this is what is feels like" could be because of a bunch of different things like what dying feels like or what having a daughter/family feels like since its the first time he's had anyone to call him daddy
James howlett is his real name when he was born in a the 1800s
Logan was the name he gave himself.
jonathan Tavira- Alcaraz he was born in 1845
That's when he was a kid laying in bed cause he was sick
The original plan for Logan was to have Sabretooth as the main villain, but the director changed it to be X-24 in order to make the story more centred on Logan's personal struggle against himself and his history.
The thing that still sticks with me the most when X-24 shows up is that yeah, when Charles is going on about a lovely night and everything, your hackles are raised because you know it can't last, you know something has to happen and 'Logan' standing in the doorway was raising all kinds of alarms but I couldn't rationalize it. I didn't even think about the possibility that it was a dream or something, and I was like 'maybe it's someone else' but the problem was Charles looked over his shoulder, saw someone he trusted, and him not panicking lured me into a false sense of security for those precious few moments. So him getting stabbed suddenly by a young wolverine fucked me up.
I'm so late, I just watched the movie last night and I have to say I loved it. The fight scenes were amazing, the CGI was on point. Yes it's sad and I hate to see Hugh Jackman go but this was the only way for him to go... A freakin blood bath! I want to see where they go from here. Great review guys! 👍
It is implied that X-24 does not have rapid healing. After he was shot and pinned to the bulldozer, he just stayed that way until they pulled him down and gave him an injection.
As far as that power serum, I remember that at one point in the comics, they had some sort of inhalant "x: drug that REALLY increased mutant powers, but it also was super addictive
I've seen it 3 times now, I've had time to think about it. It's in my personal top 5 movies of all time. I loved it that much, it was an outstanding movie and experience. Btw, I loved origins and the wolverine....everyone hates them but Hugh Jackman made those films watchable. Truly gonna miss this incarnation of wolverine! Bravo 👏🏼
There isn't an Eden. "Eden" was basically a code name for the coordinates of the rendevous point. When they got there, they arranged for asylum to Canada, so when Logan dies, they weren't trying to get to Eden; Laura had already driven them there. They were just crossing the border.
Also, the coordinates weren't "everywhere". They were in the comic book (where they got the idea), on the photo (which Laura used as a memento and a reminder of where to go) and on the cash (that Gloria gave to Logan, so he'd know where to go). That's not an unreasonable amount.
The holding your heart reference was that moment in The Wolverine when he cut himself open to get that device out of his chest. He was literally holding his own heart in his hand.
Nice review you guys. Just glad to hear your overall thoughts on the movie.
Immediately started crying when I found out Tigers were extinct
Logan is the best there is at what an X-Men movie should do. I doubt we'll see a movie with X-Men characters like this for a long time.
I think we should treat all the X-Men movies as an anthology series rather than a cohesive franchise. Each movie pretty much is a standalone. As an anthology, you can forgive the conflicts in continuity (which are just too numerous to resolve.)
In the comics he didn't go crazy. Mysterio tricked him into thinking that Villains were invading the school trying to kill the students(kids). Wolverine told the kids to go get the X men and got pissed that they didn't come so he went berserk mode and slaughtered all the villains which was soon revealed that to be his team
James howlett was his original born name. He adopted the name logan later in life.
In the Old man Logan comic, Wolverine didn't go crazy. He was tricked. Tricked in the sense that he truly believed he was fighting super villains and killing them. As to how he got tricked was by a spiderman super villain who was tasked to personally target wolverine. That villain is mysterio, he casts illusions that all look, feel and sound real. What does wolverine rely on his animalistic senses, you take that away/use it against him, he's basically fucked example when he set out to find the winter soldier, he leads wolverine into a newspaper factor and he fights wolverine covered in ink which allows bucky to do sneak attacks and make it harder for him to get a scent since the whole building smells of ink. In all you suceed by tricking his senses into believing that he's seeing/smelling. But in reality unknown to him till it was to late and later revealed he was actually fighting and killing off the x-men. Logan succeeded because mysterios illusion was so perfect, and wolverine was so caught up in the act of defending the mansion and trying to find the x-men while cutting down these "villains". Mysterio himself said something along the lines as you arrogant fool thinking you could kill all these villains all by yourself, but you know who you could kill, your friends because they would hesitate.
Caliban was in Apocalypse, he was with Psylocke when she joins Apocalypse so I think that's what they were refering to when they said he used to be different or on the other side
It's not at all related to the comics, but it might be interesting if they use the kids from Logan in a Runaways-ish type story. Obviously not the Runaways story, but the group of kids with a common background becoming an actual team. It could breathe some new life into things with new stories unique to the MCU and doesn't have to be based on the comics.
James Howlett is his born name. Logan is the short name he gave himself. X-23 has the foot claws in the comics.
Great review, I'd definitely be interested in more movie reviews from you guys, especially with the plethora of nerdy stuff out all the time nowadays.
The kids didn't want to use their powers because they realized they were being used as weapons to kill people. Being controlled. Hints the reason why one of the kids on a scene jumped off the building rather than accept being used. So, when the kids were running through the woods, they only used their powers when they absolutely needed to.
23:30
The only thing I questioned in this movie was the addition of the other kids, as they just seemed to contribute little to the value of the story.
I think the movie also implied that not only did Charles kill the X-men but he is the cause of way there are no more mutants
When she called him "Daddy" I lost it
Finally, I've been waiting for this.
To your question, Caliban was used in X-Men: Apocalypse.
If Disney had Wolverine they would never make a old man logan movie ilke this it would be PG BULLSHIT
The best acting in this film has to go to the scene of Laura and Logan in the 4x4 screaming at each other and her punching him.
On the radio in the beginning and in other parts of the movie it was implied that they did genetic therapy to get rid of the x gene by modifying foods and placing chemicals in the shampoos.
they missed alot it was implied that Eden was real as the boy Victor with the earth power is was getting permission and coordinates from skemone, also they didn't mention the part where they mentioned how the mutants were removed and I'm pretty sure there were more mutants alive
Liked the comic. It's the real world and the comics show glorified events. Saw the Eden location used just as a meet up point not actually Eden because they still had to cross the border for freedom
I'd love a film where you have Laura and the other kids like 10 years down the road, in their 20s being the new X-Men.
Also I really hope Fox takes the opportunity, now some of their major players are leaving the franchise, to do a FULL reboot and just do the X-Men properly now. Marvel-up the costumes, make it more fun and adventurous. Basically, make X-Men films the way Marvel Studios would.
Donald Pierce was a reaver, she the reavers from the comics were all cybernetic mercenaries that really hated mutants. At one point, they were even led by Lady Deathstrike, who was actually used back
in X2.
I kinda equated the comics to being like the stories they used to publish back in the wild west, about gunslingers that were still out there doing shit.
In the comics, they use a green "serum" to make Laura kill without remorse, so maybe the serum they used in the movie made them angry, plus enhance their powers.
i think x-23's actress' dad taught her some tricks on acting considering her father was an actor/director
Old man logan from the comics healing factor was slow because of him not using it. It sped up again when he started to fight everyone.
I have a question: logan takes place in the year 2029, and any mutant was born in 25 years, so what happened in this new timeline that nobody saw? the doctor was already contaminating the food in 2004?
well...blindwave don't forget that not only does he have a daughter (Laura/x-23) but in the comics he also has a non-clone, bone clawed son (daken)
-A home. You should take a moment...Feel it.
ERIK!!!! SCREENRANT JUST POSTED AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HIS DEAATH BEING PREDICTED IN THE WOLVERINE!
i thought they named their boat 'the sunseeker' because that was the name the shi'ar gave to phoenix (and as a spoiler for the dark phoenix movie coming out)