The whole installation of previous job is screaming "i know a guy who can do it cheaper" vs the proper way of guy with knowledge, expertise in the same field.. nice new installation arrow team..🎉
Yeah, it's incredible that someone would use corrugated pipe and duct tape, make the slope go up and down, AND completely block the flow with deck screws. It's almost like someone created that system to be the example of how not to do it.
Great video, answers all the questions I had! The house I bought has what I describe as a "moat" built around the addition with a poorly built rock wall creating a space between the wall and house, with absolutely 0 drainage, or gutters on the addition! It is a disaster when it rains to say the least and I couldn't believe an inspector signed off on that addition. This is the exact setup I am going to run through the moat to drain it and pick up the gutters I now need to get installed!
Looks great should have spoke to the neighbor about that drain on there side to run it to the field wile u already have it open so it doesn’t fill the patio
In the first part of your video I saw the system the previous contractor's put in and I was like "okay, I can at least see what they were going for". Then I saw the deck screws 🤣.
Do y’all have termite issues there? The turf was installed above the slab and in Louisiana we would not be able to get an inspection with anything above the slab. Thanks for great video
Thanks for sharing the video. You did really nice work. Used the best drainage pipe "Octane", Burrito wrapped the pipe and stone (and even stapled it shut-shows you take pride in your work), and even laid fresh sod afterwards as the cherry on top. That's quality work. Now what does one do though if the french drain is for a basement and cant slope down the drain, but can only slope up?
Great job! Would you ever recommend putting gravel to the surface to catch rain runoff as well as water in the ground? Also, would you ever be concerned about mice/ animals. Getting into the end where the water exits? Blessings to you and your family
It’s not only the low bid but is the scope of work clear & the same for all contractors bidding, and is the homeowner supervising the install … low bidders can be a good contractor
These systems are compulsory in my country, Im surprised USA its not. They do all this work and the neighbours drain is just running to the ground. Maybe they should had spoke to the neighbour about connecting his spouting to the system for everyones home. Great work though. I have a identical system and glad to say my pipes are facing to the exit point.
If you’re trying to move surface water then you will need to put drain basins in the low spots where that water is collecting. French drains will not evacuate surface water quickly.
I'm not in the Tampa area. I would otherwise call you. But I have talk to a few contractors in my area--CLOWNS around the RVA area and I'm very very leery about them. Because from talking to them I think I would end up with a system just like the one you had to scrap. Which would be a waste of money and make me want to put a french drain up somebody butt..I have watched quite a few RUclips videos and I am about ready to tackle this thing myself. The only thing I'm still not quite comfortable with is how to slope the trench correctly. My current problem(s) is that I have pooling water in my yard that seems to be coming from a couple of my neighbor's yards directly down to my back door steps and then over a few days the water seeping into the basement and into the ground and the whole backyard is like the " bank of a creek" or a "fishing pond" just mushy for weeks. My biggest DIY hastened is how to properly slope that trench. Is there anything you would recommend additional on how to properly do it.
Good job, video, and explanation! Couple quick questions: 1- To save pipe and maybe a couple bucks,$ Could you have joined (Y'd) the 2 discharges [AFTER THE FD converted from perforated 'collection' to solid 'drain' ? 2- If desired, add a couple of surface drains into the gutter extension drain (solid) pipe? NOT being critical-- Honestly curious! (edit:typo fix)
Yes, possibly would need to run a 6” pipe after the Wye tie in, depends on volume. No need to add basins if there was no low points or pooling water, FD also collects surface water just little a little slower.
@mdnt_ramble7 Thanks for the reply! After I read it, I went back an re-watched the vid and DUH! Around 6:20 you covered that very topic! Shoulda paid closer attention! ( or NOT watched it at 3:am !!) 😅 Anyway, it was just as good the second time!! Again, great job and video!! Thanks again!
@@GMan-yv8cb **note that’s just my personal opinion I shared, I didn’t make this video nor have any affiliation to the creator, having installed 100’s of systems and definitely have had to go back for remediation of my own work, I Didn’t quite make 6 min into the video. But hope your questions were answered.
@@mdnt_ramble7 OK. No Prob. It actually quite refreshing to have A short, pleasant, intelligent conversation without all the craziness of ... (take your pick) the world, the internet, etc... 😉
I have pooling water in my backyard that seems to be coming from a couple of my neighbor's yards directly down to my back door steps and then I believe the water is seeping into the basement and the whole backyard is like the "creek bed" or a" fishing pond"- just soggy for weeks. The few contractors in this area RVA that i have talked to I'm very leery about them. Because from talking to them I think I would end up with a system just like the one you had to scrap. Which would be a waste of money and make me want to put a french drain up somebody butt. I have watched quite a few RUclips videos and about ready to tackle this thing myself. My biggest uncertainty is I'm not comfortable with how to properly slope the trench. For example: how much fall should be on the pipe....should the "SAME" amount of fall be on the entire 10' of pipe before the next 10' of pipe start to fall 1.5" to 2.5 "
@@drummerkidmorlock5858 If your using HDPE plastic pipe then no it doesn’t mater but if your using PVC pipe it really depends on how much ground heave you have in the winter.
clay... you lentionned it at the end of the video xD In fact I have a clay soil and I was looking into options how to improve the drainage. when it rains my garden becomes a swamp... even though we have a small river running right in the back of our garden
@@alexouretski115 Not sure what you mean by a storm water pit but it doesn’t sound necessary. This system has 3 access points, the discharge end, the clean out at ground level and the downspout leaf filter clean out. In my line of work i’m lucky if there’s one clean out on an existing system that needs to be flushed/jetted.
If you have sdr 35 perforated pipe would you use that the same way as the frechdrain man blue perforated pipe? Should it be on small bed of rocks the burrito wrapped?
We don’t like using pvc perforated pipe for French drains because there is not enough inlet on the pipe. Corrugated is far superior for yard drainage. It’s a shame that it has gotten such a bad reputation because of poor installation practices and bad quality material being used.
SDR [x] is just a pressure rating. Generally you're looking for DWV thin wall pipe; basically make sure it's not that foam core stuff or the thicker walled types like Schedule 40. Lowes and Home Depot both carry fittings designed for DWV thin wall pipe if you need them. Lowes sells 10 feet of 4" thin wall DWV PVC pipe for about $21 which comes with a bell on one end (female). You can attach the male end of another pipe into it for a perfect snug fit. The male ends will fit into other connectors like couplings or catch basin openings, so you may need to cut that bell off the pipe with a saw to fit it.
@@WigglesTheDuck thanks for the write up man. I appreciate it but I need something stronger. My drainage is under the slab that will have various weight on it so I want it to hold up. Thin wall just isn't the way to go. I know SDR35 or schedule 40 will work
I intend to drain my gutters but am unsure about french drains for the gable ends. The basement has water at the bottom, maybe a foot (often lower) from the basement floor. I'm not convinced water would be coming all the way down the soil just to enter at the bottom. I mean, it could be, but with an 83 year old house it seems just as likely the joint between floor and wall isn't good and I'm seeing ground water, not rainwater! I don't know, I go back and forth on this. I suppose I could put the french drains in and worse case, rip them out later if what's really needed is to trench out all around, down to the bottom of the walls and fortify them there. Walls are 7ft. and that dig won't happen with hand shovels. How do you legit diagnose something like this? Do you ever work on old houses?
Im not a fan of connection of the downspouts to PVC, yes i understand the reasoning, but i also understand home owners who give zero ducks because coming up with payment was all they understand, But maintenance is always a problem in a system like this, just look at gutter guards, yes they stop debris from going in, but not from building up on the screens, so someone still has to maintain the system, Having a sealed system like PVC going up to the roofline is no bueno if in fact it gets clogged...at least your standard aluminum gutter systems are not sealed so eventually the water can drain from the seams... I always think the pro standard of french drains is you never put dirt back on top no matter the fabric, the drain must have rocks all the to the surface...
Saying pro over and over while throwing dirt from the trench, back into the trench and not using any sand and using garbage pvc, is wild. Also, did you cut the grass with a chainsaw and run out of tarp? lmao
You mad bro? Job came out good, system is functioning flawlessly and client was happy to not have his yard all torn up from the previous guys that ran off on him. Sand on top is only needed in clay/pour draining soil to help infiltration at a surface level. The French drain portion of this trench was filled back in with stone not dirt. The dirt was only put back in the trench that had the solid pipes. The rest was used to create a swale towards the French drain before SOD was put down. And garbage PVC? We are in the south so I don’t have to worry about freeze cycles. And last time I checked I bet your sanitary sewer lines in your home that remove your crap are all plumbed PVC if your structure was built after 1980 no matter where you live. Think before you comment. Smh.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions nope. I just laughed when you said "if you want to go pro" Currucated drainage pipes are less likely to crack, clog and are easy to work with, IMO. I guess PVC is fine if you're trying to save money and don't have to worry about tree roots. Sand always helps unless you're creating an open trench but you are correct. It's not a must for the southern states. I repect what you do. It's not an easy job by any stretch of the imagination. Especially at the beginning when you don't have every tool and all the heavy equipment but let your work show how pro you are. And give us more context. I'm sure most of us would rather watch longer videos. Hardly any of the drainage youtube channels go in-depth about the installation. Even French Drain could do better. I'll give you credit though. The video had decent editing and no corny music. 😂
@@steventhury8366 tree roots can still work their way through. Tile wrap is the best way to add another layer of protection. It depends on where you live but PVC pipe is likely to crack because it doesn't expand and contract when the ground freezes/thaws. PVC pipe is brittle. If tree roots works it's way next to the pipe and adds pressure to the pipe walls, it could crack it. if you are worried about damage from roots, copper sulfate would help a lot. A little expensive but worth it if you want to make the drainage system last as long as possible.
@@ApexxJimmy I can see if pvc cracks, roots will find their way in. I live in the north, so pvc not an option for me. I'm considering triple wall hpde rigid pipe. It's strong and will expand if water in it freezes. With corrugated, the trench needs to be perfectly flat, otherwise you create hills and valleys in the pipe. With rigid pipe, I can used pea rock to support it in any valley, a quick remedy. Compared to the FDM High Octane, triple wall hdpe would be about same price. Just got to make sure trenches are straight. Not 100% sure what route I'm doing. Still trying to learn
So long as the job gets done right what difference does it make? Also, Ryobi is what we call a sacrificial tool brand. I’m not using my good tools down in a muddy trench just to ruin them. Maybe when we have truck loads of disposable income but definitely not now✌️
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The whole installation of previous job is screaming "i know a guy who can do it cheaper" vs the proper way of guy with knowledge, expertise in the same field.. nice new installation arrow team..🎉
I couldn’t believe this nightmare when I first saw it! Whoever they were they completely destroyed the yard and system. Thank you for your support🙏
How much $ cheaper for a 100 foot tranche ???
Yeah, it's incredible that someone would use corrugated pipe and duct tape, make the slope go up and down, AND completely block the flow with deck screws. It's almost like someone created that system to be the example of how not to do it.
Great video, do you have any videos or tutorials on how to stitch the wrap that you use? Thanks!
👍 great clean up and fixing it correctly!
GREAT VIDEO MAN. not too many guys out there doing good drains. We install FDM pipes as well. Nice work.
Great video, answers all the questions I had! The house I bought has what I describe as a "moat" built around the addition with a poorly built rock wall creating a space between the wall and house, with absolutely 0 drainage, or gutters on the addition! It is a disaster when it rains to say the least and I couldn't believe an inspector signed off on that addition. This is the exact setup I am going to run through the moat to drain it and pick up the gutters I now need to get installed!
Looks great should have spoke to the neighbor about that drain on there side to run it to the field wile u already have it open so it doesn’t fill the patio
When you say you stitched the matting together, did you use staplers, or cable ties? - what exactly did you use?
Cheers; Matt.,
Thanks, exactly what i needed to plan my system
@@jackpestaner6925 💪
your install was for sure pro level.
@@MasterMindHandyMan Thank you! 😁
Thanks (from Canada) for clarifying when a surface drain might also be needed.
@@normcousineau Glad we could help 💪
In the first part of your video I saw the system the previous contractor's put in and I was like "okay, I can at least see what they were going for". Then I saw the deck screws 🤣.
good tips for beginning in drainage thanks, even stated the doos and not to doos . appreciated
@@mo-jojh4064 💪
Do y’all have termite issues there? The turf was installed above the slab and in Louisiana we would not be able to get an inspection with anything above the slab. Thanks for great video
Man thanks to your video I was able to make a huge job, thanks for the advice on everything
@@cristianrios7727 Glad the video could help!
What a great video and thanks for the details. :)
@svitroful 💪
Thanks for sharing the video. You did really nice work. Used the best drainage pipe "Octane", Burrito wrapped the pipe and stone (and even stapled it shut-shows you take pride in your work), and even laid fresh sod afterwards as the cherry on top. That's quality work.
Now what does one do though if the french drain is for a basement and cant slope down the drain, but can only slope up?
Sump pump it to higher level, you wouldn’t want it to be trying to drain back towards your foundation.
Great job!
Would you ever recommend putting gravel to the surface to catch rain runoff as well as water in the ground? Also, would you ever be concerned about mice/ animals. Getting into the end where the water exits?
Blessings to you and your family
It’s not only the low bid but is the scope of work clear & the same for all contractors bidding, and is the homeowner supervising the install … low bidders can be a good contractor
These systems are compulsory in my country, Im surprised USA its not. They do all this work and the neighbours drain is just running to the ground. Maybe they should had spoke to the neighbour about connecting his spouting to the system for everyones home. Great work though. I have a identical system and glad to say my pipes are facing to the exit point.
Drivit homes need these systems even more so than other types.
What do I do about pooling water? I really need some help
If you’re trying to move surface water then you will need to put drain basins in the low spots where that water is collecting. French drains will not evacuate surface water quickly.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions Thanks. Any recommendations?
I'm not in the Tampa area. I would otherwise call you. But I have talk to a few contractors in my area--CLOWNS around the RVA area and I'm very very leery about them. Because from talking to them I think I would end up with a system just like the one you had to scrap. Which would be a waste of money and make me want to put a french drain up somebody butt..I have watched quite a few RUclips videos and I am about ready to tackle this thing myself. The only thing I'm still not quite comfortable with is how to slope the trench correctly. My current problem(s) is that I have pooling water in my yard that seems to be coming from a couple of my neighbor's yards directly down to my back door steps and then over a few days the water seeping into the basement and into the ground and the whole backyard is like the " bank of a creek" or a "fishing pond" just mushy for weeks.
My biggest DIY hastened is how to properly slope that trench.
Is there anything you would recommend additional on how to properly do it.
Un trabajo excelente mi amigo. El primer trabajo estaba horrible y asta ganas de llorar daban saludos
Would have been nice if you showed us how to stitch the cloth.
great work.
Good job, video, and explanation!
Couple quick questions:
1- To save pipe and maybe a couple bucks,$
Could you have joined (Y'd) the 2 discharges [AFTER THE FD converted from perforated 'collection' to solid 'drain' ?
2- If desired, add a couple of surface drains into the gutter extension drain (solid) pipe?
NOT being critical--
Honestly curious!
(edit:typo fix)
Yes, possibly would need to run a 6” pipe after the Wye tie in, depends on volume. No need to add basins if there was no low points or pooling water, FD also collects surface water just little a little slower.
@mdnt_ramble7
Thanks for the reply!
After I read it, I went back an re-watched the vid and DUH!
Around 6:20 you covered that very topic! Shoulda paid closer attention! ( or NOT watched it at 3:am !!) 😅
Anyway, it was just as good the second time!!
Again, great job and video!!
Thanks again!
@@GMan-yv8cb **note that’s just my personal opinion I shared, I didn’t make this video nor have any affiliation to the creator, having installed 100’s of systems and definitely have had to go back for remediation of my own work, I Didn’t quite make 6 min into the video. But hope your questions were answered.
@@mdnt_ramble7
OK. No Prob.
It actually quite refreshing to have
A short, pleasant, intelligent conversation without all the craziness of ... (take your pick) the world, the internet, etc... 😉
I have pooling water in my backyard that seems to be coming from a couple of my neighbor's yards directly down to my back door steps and then I believe the water is seeping into the basement and the whole backyard is like the "creek bed" or a" fishing pond"- just soggy for weeks. The few contractors in this area RVA that i have talked to I'm very leery about them. Because from talking to them I think I would end up with a system just like the one you had to scrap. Which would be a waste of money and make me want to put a french drain up somebody butt. I have watched quite a few RUclips videos and about ready to tackle this thing myself. My biggest uncertainty is I'm not comfortable with how to properly slope the trench.
For example: how much fall should be on the pipe....should the "SAME" amount of fall be on the entire 10' of pipe before the next 10' of pipe start to fall 1.5" to 2.5 "
So if the frost line in my state is 30 inches, I need to go below that right??
@@drummerkidmorlock5858 If your using HDPE plastic pipe then no it doesn’t mater but if your using PVC pipe it really depends on how much ground heave you have in the winter.
What type of stitch tool did you use?
clay... you lentionned it at the end of the video xD
In fact I have a clay soil and I was looking into options how to improve the drainage.
when it rains my garden becomes a swamp...
even though we have a small river running right in the back of our garden
Why do you not install a stormwater pit to make the cleaning of any debris much easier than via that puny inspection outlet!
@@alexouretski115 Not sure what you mean by a storm water pit but it doesn’t sound necessary. This system has 3 access points, the discharge end, the clean out at ground level and the downspout leaf filter clean out. In my line of work i’m lucky if there’s one clean out on an existing system that needs to be flushed/jetted.
Isn’t the green pipe for sewage? Why no white PVC pipe?
When it comes to this no one really knows what is the right way and the wrong way everyone tells you something different.
If you have sdr 35 perforated pipe would you use that the same way as the frechdrain man blue perforated pipe? Should it be on small bed of rocks the burrito wrapped?
We don’t like using pvc perforated pipe for French drains because there is not enough inlet on the pipe. Corrugated is far superior for yard drainage. It’s a shame that it has gotten such a bad reputation because of poor installation practices and bad quality material being used.
“Chuck was here” 😂😂
Looks good but I would never put the dirt back on top of a wrap ;((( Just stones, sand and sod.
What kind of fittings do you use with SDR 35? I was hoping to use DWV with it but im getting conflicting info
SDR [x] is just a pressure rating. Generally you're looking for DWV thin wall pipe; basically make sure it's not that foam core stuff or the thicker walled types like Schedule 40. Lowes and Home Depot both carry fittings designed for DWV thin wall pipe if you need them. Lowes sells 10 feet of 4" thin wall DWV PVC pipe for about $21 which comes with a bell on one end (female). You can attach the male end of another pipe into it for a perfect snug fit. The male ends will fit into other connectors like couplings or catch basin openings, so you may need to cut that bell off the pipe with a saw to fit it.
@@WigglesTheDuck thanks for the write up man. I appreciate it but I need something stronger. My drainage is under the slab that will have various weight on it so I want it to hold up. Thin wall just isn't the way to go. I know SDR35 or schedule 40 will work
That first install was nuts. 🫣🤷🏼♂️👎
I intend to drain my gutters but am unsure about french drains for the gable ends. The basement has water at the bottom, maybe a foot (often lower) from the basement floor.
I'm not convinced water would be coming all the way down the soil just to enter at the bottom. I mean, it could be, but with an 83 year old house it seems just as likely the joint between floor and wall isn't good and I'm seeing ground water, not rainwater!
I don't know, I go back and forth on this. I suppose I could put the french drains in and worse case, rip them out later if what's really needed is to trench out all around, down to the bottom of the walls and fortify them there. Walls are 7ft. and that dig won't happen with hand shovels.
How do you legit diagnose something like this? Do you ever work on old houses?
Im not a fan of connection of the downspouts to PVC, yes i understand the reasoning, but i also understand home owners who give zero ducks because coming up with payment was all they understand,
But maintenance is always a problem in a system like this, just look at gutter guards, yes they stop debris from going in, but not from building up on the screens, so someone still has to maintain the system,
Having a sealed system like PVC going up to the roofline is no bueno if in fact it gets clogged...at least your standard aluminum gutter systems are not sealed so eventually the water can drain from the seams...
I always think the pro standard of french drains is you never put dirt back on top no matter the fabric, the drain must have rocks all the to the surface...
Saying pro over and over while throwing dirt from the trench, back into the trench and not using any sand and using garbage pvc, is wild.
Also, did you cut the grass with a chainsaw and run out of tarp? lmao
You mad bro? Job came out good, system is functioning flawlessly and client was happy to not have his yard all torn up from the previous guys that ran off on him. Sand on top is only needed in clay/pour draining soil to help infiltration at a surface level. The French drain portion of this trench was filled back in with stone not dirt. The dirt was only put back in the trench that had the solid pipes. The rest was used to create a swale towards the French drain before SOD was put down. And garbage PVC? We are in the south so I don’t have to worry about freeze cycles. And last time I checked I bet your sanitary sewer lines in your home that remove your crap are all plumbed PVC if your structure was built after 1980 no matter where you live. Think before you comment. Smh.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions
nope. I just laughed when you said "if you want to go pro"
Currucated drainage pipes are less likely to crack, clog and are easy to work with, IMO.
I guess PVC is fine if you're trying to save money and don't have to worry about tree roots.
Sand always helps unless you're creating an open trench but you are correct. It's not a must for the southern states.
I repect what you do. It's not an easy job by any stretch of the imagination. Especially at the beginning when you don't have every tool and all the heavy equipment but let your work show how pro you are.
And give us more context.
I'm sure most of us would rather watch longer videos. Hardly any of the drainage
youtube channels go in-depth about the installation.
Even French Drain could do better.
I'll give you credit though. The video had decent editing and no corny music. 😂
@@ApexxJimmyIf you glue pvc, how are tree roots getting in there?
@@steventhury8366 tree roots can still work their way through. Tile wrap is the best way to add another layer of protection.
It depends on where you live but PVC pipe is likely to crack because it doesn't expand and contract when the ground freezes/thaws. PVC pipe is brittle. If tree roots works it's way next to the pipe and adds pressure to the pipe walls, it could crack it.
if you are worried about damage from roots, copper sulfate would help a lot. A little expensive but worth it if you want to make the drainage system last as long as possible.
@@ApexxJimmy I can see if pvc cracks, roots will find their way in.
I live in the north, so pvc not an option for me. I'm considering triple wall hpde rigid pipe. It's strong and will expand if water in it freezes. With corrugated, the trench needs to be perfectly flat, otherwise you create hills and valleys in the pipe. With rigid pipe, I can used pea rock to support it in any valley, a quick remedy. Compared to the FDM High Octane, triple wall hdpe would be about same price. Just got to make sure trenches are straight.
Not 100% sure what route I'm doing. Still trying to learn
Corrugated no good.
If I had a contractor show up with ryobi tools I’d send them packing asap.
So long as the job gets done right what difference does it make? Also, Ryobi is what we call a sacrificial tool brand. I’m not using my good tools down in a muddy trench just to ruin them. Maybe when we have truck loads of disposable income but definitely not now✌️
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions just busting balls bud
I’ve seen better finishing work. Those sod seams are inexcusable