my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero. I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Carlos Extromolo if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks -Tyler
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology. I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us. Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
My grandpa spent much of his life welding for Phillips 66 pipeline. He and my grandma moved around a lot following the pipeline. Mostly through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. That was back in the 50's and 60's. I remember his name embroidered above the pocket of his shirts and the creases in the slacks of his gray uniforms. And his Phillips 66 flatbed truck he drove with the big welder on back. He always had a shop where they lived, with a little fridge full of beer and cans of Prince Albert laying around. Wish I could go back there.
John Smith I know it’s been a while since this comment but it brought back memories of me visiting my great uncles shop back in the 70’s. I bet you can remember how it smelled. My uncles shop had wood floors and smelled like mildew on cutting oil. It was dark, damp and awesome.
Cheryl I am as a pipe welder with 40 yrs of exp. So I know a little about welding . You did a nice job . The guy at the beginning of video could be my twin . Really
Anthony Mcintosh I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!! R.O.B./
I did a year in Watford City, ND as project safety manager. Welders are probably the best shit talkers in the industry. They gave me hell just for being a safety guy but it was all in good fun and making the best out of -20 degree temps. From now on I'll keep my ass in south TX.
Sean Gibson It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these welders, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS! We worked in Tioga so you should watch my video... Don't Be H8ters, Because We're 798er's We got to -45° ... it was freezing!
Sean Gibson It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these guys, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS!
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
It always cracks me up how people post these videos like it's hard to weld pipe or something. Give me a clue stick is so easy and most of all 6010 and 7018 down-hand. Yes I was a welder for 24 years and now a CWI of over 15, yeah I know.
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
Frank Lyons I used to work in a garbage truck manufacturing plant with a girl named Cordy who could out weld any guy there. Including me, it’s a well known fact some women have a steadier hand than most men.
George Mooyman Once the pipeline or a section of it is completed, and before pressure testing, cleaning pigs, which are just big foam sponge type bullets are pushed down the line by pressure. This gets rid of most of the loose debris. After that, once the line taken into service, filters at the receiving ends will be monitored regularly until "normal" levels of foreign material are occuring. In cross pipeline welding of line pipe, weld procedures never have a need for back grinding or welding, internal welding work) The only internal welding related operations is the use of an x-ray head on crawler to x-ray each weld as after it is completed. This is now more and more being replaced by ultrasonics.
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
I could have spent the entire day here asking hundreds of questions! Like do they bend the pipe on site or at the mill. Where do they do the epoxy coating. How do they weld the bottom of the pipe, how many passes, how many electrodes do they go through in a shift, do they cost the welded area before back filling?? This is so cool!
I am working on another video that shows how we bend the pipe...it's done right on the right of way...very cool indeed...The pipe comes coated already and then laborers coat the welds after they are xrayed...it depends on the size of the pipe on how many passes they will do....
Ha I just took a job as a pipe fitter helper. If you're not familiar with the material it's so easy to just ask questions all day long. Hell it's going on my second month and all I've learned is that I know nothing haha
I have actually seen these guys in action. Very impressive. I believe they were 329. Pipelines . they were replacing faulty pipeline in California . I was on fire prevention.
Your camera takes great video. Looked like 60 fps, Very lifelike and bright. I bought some 5/32 7018 last month. That stuff really makes a big bead and lasts much longer than 1/8". Running 200 amps on the ol' ac/D.C. Buzz box.
Northern Sweden Welding Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
Larry Hottle they weld all the joints downhill. one starts the arc at the top ,the other picks it up and they race downhill where they meet and say all sorts of nasty mean things about construction welders.
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
My father and another welder would burn 60lbs of stick in a 10hr shift. Pass the weld around to him and load another stick because he had to catch the bead as it was heading back to him. Poetry in motion for 10 hours.
trying to make every weld better than the last, its like a constant competition ...against yourself and then ...one day...you're overqualified and start your own shop...but nobody can afford your shop rate...except NASA
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
the pancake masks are lightweight and also when you are out on a pipeline like that they give a little bit more of a breeze, if there is any, to the sides of your face.... They serve all the necessary needs.
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
Cheryl Ann Lager I just saw a post on facebook from Charley Project featuring Shaun. Was foul play suspected in Shaun's disappearance? Is it possible he just walked away from his life and started fresh somewhere? I read his DL and debit card were missing. Haven't the authorities tracked any spending? I share ALL missing children and eldery info., but when it's a healthy adult, I ask questions before I share the info.
This was a strange case, as we last saw Shaun on the job in Gillette, WY. There was a possibility drugs were involved, all I know is they found his truck and he has yet to be found...very sad for the friends and family involved.
Ivor Davies Every weld is visually inspected and then xrayed. .. the percentage depends on the classification of the line...example being transmission specs is 100% and low pressure gathering is not...
Levi, I am currently training at a school to become certified in Welding and graduation is near. I am excited but nervous about getting into this industry, mostly excited. What can I expect besides tons of hard work? Any advice?
Bocktai5 Are you learning to weld pipe? That is a whole different ballgame, than being able to just weld. These guys make it look easy...as many helpers that get into it find out! The work is booming right now and should for the next few years. We are union, and travel all over the US, times with family are lean, but the paychecks are big. Good Luck to you...
Cheryl Levi the class I'm taking is training us to be pipe welders. They teach us groove welding from all the positions first then let us get to pipe. Right now I'm on 4g SMAW and will learn flux core and mig soon. Then get to pipe
Bocktai5 Okay...that says more...my advice is apply to the Pipeliners Local 798 Union once you feel confident to weld downhill pipe. That's really the only way to go...my husband has been doing this for over 40 years and is one of the best in the industry. We are soon to retire and looking forward to staying home...as I said family life on the road is extremely difficult, raising children especially, trying to keep a wife interested in all the travel. The people on the pipeline become your family and you'll form strong bonds, making friends for life! Where are you located?
Georgia, My school has strong ties with the local 798 and I was definitely considering that if I can get a pipe cert, Though what is great about welding is theres so much opportunity and places to work for. One place I am really interested in is Aero Bridge Works.
Was a field service heavy equipment mechanic for many years. Anyone that can hang out in the southern heat all day having molten metal rain down on them is pretty tough! What's a union pipliner get an hour now?
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
What's so hard? - a little uphill, a little down hill and a little overhead, a snap! And, up to now, I thought the whole pipe spun at just the right speed.
David Alard The 798 is out of Tulsa Oklahoma they have a welding school, other than that you just show up at the job site every morning ready to go and if you get lucky they put you to work
Make application at our union...Pipeliners Local 798....you must be able to actually weld pipe...or start as a helper (not a bad wage either) and learn as you go...
Cheryl Levi I took a couple classes in vocational school before graduating. Went military an out it on the back burner. Few years later and at 27 would love to start as a helper and work my way up. Only question as a helper would the money still be livable? Willing to go anywhere as long as I'm learning. Passport and Twic card in hand
Hubbcityprocleaners The work is booming right now and they are taking applications for helpers online...pay is decent, but traveling around the country is expensive so you have to travel with a 5th wheel or regular trailer to save on rent and make your own food...Helpers can make around $2,000 to $3,000 a week depending on hours and the hourly wage!
Cheryl Levi awesome and thanks for any help and being from sc I looked up your union and it seemed good but I've never been a member of a union anywhere so unsure as to how it all works. Like I said I know you probably get asked all this a million times but I will literally do whatever it takes to make it just got know someone that's "in". Not for a hand out but just simple guidance. So again any help I truly thank you for it as I have looked into this for years
Hubbcityprocleaners Have you filled out a helper application yet? It's quite simple to do, put as much experience that you can down....I'll try to see what else I can do to help you!
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
If the job does not state FR shirts we generally don't wear them...a good welding shirt (MADE IN THE USA) are made by Martin Brothers . . .they use mountain cloth and are very durable! 1-800-822-0798...tell em Cheryl sent you!
+James Jenkins I found the best starch is the liquid that you add to the rinse in your machine...and then I line dry them which makes them stiff and free of wrinkles!
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
May I ask how did your dad passed away?
@@abelguerrero144 don't be rude now the man said in the job and that's all u need to know
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@@arozverde3994 I was wondering if he passed away due welding fumes which really concerns me
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
@@MRJ37welp it’s not like I wan get that old 😅
Looks like a crew that gets a lot done and works well together
You could say they... Work weld together....
taylor bryan booooo
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
My husband has had an exceptionally long career as a welder..now retired, still pumping out amazing creations! Good luck young man...
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero.
I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Heros don't do it for money. Js
well I am a pipeline welder east side of the states with 6 years of experience as a welder good job on the video
I'm completely new to welding. I've only had my everlast welder for a while but completely love it. How do I get started getting a welding job?
I bought an everlast welder last summer and am practicing as much as I can. How's the best way to get a welding job?
Carlos Extromolo
make an application to the Pipeliners Local 798 union..they will be selling books as there is a lot of work starting up!
Carlos Extromolo
if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks
-Tyler
that's my dream job. I hope some day I'll be giving the opportunity to actualize this dream of becoming a pipeline professional welder
Been steadily improving my welds on stick and mig through my shop class, one day I hope to work on the pipes
Never give up homie you can only keep improving! Welding is a great trade to get into
Me too. It’s amazing how much I have improved in literally 4 days.
FJB
I am a pipeline welder ! 30 years and still burning rod !
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
Never seen a 798er UP HERE IN WASHINGTON. There,s a reason why. You guys keep makeing the rules and big bucks. Lay that pipe. Have a good day.
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
It would be nice to actually see the weld beads they are doing
strafe777 they won't pass no kind of xray I can promise you that
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology.
I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us.
Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
strafe777, you could go getchya a block brush 'n go scrub some.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
Nothing special
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
No wonder they hate inspectors
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
My grandpa spent much of his life welding for Phillips 66 pipeline. He and my grandma moved around a lot following the pipeline. Mostly through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. That was back in the 50's and 60's. I remember his name embroidered above the pocket of his shirts and the creases in the slacks of his gray uniforms. And his Phillips 66 flatbed truck he drove with the big welder on back. He always had a shop where they lived, with a little fridge full of beer and cans of Prince Albert laying around. Wish I could go back there.
John Smith
I know it’s been a while since this comment but it brought back memories of me visiting my great uncles shop back in the 70’s. I bet you can remember how it smelled. My uncles shop had wood floors and smelled like mildew on cutting oil. It was dark, damp and awesome.
That's badass!!! Thank God for grandparents willing to roll there sleeves up and do it!!!!✌👊😎❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💰💰💰
My favorite profession in the entire world. Rig Welder. Trying to get it all back again. Slowly but Shirley. But don't call me Shirley.
footage was so clear!
Cheryl I am as a pipe welder with 40 yrs of exp. So I know a little about welding . You did a nice job . The guy at the beginning of video could be my twin . Really
Dominick Gulizo
That's funny ... his name is Walter Ancell ... and he has a twin brother also!
That's crazy. All three should get together 😃
Great quality video! I would have never guessed you shot this on a phone!
Anthony Mcintosh
I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
I knew a couple of guys out of the 798. One of them lived around Shreveport.
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!!
R.O.B./
Learning pipe welding in trade school right now, can't wait to be able to start my career
0:07 is that the welders version of sword fighting?
Great memories, thank you.
I did a year in Watford City, ND as project safety manager. Welders are probably the best shit talkers in the industry. They gave me hell just for being a safety guy but it was all in good fun and making the best out of -20 degree temps. From now on I'll keep my ass in south TX.
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these welders, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS! We worked in Tioga so you should watch my video...
Don't Be H8ters, Because We're 798er's
We got to -45° ... it was freezing!
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these guys, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS!
Cummins for a backbone too. Nice video and cool to see the real deal.
I miss runnin pipeline offshore..good video!
Good weld billy, do that 10,000 more times please
the hood's speak for them selves
what do they say?
Eddie Banda i have one of those and am not welder🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wouldn't use it !!!!!!
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
3:46 We get it, pipe welders vape.
the title implies that this is the most extreme kind of pipeline welding or something??? Try welding oil pipeline in the ocean !!!
u did that and where?
shane ward lol uh well I saw another RUclips video haha
lol
God i wish i could have sex with the roughest men
Is that it?
It always cracks me up how people post these videos like it's hard to weld pipe or something. Give me a clue stick is so easy and most of all 6010 and 7018 down-hand.
Yes I was a welder for 24 years and now a CWI of over 15, yeah I know.
the one welding gig I would've like to go on before my disability/ retirement. 537 Boston
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
I gave up welding for a living to manage others in the industry. Can't beat a good crew of stick welders! All weather, any position and anywhere!
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
I didn't know Toby Keith was a welder.
I've been a pipeline welding inspector and I have seen women weld as good or better than men
Frank Lyons How do they clean all the swarf and grinding out of the inside of the pipe?
George Mooyman with a Q-tip the kind that goes in your ear
Frank Lyons I used to work in a garbage truck manufacturing plant with a girl named Cordy who could out weld any guy there. Including me, it’s a well known fact some women have a steadier hand than most men.
George Mooyman
Once the pipeline or a section of it is completed, and before pressure testing, cleaning pigs, which are just big foam sponge type bullets are pushed down the line by pressure. This gets rid of most of the loose debris. After that, once the line taken into service, filters at the receiving ends will be monitored regularly until "normal" levels of foreign material are occuring. In cross pipeline welding of line pipe, weld procedures never have a need for back grinding or welding, internal welding work) The only internal welding related operations is the use of an x-ray head on crawler to x-ray each weld as after it is completed. This is now more and more being replaced by ultrasonics.
Frank Lyons 6
Never seen a welding hood like that before. Dope.
I think the actual construction of the rds that were made for you to use, the construction of the pipeline itself is a lil more exciting.
You bet it is. That's a big part of what I've done all these years. I'm a blasting foreman for the ROW and the ditch
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
I could have spent the entire day here asking hundreds of questions! Like do they bend the pipe on site or at the mill. Where do they do the epoxy coating. How do they weld the bottom of the pipe, how many passes, how many electrodes do they go through in a shift, do they cost the welded area before back filling?? This is so cool!
I am working on another video that shows how we bend the pipe...it's done right on the right of way...very cool indeed...The pipe comes coated already and then laborers coat the welds after they are xrayed...it depends on the size of the pipe on how many passes they will do....
I love it!! Its the little things that cause the largest problems
Ha I just took a job as a pipe fitter helper. If you're not familiar with the material it's so easy to just ask questions all day long. Hell it's going on my second month and all I've learned is that I know nothing haha
Jack Willis o 8th and 778 87u
Roger Klotz hellye
I have actually seen these guys in action. Very impressive. I believe they were 329. Pipelines . they were replacing faulty pipeline in California . I was on fire prevention.
Did you work the Grapevine with us?
@@CherylAnn798 we were out by the 33. And highway 5
@@CherylAnn798 I was with Tommy's water trucks
@@carlossantacruz6248 Of course...we loved working with all of you guys...it was a fun crew...crazy drive up that mountain...huh?
Great skills and great work ethic.
3G structural and pipe welding
man I'm 15 yrs in retired and miss it. El Nino is my welding name
michael El is that easy
Your camera takes great video. Looked like 60 fps, Very lifelike and bright. I bought some 5/32 7018 last month. That stuff really makes a big bead and lasts much longer than 1/8". Running 200 amps on the ol' ac/D.C. Buzz box.
I’m surprised no one is screaming about the apprentice passing him welding rods. Who knew that pipe could bend like that.
That's his helper....All Weldors have them...we are union...
@@CherylAnn798 yes I know this already.
How many people does it take to weld a pipe? Nice video by the way
Northern Sweden Welding
Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
Cheryl Ann Lager why does the welder need all the helpers and why do they sit in there truck all day watching movies🤣
Making some good money here and they deserve it !
Amen...hard work for sure
i think i worked with the guy in the silver single cab pick up here in pa his name was robert good guy
Robert Good Guy...that's a funny name...
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
You will,takes time.
What this pipe for? I can't recognize the insulation. Nice helmets, nice job, good guys! Thank You for show Us!
Epoxy coated, not insulation. I would have thought Uphand welding would be required.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
This pipe runs from Canada to Mexico for transporting illegal aliens in pods like the ones at the drive thru at the bank.
Are the rods actually that big on the line ?
That's a cherry welding helmet where did you folks buy it from
currently going to school for welding in hopes of pipeline welding got any tips for me?
As an old ASME certified pipe welder, I cannot believe these guys are stick welding downhill!
Larry Hottle they weld all the joints downhill. one starts the arc at the top ,the other picks it up and they race downhill where they meet and say all sorts of nasty mean things about construction welders.
Great video! Lol at the grinder comments some people have no clue
Right? Clueless is a good word on this one
Cheryl Levi ,
Hi. What are the pay rates for helper and welder?? Great video.
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Gosu Vu
No ... we are union ... so some of us are sent in from the union hall and some are contracted by the welder Foreman! thanks ...
Good job guys keep working hard
recluse Wyoming is were i broke out in pipe line welding. lived in Gillette for 2yrs
My father and another welder would burn 60lbs of stick in a 10hr shift. Pass the weld around to him and load another stick because he had to catch the bead as it was heading back to him. Poetry in motion for 10 hours.
BS. I worked in a pipe fab shop for 20 years. It took me about a week to go through a 50lb can of rod.
May jet rods in a shipyard.
But never on a pipe job
12 hour shifts? spending all day staring at a dime sized ball of fire? What goes through your mind in a day like that?
Gerald Posey
It's all about the BENJAMINS.... $$$$$$$$
a big pay at the end of the day
trying to make every weld better than the last, its like a constant competition ...against yourself and then ...one day...you're overqualified and start your own shop...but nobody can afford your shop rate...except NASA
Sleep lol
During those shifts I think to myself should I buy the SL 550 Amg Coupe Mercedez Benz or the Dodge Ram Lariat right?
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
The hoods they are using, pretty unique
Alot of work plus it needs to be cleaned up and x-rayed to determine proper welding prior to sealing before setting into ground.
I dont understand the video description.... some dude is missing?
Do they can pass the x rays welding downhill??
the pancake masks are lightweight and also when you are out on a pipeline like that they give a little bit more of a breeze, if there is any, to the sides of your face.... They serve all the necessary needs.
Most 798 welders are either left or right handed and don't switch back and forth. They are usually paired left and right
what's the best way to get into pipeline welding ? that looks like northern weld co. Colorado btw
What type of fast freeze electrodes were they using for the gap?
Great video by the way
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
Have any of you hands worked with O. C. Abby Bridges or Don Bridges or Danny (Moose) Bridges out of 798 Tulsa OKC. ?
haha I'm in Gillette and want to do some welding for the pipes. good video.
what fit-up/ bevel angle do they use on these pipelines
Tell that spacer Dannyboy from Texas says working hard! Worked with him bout 4 years back
Are you talking about Pipe Baby?
Those " shields " say it all , serious dogs .
Why start on the wrong side,1.04?,
We had three bead hands on that job...never really looked at it that way...I'll have to ask the hubby...and get back to you...
@@CherylAnn798 as long as company people are good &inspector is good. ...
It's amazing how many "welders" don't know the difference between a pancake and a waffle, or 2 hole and a - hole. Lol...
@@michaelwaggoner8895 Right? Someone left a comment and wondered if I'd ever been 2 holed? Haha...I have good humor and know how to "2 hole"...
@@CherylAnn798 sorry I didn't intend any thing like that ....
It good to see Gatehouse in this video welding.
Cheryl Ann Lager I just saw a post on facebook from Charley Project featuring Shaun. Was foul play suspected in Shaun's disappearance? Is it possible he just walked away from his life and started fresh somewhere? I read his DL and debit card were missing. Haven't the authorities tracked any spending? I share ALL missing children and eldery info., but when it's a healthy adult, I ask questions before I share the info.
This was a strange case, as we last saw Shaun on the job in Gillette, WY. There was a possibility drugs were involved, all I know is they found his truck and he has yet to be found...very sad for the friends and family involved.
Is that LH all the way thru or just after the stringer??
By any chance at .45 was Terry. Use to work at ksi Bakersfield California?
Israel Martinez
No...that welder is Chris Jost...the other is Mike Strickland
While you're busy welding somebody is stealing your truck
when welds are examined is it just visual or are every weld x-rayed?? also what percentage of welds have to redone?
Ivor Davies
Every weld is visually inspected and then xrayed. .. the percentage depends on the classification of the line...example being transmission specs is 100% and low pressure gathering is not...
hi Cheryl thanks for very good reply
Man , it just don't get no better than that ! that's how it's supposed to be!
Levi, I am currently training at a school to become certified in Welding and graduation is near. I am excited but nervous about getting into this industry, mostly excited. What can I expect besides tons of hard work? Any advice?
Bocktai5
Are you learning to weld pipe? That is a whole different ballgame, than being able to just weld. These guys make it look easy...as many helpers that get into it find out! The work is booming right now and should for the next few years. We are union, and travel all over the US, times with family are lean, but the paychecks are big. Good Luck to you...
Cheryl Levi the class I'm taking is training us to be pipe welders. They teach us groove welding from all the positions first then let us get to pipe. Right now I'm on 4g SMAW and will learn flux core and mig soon. Then get to pipe
Bocktai5
Okay...that says more...my advice is apply to the Pipeliners Local 798 Union once you feel confident to weld downhill pipe. That's really the only way to go...my husband has been doing this for over 40 years and is one of the best in the industry. We are soon to retire and looking forward to staying home...as I said family life on the road is extremely difficult, raising children especially, trying to keep a wife interested in all the travel. The people on the pipeline become your family and you'll form strong bonds, making friends for life! Where are you located?
Georgia, My school has strong ties with the local 798 and I was definitely considering that if I can get a pipe cert, Though what is great about welding is theres so much opportunity and places to work for. One place I am really interested in is Aero Bridge Works.
Why did not used an Orbital TIG welder such as AMI, is that a better weld than TIG?
yes
Alex Choe conditions and production
well i don't know anything about this kind of work.but i do see the exact same supervisors standing around watching WORK :(
Was a field service heavy equipment mechanic for many years. Anyone that can hang out in the southern heat all day having molten metal rain down on them is pretty tough! What's a union pipliner get an hour now?
Try Louisiana in the summer
@@dominickgulizo8473 been there done that!
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
You got to respect these old welders, But now they're coming out with automatic welders that do just as good job.
James Jones
Automatics are great for flat and straight... we still need our welders with trucks for the hills...and for tying in the loose ends!
James Jones automatic welders can't tell great jokes, get in bar fights, and fart on you first thing in the morning.
@@CherylAnn798 Not to mention it takes 2 welders to make sure the automatics turn out acceptable quality work.
What's so hard? - a little uphill, a little down hill and a little overhead, a snap! And, up to now, I thought the whole pipe spun at just the right speed.
What parta Oklahoma ya,all from....?
Large Rooster
The Local 798 union is in Tulsa, OK... but we live in Durango, Colorado!
Large Rooster they are all from Ball Knob Arkansas lol
Large Rooster 185 Sacramento
Any chance Justin from Arizona is on that crew?
my step dad is on in the 798 union
wow
I think I've worked with them first two guys before, you two ever worked for L-con in channel view
thats freaking bad ass!
is there a apprenticeship program for this? if so where you guys from? I'm
David Alard The 798 is out of Tulsa Oklahoma they have a welding school, other than that you just show up at the job site every morning ready to go and if you get lucky they put you to work
how do I get into pipeline? I've always wanted to weld for pipeline.
Make application at our union...Pipeliners Local 798....you must be able to actually weld pipe...or start as a helper (not a bad wage either) and learn as you go...
Cheryl Levi I took a couple classes in vocational school before graduating. Went military an out it on the back burner. Few years later and at 27 would love to start as a helper and work my way up. Only question as a helper would the money still be livable? Willing to go anywhere as long as I'm learning. Passport and Twic card in hand
Hubbcityprocleaners
The work is booming right now and they are taking applications for helpers online...pay is decent, but traveling around the country is expensive so you have to travel with a 5th wheel or regular trailer to save on rent and make your own food...Helpers can make around $2,000 to $3,000 a week depending on hours and the hourly wage!
Cheryl Levi awesome and thanks for any help and being from sc I looked up your union and it seemed good but I've never been a member of a union anywhere so unsure as to how it all works. Like I said I know you probably get asked all this a million times but I will literally do whatever it takes to make it just got know someone that's "in". Not for a hand out but just simple guidance. So again any help I truly thank you for it as I have looked into this for years
Hubbcityprocleaners
Have you filled out a helper application yet? It's quite simple to do, put as much experience that you can down....I'll try to see what else I can do to help you!
I would love a job like that
cody Fish honestly you wouldnt
Why
Its a f...ing hard job
cody Fis
No no you would not
Lol, that's my dad at the beginning of this video.
He's the best! That's why it has a million views! Hi Joe!
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
Can’t wait to break out of the shop and do some REAL welding!
what kind of FR shirts do they use? i need a good one. thanks
If the job does not state FR shirts we generally don't wear them...a good welding shirt (MADE IN THE USA) are made by Martin Brothers . . .they use mountain cloth and are very durable! 1-800-822-0798...tell em Cheryl sent you!
+Cheryl Levi Thank you! I'll check them out!
Any FR is good, it's all about the starch
michael smith how do I starch it
+James Jenkins
I found the best starch is the liquid that you add to the rinse in your machine...and then I line dry them which makes them stiff and free of wrinkles!