@@BeingTheHunt Some British people seem to have that problem. It was a bone of contention on QI once as well, and even Fry didn't really seem to be confident. Very weird.
I was thinking we had a problem with Prince having died in 2016, but then remembered Tim’s rule didn’t stick since he went out on that round. I just recently found these videos. So much fun. Me and my two best friends have discussions similar to this often with drinks by the fire pit, just didn’t realize there’s a “real” game to play. I’ve enjoyed you all on Taskmaster. Thanks for sharing these.
Mercedes Lackey is one of my favourite authors, but at this point, every time I see her mention "birds and animals" or "animals and birds" I want to take a sharpie and fix it. So frustrating. I think she writes that at least once per books. Even more frustrating, she literally raises birds. She should KNOW they're animals. Oh, and some people think we're not animals. What are we then? *shakes head*
@@Avistew I had a genuine falling out with my best friend where he wouldn't talk to me for a full week because i said insects are animals. 'Insects aren't animals, insects are insects!' and 'humans aren't animals, animals are animals!' He claimed i was utterly stupid and went into a full rage for even suggesting such a heinous thing, lol. It's lovely how some people only think mammals count as animals ey? Silly.
Around 4:00 when Key mentions beating the UK scrabble champion and there's a long pause while the other two awkwardly take perfectly synchronised sips of their drinks 😭
Bugs and microorganisms are animals too, which is maybe a bit less intuitive at first. Basically anything that eats to live instead of extracting its nutrients from the sun or a thermal vent etc.
@@Jesse__H bugs yes indeedy but microorganisms arent animals, theyre in the class monera. there are four kinds of living thing besides animal: monera, protista, plant, and fungi. if its not one of them, yer its an animal
"It does to be fair to it, it always has", Watson's response to Key claiming that the Alphabet goes up. "I'm not sure if the Alphabet does go up or down", about 5 seconds later from the same Watson.
I've gotten to know Tim Key and Mark Watson through Taskmaster (and seen Mark on QI as well). I absolutely fell in love with them. It makes sense that these 3 are friends. Please never stop working together. (whether it's on this channel or any other way). xxx Fan from the Netherlands :)
So often I've had people come at me, with breathtaking arrogance and certainty, that a birds, fish, bugs etc aren't animals. I think they get confused between the word "mammal" and "animal". Crazy, if Key says it's not an animal then he must accept that he believes it's a plant or a mineral. 😂
They already did years ago as part of the panelshow "It's your round". Panelists on that show would each have to bring their own games to play against the rest of the panel, and Tim Key brought in this game, which was then titled 'no more women'. Bridget Christie won on that occasion by adding the category "no-one else".
The rule was a name can’t rhyme with the name of a footballer that any of the three of them can name, so even though Key was out that rule still applied to him, especially considering the rule was instated after he was out and clearly said “that any of us can name”
Really enjoying these. It sparks a memory, I vaguely remember someone on RUclips called 'Blade376' playing this game, but it was called either 'No More Men' or 'No More Women', must have been about 12 years ago at a guess and this is probably the first time I've thought about it since I watched it haha
This is classic Tim Key anti comedy where he knows he’s wrong but it’s game 3 of the same night so he’s a bit drunk and it’s turned into a Kaufman type bit
I know someone who think spiders, insects, etc. aren't animals. A couple of times, I've had to remind them that if it's alive, moves around, not a bacteria or a plant - then it's an animal.
For my own benefit 1K: Sandi Toksvig NM CONSECUTIVE INITIALS (In the normal direction) 2W: Anthea Turner NM INITIALS THAT CAN BE PLAYED AS A SCRABBLE WORD 3H: Robin Gibb NM ANIMALS AS NAMES (whole, first or second) 4K: Oliver Stone 🚩[VIOLATION: OS - So is a word] (I caught this early - they never specified what order) (Alex challenges but just Os) K OUT 5W: Quentin Letts NM IDENTICAL VOWELS IN BOTH NAMES 6H: Donald Trump (damnit Alex I watch British TV to AVOID this country) NM BLONDS 7W: Pele NM FAMOUS 60S PEOPLE 8H: Stormzy NM NAMES WITH V-Z 9W: Prince NM SURNAMES RHYMING W ENGLISH FOOTBALLER SURNAMES 10H: Mo Salah NM SPORTY TYPES 11W: Marge Simpsons NM INITIALS THAT MATCH PLAYERS 12H: Rachel Gibson NM DRINKING BUDDIES 13W: Rupaul NM U IN NAMES 14H: Dora (The Explorer) NM SINGLE NAMES 15W: Noel Gay 🚩 Name ends in Y W OUT H WINS
Thanks for collating each round. I think that Mark should've been out in round 9 as Prince was born Prince (Rogers) Nelson so would fall foul of indentical vowels in both names.
drumlightable It was, but Mo Salah was also used as an alternative example. To be fair though, they were discussing the popularity of the name last time so I think it’s valid to use the full/original version of it in that case. However for most other contexts I think it’s sensible to use the version of the name that the person is referred to by most often.
2:30 when you coutn down you would write 10 at hte top, when you count up you'd put 1 at the top so thats actually an argument that you do count up to z
5:35 I've watched these early games several times and only this time round did I wonder whether Alex was referring to Tim not knowing what were animals, or whether there's something else in his life that's given rise to questioning what counts as an animal. But all the other times previously I have just assumed it is referring to Tim inexplicably having this bizarre gap in his understanding of the world and Alex keeps coming up against it 😄
I'm doing a rewatch and for some reason only realising this now but.. why does Key have a framed picture of Horne's wife in frame all the time lol 17:27
Was curious about this myself and how they knew each other. I found an article where Horne spoke about how Tim lived with him for several years until he got engaged (well Key's described as being on the floor...), And how it felt like being in a relationship of three. So presumablely they're all very close friends
i know it’s been 3 years, but: A bird is a warm-blooded Vertebrate, in the class Aves, and of the kingdom of Animalia. If that Wasn’t The Fuck Enough: Animals in the biological kingdom of Animalia are multicellular and *eukaryotic* (cells with a nucleus). Animals can move independently with metabolic energy, sexually reproduce with the production of a blastula i.e. producing an embryo that IN SOME WAY develops (egg vs. womb etc), and breathe oxygen. (there are others but it’s unimportant) The Bilateria is a monophyletic/natural group known as a Clade. This group makes up a majority of known animals, and is indicative of a common ancestor and it’s descendants. The Bilateria also have *Bilater* al symmetrical, meaning you can cut it across the sagittal plane and it’ll give you approximately two identical halves. Now, this Bilateria includes the _deuterostomes_ . These sexy beasts form embryonically from anus to mouth. This clade includes 2 phylums, the most important being ye olde Chordate. These bad boys have a circulatory system, are bilaterally symmetric, have 5 distinguishing synapomorphies (thyroid, pharyngeal slits, dorsal hollow nerve chords, post-anal tails, and notochords), and a couple other things i can’t be arsed to type. The important bit is the subphyla Craniata, the rank including Fish, Amphibians, Reptiles, Mammals, and *Birds* . So, not only is a bird an animal, it’s an animal of the animalia kingdom in the most common clade, with some pretty fucking obvious indicators of its status. Summary: Jesus christ Tim, it’s not a mineral for fucks sake.
How do the name rules work with pseudonyms? If someone knew that Stormzy's initials were MO, would that be a successful challenge (because as we know from a previous episode, mo is a word)?
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I’ve never seen anyone be as confident despite being so fundamentally wrong as Key is on birds/animals
Possibly confusing animal with mammal?
A bird ain’t a plant.....
But have you heard about the word? Because the word is a....
@@BeingTheHunt Some British people seem to have that problem. It was a bone of contention on QI once as well, and even Fry didn't really seem to be confident. Very weird.
Fry also said that kangaroos weren't mammals and that lice were arachnids. Zoology is perhaps not his strongest point. :-P
5:52
"Do you think a fish is an animal Timmy?"
"Do fish fly?"
This is perfection. Especially with that confused facial reaction of Alex.
17:26 I love how Key randomly has a picture of him and Horne's wife right next to him. Could not be more perfect
I was thinking we had a problem with Prince having died in 2016, but then remembered Tim’s rule didn’t stick since he went out on that round. I just recently found these videos. So much fun. Me and my two best friends have discussions similar to this often with drinks by the fire pit, just didn’t realize there’s a “real” game to play. I’ve enjoyed you all on Taskmaster. Thanks for sharing these.
"No more consecutive initials that go down the alphabet" has to be the most convoluted way I've heard someone say 'alphabetical order' in my LIFE
Consecutive means the next letter is *directly* after the previous letter on the alphabet. Alphabetical order doesn't have the same implication.
I'm still baffled that there was a controversy about whether or not birds are animals.
Mercedes Lackey is one of my favourite authors, but at this point, every time I see her mention "birds and animals" or "animals and birds" I want to take a sharpie and fix it. So frustrating. I think she writes that at least once per books. Even more frustrating, she literally raises birds. She should KNOW they're animals.
Oh, and some people think we're not animals. What are we then? *shakes head*
@@Avistew I had a genuine falling out with my best friend where he wouldn't talk to me for a full week because i said insects are animals. 'Insects aren't animals, insects are insects!' and 'humans aren't animals, animals are animals!' He claimed i was utterly stupid and went into a full rage for even suggesting such a heinous thing, lol. It's lovely how some people only think mammals count as animals ey? Silly.
i just noticed at 7:54 tim goes for oliver stone, presumably because of alex's "what do you think a bird is? it's not a rock" argument. great stuff
Around 4:00 when Key mentions beating the UK scrabble champion and there's a long pause while the other two awkwardly take perfectly synchronised sips of their drinks 😭
I feel like the animal thing would make a lot more sense if we knew how many drinks they had before the game started.
Another 20 minutes of three men rubbing their faces
I like how Key thought because something flies it means it's not an animal.
Bugs and microorganisms are animals too, which is maybe a bit less intuitive at first. Basically anything that eats to live instead of extracting its nutrients from the sun or a thermal vent etc.
@@Jesse__H bugs yes indeedy but microorganisms arent animals, theyre in the class monera. there are four kinds of living thing besides animal: monera, protista, plant, and fungi. if its not one of them, yer its an animal
@@taraghnéasach Water bears are animals
@@Jesse__H Fungi are heterotrophs too, i.e. they don't make their own food like plants.
"It does to be fair to it, it always has", Watson's response to Key claiming that the Alphabet goes up.
"I'm not sure if the Alphabet does go up or down", about 5 seconds later from the same Watson.
I feel like next time Mark is going to be like, "no more... people whose last names have letters."
Also, Key blew it with No More people over 80 (or dead), as Oliver Stone is only 73 (and alive).
Tim's just 7 years ahead of his time.
and isn't Prince dead?
romainthblt that category didn’t come into play because Oliver Stone was ruled out
Harzku
Categories aren’t ruled out when a person is eliminated... it was ruled out because of OS and never became a category
Tim Key had an absolute mare this game, has to be said
Everytime Mark says 'fiddly' I'm reminded of tasksmaster
He was so fun to watch on that task. He was generally fun but that was so fiddly :)
I was going to say, take a drink every time Mark says fiddly
How? (big shrug)
@@EvilSnowVO he had a task, he used the word over and over, it was funny.
@@akp0583 (the only other word he could think of to say was "How"... =P)
Because Tim refuses to stay in frame, I constantly think I've accidentally scrolled down.
I've gotten to know Tim Key and Mark Watson through Taskmaster (and seen Mark on QI as well). I absolutely fell in love with them. It makes sense that these 3 are friends. Please never stop working together. (whether it's on this channel or any other way). xxx Fan from the Netherlands :)
Mark Watson has appeared on old Mock the Week programmes, and Tim Key + Alex Horne on 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown
"I'm going with Dora."
"The explorer?"
"Yeah but that's not her surname."
I think I am finally starting to figure out the rule. This ignorance does not stop me from enjoying the show. I love the giggles.
This is half game and half bizarre sitcom, love it.
Birds are animals - how on earth did that merit such discussion!?
Came back to rewatch this game because my math teacher asked “is a bird an animal?” in class today. Didn’t mind it at all.
Imagine trying to explain to Tim Key that sea sponges are animals, that the natural sponges you can buy are in fact animal skeletons
So often I've had people come at me, with breathtaking arrogance and certainty, that a birds, fish, bugs etc aren't animals. I think they get confused between the word "mammal" and "animal". Crazy, if Key says it's not an animal then he must accept that he believes it's a plant or a mineral. 😂
When Alex said 'the big guy' I immediatly thought Greg Davies XD
Watto is on the bottom, and not on the left. I'm so confused.
Justin Smith maybe he left the call 2/3rds thru for a minute then rejoined
This is a great game. Wonderful idea guys and thanks for putting this out to be enjoyed. God bless
This is the best game. Surely this will turn up on radio 4 at some point.
They already did years ago as part of the panelshow "It's your round". Panelists on that show would each have to bring their own games to play against the rest of the panel, and Tim Key brought in this game, which was then titled 'no more women'. Bridget Christie won on that occasion by adding the category "no-one else".
Wouldn't work on Radio 4, it's actually funny,
@@gladtobeangryTrust Christie to play dirty. Giving us all a bad name.
Get well soon, Tim-Key-six-weeks-in-the-past.
Tim’s unbridled aggression amuses me, also Paul ince has an owl was interesting
I love everything about this.
The rule was a name can’t rhyme with the name of a footballer that any of the three of them can name, so even though Key was out that rule still applied to him, especially considering the rule was instated after he was out and clearly said “that any of us can name”
I like the idea that those just are Alex's pajamas
Ru Paul breaks the repeated vowels rule! 😱
nah, RuPaul is one name. though i suppose RuPaul Charles breaks it, but he doesn't really go by his full name, does he
Natalia Soto ahhh, yes of course! Thank you :)
Last 6 letters too wasn’t that a rule in this game? Last 1/5 of the alphabet or was that a different game
@@ted1799 last 5 letters... So juusst misses it v w x y z
So does Edson Arantes do Nascimento (Pelé) if we're going by full names :D
I could watch this all day!!
11:43 out of context hilarity
I can only assume that the 1 dislike for this video as I watch it, is from Key lamenting his early defeat here.
When's the next round on? Three games in, and I'm already needy for more
It's already the best content of 2020.
these videos are so damn addictive
Need more of these please
It's really kicking off now!
Beats the scrap out of crabble.
This is madness from the off!
Didn't ru Paul break the double vowel rule😂
RuPaul is one word
@@marcporkribs that felt as though it was said with such confidence and authority, I'm reluctant to challenge. Touché
I've watched them all twice now
I'm curious what Key thinks birds are, or is this that meme that all birds are government drones?
Really enjoying these. It sparks a memory, I vaguely remember someone on RUclips called 'Blade376' playing this game, but it was called either 'No More Men' or 'No More Women', must have been about 12 years ago at a guess and this is probably the first time I've thought about it since I watched it haha
They used to call it 'No More Women'.
How did no one address 11:43 ... Key WHAT HAPPENED?
Wait. Tim Key thinks birds are not animals?
He's so sure, too. He thinks it's a technicality that they're animals not, just, what they absolutely are all the time to everyone but him.
This is classic Tim Key anti comedy where he knows he’s wrong but it’s game 3 of the same night so he’s a bit drunk and it’s turned into a Kaufman type bit
@@JoshuaRoss2 considering theres a date after each of these, which are all.diferent, i believe these are done on different.nights
@@JoshuaRoss2 we found Tim Key's alt account :)
I know someone who think spiders, insects, etc. aren't animals. A couple of times, I've had to remind them that if it's alive, moves around, not a bacteria or a plant - then it's an animal.
You could almost do a sister show, ‘No More Jockeys.... fact-checked!’
if u started this, i'd subscribe
"what's at the bottom of numbers!"
This is such an outstanding game - need some smarter friends!
Trish King Who does? You, or Alex?
Key doesn't accept a bird is an animal. You don't need to be that smart.
I feel like Key is confusing Mammal with Animal.
Each episode of this has been utterly delightful. Where did Tim Key get his foxy jumper, for my heart desires one?
Key just posted it on his twitter. It's from Aloha From Deer, the jumper is called Wild foxes Sweatshirt.
alohafromdeer.com/product/wild-foxes-sweatshirt?collection=men_clothes_mens-cotton-sweatshirts
@@mariae9429 THANK you MAria, you utter legend
For my own benefit
1K: Sandi Toksvig
NM CONSECUTIVE INITIALS
(In the normal direction)
2W: Anthea Turner
NM INITIALS THAT CAN BE PLAYED AS A SCRABBLE WORD
3H: Robin Gibb
NM ANIMALS AS NAMES
(whole, first or second)
4K: Oliver Stone
🚩[VIOLATION: OS - So is a word]
(I caught this early - they never specified what order)
(Alex challenges but just Os)
K OUT
5W: Quentin Letts
NM IDENTICAL VOWELS IN BOTH NAMES
6H: Donald Trump (damnit Alex I watch British TV to AVOID this country)
NM BLONDS
7W: Pele
NM FAMOUS 60S PEOPLE
8H: Stormzy
NM NAMES WITH V-Z
9W: Prince
NM SURNAMES RHYMING W ENGLISH FOOTBALLER SURNAMES
10H: Mo Salah
NM SPORTY TYPES
11W: Marge Simpsons
NM INITIALS THAT MATCH PLAYERS
12H: Rachel Gibson
NM DRINKING BUDDIES
13W: Rupaul
NM U IN NAMES
14H: Dora (The Explorer)
NM SINGLE NAMES
15W: Noel Gay
🚩 Name ends in Y
W OUT
H WINS
Thanks for collating each round. I think that Mark should've been out in round 9 as Prince was born Prince (Rogers) Nelson so would fall foul of indentical vowels in both names.
Oliver Stone is R->S too!
@@tubbs_chubbs that would be fair because its not his initials
@@tubbs_chubbs S->T in Stone too
Ru Paul same vowels?
They need to decide whether Mo Salah's first name is "Mo" or "Mohammed". They've played it both ways now....
I thought that first but it might have been Mo Farah last time
drumlightable
It was, but Mo Salah was also used as an alternative example.
To be fair though, they were discussing the popularity of the name last time so I think it’s valid to use the full/original version of it in that case.
However for most other contexts I think it’s sensible to use the version of the name that the person is referred to by most often.
Amusing that Alex had to defend that a bird is an animal when it definitely, without question, is an animal. What else would it be.
2:30 when you coutn down you would write 10 at hte top, when you count up you'd put 1 at the top so thats actually an argument that you do count up to z
Alphabet goes left to right
There's a chart in my Son's room that goes from up to down
@@akp0583 when he lays on his right side it's left to right
The alphabet is in alphabetical order.
5:35 I've watched these early games several times and only this time round did I wonder whether Alex was referring to Tim not knowing what were animals, or whether there's something else in his life that's given rise to questioning what counts as an animal. But all the other times previously I have just assumed it is referring to Tim inexplicably having this bizarre gap in his understanding of the world and Alex keeps coming up against it 😄
Key seems to genuinely dispute that robins are animals. Thought he was quite a clever fellow.
I'm doing a rewatch and for some reason only realising this now but.. why does Key have a framed picture of Horne's wife in frame all the time lol 17:27
Was curious about this myself and how they knew each other. I found an article where Horne spoke about how Tim lived with him for several years until he got engaged (well Key's described as being on the floor...), And how it felt like being in a relationship of three. So presumablely they're all very close friends
I'm more curious about the wallpaper photo on his phone...
Horne: No more sporty types. Horne 2 minutes later: Alan Ball, Steve Bull, Gladstone Small. Hahaha!
Ha! He wasn’t trying to use them - they were rhymes for Ru Paul, he was trying to challenge!
i know it’s been 3 years, but:
A bird is a warm-blooded Vertebrate, in the class Aves, and of the kingdom of Animalia. If that Wasn’t The Fuck Enough: Animals in the biological kingdom of Animalia are multicellular and *eukaryotic* (cells with a nucleus). Animals can move independently with metabolic energy, sexually reproduce with the production of a blastula i.e. producing an embryo that IN SOME WAY develops (egg vs. womb etc), and breathe oxygen. (there are others but it’s unimportant)
The Bilateria is a monophyletic/natural group known as a Clade. This group makes up a majority of known animals, and is indicative of a common ancestor and it’s descendants. The Bilateria also have *Bilater* al symmetrical, meaning you can cut it across the sagittal plane and it’ll give you approximately two identical halves.
Now, this Bilateria includes the _deuterostomes_ . These sexy beasts form embryonically from anus to mouth. This clade includes 2 phylums, the most important being ye olde Chordate. These bad boys have a circulatory system, are bilaterally symmetric, have 5 distinguishing synapomorphies (thyroid, pharyngeal slits, dorsal hollow nerve chords, post-anal tails, and notochords), and a couple other things i can’t be arsed to type. The important bit is the subphyla Craniata, the rank including Fish, Amphibians, Reptiles, Mammals, and *Birds* .
So, not only is a bird an animal, it’s an animal of the animalia kingdom in the most common clade, with some pretty fucking obvious indicators of its status.
Summary: Jesus christ Tim, it’s not a mineral for fucks sake.
Prince was not a pseudonymous mononym, but was instead Prince’s actual first name: Prince Rogers Nelson!
Also dead, unfortunately. or was that the category that was eliminated?
13:35 isn't a valid scrabble word
So... Will there be a round 4?
Oliver Stone is 73, so much for "over 80 or dead"...
Also os is a two letter Scrabble word
that category was void
2:30: Tim Key there just processing that the alphabet goes down and numbers, actually, go up.
Alex thinks he’s going for Mo Salah
mo salah?
@@BenjaminAshmead Mo Salah.
Yeah he’s going for Mo Salah
@@lindsayoakes Mo Salah...
Incredible. Don't put it on TV - you'll ruin the vibe. Keep it on zoom.
I can only imagine how long this takes to edit. This is so uniquely British! Very good.
Did anyone else notice Key screaming when he left to get a drink....?
Poor Mark "middle-child" Watson
WHAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF NUMBERS?
Were these all recorded on the same night and... are they getting more drunk as it goes on? :)
This is glorious stuff, keep it coming xxx
No, they do a Zoom call once a week where they play this. The dates are on each video.
4:08 synchronised drinking
Amazed to discover that Tim Key doesn't know what an animal is!
Oliver Stone is 73 years old.
Hahahahaha reading this made me laugh a lot
Horne should have won when Mark said Ru Paul - no more names with a vowel that occurs in each of their names. Which in this case would be “u”
RuPaul Andre Charles so actually two As
Os - used on a daily basis by gynaecologists. Was desperately hoping that was the definition Key was going to produce!
It's just "mouth" in Latin (and used for openings in general).
Also I'm pretty sure Oliver Stone is under 80.
18:00 "So thats going one letter back in the alphabet". Surely he means up (or down) ?
Mark should have been challenged for Ru Paul.
The letter 'U' appears in both names.
RuPaul is just his first name, it’s like a cher situation
It's actually RuPaul, not Ru Paul. so it does work for that rule at least.
'Os' you can play with Scrabble in Dutch. Means 'ox'.
Does Key only own one shirt?
"Paul Ince has got an owl"
Absolutely baffled how the discussion on whether a bird is a feckin animal lasted so long
It don't matter if you'd be disappointed in a wren. Even shit animals is animals, Key.
How do the name rules work with pseudonyms? If someone knew that Stormzy's initials were MO, would that be a successful challenge (because as we know from a previous episode, mo is a word)?
No you use their name as widely presented, such as might head a Wikipedia article.
Mark loves to say "You know, that's really hard now. It's because of all the categories."
Mark, my dude, that's literally just the game.
and that's literally the joke
Yep.
RuPaul is his first name. It's RuPaul Charles. His name isn't Ru Paul.
that still has 2 A's
The alphabet goes down
LETTERS GO ALONG THE ALPHABET. Phew hate to be right.
Wait, Ru Paul has a "u" in both first and last names.
is 'turner' not consecutive letters??
Ru Paul has the same vowel in both names.
Can’t believe Watson didn’t challenge with Bobby Zamora
John Cleese - No more Tall people
This seems to differ from No More Women in that the categories tend to relate more to the actual name and spellings rather than the person.