That’s is what I’m saying is ordinary people work to make a living and they put here making more then a regular person and complain they don’t have enough
@@iangreer4585 The studios are on our side. They are the ones fighting to keep our streaming subscription prices at a reasonable. The greedy artists don't understand real world struggles. It's about time they get a dose of reality. Hope everyone in that industry will lose their home before the next scheduled pandemic.
Writers don't do whatever they want They have to accommodate to what the ones above ask That's why those shows are bad, they don't let writers do the writing, also *nepotism.*
i honestly say good. whoever is writing shit like she-hulk and SNL and the james corden show and shit deserves to be getting paid LESS money than before this strike started. name one quality show that you are honestly missing during this strike
Considering how the majority of tv shows and movie are piss poor quality they have been putting out in the last few years I cant have empathy for them. I want to be entertained, not preached too.
Awe.....it's a voluntary job, she took it on thinking she could do good. She is getting slammed from both sides. One of the few that I actually have any compassion for at all.
Why don't you donate to a hungry kid in a 3rd world country instead of able bodied people who can get a job at Chipotle or move to a reasonably prized area
Hollywood is an exclusive club..Same directors, same actors, same writers ..no matter how bad the movie will get another chance to make another movie. Millions of dollars to same people..Us little people dont get much...Totally unfair to most people in this industry....thats why lots of people dont care
@@SebAnimePower I think he was being sarcastic, most people $14,000 a week would be considered a lot of money, that misunderstanding just goes to show how out of touch the Hollywood bubble is with real America
If you aren't being paid enough that's probably because that's all you are worth. If you can be replaced with A.I. then your ego is probably greater than your value. Reality must suck for those who played pandemic for three years and convinced themselves that they are essential workers.
I'm just gonna quote Schaffrillas here: "Do you really think that an artificial intelligence program could write something as darkly powerful as Oppenheimer, or as clever and wiitty as Barbie? Fuck all the way off. Writers make that happen."
@@iangreer4585 If writers "make that happen" then why aren't they making it happen? You are confused. The writers and actors are now begging not to be replaced by AI. They know something you haven't figured out yet. It's ok to be slow. Just don't expect others to follow you.
@@mattdorsey2244 Fine, have it your way. But when you have no source of income because you have been laid off to make room for an artificial intelligence doing your job at a quality that is significantly worse might I add, don't come crying to me.
bruh AI is the future who nos maybe AI takes over your job and your screaming for help! How you think alot of vehicles are made on production lines! AI is the future! Also they are able to take actors faces out them on someone else and have there same voice and it looks and speaks just like them! Why would you need the actor when you can just use AI to play them!
Yeah, dont feel bad for any of them. They never cared when assembly or manufacturing lost their jobs due to robotics. Reruns are great ! The good old days before you elitists went woke. Love Archie Bunker! Watched the old show family affair...
yep. if you watch these little news segments you'd think the unions are saints and complete victims. where's the news segments about amptp's most recent offer and how good it is? oh, yeah, you have go practically searching for that information.
@billusher2265 , the studios gave them a counter offer, and the WGA and SAG flat out refuse it instead of trying to meet in the middle. That's unreasonable. The whole point of negotiations is to find a "middle" ground between the parties involved. It is not my way or no way!
@@billusher2265 the WGA is a bloated whale without enough work to go around... and not enough talent to fill in the work there is to be had. the main sticking is and always has been, as far as i'm aware, the writers room having a mandatory staffing of DEI 'writers.' not only is this economically unrealistic, it has every potential to greatly interfere with the creative process and the vision of the other 'creatives.' while this kind of work always has been gig work its very nature, they full-time pay for basically part-time work, e.g. getting paid a certain amount of weeks whether or not the job lasts that long. this from a guild who supposedly has workshops on how to 'write woke,' filled with people who told real americans doing real work to learn to code when they lost their jobs. of course, AI, streaming residuals, and a bump in salary are all fair and reasonable... and basically already settled from what i hear. it doesn't take 1/3 of a year to debate minor points. it amounts to quasi-socialists who are shouting marxist theory from their bullhorns holding studios hostage over items that should have been negotiation angles meant to be bargained away. in the meanwhile, the media has been shilling hard for the unions (which many of the media belongs to). the unions are making 'exceptions' until they get called out on it, and they won't even allow actors to discuss projects they did 20 years ago. then they're threatening content creators, who don't even belong to their unions, with being blacklisted from ever joining if they talk about the strikes. it's the definition of 'unreasonable' and bullying. you don't see this stuff in the mainstream news, though, you have to find the articles buried in the trades.
@@roythousand13Middle ground. The initial negotiations were unreasonable by the Studios. Remember, they said they would carry out the strikes until the writers were unable to afford rent and got kicked out of their home. Take a guess as to how the initial pitch the studios made went. There wasn't a middle ground. It was so far skewed away from the writers and actors that this is why we are still striking.
“Wins”? For who? Elitism pervades in the AMPTP, WGA and SAG. They are what is known as “Above the line” in a production budget. That’s the 50% line. That means a handful of people make 50 percent of the money on a show and everyone else is Below the Line. There is even a payroll service for us called BTL. While they storm around pointing fingers at each other about how much the others make, Thousands of IATSE & unrepresented production crew and their families are being financially devastated, and it’s all been swept under the carpet. If and when they finally are allowed the privilege of going back to work for their 12 hour days, they’ll get to see WGA and SAG members enjoying the new raises and protections made off their backs while they pay off their debt.
Not likely. Looking at the stuff pushed back, it's looking like March or April of next year. We'll have to see. The studios have no reason to be in any hurry.
@@gnm7858 It could happen. After turning down a decent deal without giving it a thought, I'm banking that the union will not give in for fear of seeming weak. I don't see them accepting anything that isn't more than the first offer was. Anything is possibel though.
Yes, studio greed. Warner CEO has made $500 million in the past 5 years for firing staff and creating nothing, but they can't pay the people who actually create the product they sell. Pure greed.
@@AGirlofYesterday Studios make the movies that actors and writers beg to work on. Support the studios and forget about writers and actors. We need the studios. The writers and actors can be easily replaced.
@@mattdorsey2244 For 15 years I've experienced firsthand how Hollywood studios operate. They have all the power, all the money, all the slick lawyers, and they abuse it all to the fullest. I promise they don't need our support.
@@AGirlofYesterday Good luck to you and your young career. I myself have been working in the film industry for 43 years now. Never have I been hired by a writer or an actor. A word of advice to someone who is just getting started. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
@@mattdorsey2244 But the hand we're biting isn't feeding us. It's starving us. That's the whole point. The studios are digging their own graves with the false belief that anyone off the street can write as well as a professional. If you still believe that after 43 years, you must be either a ceo or an accountant.
People need to remember how these strikers behaved during the pandemic. If you do then you'd NEVER support these strikers as they shat on everyone during the pandemic, so let's show them the same gratitude.
They were allowed to work through the pandemic while small business and restaurants were forced to close. Many of those small shops were never able to open again. These film workers seemed to enjoy playing pandemic and calling themselves essential workers while ignoring the destruction going on all around them. They are arrogant, selfish and dangerous people who take their marching orders from their unions, who in turn take their orders from government officials and big pharma. I hope they lose everything. We would do better without them.
@@dejon007 Read up on the Hollywood covid vaccination mandates.........Non of these strikers actually spoke up about how it is inhumane to force a vaccination on a person, which if they didn't comply then they will lose their jobs. Also these strikers told us in the pandemic that we were "selfish" if we wanted to leave our homes and save our jobs, small businesses etc however these strikers was "essential workers" who was getting paid and talked down to anyone else that didn't want to lose their livelihoods. These strikers deserve NO SUPPORT!
Excuse me but ALOT of work STOPPED for film workers. Your argument is disingenuous. Many people were able to work from home, unlike people who worked on set - do you have issues with them too?
Totally world effected... regarding this strike. I am from India.we are simply sitting.we don't know how can stop. That strike. We want normal days... it's happened like more than carona...
When my local liberal news channel doesn't even mention this woke Hollywood strike you know it has come to non woke American didn't care and now even liberal news doesn't care😂😂😂😂😂
TRUE Hollywood is dead and gone anyway and has been for years . There is no longer great QUALITY writing at all . Hollywood is nothing but a HELL HOLE straight from the pit of HELL . I will not miss anything coming out of Hollywood .
Time for the writers to go back to the day they were "employees" of the studio.. No more residuals... No more dramatic 25,000 per episode checks.. You will get a biweekly paycheck like any Joe Shmo (above middle class for southern California) and benefits... This will give the writers a sustainable financial life.. Writers will not be wealthy or famous, but they will be able to take care of themselves and family...
Who cares? For the last decade the vast majority of the movies coming out of Hollywood have been crap! Im so sick of superhero movies, remakes, sequels and prequels I can't stand it. There is nothing original or creative anymore. Honestly, this strike can last forever.
I agree with Actors joining the strike support and non-use of artificial intelligence, except not when they come asking for more money. What scum bags. You literally have actors and actresses, making millions upon millions if not tens of millions of dollars per film. While the writers that write everything they act out are making $100,000 for the movie. If they are lucky. The writers are going to get screwed in the end. The studios will make an agreement with the actors to not use AI and CGI on them. Give them more money per film and have AI write the films/shows. Actors are scumbags. They see an opportunity to get money and jump on board and are not going to be able to work anyway with writers on strike. Like I said why are they asking for more money when they already make 10 times more than writers who are asking for more money. The Actors are going to end up screwing the writers in the end.
The writers seem to think they are all powerful and capable of running this show.....but if it dies a slow and painful death it's not going to make a singe ounce of difference to me and many other "consumers" out there. It's first world problems and it is disgusting that they are acting like a bunch of spoiled children. Good riddance and may there be a new guild that rises out of the ashes with people who have a new perspective on value for money and what it means to take personal responsibility for their actions. This is union power tripping (as usual).
Good!! Do not need them!
You say this as you go watch a movie or a show right after lol
@@sadworldwideit's all trash....pick up a book instead
hopefully this will weed out the bad writers and we can get some quality stuff
We are all struggling. We don't care about you just as much as you know i exist in this world
That’s is what I’m saying is ordinary people work to make a living and they put here making more then a regular person and complain they don’t have enough
Strike ?
I haven't noticed.
They don't produce anything I want to watch any more.
They being the studios, not the artists being paid under the value they are actually worth.
@@iangreer4585
The artists actually produce the woke commie garbage which I don't care to see.
@@iangreer4585 The studios are on our side. They are the ones fighting to keep our streaming subscription prices at a reasonable. The greedy artists don't understand real world struggles. It's about time they get a dose of reality. Hope everyone in that industry will lose their home before the next scheduled pandemic.
Writers don't do whatever they want
They have to accommodate to what the ones above ask
That's why those shows are bad, they don't let writers do the writing, also *nepotism.*
@@Le-Ghost Bingo
I’m so happy it’s not a lot of woke crap on tv for a while
Define woke? Or is it just a stupid term that you use because you don't like something
Why should they . Everyone knows . Maybe you should educate yourself if you don't know the definition . Not difficult
@punchcat0736 It means different things to different people. I don't need to educate myself. This term is used by those that don't like anything
Turns out no one cares. Strike forever.
I hope it last two more years
@@malcolmxpantherreally?
Tell you A list to give up their 40 million dollars salaries. Maybe there will be money for all😂😂😂
YOU get it!
Obviously you hit the nail on the head!!!
They beat their chests for Wealth Redistribution policies! Why not practice what they preach?
i honestly say good. whoever is writing shit like she-hulk and SNL and the james corden show and shit deserves to be getting paid LESS money than before this strike started. name one quality show that you are honestly missing during this strike
Learn to code Hollywood.
Learn basic punctuation before you criticize professional wordsmiths.
@@lostwoods5687 Flew over your head didn't it
It's still on?? 😂
Stay on strike!
Considering how the majority of tv shows and movie are piss poor quality they have been putting out in the last few years I cant have empathy for them. I want to be entertained, not preached too.
Keep the strike up for the next 5 years teach business they cant make it without you.
🍿 oh the drama. Hired A.I
Make a deal soon
Why?
I don’t think he’s using “untenable” in its proper context. Is it me, or are these writers using words improperly?
I don't know...they certainly aren't wasting any creativity of the signs they carry.
They need to get rid of Fran she’s a bad Union leader 😂😂😂
Awe.....it's a voluntary job, she took it on thinking she could do good. She is getting slammed from both sides. One of the few that I actually have any compassion for at all.
Hollywood is dying and it’s glorious !!!!
They don’t care about money it’s all about greed these writers won’t stop and these actors are rich as hell why would they need more money
KEEP ON STRIKING!
Is there a fund link to help the strikers to keep on striking?
Loool
You should . Forget about the truly poor .
Why don't you donate to a hungry kid in a 3rd world country instead of able bodied people who can get a job at Chipotle or move to a reasonably prized area
Happy Labor Day jobless woke Hollywood strikers😂😂😂😂!
😂
Writer Strike will end in January 2024 of next year.
A bit optimistic, based on what was pushed back I'm going to say...... April possibly May.
like the way u think...this was ment to be a rally cry
Hollywood is an exclusive club..Same directors, same actors, same writers ..no matter how bad the movie will get another chance to make another movie. Millions of dollars to same people..Us little people dont get much...Totally unfair to most people in this industry....thats why lots of people dont care
writers are on strike??? who knew?? how long have they been on strike??
Nice grooming continues to be on hold!
How are they supposed to survive on 14k a week?🤷🏻♂️
Is that such a bad thing, 14k a week?
@@SebAnimePower I think he was being sarcastic, most people $14,000 a week would be considered a lot of money, that misunderstanding just goes to show how out of touch the Hollywood bubble is with real America
@@andrewwong8932 man how greedy can actors and writers be at this era?
Very greedy they get paid enough but yet want more and cry about it. This all just greed
And all these writers have given us is crap and they want more money forget that
Who cares!
If you aren't being paid enough that's probably because that's all you are worth. If you can be replaced with A.I. then your ego is probably greater than your value. Reality must suck for those who played pandemic for three years and convinced themselves that they are essential workers.
I can't write to save my life but you sound like your head is next on the chopping block and you won't see it coming
I'm just gonna quote Schaffrillas here: "Do you really think that an artificial intelligence program could write something as darkly powerful as Oppenheimer, or as clever and wiitty as Barbie? Fuck all the way off. Writers make that happen."
@@iangreer4585 If writers "make that happen" then why aren't they making it happen? You are confused. The writers and actors are now begging not to be replaced by AI. They know something you haven't figured out yet. It's ok to be slow. Just don't expect others to follow you.
@@mattdorsey2244 Fine, have it your way. But when you have no source of income because you have been laid off to make room for an artificial intelligence doing your job at a quality that is significantly worse might I add, don't come crying to me.
bruh AI is the future who nos maybe AI takes over your job and your screaming for help! How you think alot of vehicles are made on production lines! AI is the future! Also they are able to take actors faces out them on someone else and have there same voice and it looks and speaks just like them! Why would you need the actor when you can just use AI to play them!
stay on strike forever. love to see it
Stay gone! The real world doesn't need any of them 😂
Oh no! Not the American vidya game companies. Good riddance. Japan has 120% more talented writers and directors anyway
Lmao what are you talking about. If there one certain thing Japan video games writer sucks. Name one game where the story is amazing?
@@ForceInEvHorizon Lmao what are you talking about. Countless amount of Japanese games have great stories. That's a fact whether you like it or not.
@@js83 name one
Yeah, dont feel bad for any of them. They never cared when assembly or manufacturing lost their jobs due to robotics. Reruns are great ! The good old days before you elitists went woke. Love Archie Bunker!
Watched the old show family affair...
who cares
Karma for all those in a disgusting industry.
I hope the studios continue to stonewall the WGA and SAG, until they become reasonable in negotiations.
yep. if you watch these little news segments you'd think the unions are saints and complete victims. where's the news segments about amptp's most recent offer and how good it is? oh, yeah, you have go practically searching for that information.
how are they currently unreasonable?
@billusher2265 , the studios gave them a counter offer, and the WGA and SAG flat out refuse it instead of trying to meet in the middle. That's unreasonable. The whole point of negotiations is to find a "middle" ground between the parties involved. It is not my way or no way!
@@billusher2265 the WGA is a bloated whale without enough work to go around... and not enough talent to fill in the work there is to be had.
the main sticking is and always has been, as far as i'm aware, the writers room having a mandatory staffing of DEI 'writers.' not only is this economically unrealistic, it has every potential to greatly interfere with the creative process and the vision of the other 'creatives.'
while this kind of work always has been gig work its very nature, they full-time pay for basically part-time work, e.g. getting paid a certain amount of weeks whether or not the job lasts that long.
this from a guild who supposedly has workshops on how to 'write woke,' filled with people who told real americans doing real work to learn to code when they lost their jobs.
of course, AI, streaming residuals, and a bump in salary are all fair and reasonable... and basically already settled from what i hear. it doesn't take 1/3 of a year to debate minor points.
it amounts to quasi-socialists who are shouting marxist theory from their bullhorns holding studios hostage over items that should have been negotiation angles meant to be bargained away. in the meanwhile, the media has been shilling hard for the unions (which many of the media belongs to). the unions are making 'exceptions' until they get called out on it, and they won't even allow actors to discuss projects they did 20 years ago. then they're threatening content creators, who don't even belong to their unions, with being blacklisted from ever joining if they talk about the strikes.
it's the definition of 'unreasonable' and bullying. you don't see this stuff in the mainstream news, though, you have to find the articles buried in the trades.
@@roythousand13Middle ground. The initial negotiations were unreasonable by the Studios. Remember, they said they would carry out the strikes until the writers were unable to afford rent and got kicked out of their home. Take a guess as to how the initial pitch the studios made went. There wasn't a middle ground. It was so far skewed away from the writers and actors that this is why we are still striking.
Studios should negotiate without the streamers. Netflix, Amazon, Apple ruined system. Let them go it alone.
No one cares
“Wins”? For who? Elitism pervades in the AMPTP, WGA and SAG. They are what is known as “Above the line” in a production budget. That’s the 50% line. That means a handful of people make 50 percent of the money on a show and everyone else is Below the Line. There is even a payroll service for us called BTL.
While they storm around pointing fingers at each other about how much the others make, Thousands of IATSE & unrepresented production crew and their families are being financially devastated, and it’s all been swept under the carpet. If and when they finally are allowed the privilege of going back to work for their 12 hour days, they’ll get to see WGA and SAG members enjoying the new raises and protections made off their backs while they pay off their debt.
Uncharted waters....here be dragons ! 💀 👀
Writers and Amptp will negotiate again in October.
Not likely. Looking at the stuff pushed back, it's looking like March or April of next year. We'll have to see. The studios have no reason to be in any hurry.
@nightfall902 By January majority of the strikers will be broke and then they will cry to the studios for help
@@gnm7858 It could happen. After turning down a decent deal without giving it a thought, I'm banking that the union will not give in for fear of seeming weak. I don't see them accepting anything that isn't more than the first offer was. Anything is possibel though.
SAG have allowed so many people to keep working, that it doesn’t feel like they’re on strike at all.
This is a strike based on greed
Yes, studio greed. Warner CEO has made $500 million in the past 5 years for firing staff and creating nothing, but they can't pay the people who actually create the product they sell. Pure greed.
@@AGirlofYesterday Studios make the movies that actors and writers beg to work on. Support the studios and forget about writers and actors. We need the studios. The writers and actors can be easily replaced.
@@mattdorsey2244 For 15 years I've experienced firsthand how Hollywood studios operate. They have all the power, all the money, all the slick lawyers, and they abuse it all to the fullest. I promise they don't need our support.
@@AGirlofYesterday Good luck to you and your young career. I myself have been working in the film industry for 43 years now. Never have I been hired by a writer or an actor. A word of advice to someone who is just getting started. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
@@mattdorsey2244 But the hand we're biting isn't feeding us. It's starving us. That's the whole point. The studios are digging their own graves with the false belief that anyone off the street can write as well as a professional. If you still believe that after 43 years, you must be either a ceo or an accountant.
People need to remember how these strikers behaved during the pandemic. If you do then you'd NEVER support these strikers as they shat on everyone during the pandemic, so let's show them the same gratitude.
How so?
They were allowed to work through the pandemic while small business and restaurants were forced to close. Many of those small shops were never able to open again. These film workers seemed to enjoy playing pandemic and calling themselves essential workers while ignoring the destruction going on all around them. They are arrogant, selfish and dangerous people who take their marching orders from their unions, who in turn take their orders from government officials and big pharma. I hope they lose everything. We would do better without them.
@@dejon007 Read up on the Hollywood covid vaccination mandates.........Non of these strikers actually spoke up about how it is inhumane to force a vaccination on a person, which if they didn't comply then they will lose their jobs.
Also these strikers told us in the pandemic that we were "selfish" if we wanted to leave our homes and save our jobs, small businesses etc however these strikers was "essential workers" who was getting paid and talked down to anyone else that didn't want to lose their livelihoods.
These strikers deserve NO SUPPORT!
@@mattdorsey2244🤦🏽♂️
Excuse me but ALOT of work STOPPED for film workers. Your argument is disingenuous. Many people were able to work from home, unlike people who worked on set - do you have issues with them too?
Totally world effected... regarding this strike. I am from India.we are simply sitting.we don't know how can stop. That strike. We want normal days... it's happened like more than carona...
Aaaaand no sympathy in sight from most Americans either...
If there's a WRITERS STRIKE why is there still new movies coming out at the theatre?
Ai will take 95% of these jobs
I don't think they should get royalties at all
The studios have enough to wait you out, They are still making money.
Stop being unreasonable and the studios will settle, Why is AI such a big deal?
When my local liberal news channel doesn't even mention this woke Hollywood strike you know it has come to non woke American didn't care and now even liberal news doesn't care😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody cares
TRUE Hollywood is dead and gone anyway and has been for years . There is no longer great QUALITY writing at all . Hollywood is nothing but a HELL HOLE straight from the pit of HELL . I will not miss anything coming out of Hollywood .
I see Gallup reliable statical analysis is being deployed....
Boycott streaming services! Cancel your subscription now!
Why?
Strike the courts
The big tech companies are manipulation the comments section.
Time for the writers to go back to the day they were "employees" of the studio.. No more residuals... No more dramatic 25,000 per episode checks.. You will get a biweekly paycheck like any Joe Shmo (above middle class for southern California) and benefits... This will give the writers a sustainable financial life.. Writers will not be wealthy or famous, but they will be able to take care of themselves and family...
Hahaha that’s what you get Commies
❤A.I.❤
My mind
Who cares? For the last decade the vast majority of the movies coming out of Hollywood have been crap! Im so sick of superhero movies, remakes, sequels and prequels I can't stand it. There is nothing original or creative anymore.
Honestly, this strike can last forever.
Health care workers stand with you!
No, we don’t.
Not a chance 😂😂😂
I agree with Actors joining the strike support and non-use of artificial intelligence, except not when they come asking for more money. What scum bags. You literally have actors and actresses, making millions upon millions if not tens of millions of dollars per film. While the writers that write everything they act out are making $100,000 for the movie. If they are lucky. The writers are going to get screwed in the end. The studios will make an agreement with the actors to not use AI and CGI on them. Give them more money per film and have AI write the films/shows. Actors are scumbags. They see an opportunity to get money and jump on board and are not going to be able to work anyway with writers on strike. Like I said why are they asking for more money when they already make 10 times more than writers who are asking for more money. The Actors are going to end up screwing the writers in the end.
come on that "poll" is laffable :D :D :D :D
These people need to go find real jobs.
The writers seem to think they are all powerful and capable of running this show.....but if it dies a slow and painful death it's not going to make a singe ounce of difference to me and many other "consumers" out there. It's first world problems and it is disgusting that they are acting like a bunch of spoiled children. Good riddance and may there be a new guild that rises out of the ashes with people who have a new perspective on value for money and what it means to take personal responsibility for their actions. This is union power tripping (as usual).
I hope Hollywood is destroyed forever! I hope AI destroys careers the acting sucks anyway there's only a few truly worthy
We've heard and not cared...liberal woke drama isnt American drama. These people cant even chant USA in their picket lines.