DRAFT HORSE TRAINING... Things don't always go smoothly!! & NEW COLLARS
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2023
- Today we are doing more draft horse training with Baron, our Suffolk Punch Stallion, and things don't always go smoothly!! Baron is doing a great job driving, but he is having a harder time getting hitched up!! I also wanted to show you some new collars we got for a few of the horses, and how to fit them to the horse.
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I thoroughly work in saddle soap good and deep into my new leather. Then use a good old fashioned leather dressing. Let that dry, then soak the leather in water till very pliable. After a good soak, I fit the tack to the horse and go to work. After work, I re-soap and re-dress the leather. I repeat as needed for fitment.
Bills like "nooooo Dad, not the new collar again!"🤣
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I think Baron is getting spoiled he does not want to pull the cart alone and as soon as you unhitch him from he wants back in the stable. I think I would leave him tied up out side for a half hour or so just to let him know that just because he is unhitched he does go directly to the barn.
Baron is getting so big does fine pulling the carrt go baron
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Old Barney Fife phrase... nip it in the bud. Lol..Andy griffith..Griffith.. have a GREAT DAY
Haha, good old Barney!
Thank you for the explanations about the new collar and harness and adjusting it all.
Boy, Baron has a lot of get up and go!!!
I know nothing about all this but didn’t know if you could put the cart/shaves parallel with the truck body that you tie him to. That way you would have a wall, and then move him over to step over the shaves. And have him just stand there. Then slowly as time progresses, and Baron gains confidence; start moving the cart/shaves away from the “wall.”
Of course I understand that I’ve no idea how wide the cart is in comparison to the truck body; but he is used to the walls of his stall, and that wall might help you some-it may not too! IDK!!!
Baron is a beautiful Stallion. And your patience with him is wonderful to behold!
God Bless
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Bill cracks me up! It's like, you got to be kidding!! Baron , I don't believe, will be as tall as Bill, but he may get stouter than Bill! Baron looks sharp! thanks for showing us the hard part!! don't know anything! You'll figure it out! You're going to win!!
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I think Baron’s doing exceptionally well with his baby brain. Practice and baby steps will prevail.
Heck yeah bill is great. He looks good with his mane trimmed down too
I see what you mean about him not hitching well. I appreciate your patience.
Just a baby
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I'm right there with ya on warming the bit. I used to unzip my coat and get as close to sticking in my armpit as I could, depending on the bridle. Its easy with a saddle horse bridle, not so much with blinders. If the blinders are floppy enough, you can fold the bridle closed and still get the bit in there.
My husband's uncle actually rode for Winston Churchill.
You know, driving in this low light at this time of year, it might be worth it to get some reflective material and/or a bicycle light on that rig. It may be just the camera, but you are really hard to see along that tree line. I know you have a lot of Amish in the area, and folks are probably used to watching for horses, but still. A cheap battery powered bike light would make you much more visible. I used to wear one when I walked on the road at night, and it would really stop traffic. Those reflective stickers they put on semi trailers down the sides are really good too.
He is getting really good at crossing his feet when he turns, without tripping himself. That is difficult for any horse. He is really smart. He's doing really great at backing too. I always hooked a cart that way, but my carts were a fair bit lighter. Most of the ones I've used were wooden with wooden wheels, one was metal with motorcycle wheels. Pretty much all of them could be pulled with one hand.
For the uninitiated, I always hitched and unhitched in the same order too. The most basic, stripped-down racing harnesses sometimes only have shaft tugs. With a light enough vehicle, the horse can still pull, stop, and turn with nothing but shaft tugs and a tight false girth figure-eighted around those tugs. As long as those are still hooked, the horse still has control of the cart. This is crucially important if something goes wrong and the horse gets away from you. Take away the ability to pull first, it is least needed. Take away the holdbacks next, you don't want a horse dragging a cart by a holdback, particularly if there is a shaft dragging on the ground. Take away the shaft tugs last.
Jim, I don't think Baron is being belligerent. He has tried so hard to figure things out and be obedient right from the beginning and he is clearly a very smart youngster. That said, he does seem to blow a circuit breaker when there is too much input at once. My best guess about what is going on is that he has gotten used to stepping over one pole with Kenny there to show him where to stand. Give him two poles and no Kenny and he has no clue what you want. He doesn't know whether he is supposed to step over both and get on the left side, where he is used to being, or stay on the right side, where Kenny usually is. The middle isn't even occuring to him. Even though you are putting him in the middle and working him there, he isn't getting the concept of stepping into the middle. One option might be to take Kenny along and tie him on the right side, to keep Baron from stepping back and forth. That eliminates one of the three possibilities, and once you make it clear that left isn't where you want him either, then middle might occur to him. Once he's hitched, you could put Kenny back in the barn, or let him stand there until you come back, if he isn't bad about standing alone. You could also maybe put a gate, or a gate with a piece of plywood on it to keep the shafts from getting hung in it, on one side of the shafts so he can't just step through. Using a corner of the barn as a place to hitch might be another option. A stack of hay bales would probably work. Something needs to be there to keep him from just swinging from one side to the other and back.
Also, it doesn't seem like Baron is real comfortable with having that many poles under foot on the ground where he can't see them. It might not be possible for you to do this, as Baron is a pretty big colt, but when I started mine I always started them in an open bridle. I didn't want to have a situation happen in the future where a bridle broke or came off, and the horse saw the cart behind them for the first time. Breaking them in an open bridle means they can see all that stuff on the ground, and it is easier to figure out where to put their feet. But also, he is going to need to be comfortable with poles on the ground in the woods. Maybe it might help to take him out in the woods in a halter or open bridle, and let him practice getting through downed saplings, etc. Many people use cavaletti poles for something like this with a saddle horse or driving horse, but that is only because they have the money to buy such a thing. Getting out in the woods would serve the purpose.
Thanks for sharing, yes, he's probably just trying to figure things out, which he will with time.
Good idea with the open bridle. I took a driving horse and started riding him, and it was a whole new world without the blinders!
good reading...we noticed in other videos that Whoa didn't work as well as No with Barron ,,,,
@@sueupham2519 I think Jim is teaching all the horses to understand that "no" means the job is done, and on this whoa, don't stand ready to start again. No word works on any horse until you take the time and repetition to teach it to him.
Here's what I would do if he was a saddle horse, as that has been what I have been working with over the years. I'd try to isolate the reason for Baron being antsy at the shafts. Is it the shafts themselves or the fact that he's away from the other horses. First I'd tie another horse next to the shafts so that Baron has some company when being hitched. If that worked I'd keep the other horse in place until such time as Baron gets more comfortable with the hitching process. If it seems to be the shafts themselves that are the issue, I would treat the problem the same as I would with a horse that doesn't want to cross water, a bridge or get in a trailer. I'd drive or lead him back and forth over them, maybe pausing when he had his front feet in the right place and again when his rear feet are in place, maybe even backing him out. I'm not even sure that when he was properly positioned for the first time or two, I would even try to lift he shafts up into place. My goal would be to make standing between the shafts the most comfortable place he could be. But you're an old horseman from way back (and a good one), you'll figure it out.
Thanks for the suggestion
@@WorkingHorsesWithJim You're welcome. RUclips is full of armchair quarterbacks, (although there are some very good observations in the comments of this video) and I don't want to come across as one. The reason I suggested plan A is because Baron stands pretty well when being hitched as part of a team.
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I tell you, that Baron is getting to be a big boy!❤ I would never have guessed he's longer body length than Billy Boy! Oh how beautiful he is! I dearly love how he has kind of slanted eyes, just beautiful🥰 Bless his heart, I couldn't help but feel sorry for him. I see that he's really trying to do right. It isn't that he's just being stubborn. I think he just gets confused and hasn't quite "got it" yet on hitching, etc. I'm SO proud of how gently you work with him instead of how some people might get ill with him. And you also are so good to know when enough is enough rather than letting him get worried. Thank you for always being so kind and gentle with all of your horses.👌 On a different note, I've heard NY and New England areas would be getting ice and then heavy snow. Hope you guys all fair well in the coming winter storm. Down south, we are getting heavy rain, hail, strong wind, and tornadoes with storms moving across the lower 48 today. You all stay safe and have a great weekend!!
Yes, snow is in the forecast for tomorrow. We'd rather have that than tornadoes! Stay safe!
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Suffolks have a different conformation to Belgians thats why the harness sits differently. Does a brand new collar chafe the horse at all until it settles to shape. ?
My grandad used to prop the shafts up on oil drums and back his horses in .
Hope people are understanding how dangerous working these strong horses could be and how repetition, patience are the only way to get the good working horses Jim has👍
Yes, Bill is a very good sport!
Counter weight the back of the buggy so it just stands on it own. Walk him in for now until he gets really comfortable with those shafts. Then work some more on walking in with them down. I'm like you, the trouble will get worse if you push it.
You would think that Baron has some poodle in him. 😀
Wow! Baron has a beautiful stride. Prancing 😃
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I have an idea how you could go about teaching Baron to walk into the shackles.
Place the cart along the side of the trailer so Baron can't go over on that side. Turn the cart in different directions so that he learns to enter from both sides. When he gets the hang of it, angle the cart out more and more so that it will eventually be at an angle to the trailer.
It is so exciting to follow Barons training and I am convinced he's gonna be a wonderful working horse.
He is doing really well🙌🏼, impressed how he is progressing👏He understands your words! Because I don’t hitch my boy up that much, he too steps outside or over the sheaves. He is getting better. Right now I have my cutter parked parellel to the fence, I walk him over the sheaves and position him so he backs in between them so If he steps outside the sheaves, I take him out and get him to do a few quick circles. He is realizing it is better to stand. He doesn’t like doing circles! Once he is standing, I tie him to the post. You might have more control over maneuvering him and lifting the sheaves by backing him in. I had to slow it right down. Slow,short, baby steps backwards. All the best. Looking forward to seeing his progression. Good job!🙌🏼👍🏼🤠🐴🇨🇦
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That is an excellent idea, Maria! 👍
The snow starts making that crunchy sound at 5 degrees Fahrenheit. This might be a reason why his ears were facing backward and stress. Also, frost on the face hair is a learning experience.
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I feel like Bill and Lady were giving Jim some "side eye" today, lol!
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Thank you Jim and Brenda. That new leather is beautiful . I worked at Beardmore tannery at Acton Ontario for ten years. Bill is such a sweet horse.❤❤❤Barron is so big I forget that he is just a baby.
Baron is going really well
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He does so much better with the second horse to sidel up to, maybe gives him confidence.
Awesome You have such patience with these animals and it's awesome to watch.
Baron looks sharp in his harness. I’ve noticed he chews on his bit and wondered if he will get to a point where he doesn’t do that.
Yes, a lot of colt do that until they get used to things
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Bill is not only cute and a good sport, he's a saint! Such a patient gentleman.
I had to chuckle at Baron's trouble hitching up! He seemed to be trying so hard but not quite getting what Jim wanted. I guess that since he's only three there's still a bit of baby brain going on there, but I'm sure he'll catch on pretty quick! Jim seems to be a gentle and patient trainer, and I love how he warmed the bit in his hand before putting it in his mouth. That's just a kind thing to do on such a cold day.
What does the #450 at the end of the title of the video?
Had anything happened to hurt him before he came to you
You took the words right out of my comment!!! Bill is adorable and Baron so stunning
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@@dr.christopherjohnson5396 They are from upper New York state, near the St. Lawrence, not far from Canada, where it can get pretty cold, also getting more than their fair share of rain and snow. But they don't let it slow them down. They constantly amaze me.
Bill's being a very good sport with the new collar. Then he took one step back and looked behind him. As if he thought maybe I'll just go on out after all that yanking. Of course he stayed.
Dang, y'all!! Serious weather. It's cold, Jim! To everyone out there having it tough because of the weather and storms, I'm saying a little prayer for you who ever you are. To those cozy at home but having duties outside may you be well. Us in Central Texas had our second even longer power outage a couple weeks ago from ice storms. 2021 x 2. Twice in two years. That's not compared with what so many have suffered with tornadoes and floods. I sincerely hope everyone gets the help they need or the joy of helping others. These videos are just about the best thing I've ever enjoyed on RUclips. They calm me down when I'm having a rough day.
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With the new collars (and maybe the old ones too), could you soak them in a leather conditioner or at least rub a leather conditioner on them? I am thinking back to my days of playing baseball and softball. When I got a new glove (and even the old ones), I would soak/rub a special leather conditioner on the gloves to soften and protect them. I would also put a baseball or softball in the glove, and tie it up to help the glove form to the baseball or softball.
One of your best training videos!! Watching you train (teach) Baron how to step into and stay in between the shafts is a masterpiece!
You never raised your voice, never showed frustration and when nothing worked you stopped. Your comment was “I’ll figure this out and try again”. That my friends is a master teacher at work. What a joy to watch.
My inexperienced take was that Baron was trying to do right, but didn't understand yet what Jim wanted. That to me is better than being intentionally willful to disobey. Time and your good patience will do it.
I thought the same thing but I am inexperienced too.
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what patience!!
Baron is coming along really nicely and it is fun to watch you work with him. I bought my first horse at age 57 and needed him to stand absolutely still while I mounted. Of course he did exactly what Baron was doing, stepping away. A trainer helped me solve that in only a couple of lessons. I would get up on the mounting block and Danny would move away so the trainer had me get off the block, hold the reins in my left hand and push Danny away from me, the same direction that he had stepped away. I would push him in a circle around a few times, then line him up at the mounting block. If he stepped away, I would repeat. Pretty soon (3 or 4 times) he got the idea. It is less work to stand than to step away. In your case you would unclip him from the trailer and push him far enough away from the trailer so you can circle without hitting the cart or trailer. If Brenda was helping you could hitch away from the trailer so you had more room to circle him.
The same trick worked with my next horse, a 7 year old Arab. Baron is smart, he will pick it up quickly.
Thanks for sharing your adventures on your farm!
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Yessss! Thank you! Real-life, fully detailed information about the "nuts and bolts" of getting your horse well-fitted with harness; I don't see anyone else doing this on RUclips in such a real-time, practical way, and for wanna-be's like me, this is absolutely vital info. I'm going to watch this one several times for sure!
If you can find a copy of The Draft Horse Primer, by Maurice Telleen, that is a big help.
me too Julia,we loved it..
The hands-on details have been so important for us too..everything from harnessing to the different hitches!
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Wow it's cold there and here I think our winters cold In the 70s lol
Yes Bill is cute and patient
Have to agree not fun for Jim but I’m sure he has had to deal with before! Poor Baron was just confused, you could tell he wanted to do something he just wasn’t sure what it was! Fantastic patience was the name of the game, well done Jim! ( and Baron too!)
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Barron is going to graduate with flying colors. 🙂❤✌
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Barron looks very sharp!!
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Bill and Kenny are such good sports and have adjusted amazingly well to Buck's passing. And both quite handsome!
Hi Jim Brenda, Another great video on the farm today. Jim, Brenda, great lesson on Collars, I love learning anything new to do with horses. Baron did great driving, and Jim you teaching Baron, in time the hitching will come too, i am sure. GOD BLESS, Jim Nova Scotia, Canada. Hi to the ladies.
Hi James, thanks for watching.
Great video, I like watching you train Barron. General concept with horse training make the wrong thing difficult for him and make the right choice easier for him. Maybe try taking 2 poles on the ground and having him stand in between those poles. As soon as he tries to move than push him harder and make him work. Give him minutes in between sessions/your asks of him to let him think. He just seems like he's constantly reacting and not thinking...hes 3 so there's that. Alternatively, tie one of the other horses beside him during hitch him. Maybe that woukd calm him down and behave.
Thanks for the suggestion
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-13F is cold in metric too: -25C.
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I could feel the cold just by the sound of the snow crunch! Always enjoy watching your videos.
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Bill is 100% cute and a good sport. Sweet horse for sure. Side note, Jim has patience beyond anything I’ve seen! Your horses are so lucky to be yours. Well done Jim.
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Baron is an absolutely gorgeous guy. Can’t wait to see the foal he and Lady produce. I bet you are so excited to see the baby also! 😊
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Bill is a great sport!
As new teamsters, we are getting a lot of different viewpoints and advice. This channel is one of our most important training resources.
Jim, today's video showed what a master teamster you really are. Your patience and commitment to both expecting Baron to perform but also allowing him space to learn is inspiring to us. Despite the challenges with hitching up, you appear to have had a great driving session with him. This tells me his respect and trust for you is well established and although Baron may be unsure about certain tasks/requests, the challenge/frustration doesn't phase him for later tasks.
It's a testament to both the quality of the horse and the quality of the teamster!
Thanks Jim a lot if good information 👍, you answered a lot of questions
Glad you enjoyed it
Years ago I had a pair of very expensive, large, and stiff logger boots which can be difficult to “break in”. After suffering for a couple of days I took the advice that was given me which was to fill them with warm water and put them on. Like Bill said, it sounded crazy but I did it, it made a big difference. It worked for me. Now I’m retired and no longer where those big heavy boots!
Please forgive me for calling JIM, Bill. 🤦♂️. I know his name I’ve been watching for years. I’m embarrassed.
Yes. Best thing for new leather boots is to take a hot bath in them.
Brenda I love your little snippets. Baron is quite a stinkpot!!! Your patience is wonderful Jim!
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Thank you for showing it all. I appreciate the fact that you never try to sensationalize and always tell it and show it as it is. May God continue to bestow His Favor in all you do.
yes,, amen
Bill is cute and a good sport.
Getting Buck's harness is sort of a promotion.
Baron is getting bigger and stronger by the day. He is regal: his name fits.
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Baron might understand better if you can set up two poles on the ground as if they are shafts and teach him to park in between them without the blinders on. Maybe set some hay hanging in a net for him to munch on once he's parked in the spot properly. Thank you so much for sharing your daily lives of working, teaching and learning. What an amazing journey ❤️
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Jim has the patience of Jobe, and watching wrestle with getting the horse hitched was like déjà vu.
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I'm really glad , for ya'll, to see Baron's training coming along great.
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Amassing at any leveling for the hours of training.
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Excellent advice you need to show the bad with the good to let everyone see the tribulations that occur when training horses 🐴 !!👍🤨
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Baron is doing great for a 3 year old. Maybe just try and hold him by the tie up point once out of the shafts for a couple of minutes. Looks like he's just in a hurry to get back to his buddies.
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I was told by a gentleman at the Tiller International plow days, that the Suffolk Punch pair he was driving, and all that he'd had needed the same size collar as his big Belgians.. Because they are so heavily muscled.
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Jim, your patience with your "rebellious teenager" is amazing!
Looks to me like he just didn't want to be hooked up!
he sure doing amazing 💯💯💥💥💥👍👍🐴🐴🐎🐎🐎🐎🥰🥰🥰
Jim I can't believe how patient you have been with hooking barren up to the cart! That's impressive! As far as him moving when you pick up the lines, why don't you just leave him tied and pick the lines up and stand back there until he holds still. Then walk backup to his head, leave him tied to the lead rope, then walk back and pick up the lines . Do that over and over until he doesn't move when you walk back behind him with the lines.
that's exactly what I did the other day and it worked great
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I was carefull with the collar on a young 3yo and would go upside down and flipping later. Saw the horse had some reserve. Tried presenting it in correct orientation and she was hell yeah ! and slipped in it herself. All horses are different, and if you encourage them to communicate they will tell you what they prefer . I find it very rewarding
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Another great video, Jim and Brenda. Thank you for sharing, and I know you will get it figured out.
Most impressive thing Jim did is remained calm
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I loved your video!! Real life with real life situations! Thanks for showing all of it. We need to see the good along with the bad! Helps learning. This is the first video I’ve watched of yours. Thanks so much!!
Jim and Brenda have made hundreds of videos - all to do with horses in both logging and farming. You have many happy hours ahead.
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We’d get them used to standing square on a raised rectangle box and then build in putting cart behind as they got better at standing there for longer. Kind of like teaching a dog stay. It takes time but might be worth a shot
Thanks for the suggestion
Thank you.
Coming from one of those who have no one to help at all, I have found lots of groundwork and long reining to help in these situations. Set up different sets of parallel poles (I use jump poles or deer posts) around the place and practice on the ground both leading and driving. Teach them the "natural horsemanship" methods of moving their hind end and shoulders individually from side to side...one single step at a time.... I use a dressage whip length whip or stick to begin with if standing in front, or the rope end. Repetition. Groom between poles. If they step out, Correct them every single time.
The other thing to try is the "natural horsemanship" idea of making the behaviour you do not want to be hard work for them and where you want them to be, to be easy. Instead of correcting when he steps out over a shaft unasked for; unclip him, take him out and make him go in circles shifting his hind end away like a turn on the forehand (the western mob call it "disengaging the hind quarters") 6 or so times so he has to work hard, then let him "rest" when he stands quietly between the shafts. He will soon get the idea that is is really hard work when he steps out uninvited and it is much less effort just to stand quietly.
I noted he did a 360 degree turn well both sides, but did not like the extra half circle you asked, and began backing. Interesting it was similar both sides.
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Jim is a very patient man, I’m sorry but I have a foul mouth and I would be going off. It’s obvious that Jim’s way works better. Always watching from Panama City Florida, USA. 🇺🇸. No Snow Just Breeze !
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Baron's coloring is just gorgeous and his lovely gait. Good for the inside of this admirer! Kathy, NW Indiana
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I think Baron is having the normal horse problem of not liking things at his feet, so walking him between poles on the ground could help. He's young, so he still doesn't have full control of his body, and he has to be taught he can safely walk in a narrow space, and lift his feet over small obstacles on the ground. Also, touching his leg that needs to move may help, so he can make the brain connection to "that limb must take action." Finally, maybe take him out in harness, but no bridle or no blinders, so he can see how easily he can walk into the shafts? I felt your frustration but I was still smiling at how hard Baron was trying.
Bill is the goodest boy!
I'm not surprised that Bills collar is rather tight on Baron. The one thing that stood out to me, when Baron first came on the scene, was the size of his neck. Stallions generally have larger necks anyway, but especially, draft horses. Baron did great, once you got him hitched up.
Yes, he has a big neck!
Yea! Bill is a good sport!
Bill is awesome i love him and the nibbling of Jim's glove while he was talking was totally cute. Such a great horse. All the horses even the colts are very well mannered and they do what you ask them to do they stand great and its a credit to the way they were trained. love them all. When is Lady due? it must be soon, i think she will make a great Mum.
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Bill is absolutely adorable. I wish I had one just like him. Love Bill and all the others too.
☘️🇮🇪🇺🇸 I watch that young colt prance and think , as he goes along he’s talking to Buck … “ look what a good boy I am , how am I doing old man? No worries I’ll take good care of #1 & make y’a proud.”
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Another great video. I learn so much from watching , i do not have any one to teach/show me.Thank you both.
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I agree Baron needs some more training but he will get it eventually. He does learn quickly to voice commands and tries hard to please. I hope Baron will get his mane roached before spring (less pulling from collar). Bill is a kind gentleman! Glad Brenda videoed the difficulty Jim had with Baron in the shafts. Just keep at it, it will get better!
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Bill is a good, good boy. He puts up with all of people's foolishness, lo. He is also gorgeous!
Jim and Brenda, u treat your horses with love 💕
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I would make him work hard in circles outside the stable and let him rest at the shakes. Then he learn to like the shakes. When he stands good at the shakes (can take 1 day or a month) you move on to driving and drive hard so he gets alot of endorphins and he will love you for giving him endorphins and he should calm down abit.
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As I have said before, I enjoy the dynamic of you two working together. Jim’s love for horses and working them comes through loud and clear. Keep on sharing the stuff you do.
Jim it looks to me like Baron has gotten sweet on the barn entrance where you take off his lines and bridle and that is contributing to him not wanting to stand after being unhitched from the cart. I would try making the unhitching point at the cart the sweet spot such as waiting for him to get quiet there and take off the lines and bridle in the same spot you unhooked from the cart and then lead him to the barn. If you try that for a while he might stop being sweet on the barn. I had a similar issue with my mares wanting to hurry back to the hitch rail after we were done mowing out in the field. I started unhitching out in the field, took the bridles and lines off, let them graze for a minute, and led them back for a few times and they learned to be sweet on whatever spot I stopped the mower. Just a thought you can try if you want. I always enjoy watching your videos and getting new ideas. Thanks for sharing.
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He's not used to hitching single, he was trying to be slong side another horse is what it looked like to me.
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I know it wasn't funny to Jim, and with all respect to Jim, Baron had me chuckling on this dark and rainy day in Arkansas. It's like watching a naughty child, one knows you shouldn't laugh but sometimes it's hard not to. Praises to Jim's patience!
It’s raining cats and dogs in St. Louis too, I’m going outside to look for kittens!🙋♂️🐈🐈
right on it shows that baron does not want to out in the cold. he would rather be in the barn. cannot say i blame too much although he has to get used to it and do his job.
I noticed right away that Baron does not listen to your commands. I think he needs to learn to stand when commanded. I bought two three year old Arab mares, not handled very much. I did get them to listen to voice commands, especially-Stand. Baron seems to move around where he wants to. Also I think he is confused about the rails, as he is used to being on one side or the other, not in the middle. You have great patience with these beautiful animals. Love your videos.
What part of Ar are you from?
I'm a arky too
Sorry, but had to giggle watching Jim and Baron. Baron has a beautiful deep red color, even with his winter coat. This summer he will be stunning . Thanks for the video
That horse looks so smart in pulling your wagon. So tsylish. 👍🙌
I love to see all the horse's and how patient you are with training them Jim. Bill is so cute and a curator. Baron is still a youngster and he will get what you're training him to do. Thank you Brenda for filming and being there to help Jim with Baron. The two of you are a great team 👏 👏🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎
Good for you that you show us also things which are not going that well. What Baron shows here was exact that what you have to deal with in training my own horse. Jim , I admire you staying calm and not stressing. I think in this we see true 'horsemanship'.
Try backing him in to the Shave
What a lovely thick tail barron has.,and so nice and long. 😊
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Brenda , bill is sweet interactive. After watching you’al for this past year. It’s easy to recognize the horse’s different temperament and personality.
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Jim is so patient in trying to teach Baron and hook him up.
All your Horses look great but I think Baron is a real BEAUTY, love your videos, they teach more than other videos I've seen, be well,
I Love every horse your family owns!!! Jim is doing a GREAT job with Barron's performance.
Love the new collar!
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with your patience and some long days these will soon be only distant memories
Jim is a model of gentle patience and persistence. Some thoughts based on driving my TWH saddle horses to single carts.
Baron seems a bit sensitive to touching things with his hind legs. Maybe some work repeatedly touching those legs from higher up down to hooves until he sighs and stops fussing. I then made a little obstacle course from jump rails, you could use smaller logs. 4 or 5 logs to step over. Box to turn in and step out or back out. Spiral. Ect.
Being a stallion, he has a mind of his own and will persist more than a gelding, lol.
Just tie and let stand, before and after exercise, while harnessed, until relaxes and just stands quietly. A solid tie wall so pawing gains a horse nothing and keeps him safe from hanging a hoof is a thought.
Repeated hitch and unhitch, without going anywhere, until shows patience.
Even take a training shaft and repeatly bring it up and even over his back, touching until he relaxes.
It will help when the weather allows outside time for him, in paddock, pasture, or hard work.
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Great video Jim and Brenda! over all I still think Baron is responding well to voice commands. (ha and gee) etc. I noticed that last video and mentioned it I was surprised how well he picked up on that. but as you showed getting him hitched to a cart etc. still needs some more work and training but I'm sure he will eventually get the idea and like the other horses will learn and it will come together. Thanks again for a great video extremely informative. ECF
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