An Instax SLR Camera Built Like a Tank - Meet the Nons SL660 [Instant Review]
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- In the age where everyone is ceasing the production of SLRs, one small business decided they'd make a new one...and make it for Instax Square! That is outrageous. We get into that and much more on this episode of the In An Instant Program.
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Freaking finally. This is the instax square camera I've been waiting for. I can't afford it of course, but eventually some rich kid will buy it, get bored of it and sell it for something I can afford.
I love seeing the direction instant film is going. Definitely out of my price range (I do agree though that it’s a very reasonable price) but I love that it exists and that people are taking an interest.
They need to make an Instax Wide camera. I gave up waiting and went with Mint.
Agreed! Hope they have one in the pipeline
@@InAnInstant they wont. They are terrified to require medium format lenses and so have these stupid optical converters that create a crapton of vignetting. They cant even support over 80mm lenses on the mini one let alone the square.
WE NEED A CAMERA WITH BELLOWS THAT TAKES 4X5 LENSES.
@@melody3741 don't they make a back that fits onto bellows 4x5 cameras?
This is good info, I only buy cameras that are going to be guaranteed one-punch kill shots in any mugging scenarios, #1 criteria tbh
The only data point you need.
These kinds of innovative cameras are really nifty, and I hope they help to spur the rest of the industry spurring into action to make more film!
Your sense of humor was SO worth the watch and this camera is now on my dream list...
I love precise framing, so for me the pinnacle of instant film camera, is to use an Instax back on a great SLR camera. I had a Mint RF70, but the framing guides were not precise at all (and Mint camera are too expansive...) ! I have an SX-70, the framing and the viewfinder are splendid, but the Polaroid film quality is not good, far from the standards of the past (Time-Zero Polaroid film). So I recently choose to buy the new Escura Hasselback (it is a new version, with focus to infinity and darkslide) to put on my Hasselblad 500cm. I hope for great results... please review it on this channel when it will be available !
Agreed, precise framing is really my bag as well. Tough to keep making compromises in that regard! Def want to try the 500cm back.
I laugh 100% of the time when watching In An Instant. This is like premium tee-vee. Thank you, Ben!
Thank YOU for Unconscious Chanting!
Another great review! This camera is pretty close to my holy grail of cameras! Thanks for keeping us informed and entertained- you made my day!
Thank you for watching Aaron!
Oh man, the photos of that E30 look sick. Love those.
That thing was absolutely ripping, so glad I caught it!
Another great review Benny 🎉
Thank you Joany!!
Would love to see this compared to an RB67 Instax back. I opted for the latter but do miss the smaller footprint of the Lomo Square sometimes (although I do still have it as my travel camera)
I love my Nons Hasselblad back, so clever design, it works perfectly, with any accessory needed, kudos to Nons !! At least precise framing and bokeh with Instax film !
Great video as always, bravissimo!
I really like that Nons is perfecting this concept!
I'm still a bit more a Mint TL fan, but the more the merrier!
Thank you so much! Can’t wait for the Mint Square TLR they’re working on!
@@InAnInstant I think you will love it! 😏
This is the review I was waiting for!
This is the comment I was waiting for!
@@InAnInstant 😂✨👯♀️
Wish I could remove the optical adapter and roll with my Pentacon Six lenses on it
Banger video as always Mr Bags, thank you
Thanks so much Abe!!
Damn, this goes to the top of my wish list. Didn't know this happened.
That design is positively CHONKY. This is the kind of innovation we've been praying for.
Chonk acquired!
That is an OG picture of the old tuxedo bus stop. Wow.
Mine arrived today 😊😊
Man. You're great to watch. I appreciate your comedy bone too! Much love from Toronto. That said, I still would rather the SQ6. That's all I want!
Much love from NY! Thanks so much for the kind words, Taha!
After watching your review I'm definitely selling my SF70 and picking one of these up. I have 4 canon FD lenses I would love to adapt to this camera. NONS told me that you have to use an optical adapter to be able to focus to infinity incase anyone else is wanting to use FL or FD lenses.
I own both models. I bought the 660 off of the Kickstarter. It's a super cool camera! I keep looking for a fix for the loss of peel-apart film like a heroin addict. It doesn't; but I prefer it over my Polaroid 690! I will most likely part with the Polaroid in favor of staying with Fuji instant film. I wish the built-in lens was removable because I'd love to put a medium format Pentax lens on there! I agree with you on the quality of the Fuji film. Love your content!
Great review.
I love my SL660. Been waiting for a full manual instant film camera for a long time (very tempted by the the Mint Instax wide but too much money for me).
My slight concerns with the SL660 is the rechargeable battery failing, the very delicate shutter button breaking and the little power on/off switch! It’s a tank of a camera, put some robust chunky switches/buttons on there!!!
I don’t really see the point in Nons making 35mm or 120 versions. There are hundreds of full manual 35mm & medium format cameras available but barely any instant film full manual cameras.
Bring on the Nons Instax wide 😃
Hell yes bring on that Instax wide, baby!!
Hey great review of this amazing piece. Just wonder what is the focusing mechanism of this camera? It seems to be extremely difficult to nail focus when the viewfinder is not ideal, which happened to be the only downside of 660… I am using the Hasselblad back newly made from NONS. Definitely like it. So would try its other products.
I got the SL42 and I am moderately happy with it except for the '80s TV show telescope vignetting. Also the sticky leather all peeled off.
I like the idea of the metal body, and I need something to replace my problematic lomo glass square...
@@ilmago5291 and yet here you are
I’ve had this camera for about a year. Only recently did I have to figure out on my own that this camera body loses a lot of light through the process of converting the image from a full-frame lens to a 6x6 picture. I have to meter at ISO 250 for accurate exposure using a Pentax 50mm lens. The on-camera light meter is calibrated for this, so you will get good exposure using it, but if you meter by hand, it will be different.
this camera is a dream come true, starting at only $599
Your review got me revvved up... and I now have one. That being said, while the Canon EF/EOS red-dot mount is nice, broad daylight pics with 800 speed film were unsuccessful. The Canon EOS lenses only offer manual focus control. BUT... my FD -> EF adapter allows usage of FD lenses with manual iris adjustment ring. And THAT helps. Overall, I love the 660, and the Square Instax. As a photographic artist, we can now exercise more creative control while creating our single original print.
Lol'd at 10:43. Great personality! And I just purchased the mini Evo and was sorely disappointed when I discovered the construction was purely plastic, when it was modelled off an X-Series. Wish this camera was slightly more compact!
damn i might buy it
wonder if olympus om would work on it
Damn, I kinda wrote this off after the initial specs were released and the viewfinder had such limited coverage but compared to the RB with a square back, this has waaaaaaaay faster lenses, and takes up so much less space. Not to mention fd lenses are cheap and plentiful. I had no idea it was a fully metal shell either. This is kinda putting it in must buy territory for me. I can definitely see why they didn’t offer a full coverage viewfinder since the body depth would have to be close to double to accommodate a mirror that large. I mean look at the depth of the RB, P67, SL66, 500C. It makes sense but it’s a bit frustrating. I’d like to see this with maybe a waist level finder option as well to really embrace the medium format feel. Only thing that wasn’t covered which could be helpful info is what kind of shutter it has and if it has flash sync capabilities. With the lens off it kind of looks like a leaf shutter behind the lens, but I’ll definitely do some more research to find out. Thanks for bringing it back to the instant roots! Feels like it’s been a while since we’ve seen something instant and I’m totally here for it.
I could use this with my Bronica ETRS-EF mount adapter and get better coverage if the adapter is removeable.
So if you can only chose between the 660 or the instantkon RF70 witch one would it be
😂 Was “ I respect wood “ , reference to Larry David Curb episode?
Oh indeed it was!!
I picked up the SL-72, and I'm still trying to figure out what ND filter to use when and where lol. I need to make myself a little spreadsheet of something xD
you're good. all success to you
I have the Mini version and it rocks, but since I have the Mint square thing, I am passing on this unless I get it as a gift!!! I use Instax Square on a Mamiya RB67 when I want the insane sharpness that is possible!!!
Great review. I’ve been wondering about the sharpness? I’ve heard it’s rather soft due to the teleconverter. Did you not find this to be the case?
Good question, I'd say images were a little bit softer than anticipated.
Can I ask, does the camera expose the whole frame of the instax film? ie edge to edge. It appears to from the pics.
What was the setup for the 6:23 wide instax shot? It looks so sharp and well exposed I’m impressed
That was taken on a large format camera with the LomoGraflok back!
Have you figured out a good case for this camera? I have one and its so chunky that i haven't figured a case yet! Its just been residing in a big soft beanie
I can't find much detail online, is it safe to use vintage flashes on the SL660 and SL645? I'd like to throw an auto thyristor flash on mine when it comes in.
Yes that should be totally fine!
God this thing is so beautiful, I really hope they make an SLR in the instax wide format, it really seems that all the options out there are weak for what they go for.
Is the battery user-replaceable?
Can you easily remove the focal enlager in the body? Would love to see what a straight up MF lens would do on one of these.
why not use medium format lenses?
I didn't pledge for this one (cause I already have the Mint INSTANTKON SF70), but I pledged for the NONS SL645. BTW, I love that you put the Diana Glass lens on the Diana Instant Square. Although, if you put the flash on it like in the video, doesn't it obstruct the way for the pictures coming out?
The SL645 looks soooo sweet, love the white design. That glass lens on the Diana Instant is super sweet, I haven't had any ejection issues with the flash!
Freaking awesome, what I always wanted for instax! But $600, ouch!
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Just bought the camera as a result of this review. Really excited to check it out. My first "new" camera purchase in like 10 years.
One thing I just realized after I ordered:. How do you control aperture on new EF lenses without an appeture ring? Can it be controlled in camera or am I gonna be stuck to wide open or something?
Great question, since it’s passive EF there is no way to control the aperture. You can preset it on a digital body and lock it at that aperture or grab some cheap manual EF lenses!
@@InAnInstant so if I set a lens to 1.8 or whatever on a digital body and then take it off it should work? Otherwise I guess it's time to grab the FD to EF Convertor
Yes that would do it! But converting lenses has been easier for me, I’ve used a bunch of vintage Nikons with the EF adapter
M42 lenses are a good option as well
They should have put a Mamiya 645 lens mount.
How does it sound when ejecting pls? I have the Mint RF70 and it's _so loud_ that I really dislike ejecting film around other people 😬 but the shutter is so quiet, so it's great at shooting quietly if it weren't so embarrassing when ejecting 🙈
I'd say nothing about this camera is particularly quiet haha, especially that chungus of a shutter!
Oh wow, what a chonker of a camera. It’s cool to see metal construction. The lomography instad cameras are all cheapish plastic, I imagine this Nons camera would make a few people intrigued if they were out and about shooting whatever as it’s quite a unique look.
I wish battery were removable
Can you use a telephoto without heavy vignetting on this model? I have a collection of Pentax-M series primes and I’d love to be able to use my 200 and 400mm lenses with this baby
I've not made the attempt, but I've seen people use them and haven't seen too many issues.
I must have missed mention of the lens mount, looked like a Canon mount in the review. Does it come with a choice of mounts?
Yes this is a “passive EF” mount, meaning it takes EF natively but without any communication with the lens (and thus you can’t use Canon EF lenses on it). A bit strange but the EF mount can very broadly be adapted to other lenses so I suppose it’s a good starting point.
You *can* use Canon EF mount lenses, but with the shutter-only control, you must rely on auto-aperature, which is likely to be overexposed outdoors in bright sun.
Wait if you can put lenses on this, can you zoom with it then?
Absolutely!
What was up with the upper corners of the photos? Most had an odd triangular shaped area with nothing.
Very odd, forgot to comment on that - most of my initial frames did not exhibit that, and later ones did. I have to assume this was from the batch of film I was using (earlier packs didn't have the issue, the rest of the backs were from the same batch and all had it).
Hmm maybe we can mount medium format lens on it to cover more surface?
Yes, you can indeed!
Wuh… Did I just see you putting a Helios on that bad boy?
Please tell me they are going to have this in wide eventually, getting kind of tired of how annoying the RF-70 is and how my focusing is apparently not calibrated
@@tapebyseaoh wow!! I really hope this goes through
If I was to buy an instant camera, it would be this one.
Honestly, the pricing on the SL660 is pretty competitive. A refurbished SLR680 is going around $800 nowadays, and doesn’t have the manual features that the Nons SL660 has.
Agreed GIII!
I’m taking this with me to space
Good we need one up there
RuPaul called, she wants her finger snap back…
6:24 what camera did u use to take this? 🎉
Intrepid large format camera with the LomoGraflok back!
woohoo!
Price tag is less of a concern than having a rechargeable battery in a 600 USD camera. That and long term shutter reliability.
I am constantly and nervously aware about that shaky ikea table
Actually this is a 1970’s diner table but yeah you have every reason to be worried
5:32 that's weed by the knob isn't it? 😉
😳
"I respect wood" - have you been watching CURB? lol
Alwayyyssss watching Curb 😂
Hello to everyone!
I know this is not relevant (maybe), but I developed an Instax mini back for the RB67. I’m about to sell it on eBay or Etsy. I don’t know the price yet, the back has to be cranked manually, but the quality is amazing due to the Mamiya lenses.
Anyway, what y’all think is a good price?
I think $300-$375 seems to be acceptable going rate for backs like that! So awesome you’ve created one
There are several modders selling square backs from $300-500, so I think you’d have to beat that to have a market since most people with an RB would probably prefer the larger format since the camera covers it
@@InAnInstant It took me several months and some spools of filament to finish it, but I might give it for cheaper than that. I feel like it should be more accesible to other people. I’m happy to send you one if you would like :D
@@hellothisiskyle I thought about that too and working in a square format was too expensive for me to develop. I might give it around $200ish? Maybe? Idk how does it feel?
I don’t know what to think about this camera, tbh. I love that they actually ventured to make an SLR instant camera (as opposed to those crappy viewfinder cameras by Lomo and the horrible viewfinder of the MINT ones), but they dropped the ball in so many senses that I don’t think is worth it.
The frame coverage of the viewfinder is unacceptable, what’s the point of having an SLR camera if you can only see the center of your frame? I can tell immediately that they compromised on the prism size, they should have made it much bigger to achieve full coverage. Also, they should have just ditch the 35mm compatibility (or make it optional) and commit to medium format lenses mount options. even a 645 lens covers Square film full frame, without extra optics that sacrifice image quality and reduce light transmission. Also, the shutter would benefit greatly from 1/500 speed, the 800 ISO speed is too high to shoot wide open in sunlight and this would have helped (ND filters are an option but being an SLR camera the viewfinder would get dim very fast). It’s clear that it can be achieved with modern electronic shutters as the MiNT camera has it.
I would rather pay $1000 or more for a no-compromise perfect camera than $600 for one with so much deficiencies. A good step-up from crappy Lomo cameras and much better than the disaster that is the MiNT cameras, but not good enough. Maybe for a third version they’ll get it right and I would be finally able to consider getting one.
I would find it so interesting if they just happened to stick a 120 film transport into that ...
Also, this thing *does* actually make me want to shoot Instax Square for basically the first time ever.
The most spectacular reality would be a 120 transport insert so that it could do both! Might be too pie in the sky 😂
@@InAnInstant Haha. This is America! This is the 2020s We can put a man on the Moon, we can do this! 🤩
Not for me if you can’t replace the battery, same problem with Polaroid.
how does putting a hole in a belt make one's pants heavier?
Literary anthropologists have been trying to understand that very question for centuries. I think I have the answer. It will be revealed in the review of the SX-90 on April 17th, 2043.
why cant polaroid make something this cool?
1. Blow up
2. Buy a Nons SL660
Soooo this seems like an instant version of like a 35 mm camera.
Essentially an instant version of a medium format SLR
Why don’t any of these companies use Polaroid? Does Polaroid not allow It?
Polaroid’s intellectual property is more safely guarded when it comes to cameras and processors. Also, Polaroid film requires a mirror inside the camera, unlike Fuji, so it’s a lot more challenging and costly to design/manufacture Polaroid compatible cameras.
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I think in your review you are not discussing enough the effect of the built-in 2x teleconverter. Affecting both the exposure (effectively making the film behave more like iso200) and depth of field.
You are describing it as shooting f1.9 lens with iso800, which is not correct with the included teleconverter.
This is interesting Frank, definitely should have spent some time on the effects of the teleconverter on exposure settings.
Also interested in how the teleconverter affects focal length of the lens. I’m wondering about wide angle lenses since most 2x teleconverters can’t accommodate lenses wider than around 70mm.
who decided they should be called Nonse...