Nice introduction. But one thing needs to be illustrated more. The men negotiated with Japanese troop was not from the two villages under attack. Rather, it was the leader of Sqalu Kingdom, jr. Toketok , who stood out and signed peace treaty with the Japanese representatives. The mordern researchers doubt the power of this treaty since the Kingdom had lost its control to many Paiwan villages at the moment of Japanese invasion.
Appreciated your video on the specific historical story. I sensed the heat by watching your video and almost felt the melting-heat, you really dared to make the very interesting and educational video, really nice one.
Just want to add, Charles Le Gendre, the American consul who negotiated a peace treaty with the Seqalu Tribal Alliance in the Rover incident, was heavily involved in Japan's decision to pull off the Mudan incident. Charles Le Gendre obviously fell in love with Taiwan since the 1866 Rover incident, and returned to the island to visit his Plains Aboriginal friends at Siā-liâu, as well as visit Grand-chief Cuqicuq Garuljigulj at Ciljasuaq, the capital village of Seqalu, for abour 18 times. During this time, he submitted suggestion for the US to annex Taiwan based on Qing's initial claim that China didn't have sovereignty of aboriginal lands, and hence were responsible for the Rover incident. Le Gendre's friend, William Pickering made similar suggestions to the British crown. After his suggestion was turned down, Le Gendre was devastated and decided to return to the US. En route to the US, Le Gendre's ship made a stop in Japan, where he was summoned by the Japanese government and showed great interest in Le Gendre's proposal. That's when Le Gendre officially became an advisor for the Empire of Japan, and Le Gendre was instrumental in the planning of the Mudan incident, and even provided the necessary maps, intel, as well as his friends as contacts. Had Le Gendre not been arrested by the US in Shanghai a couple of weeks prior to Japan launching their expedition, Le Gendre would have accompanied the Japanese troops back to Taiwan. Le Gendre's motivation seems to be that he and his friends, such as James Horn, who accompanied Pickering and Le Gendre to Ljangaw (Kenting) during the Rover incident, came to the realization that Han Chinese will inevitably encroach on Pingpu and Seqalu lands if Qing was allowed to continue their governance and wipe out their culture has they have done to the Aboriginal tribes along Taiwan's west coast. James Horn actively tried to establish a safe haven for the Pingpu tribesmen by relocating them to Kavalan, but demised in an unfortunate ship wreck. Le Gendre seemingly negotiated for the Japanese government to grant his friends special treatment to ensure the survival of their culture and traditions. That's why Japanese troops landed and stationed in Siā-liâu and were guided by Le Gendre's Pingpu friends. Then his friends in Ciljasuaq weren't attacked by the Japan, and helped arranged a cease fire. The original goal was for Japan to control Ljangaw, but the Japanese were hit hard by tropical disease and Qing sent Western trained troops to force them to leave. The Japanese withdrawal forced leaders of Siā-liâu and Ciljasuaq to suck up to the Qing government and paid and helped Qing to build a walled city in Hengchun, weakening their power in the region, and gave way to more Chinese encroachment.
Very interesting. Commodore Perry, too, lobbied for the US to colonize Taiwan. On his second visit to Japan, William Perry stopped over in Keelung. He availed himself of this opportunity to investigate coal deposits in the area. His lobbying back in the US fell flat. Soon the Civil War was front page and Formosa was forgotten. By the time the US conquered the Philippines, Taiwan was already Japanese.
@@jeromebesson Le Gendre fought in the civil war before he was posted in Amoy. So there was plenty of time for the US to snatch up Taiwan before they snatched up the Philippines. When Le Gendre called in the Marines for a punitive operation against the Seqalu tribal alliance, the death of one Lieutenant Commander Alexander Slidell MacKenzie triggered the decision to withdraw. He was a nephew of Commodore Perry.
@@AsiaHikelopediayou need to check your history again, Chin ceded Formosa & Pescadoes. All of that history leading up to Treaty of San Francisco is what’s kept Taiwan out of communist china’s reach. Good god
then Japanese occupation of Taiwan is lawful or not? if yes, then why Japan had to return Taiwan back to China in 1945? then Taiwan should be returned back to Japan? if not, then the Shimonoseki Treaty was unlawful? then why Tsing government accepted such International Treaty?
Expats in Taiwan are prone to adopt tropes created and cultivated the Chinese colonizer. The Chinese have been deft at translating their propaganda for foreing audiances. We know this since the lie about the fall of Nanjing. Fallacies like “Japanese Occupation of Taiwan” and “da loo” ( ?! 🙄🙄😂outhouse of Taiwan?😂😜) demonstrate the lasting hold Chinese propaganda continues to enjoy on the Taiwanese psyche.
Returned? Is that what the Chinese colonizer’s school system taught. you? The US unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan to occupy Japanese Taiwan. China was expected to shepherd Taiwan toward independence as UN mandate under the framework of the UN trusteeship system once an international treaty disposing of Taiwan had been signed. Chiang Kai-shek, having signed the UN charter, knew that Taiwan was independent country material. Instead, Chiang’s KMT pretended to have annexed Taiwan. When President Truman figured out how deceitful the ungrateful Chinese were, Truman remembered that if the Chinese Nationalists were occupying JAPANESE Taiwan, the US was also the “principal occupying power” that had unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan. The Chinese that the US foisted on Japanese Taiwan can not claim more than the US gets in the San Francisco Peace Treaty. If Chinese Nationalists pretend owning Taiwan, then the US owns the Chinese stranded on American Taiwan. Once Japan possessed Taiwan in full sovereignty and in perpetuity, China has no say in the Taiwan issue, except to recognize Taiwanese independence once Taiwan is separated from Japan. Japan did not cede Taiwan to any China. John Foster Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China. 馬關條約 ----> 舊金山和平條約 ----> 2758號決議不涉台灣 ----> 台灣關係法 = 中國人民和自錯視為🇹🇼人民的「在台人民」，都無法享受台灣的主權。這是美國對二戰後台灣的鐵則。美國說了算。 兄弟們，別鬧啦！！無論是中國人民還是自錯視為🇹🇼人民的台灣居民都不會享有非華台灣、前日屬台灣和現在美保台灣的主權。台灣不是中國的科西嘉島。 在所有不平等條約中最無恥的條約中，美國竊取了日本的台灣島。 美國必須為其罪行贖罪，付出代價並將日本皇冠上的明珠歸還給它。 這才是正港台灣郎所祈求的。
Expats in Taiwan are prone to adopt tropes created and cultivated by the Chinese colonizer. The Chinese have been deft at translating their propaganda for foreign audiances. We know this since the lie about the fall of Nanjing. Fallacies like “Japanese Occupation of Taiwan” and “da loo” ( ?! 🙄🙄😂 outhouse of Taiwan?😂😜) demonstrate the lasting hold Chinese propaganda continues to enjoy on the Taiwanese psyche.
The US unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan to occupy Japanese Taiwan. China was expected to shepherd Taiwan toward independence as UN mandate under the framework of the UN trusteeship system once an international treaty disposing of Taiwan had been signed. Chiang Kai-shek, having signed the UN charter, knew that Taiwan was independent country material. Instead, Chiang’s KMT pretended to have annexed Taiwan. When President Truman figured out how deceitful the ungrateful Chinese were, Truman remembered that if the Chinese Nationalists were occupying JAPANESE Taiwan, the US was also the “principal occupying power” that had unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan. The Chinese that the US foisted on Japanese Taiwan can not claim more than the US gets in the San Francisco Peace Treaty. If Chinese Nationalists pretend owning Taiwan, then the US owns the Chinese stranded on American Taiwan. Once Japan possessed Taiwan in full sovereignty and in perpetuity, China has no say in the Taiwan issue, except to recognize Taiwanese independence once Taiwan is separated from Japan. Japan did not cede Taiwan to any China. John Foster Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China. 馬關條約 ----> 舊金山和平條約 ----> 2758號決議不涉台灣 ----> 台灣關係法 = 中國人民和自錯視為🇹🇼人民的「在台人民」，都無法享受台灣的主權。這是美國對二戰後台灣的鐵則。美國說了算。 兄弟們，別鬧啦！！無論是中國人民還是自錯視為🇹🇼人民的台灣居民都不會享有非華台灣、前日屬台灣和現在美保台灣的主權。台灣不是中國的科西嘉島。 在所有不平等條約中最無恥的條約中，美國竊取了日本的台灣島。 美國必須為其罪行贖罪，付出代價並將日本皇冠上的明珠歸還給它。 這才是正港台灣郎所祈求的。
@@jeromebesson the root cause is that why US requested Japan to return Taiwan back to China, while Taiwan was under legal occupation of Japan by Shimonoseki Treaty in 1895?
今天這集講的好仔細，而且跑了南排好多地點，辛苦了！(屏東真的很熱啊～～～)今年是牡丹社事件150週年紀念，台灣跟日本都有推出紀念活動跟研討會，斯卡羅原著作者陳耀昌也有前往日本參加。
謝謝
感謝介紹，這段歷史有很多的細節，您的介紹簡潔有力，期待下一部作品！
感謝 🙏
Thanks for the historic video.
Nice introduction. But one thing needs to be illustrated more. The men negotiated with Japanese troop was not from the two villages under attack. Rather, it was the leader of Sqalu Kingdom, jr. Toketok , who stood out and signed peace treaty with the Japanese representatives. The mordern researchers doubt the power of this treaty since the Kingdom had lost its control to many Paiwan villages at the moment of Japanese invasion.
Appreciated your video on the specific historical story. I sensed the heat by watching your video and almost felt the melting-heat, you really dared to make the very interesting and educational video, really nice one.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting!
Just want to add, Charles Le Gendre, the American consul who negotiated a peace treaty with the Seqalu Tribal Alliance in the Rover incident, was heavily involved in Japan's decision to pull off the Mudan incident. Charles Le Gendre obviously fell in love with Taiwan since the 1866 Rover incident, and returned to the island to visit his Plains Aboriginal friends at Siā-liâu, as well as visit Grand-chief Cuqicuq Garuljigulj at Ciljasuaq, the capital village of Seqalu, for abour 18 times. During this time, he submitted suggestion for the US to annex Taiwan based on Qing's initial claim that China didn't have sovereignty of aboriginal lands, and hence were responsible for the Rover incident. Le Gendre's friend, William Pickering made similar suggestions to the British crown. After his suggestion was turned down, Le Gendre was devastated and decided to return to the US. En route to the US, Le Gendre's ship made a stop in Japan, where he was summoned by the Japanese government and showed great interest in Le Gendre's proposal. That's when Le Gendre officially became an advisor for the Empire of Japan, and Le Gendre was instrumental in the planning of the Mudan incident, and even provided the necessary maps, intel, as well as his friends as contacts. Had Le Gendre not been arrested by the US in Shanghai a couple of weeks prior to Japan launching their expedition, Le Gendre would have accompanied the Japanese troops back to Taiwan.
Le Gendre's motivation seems to be that he and his friends, such as James Horn, who accompanied Pickering and Le Gendre to Ljangaw (Kenting) during the Rover incident, came to the realization that Han Chinese will inevitably encroach on Pingpu and Seqalu lands if Qing was allowed to continue their governance and wipe out their culture has they have done to the Aboriginal tribes along Taiwan's west coast. James Horn actively tried to establish a safe haven for the Pingpu tribesmen by relocating them to Kavalan, but demised in an unfortunate ship wreck. Le Gendre seemingly negotiated for the Japanese government to grant his friends special treatment to ensure the survival of their culture and traditions. That's why Japanese troops landed and stationed in Siā-liâu and were guided by Le Gendre's Pingpu friends. Then his friends in Ciljasuaq weren't attacked by the Japan, and helped arranged a cease fire.
The original goal was for Japan to control Ljangaw, but the Japanese were hit hard by tropical disease and Qing sent Western trained troops to force them to leave. The Japanese withdrawal forced leaders of Siā-liâu and Ciljasuaq to suck up to the Qing government and paid and helped Qing to build a walled city in Hengchun, weakening their power in the region, and gave way to more Chinese encroachment.
Very interesting. Commodore Perry, too, lobbied for the US to colonize Taiwan. On his second visit to Japan, William Perry stopped over in Keelung. He availed himself of this opportunity to investigate coal deposits in the area. His lobbying back in the US fell flat. Soon the Civil War was front page and Formosa was forgotten. By the time the US conquered the Philippines, Taiwan was already Japanese.
@@jeromebesson Le Gendre fought in the civil war before he was posted in Amoy. So there was plenty of time for the US to snatch up Taiwan before they snatched up the Philippines.
When Le Gendre called in the Marines for a punitive operation against the Seqalu tribal alliance, the death of one Lieutenant Commander Alexander Slidell MacKenzie triggered the decision to withdraw. He was a nephew of Commodore Perry.
謝謝你的介紹！ :)
我正從西鄉從道紀念碑上面下來😅熱死了
Thanks!
謝謝
謝謝！
Wow. Thanks!
Thanks
不是侵略invasion，是馬關條約割讓cede ！
外力就是侵入從原民來看就是如此
這不是1895年的故事
@@AsiaHikelopediayou need to check your history again, Chin ceded Formosa & Pescadoes. All of that history leading up to Treaty of San Francisco is what’s kept Taiwan out of communist china’s reach. Good god
@@AsiaHikelopedia zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
課本只有記載年份和地名,沒有影片的故事精彩,很好的影片
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
The title “When” may be “Why”
日本哪有侵略台灣?? 人家日本是透過馬關條約合法取得台灣，你應該要問當初清國為何要割讓台灣給日本
are you sure that those fishermen are from Ryukyu but not Miyako Island?
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
They were on a Ryuku tributary mission when they got shipwrecked, but were repatriated to Miyako. Wasn't that part of the kingdom then?
Please tell more 🇹🇼stories.
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
❤👍👍👍
歡迎來恆春半島
是割讓接收台灣，
我是不知道你為什麼用英文是用「when」，中文是用「為什麼」，請問一下什麼時候「when」 成「為什麼」？
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
簡直扭曲歷史。在帶風向？陳耀昌號稱歷史專業，也是華國歷史學家
then Japanese occupation of Taiwan is lawful or not?
if yes, then why Japan had to return Taiwan back to China in 1945?
then Taiwan should be returned back to Japan?
if not, then the Shimonoseki Treaty was unlawful?
then why Tsing government accepted such International Treaty?
Expats in Taiwan are prone to adopt tropes created and cultivated the Chinese colonizer. The Chinese have been deft at translating their propaganda for foreing audiances. We know this since the lie about the fall of Nanjing. Fallacies like “Japanese Occupation of Taiwan” and “da loo” ( ?! 🙄🙄😂outhouse of Taiwan?😂😜) demonstrate the lasting hold Chinese propaganda continues to enjoy on the Taiwanese psyche.
Returned? Is that what the Chinese colonizer’s school system taught. you?
The US unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan to occupy Japanese Taiwan. China was expected to shepherd Taiwan toward independence as UN mandate under the framework of the UN trusteeship system once an international treaty disposing of Taiwan had been signed. Chiang Kai-shek, having signed the UN charter, knew that Taiwan was independent country material. Instead, Chiang’s KMT pretended to have annexed Taiwan.
When President Truman figured out how deceitful the ungrateful Chinese were, Truman remembered that if the Chinese Nationalists were occupying JAPANESE Taiwan, the US was also the “principal occupying power” that had unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan.
The Chinese that the US foisted on Japanese Taiwan can not claim more than the US gets in the San Francisco Peace Treaty. If Chinese Nationalists pretend owning Taiwan, then the US owns the Chinese stranded on American Taiwan.
Once Japan possessed Taiwan in full sovereignty and in perpetuity, China has no say in the Taiwan issue, except to recognize Taiwanese independence once Taiwan is separated from Japan. Japan did not cede Taiwan to any China. John Foster Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China.
馬關條約 ----> 舊金山和平條約 ----> 2758號決議不涉台灣 ----> 台灣關係法 = 中國人民和自錯視為🇹🇼人民的「在台人民」，都無法享受台灣的主權。這是美國對二戰後台灣的鐵則。美國說了算。
兄弟們，別鬧啦！！無論是中國人民還是自錯視為🇹🇼人民的台灣居民都不會享有非華台灣、前日屬台灣和現在美保台灣的主權。台灣不是中國的科西嘉島。 在所有不平等條約中最無恥的條約中，美國竊取了日本的台灣島。 美國必須為其罪行贖罪，付出代價並將日本皇冠上的明珠歸還給它。 這才是正港台灣郎所祈求的。
Expats in Taiwan are prone to adopt tropes created and cultivated by the Chinese colonizer. The Chinese have been deft at translating their propaganda for foreign audiances. We know this since the lie about the fall of Nanjing. Fallacies like “Japanese Occupation of Taiwan” and “da loo” ( ?! 🙄🙄😂 outhouse of Taiwan?😂😜) demonstrate the lasting hold Chinese propaganda continues to enjoy on the Taiwanese psyche.
The US unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan to occupy Japanese Taiwan. China was expected to shepherd Taiwan toward independence as UN mandate under the framework of the UN trusteeship system once an international treaty disposing of Taiwan had been signed. Chiang Kai-shek, having signed the UN charter, knew that Taiwan was independent country material. Instead, Chiang’s KMT pretended to have annexed Taiwan.
When President Truman figured out how deceitful the ungrateful Chinese were, Truman remembered that if the Chinese Nationalists were occupying JAPANESE Taiwan, the US was also the “principal occupying power” that had unloaded the Chinese Nationalists on JAPANESE Taiwan.
The Chinese that the US foisted on Japanese Taiwan can not claim more than the US gets in the San Francisco Peace Treaty. If Chinese Nationalists pretend owning Taiwan, then the US owns the Chinese stranded on American Taiwan.
Once Japan possessed Taiwan in full sovereignty and in perpetuity, China has no say in the Taiwan issue, except to recognize Taiwanese independence once Taiwan is separated from Japan. Japan did not cede Taiwan to any China. John Foster Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China.
馬關條約 ----> 舊金山和平條約 ----> 2758號決議不涉台灣 ----> 台灣關係法 = 中國人民和自錯視為🇹🇼人民的「在台人民」，都無法享受台灣的主權。這是美國對二戰後台灣的鐵則。美國說了算。
兄弟們，別鬧啦！！無論是中國人民還是自錯視為🇹🇼人民的台灣居民都不會享有非華台灣、前日屬台灣和現在美保台灣的主權。台灣不是中國的科西嘉島。 在所有不平等條約中最無恥的條約中，美國竊取了日本的台灣島。 美國必須為其罪行贖罪，付出代價並將日本皇冠上的明珠歸還給它。 這才是正港台灣郎所祈求的。
@@jeromebesson the root cause is that why US requested Japan to return Taiwan back to China, while Taiwan was under legal occupation of Japan by Shimonoseki Treaty in 1895?
雖然內容簡短但扼要,謝謝！
zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E7%89%A1%E4%B8%B9%E7%A4%BE%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6
侵略？？黨國歷史教你的嗎？！
不就是番又看到沉船 殺死日本人五六十人