Very fine sail-surfing! I love the seamless transitions from wind to wave and back again, putting your feet where the foil feels best, seeing the gliding buzz you’re getting on that ART999
@@steevpeyroux7001 Often the drone guy is not there when you need him, but I am grateful when he shows up. Flying in a stronger breeze is also a problem for them. I want my own drone that follows me. Hopefully one day the technology will allow. A couple of years back there was a promo video for that exact product, but to the best of my knowledge it never made it to market. A mate on a jetski with a gopro would be good too, but I don't have anyone suitable.
Great flying! I like your notes after your session too. I now own one board / foil / wing. I have the 2021 5'8" Starboard Wingboard at 88L / Axis ART 1099, short, 400 progressive / 6.2m Mojo. I am a fan of all three but would like to improve my minimum wind needed to get flying some. The ART 1099 has such good glide and maneuverability I would like this to be my largest wing. I rilly like my Mojo and don't want a bigger hand wing right now so I am thinking a larger board may be my next upgrade. The Axis 2022 Froths look very good with the flat square rear end to help with increasing board speed with a high aspect foil. I am about 75 kg right now and regularly Wing in fresh water with gustier conditions and a shorter fetch. My 88L board is not too small but a larger board seems like it would be more fun in light wind and maybe make it easier to get flying in less wind. We are going to get less wind here in the Seattle area until fall. So I am thinking a 105L board or maybe a 95L Froth could be great. Maybe I could sell my 88L now and get a smaller board in the fall? I have read different opinions on the Froth. How well do you feel they hold up? Are they considered a light board for their size compaired to other carbon boards? What is your current light wind board? Do you find for high aspect foils a flat square board is the best to reduce the wind needed to get flying? The 2022 Starboard Wingboards have a lot going on on the bottom and seem to release easly but I am not sure how Starboard compairs to Axis boards for HA. Thanks for any advice!
Hi Jonathan, all very good questions. I love light wind and pushing the limits as to how light a breeze I can get going in. I don’t think a bigger board for you is the solution to getting going in less wind. Provided my light wind board (90L Axis V3 Red Froth 5’1” x 26”) is stable enough and floats me in no wind, then that is all I need. With me at 80kgs my 90L does. This would be the same for you at 75kgs on your 88L board. Any board bigger than “what you need” means it is harder to pump up onto the foil and more swing weight when foiling. However, to your point, a bigger (longer) board may give you slightly more “boat speed” which will get you foiling earlier. However, with proper technique to get on the foil (ollie (kick) your back foot coordinated with aggressive pumping of your hand wing) I would not swap my 90L for anything bigger. I don’t think the “boat speed” advantages of a bigger board outweigh the negatives. You have said you would like your Axis 1099 ART to be your biggest front wing. This position will limit your ability to get going in less wind. I have a few more lighter wind set ups than you, with the main point being none of them include a bigger board (nor can I see myself adding a board bigger than 90L to my light wind wingfoil mix). In the interest of full disclosure I do have a 110L Axis V3 Red Froth - but this is solely for sup foil surfing - I have never winged this board. I need the bigger board because anything smaller simply does not paddle well (too short and wide). The other point to note about Axis ART wings is they are very high aspect, which makes them difficult to get up onto the foil - however, once foiling they are so efficient and fast. However, I have never considered ART wings as a light wing option, but they are the most fun to ride. By accident I added a 7m Flysurfer Mojo to my quiver. I have now grown to really like this wing and it is such a beast in light wind. It allows me to get going on my ART 1099 in a lot less wind than the 6.2 Mojo. Notwithstanding its size it is still very manageable and fun to use (of course smaller hand wings will always be better). I also have two more front wing options than the ART 1099 for lighter wind - HPS 1050 and PNG 1300. The HPS is lower aspect than the ART and with a different foil section that provides more lift - a slight compromise on speed compared to the ART 1099 but gets going in less wind. The 1050 HPS is still a very nice wing to ride. The PNG 1300 is recommended for those with serious foil addiction issues (tragics like me). It is quite hard to gybe, relatively slow, but just gets going in the lightest possible breeze and is so much fun to ride. The 1300 and the 7m Mojo gets me going in 5 ish knots. Another very important aspect for light wind is the size of your rear wing. I will try and match front and rear wings (ie: big front big rear). I find for very light wind bigger rear wings are better for pumping up onto the foil. Is the science here because they don’t sink as much as a smaller rear wing they don’t upset the “angle of attack” of the front wing, making it more efficient and therefore faster to get onto the foil. For very light days I use the Axis 500 anhedral, which is just massive and relatively slow, but so nice to pump up onto the foil. I also have a new Axis 475/68 Progressive, which is faster than my 500 and still considered a big rear. You are using a 400/65 Progressive which is a great rear wing, however, I would consider this a relatively small wing. Fine for your 1099 when in decent breeze. So, to your question, to enhance light wind performance I would prioritise a bigger hand wing, liftier front wing, bigger rear wing, all ahead of a bigger volume board (which I would not consider at all). To your other questions, yes the Axis V3 Froths are much faster through the water allowing quicker take off and have been designed with higher aspect wings (harder to get foiling) in mind. Possibly your Starboard is not as fast through the water, but I don’t know this for sure. “How well do the Froths hold up?” - excellent in my experience, I have had Froth V1, V2 and V3 with many hours on them, dragging them in an out of my car, and they still look like new and seem bulletproof. I know the Froth V3s have PVC and carbon on them making them even stronger for jumping. Their strength means they are not the lightest board on the market, but this is reflected in their price.
Great video! I'm considering the new red froth. I'm 70kgs suited and intermediate rider. Would you recommend the 75ltr for my weight? I often ride in choppy North sea conditions. Also considering the 999 or should I go 899? Thanks!
Cheers Sam. The red Axis Froths are great boards and have a different feel to the silver Froths (V1 and V2)….the red being V3 I think. I am 80kgs and ride a 75L red and still use (to compare mostly) my 70L V2 (silver one). For me to suggest what size is suitable for you let me know (1) what wind strength do you normally ride in (2) what size hand wings do you mostly use (3) what volume is your current board (4) what front wing are you currently riding (5) what rear wing(s) are you currently riding (6) are you nailing all of your gybes. The red boards are narrower than the silver ones - therefore less stable, but faster through the water (get foiling earlier), faster through the air. The red ones have a different feel under foot due to the concave deck. Re 999 or 899, answers to the above questions will help my opinion. I have not ridden the 899. I expect it will be magnificent, just as the 999 is. The difference in front wing size will be speed, manoeuvrability, stability, ease of getting onto the foil, glide time, joy of riding. Another point re board stability - I have developed a technique for getting going on my 75L and 70L boards (semi sinkers for me when there is not enough wind), particularly in choppy conditions, not rocket science, but just a simple way of doing things that make all the difference. (1) My hand wing must be the right way up before I even attempt to get moving (2) To do this I straddle the board sitting on it like I am on a surfboard waiting for a wave, turn the wing the right way up (3) Lie flat on the board (prone) and move my board leash from between my legs (it always seems to end up there) (4) Get to my knees with my downwind hand holding the front (leading edge / witching) handle bracing myself for support to stop me flopping off the board (5) If I am in a lull I won’t attempt to get going as it is the breeze fully powering up the hand wing that gives me the support I need (6) Lifting the hand wing by the front handle I make a lunge for the back or middle boom handle - it is this step where you can lose your balance and flop off the board, more so if it is choppy. (7) When the hand wing is powered up I go from my knees to my feet and pump up onto the foil. I don’t know about you, but often sea weed can be a big problem for us. If it is and I know I will be crashing a lot (having to re-start a lot, thereby getting tired) I will make the conservative decision to take my 90L board out, for stability and ease of getting going reasons, at the expense of a more fun, responsive ride. Every time I have made this decision I have never regretted it.
@@foilingnz3658 Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated! An average day would be 12-20kts, I'm on 4 and 5m wings making most my jibes, learning tacks and riding some small swell. Currently on Gong gear but I have had a session on a Hps 980 and a very quick go on a 999. Both felt very fast and very slippery and I can see how they could become v addictive I'm riding a home made 5.0 board around 85ltrs and I had a shot of a 75ltr fone rocket the other day which was fine, but def less stable in roll. A few of us over here are really intrigued with the new shape board. Is it noticeably faster? Would it allow you to get on foil in light wind much easier or would a larger board have the same effect?
@@Samlsb80 Going from 85L to 75L is not a big step down, plus it sounds like you are well qualified for a board that small. Yes, the red Froths are faster through the water and therefore quicker to get on the foil, which is important with the higher aspect front wings. The 980 HPS is a great wing, has more lift than the ART999, and as a result is slightly de-tuned compared to the ART999. If there is a lot of white water I often will ride my 980 HPS as getting going quicker (getting out of trouble) takes priority. In my experience of getting going in light wind I always tend for a bigger board (90L) simply for flotation, a more stable platform to pump up onto the foil, and a longer board (waterline length in yachting terms) will give you more “boat speed” and therefore earlier foiling. Plus, me at 80kgs sinks on my 75L and 70L board if there is not enough wind.
Very fine sail-surfing! I love the seamless transitions from wind to wave and back again, putting your feet where the foil feels best, seeing the gliding buzz you’re getting on that ART999
Cheers Steev, right you are. The Axis ART 999 is simply a dream to ride.
And your drone filmer rocks! I want one too
@@steevpeyroux7001 Often the drone guy is not there when you need him, but I am grateful when he shows up.
Flying in a stronger breeze is also a problem for them.
I want my own drone that follows me. Hopefully one day the technology will allow.
A couple of years back there was a promo video for that exact product, but to the best of my knowledge it never made it to market.
A mate on a jetski with a gopro would be good too, but I don't have anyone suitable.
Great video and excellent, detailed response in the comments. I’m a big fan!
Thanks Geoff, nice to hear.
Great flying!
I like your notes after your session too.
I now own one board / foil / wing. I have the 2021 5'8" Starboard Wingboard at 88L / Axis ART 1099, short, 400 progressive / 6.2m Mojo. I am a fan of all three but would like to improve my minimum wind needed to get flying some. The ART 1099 has such good glide and maneuverability I would like this to be my largest wing. I rilly like my Mojo and don't want a bigger hand wing right now so I am thinking a larger board may be my next upgrade.
The Axis 2022 Froths look very good with the flat square rear end to help with increasing board speed with a high aspect foil. I am about 75 kg right now and regularly Wing in fresh water with gustier conditions and a shorter fetch. My 88L board is not too small but a larger board seems like it would be more fun in light wind and maybe make it easier to get flying in less wind.
We are going to get less wind here in the Seattle area until fall. So I am thinking a 105L board or maybe a 95L Froth could be great. Maybe I could sell my 88L now and get a smaller board in the fall?
I have read different opinions on the Froth. How well do you feel they hold up? Are they considered a light board for their size compaired to other carbon boards? What is your current light wind board?
Do you find for high aspect foils a flat square board is the best to reduce the wind needed to get flying? The 2022 Starboard Wingboards have a lot going on on the bottom and seem to release easly but I am not sure how Starboard compairs to Axis boards for HA.
Thanks for any advice!
Hi Jonathan, all very good questions. I love light wind and pushing the limits as to how light a breeze I can get going in. I don’t think a bigger board for you is the solution to getting going in less wind. Provided my light wind board (90L Axis V3 Red Froth 5’1” x 26”) is stable enough and floats me in no wind, then that is all I need. With me at 80kgs my 90L does. This would be the same for you at 75kgs on your 88L board. Any board bigger than “what you need” means it is harder to pump up onto the foil and more swing weight when foiling. However, to your point, a bigger (longer) board may give you slightly more “boat speed” which will get you foiling earlier. However, with proper technique to get on the foil (ollie (kick) your back foot coordinated with aggressive pumping of your hand wing) I would not swap my 90L for anything bigger. I don’t think the “boat speed” advantages of a bigger board outweigh the negatives. You have said you would like your Axis 1099 ART to be your biggest front wing. This position will limit your ability to get going in less wind. I have a few more lighter wind set ups than you, with the main point being none of them include a bigger board (nor can I see myself adding a board bigger than 90L to my light wind wingfoil mix). In the interest of full disclosure I do have a 110L Axis V3 Red Froth - but this is solely for sup foil surfing - I have never winged this board. I need the bigger board because anything smaller simply does not paddle well (too short and wide). The other point to note about Axis ART wings is they are very high aspect, which makes them difficult to get up onto the foil - however, once foiling they are so efficient and fast. However, I have never considered ART wings as a light wing option, but they are the most fun to ride. By accident I added a 7m Flysurfer Mojo to my quiver. I have now grown to really like this wing and it is such a beast in light wind. It allows me to get going on my ART 1099 in a lot less wind than the 6.2 Mojo. Notwithstanding its size it is still very manageable and fun to use (of course smaller hand wings will always be better). I also have two more front wing options than the ART 1099 for lighter wind - HPS 1050 and PNG 1300. The HPS is lower aspect than the ART and with a different foil section that provides more lift - a slight compromise on speed compared to the ART 1099 but gets going in less wind. The 1050 HPS is still a very nice wing to ride. The PNG 1300 is recommended for those with serious foil addiction issues (tragics like me). It is quite hard to gybe, relatively slow, but just gets going in the lightest possible breeze and is so much fun to ride. The 1300 and the 7m Mojo gets me going in 5 ish knots. Another very important aspect for light wind is the size of your rear wing. I will try and match front and rear wings (ie: big front big rear). I find for very light wind bigger rear wings are better for pumping up onto the foil. Is the science here because they don’t sink as much as a smaller rear wing they don’t upset the “angle of attack” of the front wing, making it more efficient and therefore faster to get onto the foil. For very light days I use the Axis 500 anhedral, which is just massive and relatively slow, but so nice to pump up onto the foil. I also have a new Axis 475/68 Progressive, which is faster than my 500 and still considered a big rear. You are using a 400/65 Progressive which is a great rear wing, however, I would consider this a relatively small wing. Fine for your 1099 when in decent breeze. So, to your question, to enhance light wind performance I would prioritise a bigger hand wing, liftier front wing, bigger rear wing, all ahead of a bigger volume board (which I would not consider at all). To your other questions, yes the Axis V3 Froths are much faster through the water allowing quicker take off and have been designed with higher aspect wings (harder to get foiling) in mind. Possibly your Starboard is not as fast through the water, but I don’t know this for sure. “How well do the Froths hold up?” - excellent in my experience, I have had Froth V1, V2 and V3 with many hours on them, dragging them in an out of my car, and they still look like new and seem bulletproof. I know the Froth V3s have PVC and carbon on them making them even stronger for jumping. Their strength means they are not the lightest board on the market, but this is reflected in their price.
YOU ARE AMAZING!!!
Seriously great advice! Thanks 😊
@@foilingnz3658 Hi. I just have to chime in and say that's an excellent write up and helpful. Thanks for taking time. Nice riding too. Regards.
@@irf888 Cheers mate, nice to hear.
Great video! I'm considering the new red froth. I'm 70kgs suited and intermediate rider. Would you recommend the 75ltr for my weight? I often ride in choppy North sea conditions. Also considering the 999 or should I go 899? Thanks!
Cheers Sam. The red Axis Froths are great boards and have a different feel to the silver Froths (V1 and V2)….the red being V3 I think. I am 80kgs and ride a 75L red and still use (to compare mostly) my 70L V2 (silver one). For me to suggest what size is suitable for you let me know (1) what wind strength do you normally ride in (2) what size hand wings do you mostly use (3) what volume is your current board (4) what front wing are you currently riding (5) what rear wing(s) are you currently riding (6) are you nailing all of your gybes. The red boards are narrower than the silver ones - therefore less stable, but faster through the water (get foiling earlier), faster through the air. The red ones have a different feel under foot due to the concave deck. Re 999 or 899, answers to the above questions will help my opinion. I have not ridden the 899. I expect it will be magnificent, just as the 999 is. The difference in front wing size will be speed, manoeuvrability, stability, ease of getting onto the foil, glide time, joy of riding. Another point re board stability - I have developed a technique for getting going on my 75L and 70L boards (semi sinkers for me when there is not enough wind), particularly in choppy conditions, not rocket science, but just a simple way of doing things that make all the difference. (1) My hand wing must be the right way up before I even attempt to get moving (2) To do this I straddle the board sitting on it like I am on a surfboard waiting for a wave, turn the wing the right way up (3) Lie flat on the board (prone) and move my board leash from between my legs (it always seems to end up there) (4) Get to my knees with my downwind hand holding the front (leading edge / witching) handle bracing myself for support to stop me flopping off the board (5) If I am in a lull I won’t attempt to get going as it is the breeze fully powering up the hand wing that gives me the support I need (6) Lifting the hand wing by the front handle I make a lunge for the back or middle boom handle - it is this step where you can lose your balance and flop off the board, more so if it is choppy. (7) When the hand wing is powered up I go from my knees to my feet and pump up onto the foil.
I don’t know about you, but often sea weed can be a big problem for us. If it is and I know I will be crashing a lot (having to re-start a lot, thereby getting tired) I will make the conservative decision to take my 90L board out, for stability and ease of getting going reasons, at the expense of a more fun, responsive ride. Every time I have made this decision I have never regretted it.
@@foilingnz3658 Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated! An average day would be 12-20kts, I'm on 4 and 5m wings making most my jibes, learning tacks and riding some small swell. Currently on Gong gear but I have had a session on a Hps 980 and a very quick go on a 999. Both felt very fast and very slippery and I can see how they could become v addictive I'm riding a home made 5.0 board around 85ltrs and I had a shot of a 75ltr fone rocket the other day which was fine, but def less stable in roll. A few of us over here are really intrigued with the new shape board. Is it noticeably faster? Would it allow you to get on foil in light wind much easier or would a larger board have the same effect?
@@Samlsb80 Going from 85L to 75L is not a big step down, plus it sounds like you are well qualified for a board that small. Yes, the red Froths are faster through the water and therefore quicker to get on the foil, which is important with the higher aspect front wings. The 980 HPS is a great wing, has more lift than the ART999, and as a result is slightly de-tuned compared to the ART999. If there is a lot of white water I often will ride my 980 HPS as getting going quicker (getting out of trouble) takes priority. In my experience of getting going in light wind I always tend for a bigger board (90L) simply for flotation, a more stable platform to pump up onto the foil, and a longer board (waterline length in yachting terms) will give you more “boat speed” and therefore earlier foiling. Plus, me at 80kgs sinks on my 75L and 70L board if there is not enough wind.
I want to do something like this😊
Awesome mate, it’s bloody good fun. Simply more time on the water.
Couldn't finish watching the slow footage with that hectic music over the top, sorry,
That music is just f*cking awful!