Was Hip-Hop created by only Black Americans (FBA)? with Tariq Nasheed (FOF29)
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- In this Episode 29 (part 5) of the Factz Ova Feelinz (FOF) podcast with Spider Loc, he is joined with guest Tariq Nasheed and they discuss the origins of Hip-Hop in New York and talk about if it was all a Black American (FBA) creation or if there were other influences from Jamaica, Puerto Rico and other Caribbean nations. - Foundational Black Americans.
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Did you see "Grandmaster Flash" on Drink Champs say the first breakdancers were Black?
I tried to tell you, even prove to you that latins called it "moreno style", but you just kept arguing me down. I don't get why people rather argue or fight then learn the truth
Anyway, peace to you!
I find Nlack Americans to be very arrogant and egotistic! The brother is trying to discredit Jamaicans and their part in the creation of Hip Hop. It doesn't matter if persons had many negatives to say about it, certainly those negatives were not said by Jamaicans, but Americans instead. None of what he said changes the fact that a Jamaican created the Hip Hop Genre.
@@JohnD-o-ecosplaying doesn’t count sir ! Bring something from your culture and you will get credit
@@lockvegas05 Facts are Facts! Unless you are willing to debate on the facts surrouding the crestion of Hip Hop, then I have nothing to say to you.
@@JohnD-o-e the facts are obvious ! The culture was already there! There is nothing caribbean about hip hop! The swag, dress, vernacular, dance and music is all FBA. No need to debate interloping cosplaying culture vultures .
Rap/Hip Hop is 1000% Black American 🇺🇸
That sounds nice!!
@@Beetwate305 That sounds like the truth!!
They big mad why lol 😅
Foudational Blacc Americans created Hip-Hop PERIOD!
Fucc who don't like it. ✊🏿🇺🇸
Word
Gate is up 🚪🔒…They can go cry on their foreign flags!!! WE DONT GIVE A DAMN!
@@darrylbrown2775😂😂😂😂😂 you look zesty as hell in that thumbnail, at least I have a fake thumbnail up but you have your real picture 😂😂. FBA is some made up bs to ensure that yaw get some reparation money! 😂😂😂 which will never happen! Yaw claiming America but begging for reparations!! 😂😂😂 that’s like living in your home but begging to get access to the kitchen! . Ain’t no f’ing difference between African Americans (that ticked you off huh?) and other blacks across the diaspora. Only thing that separates us is culture and language and that’s no fault of our own! That’s slaveries fault! Yaw want to rewrite history soooooooo bad because you’re ashamed of the history, ashamed of the “African” part. Tariq went from pimping women in the 90’s to pimping black people into a FBA cult while selling yaw soap and tickets to his events 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
It's not about who doesn't like it!...it's the fact that it really started in jamaica n adopted in American slang n backed by the big record companies
Grandmaster flash
🇧🇧
Kool herc 🇯🇲
Every element of America music is Black American. New Orleans created Bounce, Atlanta Trap, Miami Bass, B'more House, Chicago House break beat,Washington DC Go-go music, New York originated hip hop, Louisiana Zydeco, Jazz, Chicago Gospel, Soul, R&B, Country music, everything is BLACK AMERICAN !!!!!!!!!
Can’t forget about rock n roll 👌🏾
@@jackjackrvaglobal365 Funk, Disco, The Mills Brothers invented Doo-Wop, The Michigan Kids invented Techno, when Afrika Bambaataa and the Soulsonic Force released "Planet Rock," a new sound was born. Some called it "hip-hop be-bop" or breakdancing music.
@@juniormiles6773they made electro thats that planet rock sound
@juniormiles6773 Bambataa didn't actually craft that song he just used his name and clout to promote it. He is also not the author of Bebop that's from Jazz. He's in record Saying Kool DJ Dee (FBA) introduced him to Hip-hop. We've created so much that we honestly forgot somethings 👍🏾
@@boris10shock Who Craft Works? Because that was the sample.
Tariq breaking shit down to a science. Salute flex!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 big words only sound fancy to uneducated people
Tariq is a black AA supremacist. He breathes he is a black whiteman 😅🤣American exceptionalism and divisiveness among the formerly enslaved people of the Caribbean.
Yet you can't dispute what he saying 😂@@Beetwate305
Big mad lmao 😂😅
Hip hop is 100% FBA
Nope
Not even close
@@AlanGonzalez-dv7jfit is tho Latinos didn't create hip hop nor help create it yall called it moreno music
@@AlanGonzalez-dv7jfit is tho hate it all you want y'all didn't create nor help create it yall called it moreno music
@@AlanGonzalez-dv7jfyup
It’s like a photographer during the Vietnam War asking for a Medal of Honor lol.
🎯
NAH, IT'S MORE LIKE YOUR MOTHER ASKING FOR CHILD SUPPORT AFTER I NUTTED IN HER FACE.
Damn, your Statement is Gospel.
LMFAO! That's the perfect analogy.
Facts
Talk that shit Riq!!
Tariq is an idiot!! A cult leader
Hip Hop and all forms of popular American music were created by Black 🇺🇸 Americans
Facts
Aboriginal Indigenous Americans, misnomer:
Blacks or African Americans.
Facts! Crazy people are trying to reimagine history. Soon these mfers will start saying Rosa parks and Martin Luther didn’t really fight for civil rights it was Pedro and Jose who did it.
Should've at least waited until the forefathers of hip-hop passed away like they usually do before stealing 😂😂😂
They don’t critically think😒
Donna Summers was well and alive when they stole disco. How is disco White and Donna Summers is the queen. Same with MJ being the King of Pop, and they were calling pop White when Ushers, Mya, Janet, Destiny's Child, B2k etc were all dancing around
That's what I said cuz I was there! I'm 60. And use to PARTY IN NY. IM FROM PHILLY MY MOM FROM NY.HARLEM AND BRONX. PRs AND JAMAICANS HAD NOTHING TO WITH RAP IS WHAT WE CALLED IT CUZ IT WAS FUNK WITCH I STILL LOVE. DID MADE HIP HOP. YEA THEY SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL WE WAS ALL GONE FROM THAT GENERATION. GATE KEEP YOUNGINS DON'T LET THESE MIMICS TAKE OUR MUSIC CULTURE AND CLAIM OUR SHIT. FBA1 4 LIFE.
Your correct, thats why when Little Richard died, white America secretly had a celebration.
I can't even believe this is going on!!! Hip hop is ours and ours only.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 , Yaw soooo retarded!! Hip hop didn’t just appear out of thin air! It was created by people!!!!!! People who were
All American!!! Cool hurk was Jamaican!! , Biggie is Jamaican , one of the best rappers to do it! Yaw love letting Tariq get yaw into a frenzy!! He’s a grifter!!
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Salute to the King of Receipts Tariq Nasheed ✊🏾
Talk that sh*t Flex !
As Foundational Black Americans, We've given up and shared enough of Our culture but the buck stops here ! We're reclaiming Our sh*t one step at a time.
FBA all day. FBA all the way.
🤜🏾💥🤛🏾
FUCK SOUTH CENTRAL. WHAT THE FUCK THOSE IT LOOK LIKE? A TRAILER PARK?
Jamaican greats are on video saying they got Toasting from FBA. Make it make sense Busta?
toasting or mcing or djing is a jamaican thing. end of black americans just trying cling to every part of history & claiming it as theirs.
@@ConvictedRapistTrump Man to completely discredit or ignore Jamaican contribution to Hip Hop is irresponsible. Equally shameful is to erase any Latino participation is Hip Hop. It is delusional and desperate.
@ConvictedRapistTrump You need to watch all of the videos of the elder Jamaican artists saying that they were heavily influenced by Black American music! R&B, Soul, Jazz etc! They said they traveled far to get American records. The Jamaican female artists said they copied Diana Ross and the Supremes, and other Motown artists. They even listened to American DJs! They also told the true history of toasting and Ska, and paid homage to and gave credit to Black Americans for the music! BTW, you can also see videos of Herc saying how he saw Hip Hop, by Black Americans, years before he got into it, and that there was no Jamaican influence in his involvement in Hip Hop, not even the speakers! Black Americans are trendsetters and we do not need help from anyone else when it comes to dancing, music and fashion!
I'm not talking about artist, there has a been a culture of clashing, MCing that originates from Jamaica. That specific culture is where rap comes from.
@@chinablack9790
Leave it to the "foundation black americans" to start arguments & say the most disrespectful things over stuff nobody was tripping over.
let them say what they want, Kool herc a jamaican is written down in history as the founder of rap @@rolbar5723
Hip Hop, blues, country; all Black American made. Other groups cant name not one James Brown or Little Richard from their country.
Black Americans created every element of Hip Hop 💯 I can't wait until the documentary comes out #MicrophoneCheck
Good interview Spider. Salute to Tariq always keeping it 💯 for the FBAs ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Kool Herc coming over here at 12 years old bringing Soundsystems, Toasting and this and that with him and Black Americans just copying Jamaican culture is some of the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard in my life. When in reality Jamaican Toasting comes from Black American Jive Talk Radio DJs like Dr Hepcat, Jack the Rapper, Jocko Henderson etc etc. Jamaican Music Pioneers like Count Matchuki and Coxsone Dodd have said this numerous times how they copied Black American Radio DJs Jives.
Facts!
😂😂 yes because sound systems only exist on a tiny third world island 😂😂
💯what’s even worse is how many Jamaicans honestly believe this lie😂you see as soon as Buster got on DrinkChamps amongst other Caribbeans how he changed up…he became JAmaican. Then gets around CHUCKD, 50Cent & Method Man and he’s Black…knowing when we say Black in this country we mean Foundational BlackAmerican, ADOS, Negor, Colored, AfroAmerican…✌🏿🖤👊🏿
There is nothing Caribbean about Hip Hop. They don't even have a music genre that it would have evolved from. It's a ridiculous assertion to claim .
Very well said and logical. I agree!
All I know is the 90s was the best era for rap music. There will never be another era like that so if you missed it SORRY FOR YA!!!
You are right, 100%.
The Golden Era
Teaching Heavy!
Amazing discussion.
Hip hop is a evolution from r&b funk and all our other music to try to put it on one Caribbean who did you know a turntable thing where he kept playing the music from our records and make it seem like he's the four father or the Creator is just absolutely ridiculous
It's came directly outta the movement / black power movement of 60s and 70s/black is beautiful/ black entertainment. / slanging rapping jiving.
Hip Hop is FBA. FBA showed respect to their FANS. Now these FANS think they are the ORIGINATORS. Just because FBA give you props and put you on THEIR CULTURE, doesn't mean you ORIGINATED nor FOUNDED it. The Earliest Puerto Ricans put on to Hip Hop by FBA were FANS
Bullshit
@@deebonanno3165big facts!! These people are delusional
Hiphop was created by people! First Hiphop group, sugar hill gang, some of the members had Caribbean heritage!!! 🤦🏾♂️
@@Beetwate305 Mfs using they Black Card to be Assholes knowing PRs have African roots
@@Beetwate305bullshit!
black people are the OGz no other race period!
And what about the foundation of black Americans contribution to reggae and dancehall? Since reggae and dancehall really comes from our music anyway
"Rock Your Baby", by George McCrae, and "Rock The Boat", by the Hues Corporations, released what were considered the first disco songs in 1974. And yes, they were FBA.
Good content 👍🏽
My thing is even all the popular hip hop subgenres are created in fba areas gfunk ,trap ,drill and so on and every knows this that really knows any hip hop history.
FACTS
You can tell Spider Loc has really grown and matured a lot over the years
🙏🏿
Swing Down Sweet Chariot Stop & Let Me Ride… Slavery to George Clinton to Dr Dre… ❤️🖤💚! The ancestors would recognize Dr Dre’s song instantly! No other culture will! Unbroken chain ⛓️
Thanks again for sharing this video because I was teenager in west bronx nyc back in 1970s and Kool herc was my favorite DJ and he was not playing any thing other than hiphop music.
👍🏿🙏🏿
what happened to his hip hop documentary?
He literally talks about the documentary almost every day. Haters gonna Hate 🤦🏿♂️
Hip Hop was created by and strictly FBA all day
For y'all that don't know due to age... Spit was the Original Hater in Beat Street.
Facts
Reparations for FBAs is real
What about here comes the judge, by Dewey Markham (1968)
9ps Was the Golden Era
Tariq is a REAL RIDAH for his peeps💯bump suge though
Don't forget Rudy Ray Moore
Tariq is the new mlk
Jamaicans played a big part in creating hip hop wtf is this guy talking bout.
KAP all lies herc said he got everything from black Americans and that he didn’t have his culture
No they didn't you can not name one element that they created not one.
@@roybabineaux5353fba created turntables, sound systems, mixing, scratching or even deejaying?
fba created break dancing?
fba created graffiti?
fba created wild style?
fba created call & response?
fba created the griot?
Lies
The thing is that really a person saying that it’s not a race like upon we got like we don’t say the name of the person that is saying you want to say the race and that’s a problem. Nobody in Puerto Rico talking about nobody talk about everybody loves me everybody sings every type of music, when you make it talking about these talking, it’s a person talking and you got a name you said the name
You’re missing the most important part of hip-hop and icon. People always forget about him KRS-One KRS-One KRS-One KRS-One let’s go adrenaline.
He not bigger than America not even the south
Why are these joints taking so long to come out?
no one in the early days of hip hop used caribbean influences in our music ... this came later in the 80's
prince markie dee, mantronix, herc, bambaataa, slick rick, flash, red alert, mr magic, or whoever did NOT represent non fba elements in our music. we always played reggae separately and no music from any other culture was played on black radio or in clubs (bob marley was the only exception).
Hotstepper is the only Carribean influenced HipHop I ever heard in my life. And that song came from.a dancehall artist.
FBA🇺🇸
Puerto Ricans were indeed present and actively involved in the creation and early development of hip hop culture from its inception. Hip hop culture originated in the Bronx, New York City, in the early 1970s, within communities that were predominantly African American and Puerto Rican. The close-knit, multicultural neighborhoods of the Bronx were fertile ground for the birth of hip hop, with residents drawing on their diverse cultural backgrounds to shape the new culture.
Puerto Ricans contributed significantly to all four foundational elements of hip hop: DJing, MCing, breakdancing, and graffiti. For instance:
- **DJing**: Puerto Ricans were among the pioneering DJs who experimented with turntables and sound systems to create new music and techniques that would become central to hip hop.
- **MCing (rapping)**: Puerto Rican MCs took to the mic early on, contributing their voices, stories, and styles to the evolving music genre.
- **Breakdancing**: This element of hip hop saw a significant contribution from Puerto Rican dancers, who were instrumental in developing and popularizing breakdancing. Their acrobatic moves and battles became a hallmark of hip hop culture.
- **Graffiti**: Puerto Rican artists were prominent in the graffiti scene, using the urban landscape to express their identities, social messages, and artistic creativity.
Individuals from these communities not only participated in but also helped to shape the direction of hip hop culture from its earliest days. Their contributions underscored the multicultural origins of hip hop and its growth as a global cultural movement. The collaborative environment among different ethnic groups in New York City's boroughs was crucial for the birth of hip hop, making it a truly diverse and inclusive culture from the start.
During the formative years of hip hop, several major figures from the Puerto Rican community, along with African American pioneers, played crucial roles in shaping the culture. While the list of influential individuals is extensive, here are some notable Puerto Rican contributors to various elements of hip hop culture:
### Graffiti
- **Lee Quiñones**: Considered one of the most influential graffiti artists of the early era, Quiñones painted elaborate and socially poignant murals on subway cars and city walls.
- **Lady Pink (Sandra Fabara)**: One of the first women to compete in the male-dominated graffiti scene, Lady Pink's work is iconic and helped pave the way for future generations of artists.
### Breakdancing
- **Crazy Legs (Richard Colón)**: As a member and later the president of the Rock Steady Crew, Crazy Legs is one of the most recognizable figures in breakdancing, contributing to its global popularity.
### Music (DJing and MCing)
- **DJ Charlie Chase**: A founding member of the Cold Crush Brothers, DJ Charlie Chase was one of the first prominent Puerto Rican DJs in hip hop, contributing to the development of the DJing aspect of the culture.
- **Rubie Dee**: As part of the pioneering rap group The Fantastic Five, Rubie Dee was among the early MCs contributing to the development of the MCing/rapping component of hip hop.
These individuals, among others, played pivotal roles in the early days of hip hop, contributing their creativity, energy, and innovation. Their work laid the groundwork for the development of the culture and its global influence, showcasing the significant impact of Puerto Rican artists and performers in hip hop's formative years.
Puerto Rican MCs who played significant roles in the early development of hip hop culture. While the initial waves of hip hop were more prominently African American, Puerto Rican contributions were vital across all elements, including MCing. One of the challenges in recognizing these contributions is that the early hip hop scene was very much a communal and collaborative effort, where ethnicity played less of a role in the public eye compared to the shared cultural and socioeconomic experiences that brought these communities together.
However, specific Puerto Rican MCs and artists emerged from the scene, contributing their voices and perspectives through rap. While I mentioned DJ Charlie Chase and breakdancer Crazy Legs earlier, focusing on DJs and breakdancers, there were also Puerto Rican figures involved in MCing, though they might not have received the same level of mainstream recognition initially as some of their African American counterparts.
One notable group that included Puerto Rican members was The Fearless Four, with members like Devastating Tito. The group was one of the first to sign with a major record label. Another example is Prince Whipper Whip and Ruby Dee of The Fantastic Five, which was an influential group in the early days of hip hop.
In the subsequent generations, many Puerto Rican MCs have gained prominence and have been integral in shaping hip hop music and culture, showcasing the diverse roots and evolution of the genre. As hip hop evolved, the contributions of Latino artists, including Puerto Ricans, became more recognized and celebrated, with artists like Big Pun, Fat Joe, and Joell Ortiz further cementing the influence of Puerto Ricans in hip hop.
Name the Puerto Rican MCs you claim were there since the beginning
One thing these hip hop late comers can never do is show us separation and division and exclusivity anywhere in original hip hop culture. That’s how you know THEY are the swagger jackers and culture vultures.
All of the most ignorant themes and sentiments in hip hop happened after the genre went down south. What a fucking shame 🤦🏾♂️
Puerto Ricans😂😂😂 I cant even take it serious. I literally laugh out loud everytime I see this argument
you can have hiphop you win who's claiming Diddy. lol
YES IT WAS 100% FBA CREATION. JUST LIKE ROCK AND COUNTRY. The OTHERS called it devil music at its inception. Too many of us were alive aware and witnessed the hate
Yall got it from Africa
@@donventi3567 Where in Africa? and show us Africans doing anything remotely doing what we do before us
Aboriginal Indigenous American “Black” Indians of America, USA are not from Africa. We were here FIRST in America.
🧢🧢
🤡🤡🤡🤡
#FBA
Tethers mad😂…go prop up your own culture CAUSE RAP/HIP HOP ANT IT!
Elaborate
BootyBusta & Petecox needs to get on a One-Way Boat to Jamaica! We are all Indian’s here,but Amarukhan is the Real India Superior for a Reason!!!! Chuck D Named this Clown after an Amarukhan Football Player George Buster Rhymes #88 Minnesota Vikings 1985-89 Everybody Wannabe us & see us!!!!
What's the big deal FBA created it, but without Ricans and other Latinos it would have never blew up like it did. Love all the crews, mixed races on the West and the East Coast. Don't get caught up in all the bullshit love HIP HOP forever. Thank you FBA for creating it! Latinos who added to the dopiness, I tip my hat we know what it is!
This is why hiphop came from redlined neighborhoods in Mississippi.
the foundation of the culture
Hip-Hop came out of NYC 😂
Send fat joe a copy of the film when it comes out
Anyone who was around... anywhere outside in the 70s will tell you.. wasn't no damn Latinos rocking with us.
Puerto Rican and black baby
What,,?
@@bobby12348 black and brown pride all day everyday that's what
I love my culture and I love my people
Not only blacks Puerto Ricans also
What did Puerto Ricans Bring?
In the five elements of hip-hop Puerto Ricans are a part of that even though the early rap pioneers were black yes I agree the Puerto Ricans are a part of the culture since day one and it started on the East Coast
Stfu nobody cares about that b s
Keep arguing over who created it, while they control all the money made from it. 🤦🏾♂️
Tethers never created anything...and I know I am an African too.😂😂😂
Yall gone drag this out for months huh??? Just drop the whole shit😂
how is hip hop going to Olympics lol
FB🇺🇸vs🌐🤷🏿♂️✌🏿
Tariq says WE nah You didn’t put the blood sweat and tears into the RAP GAME it’s crazy how the OGS of the GAME that started this movement don’t need to say what they’ve done but WE know what they accomplished and I personally thank them
Black people started hip hop and rap NOT Mexicans lol ya'll are so delusional
Name 1 Pioneer that you acknowledge, and we'll see if your arguing in good faith. Name 1 Black American Pioneer just 1.
@jerrygraves6531 Don't be fooled these people don't recognize anyone not in a White Man's "Hip-hop" book.
Babble
@@jerrygraves6531He's not right. And, why have the knowledge YOU have, if you're not gonna use it to check dum-dums like him? 🤷🏾♂️😒
The reason why Lie-tinos want to place Hip-Hop at 1975, it's so they can make the claim, they "co-created Hip-hop" which is hardly the case. There's really no concrete dates for any of our musical art-forms here in the USA.
They all take elements from the previous and create something new.
Hip-hop is just an extension of a long legacy of FBA music, which is why during it's origin, borrowed primarily from funk, r&b, disco and soul records.
In the Bronx where those pre-existing elements came together to form Hip-Hop, were all done by FBA.
How u Puerto Rican allege it's 50/50 but nothing from your culture prior to the creation of, went into creating Hip-Hop?
Your contributions came later. The late 1970's as far as a musical contribution and that was very very minimal.
Barely any recordings. Graffiti, early 70's. In my opinion, that particular element is your earliest contributions.
Breaking/B-boying, late 70's. Probably your greatest contribution because u kept it going after it played out amongst FBA youth.
Man stop the cap
How greatly ignorant people are. In the 1970s and 80s there is no doubt hip hop was created by Black Americans. Now as Lie- Tinos are concerned especially Puerto Ricans we were there. Heavily participating and endorsing. In the Bronx Latinos and blacks grow up hand in hand. Unless you from NYc and grew up in the hood keep your opinions to yourself.
@@mikefernandez8893the Bronx was segregated at that time. Black and Latinos were not co-creating like that. Latinos called it jungle Bunny music
@@mikefernandez8893It’s all black Americans culture and creations don’t matter the Bity🤷🏾♂️
@@mikefernandez8893 PR dont even like Black ppm from your own country. Why tf would u be in Black American ppl faces?
PNB NATION and if you don't know that clothing line stood for Puerto Rican and black nation
Dj kool herc is Jamaican 😂
And?
3:13
My name is the truth 🇵🇷
Afro Caribbeans contributed to hip hop over the years but the elements from scratch are black American. Period.
Knowledge (aka consciousness) is an element of hip hop, too. But most of the greatest master teachers in the cannon of black consciousness like Arthur Schomburg, Cheikh Anta Diop and Frantz Fanon were not FBA
The 5 percenters had a big push on consciousness in hip hop and the creator of that was FBA. Clarence X. Which he got his knowledge from the Nation of Islam which it was starts by a FBA. Elijah Muhammad.
@@larrinj.2905 And the person who inspired W. Fard Muhammad to create the Nation of Islam in 1930, was a JAMAICAN immigrant by the name of Marcus Garvey
@@larrinj.2905 also Elijah Muhammad was a student of Garvey
@@125efa Fard Muhammad wasn’t in Garvey group. It was Elijah Muhammad. You are right about his inspiration to Elijah. It’s also worth noting that Garvey tried pan African in Jamaica and failed. He had his most success of pan Africanism in America because there was consciousness here already.
I don’t fuck with this guys but hip hop is black for sure
Man to completely discredit or ignore Jamaican contribution to Hip Hop is irresponsible. Equally shameful is to erase any Latino participation is Hip Hop. It is delusional and desperate. Agreed the gods and creators were FBA but too much labeling going on.
Claiming ownership to a culture that was controlled bye corporate entities equals dreams of grandeur.
All in all of you existed outside of the culture but participated basically you were a customer.
It’s the truth.
Corporations can't own cultures. Your jealousy because we have started exposing your 30year old lie is making you say anything. Just because China manufacturers bootleg Samurai Swords doesn't mean that they own Japanese Culture. Your just Anti Black that's it. You wouldn't go to your Uncles house and say that Walmart owns Jamaican Culture because they sell DanceHall CD's and sell Weckerwood Jerk marinade.
You're listening to Tariq with your ears turned off. He literally acknowledges that Caribbeans were around and he had Red Alert, Busy Bee and Cholly Rock in his documentary. All 3 have Caribbean ancestry. Cholly Rock is half FBA and he said that he grew up in both Cultures and there's nothing Caribbean about the beginning of Hip-hop. Why would he lie? Busy Bee said that he doesn't even know where that lie that Hip-hop comes from Jamaica came from.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 my ears are open and what I did here was zero contribution from Latinos and they had no part in advancement of hip-hop culture. And somehow that led to the mixer, which brought us to Jamaican influence. From Mary, or just injections to this conversation by the public, such as yourself. I would like to make clear that there were Latinos and hip-hop, no matter what anybody who wants to say.
Also, I’m pretty sure the mixer itself not the turntable coaching, but the mixer that we used today, that allows us to blend the records and create mixes, if not create pioneer and advanced in Jamaica . so if you’re going to jump into this conversation, please pay attention to my comments at least.
@@rolbar5723 Using the phrase pretty sure just shows that you're not at all interested in the truth. It's obvious that Hip-hop Culture has absolutely no Latino roots at all. So what makes you BELIEVE that Latinos CREATED any element of Hip-hop. So you're on the internet just begging Black Americans to BELIEVE you and not interviews and recipes? So basically recordings and interviews will never change your BELIEF. Flash who is Caribbean but not Jamaican lied and said he invented the Crossfader in the Bronx and you magically turned that lie into, Jamaicans invented the Mixer on the Island 😂😂😂😂😂😂Boy I tell ya🤦🏿♂️
😂😂 Yall aint contribute sh×××,tt 😂😂😂 Yall just lied about being American
Tariq let’s hear your Flo?? Bust a break dance move for us maybe, in our culture we have people speak on our music but never sang or danced
Hip hop was started by Caribbean folks living in New York. If you look up the background of each hip-hop pioneer, they have a Caribbean background.
Let's say for the sake of argument that's true, (which is not) when immigrants came to America they adapted to “Black” American culture. They didn't come with music from their Carribean, African, Latin culture. They sampled Black American music because we are the culture.
😂😂😂😂 in my Fred Sanford voice you big dummy
No. Caribbean's had nothing to do with hip hop origins. You watched and you learned from us. Blessings.
@@DJsDomain_ dj king Charles proves otherwise
@@nicoleford4654 OK I agree and it’s called assimilation.
Why do yall keep acting like kool herc created anything when out his mouth he told you where he learned dj ing from and his inspirations like grandmaster cazz who was doing his thing way before herc
Tariq so Bias, don'twant to give Jamaica any Credit
What credit does Jamaica deserve?
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Did nasheed grow up in the south bronx.......??????????
Nice try lie Tinos YALL were not messing with blacks in mass in the Bronx in the 70s and BARELY in the 80…you were trying to be and look like yt boys with those mushroom haircuts!!!.🍄
That clown is from Alabama
South Bronx isn't in Puerto Rico or Jamaica its in America where he's from and you aint.
It’s a few issues with what he’s talking about, I’m just going to jump out and say hip hop isn’t necessarily black culture it’s inner city youth culture hence why it’s ageism in it.
Another thing is Cool Herc is accredited with creating hip hop and if you go back to interviews from when he was younger he always stated he got the idea from what he seen as a youth in Jamaica .
Then a lot of the pioneers names were lost in time because everyone looks to the rappers when at the beginning the rappers were just the DJ’s hype man hell they were the low man on the totem pole in the early days but then hip hop took a turn where the DJ’s cut out there hype and started rapping themselves which is why so many of the early rappers rap names would be DJ _____.
If you truly dig into the history of hip hop purely for the history and too learn you’ll see from the beginning it just wasn’t black Americans who started it and helped spread it.
Nope it’s all black Americans culture and creation don’t matter the Bity wasn’t no America before black Americans. Black Americans created almost every genre in music it’s all black Americans shit
NI99A STOP LYING!! HERC WAS A BIG TALL GOOFY JAMAICAN THAT ARRIVED TO AMERICA AT THE AGE OF 12 AND IS ON RECORD SAYING HE HAD TO BE “AMERICANIZED” WHEN HE FIRST STARTED PLAYING OUR MUSIC!! HE STATED NOBODY WANTED TO LISTEN TO JAMAICAN MUSIC AT THE EARLY JAMS!!
Herc has MULTIPLE interviews saying he learned everything musically from black Americans and BA's didn't rock with anything he did Jamaican based. That's his words . Stop lying.
@@Ekleaz pay attention he said he got the idea of throwing parties they way he did and his particular style of DJing he got from what he would see as a kid in Jamaica look it up.
@djarmstrong4099 No he did not. Stop lying. He said he got it all from the black kids in his neighborhood. This is pathetic
Kool herc ain’t the godfather of shit
How can Tariq talk hip hop. His rap career was terrible and a failure. Thenhe lucked up on a book. Then failed to produce another book then started scamming 😂
Tethers are truly corny 💯💯🤣🤣🤣
So was many tethers rappers careers were and are trash 🗑️ YALL the reason rap is trash now….NEXT!👉🏾
Your a bot
Facts ✊🏾
@@endrykperez412 lmao calling someone a name your daddy Tariq made up while having a bob marley avatar is wild 🤡
At this point street TV ya'll promote racial tension and ethnic tension smh it is sick how ya'll make content out of life or death situations
This fool said, "at this point." So tell us when you enjoyed our content? You not subscribed and we been posting this same content for years.
No, street TV exposes all your fake tethers who are trying to steal fba culture and identity. The racial tension has always been there because you immigrants stay jealous and envious of fba's because we are the greatest group on planet earth, and our culture dominates the world ✊🏿💪🏿🤴🏿🇺🇲
Are you dumb??? What are they doing that's promoting racial tension???
How is setting the record str8 making content out of life or death situations?
Black and brown hold the crown
Denying Latinos were in the beginning of hip hop is denying hip hop history. Facts. Wont argue or change my mind
Keep telling yourself that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@endrykperez412 I will.
So Facts won't change your mind 😂😂😂😂
Lietinos didn't do shit 🤣🤣🤣
@@lroyjetsonson5060 what i said is facts. Stop trying to argue. I’m not gonna agree with you. Just walk away
This dude read encyclopedia he don’t know shit.
You sound dumb ASL
Tethers mad cause y’all can’t write themselves into our history😂😂😂😭
Who’s y’all ?
@@darrylbrown2775 💯💯wall jumpers love to project there idiotic ways onto us 🤣🤣🤣
@@darrylbrown2775 💯💯Wall jumpers love to project there stupidity on to us 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Alex Alonso you should stop saying your are Boricua after letting this guy lie about black & Puerto Rican relationships in NYC. He’s not from NYC, he has no idea
Stop acting like NYC is in another country. You’re acting like NYC is in 🇵🇷. It’s not though!!! NYC is in a country your people fled to 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
IM FROM THE BRONX JAMES MONROE PROJECTS LIE TINOS DID NOT CREATE NOR HELP CREATE RAP/ HIP HOP!! THERE YOU HAPPY NOW! SALSA IS YOUR CULTURE!
@@sshawnbr3 listen punk, foR US as Puerto Ricans NYC is apart of PR, it’s west we created our flag and also more soldiers since WW1 have come OUT of Puerto Rico, my people have shed much blood for “this country” so I can say what I want how I want PUNK
@@sshawnbr3 and we didn’t flee to NYC clown, US corporations (like dominoes sugar) lied to Puerto Ricans saying life was easier in NYC after they bought they all the land over there for pennies by manipulating poor folks over there. Research a People’s struggle more before you criticizes
@@equitypark1865Lol “Listen punk, for us PR’s, NYC is apart of PR”. So you’re basically admitting you’re delusional 😂😂😂😂😂
Hispanics have been there from the beginning of hip-hop, with of course the black majority. But if you want to give credit or credit is due the mixture and turntable culture, came from Jamaica, Jamaican Africans not African-Americans.
Who invented hip-hop literally?
Anything that has to do with inner city and neighborhoods and ghetto is a black and brown thing because growing up in the hood is a shared experience. We go through the same shit and the odds are equally stacked against us so that we could never make it out.
Another lie. We had DJ'S and turntables in our Communities before Jamaica had it's first radio station. NYS and the rest of our country had DJ'S all over before the first Jamaican made a sound system. Your being delusional fam. We had Dub Plates (Vynyl Records) since the 1800's. Beat Boxing comes from BeBopping, which originates in Jazz. Nothing that you claim to have brung from Jamaica actually comes from Jamaica. Or predate it's self in Jamaica before America. Our first Toast to be written was in 1912. Pimps and Gangsters called theirs Bad Man Toasts. I'm guessing that you already know what old ass slang you copied 😂😂😂 Hip-hop comes from our culture ✋🏾🧢
@@lroyjetsonson5060 well, even besides bebopping, there is groups, bustin flows in the 40s there’s a couple of those joints out there but they do come from a jazz culture.
So you saying the mixer does not come from Jamaica the two turntables and the toasting has nothing to do with hip-hop?
And I’m delusional ?
You can’t discredit someone’s contribution to the culture just because they’re not black and you are. That’s the same shit these dudes had to go against. They’re whole life They had to go out there and prove that they were more skilled than the man standing next regardless of color.
That's a damn lie
Hip-hop is FBA and FBA alone!!!!
Hip hop and all genres of music was created by the so called “African Americans” it’s disgusting to claim other ppl culture
I cant believe yall listen to this grifter lol
Facts
Rap came from jamaica, its a fact. Mcing in Jamaica is a thing, thats how Biggie got into rapping he lived in Jamaica for as a child where he rap/mced with other jamaican kids.
Rap is 100% black american but it is founded by black jamaicans MCs who lived in New York. It's a fact rap started with jamaicans
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I never lied & tariq is not even a rapper so why he discussing it@@Snotboxrocked156
LOL...
All this Jamaican pride no sign of hip hop in Jamaica before y’all fled YALL BARELY EVEN PLAY RAP IN JAMAICA TODAY😭😂 just Lying and being wrong you tethers favorite thing.😂
lmaoooooo
Hispanics have the best graffiti and tattoo artists 🤙
Who cares
Y'all ain't hip-hop
@@endrykperez412 not sure who that's aimed at because your name is Spanish.. I'm FBA it doesn't get more hh than that
@@jerrygraves6531 I'm talking about the dude who made the comment above your's 💯💯
Does not matter who is the best. Who started it? And yall arent hip hop.
Y’all hate the FACTS, hip hop is a black art form yes, but created by BLACKS & PUERTO RICANS, the hate towards Puerto Ricans is really sad
What did yall create that we weren't already doing?
Deflection
Peurto stincans didn't create shit
What element of hip hop did puerto ricans create
@@down-b8197 I’ll answer for them NONE! NOT A GOT DAMN THING!!!… AND IM FROM JAMES MONROE PROJECTS IN THE BRONX!
Hip hop was not created by FBAs alone. Instead it was undeniably co-created with the help of Afro-Carribeans like Sylvia Robinson, DJ King Charles and DJ Maboya
False. Stop the Bullshxt narratives. Kool Herc is already on recording stating that the first time that he saw Hip-hop was at John Brown party. He was not Hip, let alone Hip-hop when he came from Jamaica. Bambataa is on multiple interviews naming Kool DJ Dee and his Brother Tyrone the Mixologist as the first people to bring Hip-hop to his projects. We created Hip-hop, and you liked it. You created DanceHall, and we liked it. Nothing more Nothing less. No need to put any more cut on the Dope, Bruh.
So it was created by puerto ricans, afro carribeans and black americans ........nigga if you dont stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lroyjetsonson5060KOOL HERC IS A FOUNDER OF HIPHOP
@jokersman25 So you don't know how to read or you just want to believe that a Bunch of Jamaicans had parties and forgot to incorporate any Jamaican artists at all. Think about how stupid that actually sounds.
PS. Monster SoundSystems is not an element of Hip-hop. We already had sound systems but they just wasn't as big but we had sound systems FIRST. The first sound system ever in Jamaica was purchased from us Yankees. Look it up. The system came from "A foreign." 😂😂😂
@@lroyjetsonson5060 DJ King Charles was an early hip hop pioneer in the 1960s
“This is OUR wife.. Remember.. She loves BOTH of us” Cudnt have been stated any better Street💪🏿🫡🙏🏿.. Thanks for ur scholarship Tariq
DJ Charlie Chase legendary Puerto Rican DJ from the Bronx said out of his own mouth the Puerto Ricans did not invent Hip Hop but.... a very instrumental in the evolution and the culture..... who said that they said they invented hip hop? Can most of you with this argument are not even from the Bronx or the tri-state area.. most of you all were 5:10 years behind