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@@CzechMateTrainingHomosexuality was not defined in the bible. There are certainly references to same sex behaviour, but as the word “homosexual” didn’t exist until 1868, when it first appeared in a German Medical Paper, the understanding of the people composing Biblical literature can’t be assumed to be the same as a more recent understanding of non-heterosexual sexual behaviour. The narrative in this broadcast makes that perfectly clear.
Is that the reason why it tastes salty, because of the salty seamen? You can avoid tasting it by shoving the member in deep. That’s what my friend told me as I’ve never done that.
No, more like were censored and or ostracized. Much of classical writing likes to put that under the rug despite gay people's history and contributions.
I love how people criticized my comment as if they were experts themselves. But whatever makes you feel better. Maybe this way, you won't feel the need to try to make someone else feel bad. 🤣
@@Rassoukine H.I.M the Tsar Ferdinand I., he of most blessed memory, would have APPROVED FULLY, Rassoukine! ,No, not 'coincidence' but rather necessity as Mother Nature dictates that it be available optionally, just as that other.) As speaking of him here in writing, how befitting it is that H.I.M. is now repatriated to there in this year with honors -- the fact of the advent bringing great credit I believe to present day Bulgaria. I look forward one day to visiting there and as well, to Montenegro, Romania and Albania.
Anytime I see someone claim Anne Bonny and Mary Read are lesbians, I die a little. This is coming from a misunderstanding of theatrical tropes within A General History of the Pyrates, and from a one sentence section from the 1725 rip off, History and Lives of Notorious Pyrates. That says they were lovers, but its so sloppily written that its hard to gauge meaning. Jump forward to the 1910s when the famous sexologist Magnus Hirshfeld just casually says Mary Read was a lesbian, and the 1970s when feminist Susan Baker wrote an article for The Furies Magazine amusingly titled, Anne Bonny and Mary Read They Killed Pricks. After that its just basically looping itself over and over. Utterly bizarre, and of course very much not true.
Modernity is so brainrotted and hypersexualized they think any close relationship is sexual. Look how dirty these degenerate professors did the reputation of Ancient Greece.
It was my understanding that both Reade and Bonny pleaded for leniency due to pregancy during their Trials, and at least one of them is confirmed to have delivered , quite the feat for a Lesbian.
@@mikebryant614 Actually umm, both claimed to be pregnant, but this was so common of the era, it was actually very easy to fake being pregnant by the nature of Jury of Matron examinations. Read definitely died in April 1721, of what who knows. No mention of any children baptized or buried at the time. Its a real open question.
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez I agree ,bonny did go on to have children after her father bought her release but if one of them was from during the trial time i dont know , i found this bit about Read after a google search "did mary read have children" but it isnt definitive : " Answer and Explanation: Possibly none. Mary Read was not executed because of a pregnancy, but she died of a fever on April 28, 1721. She is believed to have died with her child or shortly after giving birth, which the child may not have survived."
around 30 minutes it is said the low countries were especially antagonistic towards sodomy not the right wording... the netherlands (the calvinist republic) were, but the austrian netherlands (Belgium and Luxembourg) were not, in fact Belgium was the among the first countries to decriminalize homosexuality when it laid down it's constitution in 1830. while the netherlands, indeed, kept it punishable to the 1950's!
@@jamesmiller4184 Its more of a catholic thing then and real sympathy or tolerance to words queer people, it was largely only protestant (at least in Europe) countries that had Strick anti-sodomy laws.
1:56 I think a great example of how different it was to now or the victorian era, was a very popular song from around 1730 till 100 years later called Black Joke, black joke meant female genitalia. With the main refrain being "Her black joke and her belly so white" the song was bascially a comedy song about the best lady of the night in the world and all the funny things her clients got up to including some clients who it would have been socially unacceptable to be with her. They even HMS Black Joke, so even navy ships were named after the song. It would be the equalivant of calling a ship today USS WAP and nobody even giving it a second thought
Hey ! If I may add an ingredient to your already very honourable pronounciation of french words : the final e is mute, unless it's a é. "Bougre" can be read "bougr". Generally speaking, the last letter of a word is mute, or can at most transform the pronounciation of the second-to-last. These letters generally an artifact from the latin or germanic roots of the word. For instance, the sentence "j'ai raté" ("I missed") would have the final e pronounced exactly as you did with "bougre" in the video. (wich would read "bougré", which is a form I don't think it existed.) Whereas in "je rate" ("I miss", or "I'm missing") "rate" would be pronounced almost exactly like the english "rat". (The final t sounds.) (And of course, "rat" in french (the classic rodent) would be pronounced "ra" like the egyptian god. Unless you name him Rê, or Ré but I'm out of my depth here.) You've already got it totally accurate for Olivier Levasseur ("Olivier" = "olivié" and "Levasseur" with the final r pronounced. Yeah the "r" is an exception to the generality above. Yeah I know my language is not intended to be read at all. Only makes me appreciate your efforts even more. It would take me a big time to get as fluent in Swedish as you are in French) (And of course I'm speaking about modern french. If you have any specific information about it being different in old french, I'm eager to learn :p )
I play Irish music (fiddle, tin whistle), and there’s actually an older song called "I Am A Maid That Sleeps In Love"-which you can find on YT recorded by the band Solas-and its lyrics provide a small glimpse into a homoerotic captain… in a way. Long story short, a boy-crazy girl (or young woman?) follows her "love" aboard a ship he's leaving on, by simply dressing as a sailor boy, and being recruited by the captain! I’m assuming it’s a pirate ship, or something "non-sanctioned", because she is so easily is recruited, while disguised as a male. I don’t know that the navy would be that easy to infiltrate. They’d probably have fully nude strip searches and physicals. Not saying a pirate ship would be any easier to infiltrate, but just comparatively speaking. That’s how obsessive she was. She says she’ll cut off her "yellow locks" and "men’s clothing I’ll wear-on". She ends up being recruited on the same vessel as her boy, dressed as a boy. Then somehow, apparently, 'his' (her) bed is in the captain’s quarters? Or very close… or the captain snuck in to whisper this to 'him': _The very first night that the Captain laid down on his bed to sleep, these very words he said to me: "I wish you were a maid…your cherry cheeks and ruby lips, they’ve often enticed me… I wish to the gods, unto my heart, a maid you were to me."_ So… sexual tension at sea (already on the first night?!) apparently caused this captain to begin noticing the "Ruby lips" and "cherry cheeks" of his fellow shipmates… and this one just so happened to be a female, in disguise. Wonder what else he was noticing and wishing for…
Actually easy enough to infiltrate that several women did disguise themselves as men and join navies and armies back then. A small percentage might have been what we call "trans FtM" there was one veteran who lived as a man his whole life and only was discovered to have been born female really late while in the process of dying of old age but most of them only took on a male persona to get around legal restrictions and immediately went back to living as women when they were finished needing their male character.
I have a couple of books which either suggest or record straight out that there is a history of homosexual contact of one sort of another in the navy and merchant marine. "Ashore it's wine women and song, but at sea it's rum bum and the concertina" - the late George Melly, a well-known British jazz musician. In an autobiography another writer was at sea in a Naval vessel during WWII. The captain told him to "Just go for'rard and tell those two men to move the other side of the gun turret. They were having sex and were visible from the bridge. Nothing more was done.
Very nice and balanced look in this topic! I hope it stays monetized but it is indeed risky. Have to add that while I see pirate society of inherently "straight" at the onset, there were indeed these elements out there sometimes a bit different from this. I must say there is perhaps something a bit sexual in some of the pirate punishments for example, like sweating half naked men while stabbing their butts with sword or humiliations like marooning naked (of course the wanted to steal the stuff), mutilations, cannibalism etc. more humiliation or sadism of course but also a bit kinky at times too when you look at it. I do not mean here to associate people with different sexuality automatically to these kind of things, of course, but still there is perhaps something kinky repressed or expressed there somewhere at least. Anyway one has to be careful not to read too much into it. Cheers!
Just because history doesn't mention something during a particular period doesn't mean it didn't exist. Taking going to the bathroom. In certain periods it's never talked about, but we can assume they did it because it's a natural function. The same thing applies toward law enforcement: just because one period shows a high conviction rate and another period shows low rates doesn't mean the acts are lower. It only means that conviction is lower. Take traffic law enforcement. During the 70s we see statistics showing lots of speeding tickets. During the 2010s we see statistics of few speeding tickets. However, judging by data from traffic flow monitors, we see that there was actually a greater tendency to speed when the enforcement was lower. One highway monitored showed 98% of drivers speeding excessively. Yet, there was very little enforcement, with tickets only given after accidents happened, or if an officer witnessed the driver performing other illegal stunts or dangerous stunts while also speeding. Human instinct towards sexuality probably hasn't changed since ancient times. Ancient Philosophers explained these instincts with much less political, cultural or social laws pressing them to bend reality and twist the truth around. The same held true for Science, especially among the Ancient Greeks, who invented Geography and mathematically explained the Globe of the Earth to a GREATER precision that was known by Christopher Columbus thousands of years later. The same holds true for Human Sexuality as a Science. We're totally still in the dark ages of the Medieval Period as far was understanding goes, still in the dark due to requirements of law and culture. The fact is that those Pirates never considered themselves gay, as an identity, they just understood themselves to be regular males. And, in fact, they were. Sexuality is only abnormal when it's done as rape or molestation. Otherwise, it's normal for males to be attracted to Eros, and if Eros lusts for them, after courtship, then it's natural to have the relationship consummated, and it's natural for the viral male to protect his beauty queen from harm, protect and educate beloved offspring, or to mentor the beauty queen if needed.
This comments section really brings out the more unsavory and butthurt fans of history. Just wait until they hear half of cowboys were people of color and many were gay! 😂
You beat me to it, but I was thinking of what psychologists refer to as "situational homosexuality" - i.e. straight men who did not suffer from a Puritan morality simply "getting their rocks off"
Some Chinese pirates were also gay, it is said that they love boys because they rarely see women all year round. The famous Chinese pirate Cheng I kidnapped 15-year-old Cheung Po Tsai in 1798, it is said that Cheng I fell in love with Cheung Po Tsai because of his good looks, and later adopted him as his adopted son. (This is a rumor. I don’t know if Cheng I really fell in love with him.)
It's actually well known, if not well documented. That not just pirates, but regular sailors who were at Sea for months or even years on end without the company of women. Often turned to other shipmates. The cabin boys or any younger boys or men were often seen as more attractive options for these lonely men. I wouldn't necessarily classify these men of the Sea Gay exactly. Maybe closer to Bisexual actually. Because the vast majority of them even if they had lovers amongst the crew. Would pursue women while in foreign ports and or once returning home.. It is said to have been quiet common in almost every ship at sail for any length of time.
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if you wanna see some pirate sex on film, the closest i'd say exists is that Oliver Reed Greco-Roman wrestling scene in the movie Women In Love, they got the mustaches and beards right.
Nice video as always, pretty original and interesting topic, on a very smaller note as a french i just wanted to say that I appreciate the efforts in the french prononciation and I perfectly understand your english but I'm allowing myself to clarify a little bit the way of spelling "bougre", it's perfeclty fine except for the end, the "e" is'nt prononced "é" or english "a" but is kind of like the american way of saying "u" in "hum" if that can help.
Cmoooon, worst kept secret. Everyone pretending how there was no "Shivering of timbers" on that "booty" . A bit of friendly boarding actionn between consenting cutthroats to pass the time
I think heterosexual people looking at statistics about homosexual people is very… odd. It’s like homosexual people looking at statistics on heterosexual people and making certain assumptions. Those assumptions would be wild and extremely unrepresentative of actual heterosexuals. Just ask gay people. It is quite simple.
Back in the old days, all different kinds of people were drawn into piracy on the high seas. While 'buggery' was an illegal act, pirates, however, were unlikely to have enforced the law. It's likely that some pirate crews would have had a gay sexual culture. Wooden sailing ships of the time would have been a perfect setting for it.
not exactly, Johnny Depp himself was allegedly open to the character being gay before the movie, and Disney were close to cancelling him specifically because he was "too gay"
Is this where the term butt 🏴☠️ came from? Edit: You literally addressed that within 15 seconds of the start. And this is an unworthy post for how intelligent your analysis is.
It's evident that jobs and workplaces traditionally exclusive to men tend to attract homosexual men. Similarly, industries and workplaces where attractive men are prevalent, such as fashion, makeup, and fitness, also draw a significant number of homosexual men.
Androgenous love is básico parte of male bonding especially in absence of females like on long Voyages or jail, etc ... Bisexual behaviour in natura is the norm, not exeption?
Because the video, despite what the title says, actually isn't asking if pirates were gay, because that's a stupid question, it's actually a video about the topic of Sodomy in the Age of Pirates. . . which has an hour of information.
Mate how many historical documentaries are titled as questions? This is a place to share information and give context to the realities of the period and the available evidence. History and life itself rarely operates in black and white, so nuance is required to properly inform the viewer. Ya clicked on a history video my guy.
I must say that this presentation IS splendid! However the polls taken as-cited really cannot be depended-upon, as denial will always skew them when regarding THIS subject. Mother nature makes ALL of Her human males as polymorphous-sexual (from the clinical term for it) and therefore ambi-sexual. Here not silly denials nor polls might make this truth as obviated. Not in-the-least could they. Nature commands; we do squat! (WHEN are we to ever learn?)
I assume pirates (and all other sailors at the time) were much like men in prison. Without morality policing from Christians they simply adapted their sexuality to the circumstances of their lives
I never thought I'd hear "Butt pirate" used outside of primary school. I'm admittedly a bit shocked to see it holding relevance in an earnest conversation. Is this the full circle we've come to? I feel like we accomplished something here.
You must be running out of things to document on pirates.. it kinda goes without saying, doesn't it? Of course there were gay pirates. Why not? Please for the love of pirates can you please cover figurehead of ships?
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I personally don't like the pride movement. But history is history.
Also what's up with the accent? :DD
@PekkaErareika there’s several things wrong with that pfp 💀
@@CzechMateTrainingare you referring to that book full of mythical stories?
RU kidding moi?
@@CzechMateTrainingHomosexuality was not defined in the bible. There are certainly references to same sex behaviour, but as the word “homosexual” didn’t exist until 1868, when it first appeared in a German Medical Paper, the understanding of the people composing Biblical literature can’t be assumed to be the same as a more recent understanding of non-heterosexual sexual behaviour. The narrative in this broadcast makes that perfectly clear.
rainbow seamen
You’ve made my day captain 🫡
Goddamnit
"Gay" laddies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
He’s the “buggermaster general”
Is that the reason why it tastes salty, because of the salty seamen? You can avoid tasting it by shoving the member in deep. That’s what my friend told me as I’ve never done that.
Gay people have existed everywhere since the beginning of time. They just didn't talk about it.
No, more like were censored and or ostracized. Much of classical writing likes to put that under the rug despite gay people's history and contributions.
Yea no… if they talked about most would have been killed… so them not talking about it doesn’t mean what you say it does.
I love how people criticized my comment as if they were experts themselves. But whatever makes you feel better. Maybe this way, you won't feel the need to try to make someone else feel bad. 🤣
@@oscarvasquez6806 got that right or be prosecuted!....for no reason!
So which one of you is the expert then exactly. Because only one of you can be the only gay expert in the village
"Why are butt pirates, butt pirates? They just arrrrgh."
"Fruits!"
@@orksy2935 nice someone got it
Aye matey!
Ouch 😢
When pirates hit that prostate “Aaaarrrgggh!”
That bone on that thumbnail flag is looking quite hard might I say
I didn’t notice that until I read your comment! Haha, thanks ;)
I'm not gonna lie, I laughed at the idea that one of the words for being a homosexual in old france meant "to be a bulgarian" lol
Oh how the tables turn don't most people say that about the French now XD or is that just an American thing 🤔
Well, it`s pretty much correct ! I`m Bulgarian, so gay too. Coincidence? lol
@@Rassoukine H.I.M the Tsar Ferdinand I., he of most blessed memory, would have APPROVED FULLY, Rassoukine!
,No, not 'coincidence' but rather necessity as Mother Nature dictates that it be available optionally, just as that other.)
As speaking of him here in writing, how befitting it is that H.I.M. is now repatriated to there in this year with honors -- the fact of the advent bringing great credit I believe to present day Bulgaria.
I look forward one day to visiting there and as well, to Montenegro, Romania and Albania.
Like Italians who say Greeks are all gay bottoms and Greeks who say the same about Italians. Ha. I've topped lots of both.
Anytime I see someone claim Anne Bonny and Mary Read are lesbians, I die a little.
This is coming from a misunderstanding of theatrical tropes within A General History of the Pyrates, and from a one sentence section from the 1725 rip off, History and Lives of Notorious Pyrates. That says they were lovers, but its so sloppily written that its hard to gauge meaning.
Jump forward to the 1910s when the famous sexologist Magnus Hirshfeld just casually says Mary Read was a lesbian, and the 1970s when feminist Susan Baker wrote an article for The Furies Magazine amusingly titled, Anne Bonny and Mary Read They Killed Pricks.
After that its just basically looping itself over and over. Utterly bizarre, and of course very much not true.
They were lesbians and I won’t hear otherwise.
Source: I made it up in my own sexual fantasy.
Modernity is so brainrotted and hypersexualized they think any close relationship is sexual.
Look how dirty these degenerate professors did the reputation of Ancient Greece.
It was my understanding that both Reade and Bonny pleaded for leniency due to pregancy during their Trials, and at least one of them is confirmed to have delivered , quite the feat for a Lesbian.
@@mikebryant614 Actually umm, both claimed to be pregnant, but this was so common of the era, it was actually very easy to fake being pregnant by the nature of Jury of Matron examinations. Read definitely died in April 1721, of what who knows. No mention of any children baptized or buried at the time.
Its a real open question.
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez I agree ,bonny did go on to have children after her father bought her release but if one of them was from during the trial time i dont know , i found this bit about Read after a google search "did mary read have children" but it isnt definitive : " Answer and Explanation: Possibly none. Mary Read was not executed because of a pregnancy, but she died of a fever on April 28, 1721. She is believed to have died with her child or shortly after giving birth, which the child may not have survived."
around 30 minutes it is said the low countries were especially antagonistic towards sodomy not the right wording... the netherlands (the calvinist republic) were, but the austrian netherlands (Belgium and Luxembourg) were not, in fact Belgium was the among the first countries to decriminalize homosexuality when it laid down it's constitution in 1830. while the netherlands, indeed, kept it punishable to the 1950's!
Interesting that the Belgians came to realization of the inevitable so early.
Duly noted for future reference and use.
@@jamesmiller4184 Its more of a catholic thing then and real sympathy or tolerance to words queer people, it was largely only protestant (at least in Europe) countries that had Strick anti-sodomy laws.
“Worst of all, he was a catholic” 😂😂😂
wow 50 % of all RCC Priests ar gay say Insiders in Vatican ...Homoluja Amen
Il need to make more accounts and leave this more likes
1:56 I think a great example of how different it was to now or the victorian era, was a very popular song from around 1730 till 100 years later called Black Joke, black joke meant female genitalia. With the main refrain being "Her black joke and her belly so white" the song was bascially a comedy song about the best lady of the night in the world and all the funny things her clients got up to including some clients who it would have been socially unacceptable to be with her. They even HMS Black Joke, so even navy ships were named after the song. It would be the equalivant of calling a ship today USS WAP and nobody even giving it a second thought
Thumbnail goes hard though
Grampa pirate comes back from two years in the Caribbean with ear rings and a braded beard...
Any port in a storm
😂
Have you looked at "Unruly Desires: American Sailors and Homosexualities in the Age of Sail"? I found it very interesting
Hey ! If I may add an ingredient to your already very honourable pronounciation of french words : the final e is mute, unless it's a é. "Bougre" can be read "bougr".
Generally speaking, the last letter of a word is mute, or can at most transform the pronounciation of the second-to-last. These letters generally an artifact from the latin or germanic roots of the word.
For instance, the sentence "j'ai raté" ("I missed") would have the final e pronounced exactly as you did with "bougre" in the video. (wich would read "bougré", which is a form I don't think it existed.) Whereas in "je rate" ("I miss", or "I'm missing") "rate" would be pronounced almost exactly like the english "rat". (The final t sounds.)
(And of course, "rat" in french (the classic rodent) would be pronounced "ra" like the egyptian god. Unless you name him Rê, or Ré but I'm out of my depth here.)
You've already got it totally accurate for Olivier Levasseur ("Olivier" = "olivié" and "Levasseur" with the final r pronounced. Yeah the "r" is an exception to the generality above. Yeah I know my language is not intended to be read at all. Only makes me appreciate your efforts even more. It would take me a big time to get as fluent in Swedish as you are in French)
(And of course I'm speaking about modern french. If you have any specific information about it being different in old french, I'm eager to learn :p )
I play Irish music (fiddle, tin whistle), and there’s actually an older song called "I Am A Maid That Sleeps In Love"-which you can find on YT recorded by the band Solas-and its lyrics provide a small glimpse into a homoerotic captain… in a way. Long story short, a boy-crazy girl (or young woman?) follows her "love" aboard a ship he's leaving on, by simply dressing as a sailor boy, and being recruited by the captain! I’m assuming it’s a pirate ship, or something "non-sanctioned", because she is so easily is recruited, while disguised as a male. I don’t know that the navy would be that easy to infiltrate. They’d probably have fully nude strip searches and physicals. Not saying a pirate ship would be any easier to infiltrate, but just comparatively speaking. That’s how obsessive she was.
She says she’ll cut off her "yellow locks" and "men’s clothing I’ll wear-on". She ends up being recruited on the same vessel as her boy, dressed as a boy. Then somehow, apparently, 'his' (her) bed is in the captain’s quarters? Or very close… or the captain snuck in to whisper this to 'him':
_The very first night that the Captain laid down on his bed to sleep, these very words he said to me:
"I wish you were a maid…your cherry cheeks and ruby lips, they’ve often enticed me… I wish to the gods, unto my heart, a maid you were to me."_
So… sexual tension at sea (already on the first night?!) apparently caused this captain to begin noticing the "Ruby lips" and "cherry cheeks" of his fellow shipmates… and this one just so happened to be a female, in disguise. Wonder what else he was noticing and wishing for…
Actually easy enough to infiltrate that several women did disguise themselves as men and join navies and armies back then. A small percentage might have been what we call "trans FtM" there was one veteran who lived as a man his whole life and only was discovered to have been born female really late while in the process of dying of old age but most of them only took on a male persona to get around legal restrictions and immediately went back to living as women when they were finished needing their male character.
I have a couple of books which either suggest or record straight out that there is a history of homosexual contact of one sort of another in the navy and merchant marine. "Ashore it's wine women and song, but at sea it's rum bum and the concertina" - the late George Melly, a well-known British jazz musician. In an autobiography another writer was at sea in a Naval vessel during WWII. The captain told him to "Just go for'rard and tell those two men to move the other side of the gun turret. They were having sex and were visible from the bridge. Nothing more was done.
Very interesting aspect, thank you
Q: WHY couldn't Oscar Wilde have written the "Canterbury Tales"?
A: Because, everybody KNOWS, that, "BUGGERS can't be CHAUCERS!"
Ight guys we’re watching the hour long video on queer pirates.
Ight
lgbt
Yar har, queen
Ight? What does this mean? 🧐
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate 🏳️🌈🏴☠️
Very nice and balanced look in this topic! I hope it stays monetized but it is indeed risky. Have to add that while I see pirate society of inherently "straight" at the onset, there were indeed these elements out there sometimes a bit different from this. I must say there is perhaps something a bit sexual in some of the pirate punishments for example, like sweating half naked men while stabbing their butts with sword or humiliations like marooning naked (of course the wanted to steal the stuff), mutilations, cannibalism etc. more humiliation or sadism of course but also a bit kinky at times too when you look at it. I do not mean here to associate people with different sexuality automatically to these kind of things, of course, but still there is perhaps something kinky repressed or expressed there somewhere at least. Anyway one has to be careful not to read too much into it. Cheers!
14:33 "...[A]nd the choir boys, of course." Ah, there's "Nothing new, under the Sun," as the saying goes!
This is the content we need !! Thank you
WHAT ELSE DID THEY HAVE TO DO!?....DER!
Absolutely wonderful video, as always.
Sexuality exists on a continuum from fully straight to fully gay. There is no boundary between one and the other.
That would be incorrect since people can also find cars and plastic toy horses attractive
@@DG-iw3yw You speak from experience?
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Throw me another cabin boy, this one is split? 😂
.... the TURKEY? sounds like Thanksgiving had double entendre on his farm!
Buggering the turkey is insane
Just because history doesn't mention something during a particular period doesn't mean it didn't exist. Taking going to the bathroom. In certain periods it's never talked about, but we can assume they did it because it's a natural function. The same thing applies toward law enforcement: just because one period shows a high conviction rate and another period shows low rates doesn't mean the acts are lower. It only means that conviction is lower. Take traffic law enforcement. During the 70s we see statistics showing lots of speeding tickets. During the 2010s we see statistics of few speeding tickets. However, judging by data from traffic flow monitors, we see that there was actually a greater tendency to speed when the enforcement was lower. One highway monitored showed 98% of drivers speeding excessively. Yet, there was very little enforcement, with tickets only given after accidents happened, or if an officer witnessed the driver performing other illegal stunts or dangerous stunts while also speeding. Human instinct towards sexuality probably hasn't changed since ancient times. Ancient Philosophers explained these instincts with much less political, cultural or social laws pressing them to bend reality and twist the truth around. The same held true for Science, especially among the Ancient Greeks, who invented Geography and mathematically explained the Globe of the Earth to a GREATER precision that was known by Christopher Columbus thousands of years later. The same holds true for Human Sexuality as a Science. We're totally still in the dark ages of the Medieval Period as far was understanding goes, still in the dark due to requirements of law and culture. The fact is that those Pirates never considered themselves gay, as an identity, they just understood themselves to be regular males. And, in fact, they were. Sexuality is only abnormal when it's done as rape or molestation. Otherwise, it's normal for males to be attracted to Eros, and if Eros lusts for them, after courtship, then it's natural to have the relationship consummated, and it's natural for the viral male to protect his beauty queen from harm, protect and educate beloved offspring, or to mentor the beauty queen if needed.
This comments section really brings out the more unsavory and butthurt fans of history. Just wait until they hear half of cowboys were people of color and many were gay! 😂
You beat me to it, but I was thinking of what psychologists refer to as "situational homosexuality" - i.e. straight men who did not suffer from a Puritan morality simply "getting their rocks off"
Arrrrgh! Is that yer yard-arm, or er ye just happy to SEE me?
42:22 Ha! I'll be stealing that line, thank you!
"my dear… Any Port in a storm!". Giggidy.
Happy pride month, folks!
Yarr! Happy pride month, mateys.
👎🤮
Yikes.
Happy pride month 💜💜💜
Happy Dino month!!!
Some Chinese pirates were also gay, it is said that they love boys because they rarely see women all year round.
The famous Chinese pirate Cheng I kidnapped 15-year-old Cheung Po Tsai in 1798, it is said that Cheng I fell in love with Cheung Po Tsai because of his good looks, and later adopted him as his adopted son. (This is a rumor. I don’t know if Cheng I really fell in love with him.)
It's actually well known, if not well documented. That not just pirates, but regular sailors who were at Sea for months or even years on end without the company of women. Often turned to other shipmates. The cabin boys or any younger boys or men were often seen as more attractive options for these lonely men. I wouldn't necessarily classify these men of the Sea Gay exactly. Maybe closer to Bisexual actually. Because the vast majority of them even if they had lovers amongst the crew. Would pursue women while in foreign ports and or once returning home..
It is said to have been quiet common in almost every ship at sail for any length of time.
"Piratically-Dominated"... what a great fucking line! haha! that one put you over the top... you have officially earned yourself my subscription. 🔔❕
Wow. Fantastic. you have earned my subscription by way if your subscription being earned by this person. CONGRATULATIONS PLEASE DO NOT SPEND IT ALL AT ONCE
What did they use for lube and where dose the cabin boy fit in ?😮
I was going to say i thought pirates were one of the parts of history where the homosexuality is played up, not down.
if you wanna see some pirate sex on film, the closest i'd say exists is that Oliver Reed Greco-Roman wrestling scene in the movie Women In Love, they got the mustaches and beards right.
Yar, mateys! Part yer nates!!! Ugh-gug-gug-gug-gug!
If only I could force my friends to watch this video every time they start debating about “gay” stuff in history
45:28 A world record?! Ha! maybe if it was just a quick sunset cruise!
That sounds more like a solid, though not atypical weekend...
Would you be open to reviewing Netflix's "Lost Pirate Kingdom" docu-series and judging its historical accuracy?
WOW !
My gaydar has always thought Pirates had red flags for this very reason.
I was too afraid to mention it.
I'm glad you did.
Red flags??
Nice video as always, pretty original and interesting topic, on a very smaller note as a french i just wanted to say that I appreciate the efforts in the french prononciation and I perfectly understand your english but I'm allowing myself to clarify a little bit the way of spelling "bougre", it's perfeclty fine except for the end, the "e" is'nt prononced "é" or english "a" but is kind of like the american way of saying "u" in "hum" if that can help.
Grab your what!?!?!?!?
Cmoooon, worst kept secret. Everyone pretending how there was no "Shivering of timbers" on that "booty" . A bit of friendly boarding actionn between consenting cutthroats to pass the time
all i can think is the people that want to try to use the past to identify with them now sexually probably wouldnt if they did even a little research
When ever men are isolated from women situational homosexualy
Is vary common so no doubt pirate's no doubt would have participated in it
Even when women ARE available, homosexuality is extremely common.
Gay in french, means joyeous.
I think heterosexual people looking at statistics about homosexual people is very… odd. It’s like homosexual people looking at statistics on heterosexual people and making certain assumptions. Those assumptions would be wild and extremely unrepresentative of actual heterosexuals. Just ask gay people. It is quite simple.
Only a particular kind of pirate was gay
Ya - all of 'em.
Back in the old days, all different kinds of people were drawn into piracy on the high seas. While 'buggery' was an illegal act, pirates, however, were unlikely to have enforced the law. It's likely that some pirate crews would have had a gay sexual culture. Wooden sailing ships of the time would have been a perfect setting for it.
It would explain how the word fanny changed from England to America
44:14 very funny line of reasoning
Very much interesting, thank you for the video. Subscribed!
Lmfao 😂 the character of captain jack sparrow never struck me as “gay” or “homosexual”
me neither but google "jack sparrow gay" and you'll find all the popular enough opinions you need for evidence
He's flamboyant, but not in a zesty way, more like a pimp or something.
There's a bit in the last film where he's encouraging one of the female characters to keep getting undressed, so not sure he is gay. He's probably bi.
@@GoldandGunpowderperverted sodomite redditors casting their perversion onto everything
not exactly, Johnny Depp himself was allegedly open to the character being gay before the movie, and Disney were close to cancelling him specifically because he was "too gay"
salty seamen
Don't tell Disney
I want to live in your fantasy world where Disney is some progressive lgbtq company
great vid new sub
When i sail i lay on top of my fellow sailors out of tespect for how they raise the mast
Wasn't the biblical story about Sodom about the people being punished for NOT offering their daughters to visitors?
That's just a theory. A gay theory. Lol. I see what you did there. I'm telling Matt Pat!
Is this where the term butt 🏴☠️ came from? Edit: You literally addressed that within 15 seconds of the start. And this is an unworthy post for how intelligent your analysis is.
Betty White is on screen from 3:46 to 3:58.
Clearly a topic that warrants an hour long video
It's evident that jobs and workplaces traditionally exclusive to men tend to attract homosexual men. Similarly, industries and workplaces where attractive men are prevalent, such as fashion, makeup, and fitness, also draw a significant number of homosexual men.
Oh yes the men's bathroom atracts a lot of homossexuals
Happy pride month
Any Port in a Storm !!!
XAR!
"It was ok if they kept to themselves" what are you?
Being that they were British, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Come to think about it I’ve been a Gay pirate 🏴☠️ 🏳️🌈 many times for Halloween 👻
Androgenous love is básico parte of male bonding especially in absence of females like on long Voyages or jail, etc ... Bisexual behaviour in natura is the norm, not exeption?
Hello LGBTQ community
Beware of Homer's sexuality!
hahah!
*Sigh* Why is this an hour video when it could be just as profitably reduced to ONE word- “Sometimes”
because the purpose is not to answer the question, any one of my videos can be reduced to less than a minute, but that is not why they're watched
Because the video, despite what the title says, actually isn't asking if pirates were gay, because that's a stupid question, it's actually a video about the topic of Sodomy in the Age of Pirates. . . which has an hour of information.
Mate how many historical documentaries are titled as questions? This is a place to share information and give context to the realities of the period and the available evidence. History and life itself rarely operates in black and white, so nuance is required to properly inform the viewer. Ya clicked on a history video my guy.
I must say that this presentation IS splendid!
However the polls taken as-cited really cannot be depended-upon, as denial will always skew them when regarding THIS subject.
Mother nature makes ALL of Her human males as polymorphous-sexual (from the clinical term for it) and therefore ambi-sexual. Here not silly denials nor polls might make this truth as obviated. Not in-the-least could they.
Nature commands; we do squat! (WHEN are we to ever learn?)
This explains a lot….
I assume pirates (and all other sailors at the time) were much like men in prison. Without morality policing from Christians they simply adapted their sexuality to the circumstances of their lives
Butt pirates are first recorded in the golden years of pirates. Keep researching.
LOVE GAY
I never thought I'd hear "Butt pirate" used outside of primary school.
I'm admittedly a bit shocked to see it holding relevance in an earnest conversation.
Is this the full circle we've come to? I feel like we accomplished something here.
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arghhh im gay
The same problem with all vlogs ! It never got to the subject advertised 1 Thumbs down !
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Answer to your video is: nobody cares.
It’s over an hour long. . .
Joining the military brings many out of the closet. After WWII, many gay soldiers moved to New York or San Francisco.
Happy pride month! I love Lesbians, gotta be my favorite gender.
thanks for the money but I still can't get em to sleep with you LOL
@@GoldandGunpowdertell that to Mary Read. 😎
@@GAIVSCALIGVLAShe's mine. Even if I'm the lesbian and she isn't!
You must be running out of things to document on pirates.. it kinda goes without saying, doesn't it? Of course there were gay pirates. Why not? Please for the love of pirates can you please cover figurehead of ships?
I see you making a lot of video requests, I don't see you coughin up the cash. I've got videos planned for the next 10 years or so, don't worry.
He literally got an hour’s worth of content out of this, how is that an indication ideas are running dry?
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Don’t care about this topic one bit!
cared enough to comment and respond to another comment
@@GoldandGunpowder Absolutely! I care about being offered something I don’t like, or something that seems to support a certain political view, when the channel has never gone in that direction before.
if you believe that this video supports a certain political view, then you didn't even watch the first 5 minutes of the video, let alone the entire length of it
>the channel has never gone in that direction before
Gold & Gunpowder: makes videos discussing slavery, torture, prostitution, rape, murder, child abuse, veneral diseases
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@@dartmart9263Baby want tailor made pirate videos
I'd be "gay" if I had such jolly adventures 😉
I was really hoping the term "butt pirate" would be uttered in this video, and goddammit, you delivered
personally I prefer "rump rogue"
It's one of my favorite terms in Dutch because it also rhymes: "bilnaad piraat" = buttcrack pirate
@@GoldandGunpowder I prefer sphincter scallywag
@@jean-lucpicard3012most of the butt piracy going on in the world is committed by heterosexual people. Just sayin 😊
Buggermaster General was pretty funny too