The stickyness could be from the ketchup. On average most times that will not be a issue however but I’d wash the brushroll and do a clean without anything on the floor. I bet the stick will be gone after that.
For sure, w/ these kinds of flloors, that are porous and hold every bit of dirt and grime that has ever passed over it. I have those floors, but in a light colour and they will not come clean no matter what. I've gotten on my knees w/ scrubbers, soaked it w/ bleach, nothing works. So I cleaned and drained the shinebot between each clean, incl. the brushroll, and gave it three runs. It did a decent job on my horrible linoleum. It did an immaculate job on my dirty hardwood w/ only 2 runs. When I spilled water, I used a paper towel and there wasn't a trace of dirt to be seen. very impressive. I have the dumb model and I'm pleased enough w/ it.
This shinebot series must have not sold well because it is near impossible to find them brand new. Especially the W450! I have a refurbished W400 that I really like but the navigation is lacking. So I'd like a W450 but there is only a single unit on Ebay...
Great review Adam. How do you compare this vs Narwhal in terms of cleaning. Does it clean caked in and dried spots without pre-soaking as you had done in the Narwhal review.
I will say one advantage of the swiffer bots like the original Braava is that you can use them on unsealed laminate and wood without damaging them. I learned with my scooba the hard way that bots like the one in this video can damage those types of floors. That being said....I want it
This bot works on unsealed laminate aswell. Just make sure to use less water and do an extra dryrun if possible. In fact, i will argue that when it comes to any method (including manual mopping) this robot might be much better suited as it does a really really good job at removing the water from the floor.
@@Trikkie87 my main problem is the area where my laminate is, is around 400 sqft. So when it gets back to do the dry run, the damage is already done. I even had some damage last night when I didn't notice I had accidentally spilled some water cleaning the aquarium filter and it soaked some of it up within 20 minutes. When I can get new floors, I'm getting pvc based vinyl in that room.
You had a lot of ketchup on the floor and it did and amazing job. It also did a deep cleaning of lots of long held grime you can't see, because of the porous nature and busy pattern that hides it all. Any hand washing would have taken a few rinses to get rid of all that ketchup stickiness. I hate that kind of flooring too. I have the basic 400s Shinebot and I love it. My floors like that, I gave it 3 runs, but those floors never come clean. Mine are a lot paler, so you can see the ground in dirt in the all those crevices, some idiot thought would be a good idea on kitchen linoleum. Who thinks of this shit? Not a woman designer, I'll tell you that for free. Anyhoo, I have to give it a pass for my kitchen, but it does an impeccible job on my hardwood. I did 2 full cleans (my floors don't get washed often) on the hardwood and they felt great. Spilled water later and used a paper towel as a white glove test type deal. Hardwood was perfect. My kitchen, I've scrubbed w;/ every type of pad, every cleaner, incl. bleach, galley mob, nothing gets that b*st*ard clean. Can't wait to get rid of it too.
Could you in the future show the model a bit? Like the underside and watertank and stuff.Does look like it's doing a good job though, except for the sticky floor, I hope it didnt just wipe the ketchup all over your floor
I love my dumb Shinebot. I'll wear it out and by then, maybe they'll have made it slimmer to get under things properly. That's my only complaint w/ it. I'm still working on gettting the right robot vaccum, and because it won't even fit under a couch, I'm looking for the right 2 in 1 w/ a mop to scooch under everything the Shinebot can't. I'll probably go w/ the Shark AI w/ the sonic mop, though I really want a self empty one for my dust allergy.
The problem with this bot is that by the time I get it setup to go I could already be half done swiffering my kitchen manually. But, I think the cleaning mechanism is great. Put that together with the navigation and autodock/charge of the bravat et M6 and that might be perfection.
Is that really true though? It takes about 2 minutes to grab, setup and 4 minutes to clean so a total of 6 minutes. if I need to setup my own mop I need to 1. Get the mop and bucket 2. Prepare the bucket, then the actual mopping and then another round of mopping to clean the ledtover dirty water I didnt get in the same round. Than I also have to clean the washable mop and get rid of the dirty water. The only extra things I need to do with this robot is basically using a cone to fill the water. On the plusside however, I only have to mop the corners of the floor once a month. Saves me litterally 4 hours a month.
This robot can do mopping at anytime. Small apartment may easy to mop but big house is a pain to manual mop. You have to reclean the mop for nice result. This robot can do several pass and it system which collect waste and spray new water is brilliant
Great review. I'd love to know how this compares to the mopping performance of the Roborock S7. Although the S7 is a hybrid vac+mop, a lot of reviews seem to say it's mopping performance is really good.
I have the s7 and w450 and while the s7 is an awesome vacuum, ever since I got the w450 im not using it to mop anymore. The w450 is just that good. Its like normally mopping yourself but without ai detecting dirty spots.
$350 seems like a fair price. My home isabout 80% premium vinyl hardwoods, bathrooms are both ceramic tile, about 1,000 sq. feet total. Do you think it could do the entire house with a single charge and tank?
Hey, question on this model, can you lock it into your local network and still use the app? Like I prefer to not allow objects with cameras phone home, but I don't know how locally it runs. If you can't I might just do the w400.
Yeah you have to experiment first. I hope they won't get big liability claims, as using this on max water and fast speed will absolutely destroy unsealed hardwood and laminate floors.
Lol a tiny spec of sauce. Let's get serious put the whole bottle down. Chuck in some dried mud from kids shoes and get a real review in. I'm so keen to get this unit but it's not available in Australia yet
@@kylinsimonchow oh. Yeah I found them a while ago they have very bad reviews as a store and are grey importers. Apparently the warranty is also not official and they Have a decent mark up
Wow. It is really better. I was thinking about these robots, but I was inclined to buy the brava 250 because it’s getting cheaper. Do you think it’s crap compared to this one? 👋👍🏻🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
I own and use a Braava Jet 240 and it works great. Kinda on par with Swifting. I use it 3X a week in my kitchen and bathroom. Wouldn’t trust it on my hardwood floors with area rugs(might have problems navigating the rugs) but for a full tile floor it’s great.
@@SuperCarlosReis welcome and enjoy. I would spend the extra money and buy the reusable mop pads and the Cleaning solution that IRobot sells for this machine. Good luck 🍀
Just bought one of these; works surprisingly well for the money and miles better than my old Scooba for less than half the price
The stickyness could be from the ketchup. On average most times that will not be a issue however but I’d wash the brushroll and do a clean without anything on the floor. I bet the stick will be gone after that.
For sure, w/ these kinds of flloors, that are porous and hold every bit of dirt and grime that has ever passed over it. I have those floors, but in a light colour and they will not come clean no matter what. I've gotten on my knees w/ scrubbers, soaked it w/ bleach, nothing works. So I cleaned and drained the shinebot between each clean, incl. the brushroll, and gave it three runs. It did a decent job on my horrible linoleum. It did an immaculate job on my dirty hardwood w/ only 2 runs. When I spilled water, I used a paper towel and there wasn't a trace of dirt to be seen. very impressive. I have the dumb model and I'm pleased enough w/ it.
I got this robot mop I love it I have wooden floors throughout my whole house it's perfect for my needs
I'm glad you like the W450. This is definitely better than the W400!
@Roomba Random Videos The W450 can connect to an app and has a Camera for Smarter Navigation versus the W400.
This shinebot series must have not sold well because it is near impossible to find them brand new. Especially the W450! I have a refurbished W400 that I really like but the navigation is lacking. So I'd like a W450 but there is only a single unit on Ebay...
Great review Adam. How do you compare this vs Narwhal in terms of cleaning. Does it clean caked in and dried spots without pre-soaking as you had done in the Narwhal review.
I will say one advantage of the swiffer bots like the original Braava is that you can use them on unsealed laminate and wood without damaging them. I learned with my scooba the hard way that bots like the one in this video can damage those types of floors. That being said....I want it
This bot works on unsealed laminate aswell. Just make sure to use less water and do an extra dryrun if possible.
In fact, i will argue that when it comes to any method (including manual mopping) this robot might be much better suited as it does a really really good job at removing the water from the floor.
@@Trikkie87 my main problem is the area where my laminate is, is around 400 sqft. So when it gets back to do the dry run, the damage is already done. I even had some damage last night when I didn't notice I had accidentally spilled some water cleaning the aquarium filter and it soaked some of it up within 20 minutes. When I can get new floors, I'm getting pvc based vinyl in that room.
@@Rite1010. Use 2 robots. Second one will do Dry run right after the first one, problem solved.
i wonder if its the ketchup that is making the floor sticky? can you redo it without putting ketchup on the floor?
Try it in your new testing room just get some borders up to keep it on the hard floor
You had a lot of ketchup on the floor and it did and amazing job. It also did a deep cleaning of lots of long held grime you can't see, because of the porous nature and busy pattern that hides it all. Any hand washing would have taken a few rinses to get rid of all that ketchup stickiness. I hate that kind of flooring too.
I have the basic 400s Shinebot and I love it. My floors like that, I gave it 3 runs, but those floors never come clean. Mine are a lot paler, so you can see the ground in dirt in the all those crevices, some idiot thought would be a good idea on kitchen linoleum. Who thinks of this shit? Not a woman designer, I'll tell you that for free. Anyhoo, I have to give it a pass for my kitchen, but it does an impeccible job on my hardwood. I did 2 full cleans (my floors don't get washed often) on the hardwood and they felt great. Spilled water later and used a paper towel as a white glove test type deal. Hardwood was perfect. My kitchen, I've scrubbed w;/ every type of pad, every cleaner, incl. bleach, galley mob, nothing gets that b*st*ard clean. Can't wait to get rid of it too.
Could you in the future show the model a bit? Like the underside and watertank and stuff.Does look like it's doing a good job though, except for the sticky floor, I hope it didnt just wipe the ketchup all over your floor
I love my dumb Shinebot. I'll wear it out and by then, maybe they'll have made it slimmer to get under things properly. That's my only complaint w/ it. I'm still working on gettting the right robot vaccum, and because it won't even fit under a couch, I'm looking for the right 2 in 1 w/ a mop to scooch under everything the Shinebot can't. I'll probably go w/ the Shark AI w/ the sonic mop, though I really want a self empty one for my dust allergy.
I always life chairs. Just takes more energy and time to navigate around legs
Hello, are you sûre the machine does not Say that it ran out of water ? Other reviewers Say it does...
The problem with this bot is that by the time I get it setup to go I could already be half done swiffering my kitchen manually. But, I think the cleaning mechanism is great. Put that together with the navigation and autodock/charge of the bravat et M6 and that might be perfection.
Is that really true though? It takes about 2 minutes to grab, setup and 4 minutes to clean so a total of 6 minutes. if I need to setup my own mop I need to 1. Get the mop and bucket 2. Prepare the bucket, then the actual mopping and then another round of mopping to clean the ledtover dirty water I didnt get in the same round. Than I also have to clean the washable mop and get rid of the dirty water. The only extra things I need to do with this robot is basically using a cone to fill the water. On the plusside however, I only have to mop the corners of the floor once a month.
Saves me litterally 4 hours a month.
This robot can do mopping at anytime. Small apartment may easy to mop but big house is a pain to manual mop. You have to reclean the mop for nice result. This robot can do several pass and it system which collect waste and spray new water is brilliant
Great review. I'd love to know how this compares to the mopping performance of the Roborock S7. Although the S7 is a hybrid vac+mop, a lot of reviews seem to say it's mopping performance is really good.
wait till they try w450
Smartmi A1, same concept but smarter.
I’d like one but I’m not sure I like the idea of spending that much money for a robot to just wash the floor.
Would be interesting to compare with Roborock s7. I like in this that always put fresh water before. I have an w400, but i like the improvements.
I will be getting it when the self empty bin is out.
I have the s7 and w450 and while the s7 is an awesome vacuum, ever since I got the w450 im not using it to mop anymore. The w450 is just that good. Its like normally mopping yourself but without ai detecting dirty spots.
What is the surface area it Can mop with a full tank at max water, 70 percent speed or max speed ?
$350 seems like a fair price. My home isabout 80% premium vinyl hardwoods, bathrooms are both ceramic tile, about 1,000 sq. feet total. Do you think it could do the entire house with a single charge and tank?
I think you would need to fill the tank again unless you set the water flow to low
Why You wear shoes inside the house ?????
Adam, please compare it with Roborock S7.
Good job
Hey, question on this model, can you lock it into your local network and still use the app? Like I prefer to not allow objects with cameras phone home, but I don't know how locally it runs. If you can't I might just do the w400.
Actually, does it need wifi at all? I'm happy to use the remote to control these settings
Did you figure out why it was so sticky?
The settings on this mop are confusing af. You can set the water, brush, speed, suction etc but there are no recommendations in terms of the settings
Yeah you have to experiment first. I hope they won't get big liability claims, as using this on max water and fast speed will absolutely destroy unsealed hardwood and laminate floors.
Lol a tiny spec of sauce. Let's get serious put the whole bottle down. Chuck in some dried mud from kids shoes and get a real review in. I'm so keen to get this unit but it's not available in Australia yet
It's available now in Oz! Am tempted...
@@kylinsimonchow where can you get it?
@@spastroboy Here auto-robot.com.au/scooba-450-braava-390-floor-washing-robots/ilife/ilife-shinebot-w450-robot-mop-demo.html
@@kylinsimonchow oh. Yeah I found them a while ago they have very bad reviews as a store and are grey importers. Apparently the warranty is also not official and they Have a decent mark up
Great! How would you compare it with Braava m6?
How does it compare to the Bissell Spinwave? That is one of the best robot mops, but it lacks mapping.
For mopping I like this one better for sure. I did not like the spinwave because like you said no mapping
This makes me realize that there is no hybrid on the market that actually mops. Better get a cheaper vaccum and then this Shinebot w400/455
Are dry stains also gone?
So I am struggling between Narwal and W450. Narwal is 3 times the price, is it worth it? Any suggestions?
Huge price difference yes..if your house is mainly hard floors the narwal is probably better. since it can map
Wow. It is really better. I was thinking about these robots, but I was inclined to buy the brava 250 because it’s getting cheaper. Do you think it’s crap compared to this one? 👋👍🏻🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
Yes I dont really like irobots mops.
I own and use a Braava Jet 240 and it works great. Kinda on par with Swifting. I use it 3X a week in my kitchen and bathroom. Wouldn’t trust it on my hardwood floors with area rugs(might have problems navigating the rugs) but for a full tile floor it’s great.
@@DWilliam1 Thank you so much for this opinion. I’ve decided for the Brava 250. It is quite cheap now, 245,00 €. Cheers D William. 👋👍🏻🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
@@SuperCarlosReis welcome and enjoy. I would spend the extra money and buy the reusable mop pads and the Cleaning solution that IRobot sells for this machine. Good luck 🍀
@@DWilliam1 Good idea 💡. I just did on EBay Uk 🇬🇧. Have a nice weekend 😃👋🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
This needs LIDAR!!
so scooba replacement?
Yes for sure. The scooba is good but its just old and outdated.