Expensive Military Bump Helmet vs Cheap Airsoft Knock-Off
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So what Im hearing is,.... it’s a very expensive bike helmet
basically
Well no but yes
well its catered for the miltary, and they pay with our taxes so they dgaf for 300 bucks. and the other is that it competes with expensive protective helmets, bike helmets that are used competetively can cost the same if not more but they serve different purposes. a bump helmet like team wendy or hard head veterans (200 bucks) provide modularity for a extremely wide variety of functions. also I wouldnt want to mount an expensive NVG on a cheap 40 buck helmet either. I would want the real deal mounts on a frame that wont break.
@@richarddixon146 so why not a Kevlar helmet,…. Price is about the same ,… you get more protection out of a Kevlar, and your training with the weight you’re gonna be working with
@@DOOMMARINEUwU thats a good point. however the purpose of professional bump helmets should be used in search and rescue, maritime, and crewman roles. the ballistic protective high cut helmets typically only are at most level 3a. Being in the military, I have only seen ballistic rated helmets used for training. rifle rounds will still go thru anyways. ballistic protective helmets are also still more expensive than their bump counterparts. good example is Hard head veterans retailing ballistic helmets $400-600 and bump $200-$300. the target consumer for these companies are also military and law enforcement. so for civilian use, it does seem questionable to spend a large amount of money when a LOOGU helmet that is a high quality helmet can be bought for around 50 or a simple certified bike helmet can work for you.
I have an Emerson helmet, it's the exact shape of that one, it still has the same bike foam on the inside, but the neck strap has been upgraded, well scraped lol they now have a retention system and it is very comfortable. I wear mine on full day skirmishes and I have no problems. It stays solid on my head, no sliding. They have definately improved.
What neck strap did you buy?
@@lukevader5814 no I meant that the strap on the newer model is an upgrade from the previous one 👌✌️
@@rottenblaze6717 ok. Would it be good for security.
@@lukevader5814 I suppose so buddy
If you're not running nods, I'd probably just get a nicer airsoft helmet
Fun fact: Peltor is originally a Swedish company. Later it was purchased by the American Company 3M. Peltor ear muffs are very well known here in Finland too. I also have a pair of Peltor ballistic eye protection shades which I purchased from the Finnish Police Academy's ordinance shop years ago. I still wear them all the time. Superb quality!
The SEALS used to use pro-tec skateboarder helmets back in the day.
still do, Protec Alpha Bravo is what is used a lot for Seal Team training.
Yep or a bike helmet (motorcross, ten speed bike helmet, and etc)... Some guy used to use a Horse hat... San Diego has tons of bike paths and getting more.
Delta did in 1993 in Somalia
Bump helmets are basically tacticool bike helmets.
There are other cheap “unbranded” helmets with a retention system inside. There are even copies of the Team Wendy (gen 2 and gen 3) with some retention system. I got a FAST copy and it has a retention system that actually works, it’s reasonably comfortable.
The “PJ” style is way better than the one he was comparing. It has a ratchet type retention system & is more comparable to the Wendy.
Just comment about one I got shipped a few days ago. I just need to see the real deal to know where the weak points are
I wear a bump helmet when I play ice hockey. First, I put my helmet on. Then, I "bump" anyone who gets in my way!
The retention system on the Team Wendy is awesome, this lid is really comfortable to wear.
It's actually amazing just how effective the harness system, especially the tightening feature, has been for headwear. Completely game changing tbh. Changing from the mk VI to the VII was just so much more comfortable and don't get me started on how bad the old helmets were when you went prone, forever slipping forward. Did not like, often just ended up wearing a peaked beanie hat underneath my old mk VI just so it didn't slip forward... And because user comfort was definitely not considered with the old helmets.
If I remember correctly, the suspension for the M1 steel pot helmet was based off that used in an old football helmet. Even more insane is the fact that the M1938 tanker helmet is essentially a football helmet with extra pieces for military use. So if it's effective for one purpose, you can definitely use it for many others too
I have a Emerson helmet and i actually hate how small it fits me.
If you are in the market for an inexpensive bump helmet, just get a FMA or a TMC, those brands actually give you a solid NVG mount, proper sponges and suspension system and are not 2mm thinn, they actually go thick
The original OPS CORE BUMP has only a 2,5mm shell. The FMA/TMC bump has a 2,5mm shell too.
But they have replica helmets of the ballistic ones. This replicas has 5mm. But no ventilation holes.
I think the current knockoff's are decent. Upgrade the pads, harness, cover and rails because they will all fit. If you want to. It's a bump helmet. I bought one that's an large airframe, it's made of polymer and fiberglass. I sanded it down and painted it black. Then i took out the cheap parts and replaced them with crye and opscore parts, except for the harness. i thought the harness and chin strap was comfortable. It's not ballistic, but a ventilated sturdy bump. I'd say it's an above average build. Unfortunately the company went out of business because no one knew about it. At least i got mine.
someone never skips arm day! good video brother
If I may add to this.. with the helmets that move around a lot, a little adhesive and some cloth covered foam inserts can dramatically help. That's why ach's differ in size only with foam inserts, the helmets are all the same size... The padding changes
Been like 20 years since i left the mil. The kit these days is sooo special. About time!
A bump helmet is a safety helmet when you are not being shot at. Period!
Drink whenever he says rockin
I chose the Team Wendy EXFIL LTP bump 3.0 in coyote brown. Outstanding quality in my opinion. Some say that they are expensive but I would rather pay more than have an head injury.
Comparing a 50 USD helmet to a minimum of 600 USD helmet is kind of like comparing a slingshot to a Sako TRG-42 :P
But yeah. A good helmet is an absolute necessary for anything.
I've got a great MBT helmet, but I'd need to purchase a new one with the chin protection.
In the FDF the helmet didn't fit me at all. It was horrible. When firing prone I had to use my left hand to keep the helmet up from coming down on my eyes (and I've got glasses). When marching, I had everything in the shortest and minimum and I still could move the helmet on to the back of my head like a Stetson :D
It was hilarious, but if I'd have to go to combat, I'd get rid of the helmet in a heart beat.
That Wendy helmet looks absolutely brilliant, and surely is great worth.
Bit late to the party but the FMA EXF BUMP around £30 is pretty much a team wendy clone. looks like it went the 2.0 rail route and seems to have a similar harness system style too. Pretty cool just how cheap you can make something and at least look like the big boy stuff
The most important thing is funkshinaldibly .....I mean how can ya funkshin without it
Good video brother. You filming in the barracks ?. Lmao
Love the variety of the content on here. Keep it up !!!!!!!
One negative thing about team wendy boa rotation system is that it won't fit on people who have weak chins because you can tell the front chin strap is longer and the lower chin strap is now rubbing against the back of the throat hitting the apple and believe me it really hurts when I look down or try to move left to right. You have a chin that is longer and narrow which make it for you to move freely without hitting your apple throat. Dam if only my parents would understand what the heck is a weak chin.
‘Iraq’…HAS SEALS..!? Great presentation on the differences..
Spend the extra $$$ I spent $160 on two cheapos. The shroud broke on one, and the other one just sucks. My TW is perfect. I trust and gives you a warm and fuzzy knowing your gear will work.
By absolutely no means is this a dig at you or an accusation but do you take steroids because your arms are giant😂
No offense lol, but hell nah
Combat Arms Channel that’s just much more impressive😂 respect man😂
You can tell it's natural.... look at his legs... rood heads are all neck arms but with baby legs
I got a HHV level 3 helmet, and a cheap Amazon copy to run & gun.
A bump helmet is a bump helmet.
god damn this man has so much bicep muscle i think i should retire from working out
I love my OpsCore bump. Retention system is comfortable af imho. I mainly use it for skydiving now. The nods mount can take a GoPro on the front and it’s so much lighter lol. I had to specifically search for a “pocket system” that uses bungee cord under the cover so I can utilize an audible altimeter. Has served me well for 8 years now!
Been running a 20$ lancer tactical helmet for 3 years now and it hasn’t failed me yet
Great presentation. I bought a Lancer Tactical FAST style helmet, just to get me through to get an HHV. (Team Wendy’s politics pushed me away)
I do have to say, that the Lancer Tactical is the polar opposite of the cheap helmet you reviewed. Wendy-style retention system - though obviously not as robust.
Hard hats have been using them for years and it’s included with the Lancer.
It also has removable interior with very comfortable foam/velcro pad inserts. I added an Ido Gear FAST helmet cover (included counter weight pouch).
It also includes an aluminum NV mount. Solid lockup, no play. Also has a leather lined jump-style chin strap. Also, Arc Rail pic mount (plastic, but holds just fine) and some Arc camera mount, I don’t quite get. I hooked my Streamlight to the pic-rail and it’s solid.
Once I got everything adjusted, I was able to go out 7 hours with no fatigue.
Some ‘on the fly adjustments’ but they were intuitive and easy.
I wasn’t expecting much when I ordered it, but I must say, in all honesty, I was and am pleasantly surprised.
Perhaps it’s Airsoft, well thought. My only complaint is the chinstrap buckle snags easily (beard) and takes a bit of leverage to release.
Other than that - very happy with the Lancer and less in a rush to get the HHV.
I got a 70 dollar bump helmet for airsoft milsim, its been going for 3 years and its super comfy
i have a good experience with the Emerson helmet i have been using it for a long time and one day i was going back to the aquarium which was where i worked and i caught the tire of my bike between the pavement and the asphalt and i flew straight from the on the ground if it wasn't for the helmet I would have a broken nose or even a head trauma but I just cut a little and the nose and the helmet only had a few spiders the really difficult thing was that even the fish in the aquarium saw me breaking my face on the sidewalk
I got a knock off Team Wendy Exfil with all the same features. Very comfy and sturdy(I dropped it on a rock from 3 Meters). So for Airsoft it's totally fine and I just spend 50 bucks instead of 300.
That BOA is awesome. So far Ive only seen it on boots. Really great idea.
yeah, it's awesome for footwear too
If you've got 4000-10,000 to spend on night vision I'm sure a ballistic helmet wouldn't be much of a stretch.
Bump helmets are just nice for some light weight mounting. Especially for maritime operations or recce stuff
I mean bump helmets are MUCH lighter....
I would never use that helmet (emerson) for milsims, at least not when rolling with my PVS-14 WP nods
haha that would be like cerakoting a hipoint
@@CombatArmsChannel what a great analogy for polishing a turd 🤣🤣
Cool comparison, I will note only one issue and that is you chose a more lower-end Emerson helmet, as there are ones out there with more velcro and that team-wendy Esque retention system. Some even have built-in visors
Getting ready to buy some ballistic helmets Thx for the vid, very informative .
I'd just pay for a nice knockoff instead of buying an expensive one that ain't even ballistic.
Afgan helmet is the gray one tho
Dude, we were beginning to love you and have you as an honourable Brit, then you said the dreaded word, Ah-lu-min-UM .. It's Ah-lu-min-EE-um dammit :P
@Sicsemperevello Mortemtyrannis Yeah if you spell it wrong, you will say it wrong ;) - AluminIum :P - You missed out the letter I
@Sicsemperevello Mortemtyrannis Like I say, if you spell a word incorrectly, it's no wonder you pronounce it incorrectly :P
This coming from someone who drives on the wrong side of the road.
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@SEAL CYCLE Oh silly me, I forgot that you cannot spell a few words correctly so how the devil are you going to pronounce them correctly ? If your two eyes cannot see the two I's in the correct spelling of the word, I wonder what you would make of lithium, sodium, potassium :P (Oh and I am with you on
Shakespeare)
Most X-Gen know you either go without, make your own or wait a decade or so for stuff to get purchase. That is because during 1990 we had military downsizing. Another youtube channel goes to through the history of bump helmets from a military veterans. Some of the material today for the "cheap" stuff was not so inexpensive back then. I think the next big thing is the fabric hoods some R&D have integrated N95 mask filters...Before it was 100 percent cotton, fireproof fiberglass, NOMEX and etc... What not skull and cross bone jaw?
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If you don’t expect to get shot in the head and survive(got buddy to medi evac you out of the X), a lighter helmet works
I do need a Kevlar to complete my kit....
Team Wendy sounds like a fast food place
But atleast they make good helmets
Thanks for the tips
Keep up the good videos
Love that this is in the barracks lol
Lmao 10th Mountain division that might be my old room!!!
They say it can't be done.....they say it comprises the helmet which has been debunked but I took an ach mich and modded it into a fast helmet. The edges I cut were clean and immediately sealed and reformed nicely to integrate into the uncut edges.
Installed ops core rails
Wilcox nvg shroud
Fast helmet cover
HL-1 surefire IR strobe on LS
Surefire light on RS
I did go with a less expensive combat memory foam pad inserts similar to team wendy but a lot less $...they work fantastic
A dial suspension system.
And a notoros nvg mount for a psv 14.
And a battery/counterweight compartment for the back
I wish I could post pics because it turned out Hella sick and has passed the critic tests of airborne rangers I have trained with.
Bought the un issued helmet for 5 bucks at a flea market.
I know I'm late but congratulations on 100,000 only going to get bigger brother keep it going and once again thank you for my kids freedom and ur sacrifice for us all much love
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I like grey tactical helmet army or swat whatever its so awesome
Gotta get me one of those shirts!
call me a dinosoar but ill stick to my M1 steel helmet w/fiberglass shell insert and chinstrap.my trusty steel pot has faithfully served me well,used held over a fire to boil water to shave or make up some joe on cold mornings.kept me afloat using it bailing water out of a rubber boat off korea .can any of these new helmets make that distinction
Wouldn't the fire make the steel brittle or whatever it is? I heard stories not to do that to a steel pot
Thanks bro for the video like how you told all about the differences thanks
U should react on the Thai marine recon training
Put my old 8 power Nikon buckmaster scope on my KJW green gas airsoft sniper. Best of both worlds, airsoft is just fun as fuck and I would never want to spend what I do for real firearms, so the old expensive parts get a second life on airsoft. As well anyone hunting in medium to short distance the buckmaster series are great, would recomend.
Is there a helmet that is a happy medium between el cheapo and $400 SF gear?
Team Wendy bump helmet is actually the military bump helmet he used in the video, its about $300 on their site. Under that you find chinese made knock off ballistic helmets that will definitely not reliably stop rounds, then below that are the airsoft helmets. There are some sites selling true Ops-Core bump helmets for about 250.
If you are looking for good ballistic helmets under 400, then Militech has some good helmets, they are about 250 and are actually true IIIA and the BFD is actually livable. Usually sold out or almost sold out though. They are pretty much the same as Ops-Core helmets so you use the same accessories.
If you dislike high-cut helmets then MICH helmets are relatively cheap.
Ones repro'd TMC, get those. I got myself a Crye Airframe replica and it's thick and heavy almost as heavy as a ballistic, not ballistic though so if you want ballistic go for Militech helmets, ballistic and they're usually from $100-300
Well, fma helmets are much better replicas, they are good looking and still being just for airsoft players 👌🏼
What about PTS MTEK FLUX replica with Spartan PVG 18 replica? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you now I will buy a team wendy
Am I really gonna need a bulletproof helmet for a plastic bb tho
You can get a bump which is probably more practical
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Sad that our military seems to use the old cheap knockoffs like the one ordered online. :(
Do you have any proof?
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From Lt Col Harold M Cabunoc of (Inf) PA himself.
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So.. no actual shooting tests? Got it.
Do you think an "good" Airsoft helmet is a good training helmet to save up a few months for a ballistic helmet?
Buy FMA Exfil. You will be sooo pleased that you will want an expensive TW one.
from an airsoft point of view I only have one question and that is with the Emerson fast helmet shown in this video, if its possible to swap the existing helmet bike strap for the x nape I already have?
So just get a hockey helmet
Using the Ops-Core Fast myself I'm curious which one you prefer. I'm guessing the Wendy but if so, why?
I like the retention system a lot better, but they both feel solid. Mainly just comfort and looks
For me team wendy all the way, but they have some controversies *cough Hillary cough*.
Ops core is good aswell.
yeah.... but neither helmets shown are ballistic, therefore neither are more effective in a Military / Combat situation
Soldiers have used non-ballistic helmets for years. SEALs and SF guys have used skateboard helmets in the past. There are threats in a combat environment other than a bullet. Comfort and lighter weight allows a more maneuverable soldier versus a heavy Kevlar helmet, which generally protects you from pistol rounds and fragments more than anything (some cases of rifle rounds bouncing off Kevlar helmets happen yes). Also the type of helmet depends on the application or mission. You might be placed in a purely recce-type role where you need your Comms / ear pro and night vision for an extended period of time versus having the protection.
At no point in this video, does he shoot the helmets.
You can get a ballistic helmet for the same price.
A questionable one I would think haha
How did you attach the walkers to the exfil 3.0 rail?
Team Wendy Peltor Adapters. Just slide the metal wires into the plastic parts on the Walkers
Me...who uses my 20 year old hockey helmet...
just tape an IR square on the top lol
Out of all the repro helmets you can legit buy better ones from Idogear or TMC with pads and retention system used on a ballistic helmet and have the closest comfort to a real ballistic helmet for nearly $80 and you chose to buy the shitty $10 dollar ones lol.
Maybe at the time of purchase he hasn’t heard of either of them or maybe he just wanted to get a cheap one since he already have the team Wendy exfil.
Skaters and cave divers cavers use these type helmet 20 years ago
Those guns 💪
There are better Cheap bump helmets that have identical fit systems like the Team Wendy.
It would be nice to get your opinion on the FMA replica of the Team Wendy EXFIL, but only because I just got one for the sole purpose of using NODS. I don’t think I’ll bang my head in the woods or fields knocking over rabbits or rats in the yard ?
Will Emerson work as a electric scooter helmet?
So the grey helmet fit all sizes?
Whilst I apreciate the design.. I fail to see how lack of side protection would be justified if you were in a stand up war.. dismounted and trying to hold a position vs someone with a few thousand artillery pieces..... Yes I know it has been a while since ww1 and even in ww2 this was only in major engagements but that's the sort of thing that happens... even my grandads brodie helmet provides better neck protection whilst lying prone...
It definitely is a trade off. The reasoning behind the lighter side protection is that these helmets are designed to be used with over the ear hearing protection and/or communication headset devices. I wouldn't issue these high cut helmets for every front line infantryman prone to get hit by artillery fire every so often, but I definitely see their use in special operations etc. The trade off makes sense, because the higher cut allows the operator wear comms devices more comfortably for longer periods of time, thus decreasing fatigue even if by a little. Having to wear ear pro with a traditional kevlar helmet for hours, I can definitely say it starts to take its toll after some time. It starts aching around your head and eventually even your neck, taking your focus ever so slightly away from the task at hand. In some cases survivability is not a direct, but an indirect consequence like that.
Old military helmets have their problems too. Because of problems Finnish light infantry didn't use helmets at all when I was conscript. That is even when Finland and Russia are nearly only European countries which still emphasise the importance of artillery.
Wow...that's scary
Can I use it for cycling?
Would the budget friendly bump helmet be good for security guards? Who don't need ballistic. But just head protection from rocks and bottles. Just curious. Thank you.
I mean a budget friendly bump would indeed do what it says it will do (as long as you stay away from those that claim to be bumps but are really not) but ultimately you really need to be the one to choose which is right for you. More expensive =maybe more comfortable, you can always trust it and budget = maybe it is comfortable, maybe there won’t be hotspots. If you are not gonna mount anything to the budget bump (in the video )then it’s good. Hope this helps
I feel like the TW bump is just a cheap exfil lol jk.
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if you spend around 60-70 on an airsoft helmet you can get an suspension sytem close to that of an opscore maritime
A lot of his complaints on the airsoft helmet just depends on what helmet you buy
Wish he used a pts flux instead
Will the Emerson helmet be ok for rocks and bottles? For someone who does security. And with riots going on. Would you reccomend the Emerson helmet. If someone didn't want to wear a bullet proof helmet.
Yeah i bet it could withstand that.
@@williamsnekspeare3090 Thank you for your reply.
Ballistic > Bump. If you want to mount nvgs wear a harness
I had trainers with that tightened system in late 80's maybe 90's. .... may have been jordans
Where you get it off from?
wait are you in the Marine Corps, or the Army, or Other, because I have a few questions
Please react to battle of yultong(korean war) Philippines military(PEFTOK)
Bro, I'm not trying to do back flips threw a firefight while juggling, I just wanna stargaze and casually walk threw my property...I think a $60 helmet will do.
Can someone answer me are helmet have sizes like x,xl,s.
Yes depending on which company you go with they have different adjustable size