You're right: there's not a big difference between AV1 and VVC, though VVC is ever so slightly ahead. I also find that, at default settings, it is a bit sharper. Concerning the low bitrate, _Tears of Steel_ compresses too easily, unfortunately. But even with other material, these newer codecs produce good quality at surprisingly low bitrates. Depending on the video, one might be able to push it lower than 400 kbps. Older codecs, like HEVC, are left in the dust. I could give it a try if there's interest.
@@GeoffreyAngapa I've been casually into video encoding since the DVDripping/divx/virtualdub/avisynth days, but I've been a bit out of the loop until 2 years ago or so. Just recently I assumed that good looking 720p AV1 @ 1Mbits was doable but pushing the limits. Now I see 1080p AV1 @ less than 0,5 Mbits that looks pretty decent to me on my old 47" 1080p plasma at 3m distance! Impressive! What would interest me is how low AV1 (aomenc) and VVC can go for "normal/average movie footage" in 1024x576p (basically anamorphic PAL DVD). That is IMHO a resolution that still looks acceptable while it should keep the bitrate very low for mass storage or streaming over bad cellular networks or metered connections with just a couple GB per months. Combined with (x)HE AAC or Opus @ 32 kbits or so should be very interesting! If you have the time, I'd appreciate it. Come to think of it, I'm just not sure if lowering the resolution might give diminishing returns with the newer codecs, due to the size of macroblocs or whatever.
@@GeoffreyAngapa I swear I just posted something 2 minutes ago. Now it's gone! In case you also don't see it, reply to this, so I get a notification and can try again. Thanks!
@@allesdurchprobiert Sorry about that! RUclips's comment system is capricious. Sometimes, they just vanish. When I'm at the computer tomorrow, I'll check if it's being held. Edit: Actually, I see your earlier comment now, when I loaded through the notification. Thanks!
Looks indistinguishable to me. But it looks way too good for just 400kbps! 😮
You're right: there's not a big difference between AV1 and VVC, though VVC is ever so slightly ahead. I also find that, at default settings, it is a bit sharper. Concerning the low bitrate, _Tears of Steel_ compresses too easily, unfortunately. But even with other material, these newer codecs produce good quality at surprisingly low bitrates. Depending on the video, one might be able to push it lower than 400 kbps. Older codecs, like HEVC, are left in the dust. I could give it a try if there's interest.
@@GeoffreyAngapa I've been casually into video encoding since the DVDripping/divx/virtualdub/avisynth days, but I've been a bit out of the loop until 2 years ago or so.
Just recently I assumed that good looking 720p AV1 @ 1Mbits was doable but pushing the limits. Now I see 1080p AV1 @ less than 0,5 Mbits that looks pretty decent to me on my old 47" 1080p plasma at 3m distance! Impressive!
What would interest me is how low AV1 (aomenc) and VVC can go for "normal/average movie footage" in 1024x576p (basically anamorphic PAL DVD). That is IMHO a resolution that still looks acceptable while it should keep the bitrate very low for mass storage or streaming over bad cellular networks or metered connections with just a couple GB per months.
Combined with (x)HE AAC or Opus @ 32 kbits or so should be very interesting!
If you have the time, I'd appreciate it.
Come to think of it, I'm just not sure if lowering the resolution might give diminishing returns with the newer codecs, due to the size of macroblocs or whatever.
@@GeoffreyAngapa I swear I just posted something 2 minutes ago. Now it's gone!
In case you also don't see it, reply to this, so I get a notification and can try again. Thanks!
@@allesdurchprobiert Sorry about that! RUclips's comment system is capricious. Sometimes, they just vanish. When I'm at the computer tomorrow, I'll check if it's being held.
Edit: Actually, I see your earlier comment now, when I loaded through the notification. Thanks!
@@GeoffreyAngapacool 👍
I Still can't see it. This isn't the first time this happened. Sometimes the comment reappears hours later.
VVC looks better, less noisy and blocky
Yes, VVC is slightly ahead and a touch sharper, I often find.