The brilliant thing about Sir Humphrey was that although he could talk for hours about nothing he could just as easily distill anything or everything down into one poignant sentence.
I work in housing and once I sat through a 90 minute lecture at the start of which we were told to work to plans less and work more to situations, and then we were told to be less reactive to situations and plan more to help the procurement team. I then sat down to a wee clip of Yes, Minister, to remind me that this sort of thing happens even in the highest echelons of government.
Did you have the “we no longer use targets...... now we use forecasts” What’s the difference? Effectively nothing, but you can truthfully say “we don’t use targets” All the people I know who’ve made great success of their civil service career are able to parrot Sir Humphrey speeches at will.......I’m not one of them :-(
I met her when I was ten years old, it was the early 90s and it was a primary school trip. We were at the end of Downing Street and the copper said told that teachers that she's on her way back so we could go and stand outside Number 10. Mental by today's standards. They let a group of school kids down there to just look around. Sure enough ten minutes later she rocked up in the state Jag. She didn't have to pay us any attention, there were no cameras, this was no press opportunity. She spent half an hour talking and listening to a bunch of ten year olds talk nonsense. Not for gain, but because somewhere in there she actually gave a shit about people. I still never voted tory though!
How Mrs. Thatcher loves Sir Humphrey! I wonder that "romantic dream" she once had about Sir Humphrey is probably about how she managed to beat him on some issue.:-)
I often wonder if, in real life, senior public servants look down upon their political masters. Sir Humphrey had a good point in that Ministers have no training or qualifications for the job to which they're appointed whereas a departmental head has years of training and experience. It represents a fundamental flaw in the democratic ideal: the idea that any member of the public has the capacity to make decisions at that level.
@@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus The idea is that the elected representatives vote for or against laws in parliament in a manner that reflects the will of their electorates. Further still, in the Westminster System, the executive is selected from members of the parliament and is answerable to the parliament. The parliament creates a range of committees whereby ministers and senior public servants are called to account by the committee members. If Yes Minister is even close to the truth, the civil servants are the ones who keep reign on the misconceived policies that Ministers think up. Of course the other important factor in this are the lobby groups who have a massively disproportionate influence on government policy. Combine this with the 2-tiered democracy that has evolved whereby those who can afford to pay significant quantities of money in political donations get preferential access to Ministers whilst the rest of the population gets fobbed of with the standard marketing blurb and its not difficult to conclude that the general public have next to no political power beyond making a choice between two or three major political parties every so often.
Well, given that seniour civil servants get paid more than politicians, I dare say that they likely do. You're also correct in that the system of government is many different flavours of fucked, but given that Democracy is in many ways a clever way to hide tyranny behind so many walls of bureaucracy that (compared to the standard model of dictatorship) manages to get that perfect ideal where those with power have little responsibility, while those with responsibility have little power. In many ways it's working perfectly - for everyone except those that live under it or around it.
I have the original DVD box sets of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. Because I am all for supporting the artists and other people working hard to produce each such piece of art (and I am an Indian, we are usually considered as the biggest movies and music pirates), and I buy a lot of British comedy series. They're collectibles. However, your short videos here on RUclips are real mood lifters when we need a quick reboot of brain. Can you please share this whole interview (even if in parts)? Or if you can share where can I find it.
This interview (which like most of my other uploads is NOT included on any DVD set) is all there is about Yes Minister. It was part of the BBC's 50th anniversary in 1986. I selected the right excerpt from it. Similarly some of my other videos are fragments about YM from documentaries and charity fundraisers. I am surprised to get so many visitors from all over the world. But perhaps there is something of Yes Minister in all governments everywhere.
Oh, Yes Minister is a classic. In India they adapted it to make the Indian version, called "Jee Mantri ji" (means, "Yes, Minister"), with really good stage and art films actors. Those actors made more justice to the Yes Minister original casts, than their 2013 remake British casts. Ok, coming back to your comment, can you share the complete video of the BBC's 50th anniversary documentary/interviews? I am a big fan of BBC documentaries/shows - like these Britcoms, I also have DVDs of David Attenborough's shows like Life and Planet Earth.
Humphrey Appleby Yes, even if it's not about shows, but in general, people like Margaret Thatcher speaking about British shows and BBC. I am sure it will have many informative things to know, and worth listening to.
Spicy Boy If I find the file I will keep it in mind. I found it on a website which may not be legal in your country. The full name is "That's Television Entertainment 50 Years of BBC (1st November 1986)". Is the Indian Yes Minister spoken in English? Or does it have English subtitles?
Apart from it taking too much time, I wouldn't upload original episodes because they are INSTANTLY detected and removed. Even this video was already marked as containing copyrighted material not 1 minute after upload.
I highly doubt it because the leadership isn't really the problem with Brexit and the division across the country is and no leader can really fix that as we've found with May and Boris, hence why it likely will go back to the people again.
Love Ms. Thatcher... wonderful Prime Minister and woman. Would have loved to sit down for tea and discuss politics with her. No politicians speak so intelligently anymore.
@@YesMinisterMuseum lol right deceiving yet the marxist media and millions of their sheep were so brilliant to see through it. If they were deceiving she should have been worker harder to fool them first. More like they crafted their own image of her.
@@YesMinisterMuseum yes, you literslly have every media loving the UN, they are all globalist....either open borders for free trade or open borders for mass 3rd world immigration into white countries.
I've always hated Maggie, but after she went gaga, I must admit she did do something good; British cars did get better, didn't they? Anyway; Thanks for the late reply, although it wasn't what I was hoping for. Well my good chap; Keep up the good work, and we'll all have a merry good time ;-)
Kinnock was such a REAL and warmly human respondent in his interview, yet Thatcher -- not even for one moment -- ever left her intellectual sanctuary of serious, egotistical supremacy to get her own way and provide real world opinionatedness ... even against a fictitious character!
How does this have so many likes when you can't hear a bloody thing but heavily distorted &completely unintelligible voices. The audio quality is an insult.
@@TheNefastor You're right, Stalin wouldn't try to win a debate with you he'd just have you shot; whereas Thatcher wouldn't try to win, she'd just win whether you like it or not through sheer force of personality - even if she is, as facts would later present themselves; wrong. I'm honestly not sure which I'd rather deal with.
She hated the show apparently and was so angry at the enormous popular response to it, and the way it undermined politics, she was forced to make a statement saying it was her favourite show on TV.
what people don't realise was thatcher was the daughter of a lower order shop owner....she hated that with a vengeance, and made the working class suffer, whilst her cronies wallowed expensive bubbly. and other things.....all paid for.....yes....you guessed it...the good old british tax payer.....she left office with a bulging bank balance.....plus..her old man never done a stroke of work in his life....I await your tory stupid replies...
Really? She fought against joining the EU so britons could control their own economy. The economy boomed under Thatcher. If you want to see misery in Britain look back at the period before she was elected. Unions grounded the country toba halt, and there was skyrocketing inflation.
The character of Sir Humphrey Appleby is an accurate representation of a senior public servant, he can talk for hours and say nothing.
Or he says that his minister is superfluous window dressing while the civil service runs the government and prevents chaos.
The brilliant thing about Sir Humphrey was that although he could talk for hours about nothing he could just as easily distill anything or everything down into one poignant sentence.
they seem to have increasingly shared this skillset with the politicians
@@brendancskinner Well of course, his intention is to obfuscate.
Maggie being a fangirl. Very refreshing change.
If Appleby was Principal Secretary to Thatcher there would be frequent grinding of teeth and out-of-ear-shot exclamations of "that impossible woman".
... And that "impossible woman" pinching Sir Humphrey's ear to get his full attention.
it is quite charming that she performs a little minuet, as she the words "verbal minuet" come out.
(2:30)
Very appropriate audio: nothing in the left and hard distortion in the right.
Sorry, can't fix it without reuploading the whole thing.
No worries! :)
Just as Thatcher.
@ Wellington Boobs - yea, can't say that isn't accurate. ;p
Best RUclips comment of the year?
I work in housing and once I sat through a 90 minute lecture at the start of which we were told to work to plans less and work more to situations, and then we were told to be less reactive to situations and plan more to help the procurement team.
I then sat down to a wee clip of Yes, Minister, to remind me that this sort of thing happens even in the highest echelons of government.
Did you have the “we no longer use targets...... now we use forecasts”
What’s the difference?
Effectively nothing, but you can truthfully say “we don’t use targets”
All the people I know who’ve made great success of their civil service career are able to parrot Sir Humphrey speeches at will.......I’m not one of them :-(
We must move forward, not backwards. Side wards, not forwards. And ever twirling. Twirling our way towards freedom!
Mrs. Thatcher, very clear in her thoughts and their expression,assertive with ability to take bold decisions...........
A great person.
Hahaha! Good joke!
@@YesMinisterMuseum
Take your nastiness elsewhere.
She likes Sir Humphrey Appleby.
Well everyone like Sir Humphrey in this series. Well aside from Bernard and Jim of course.
Beautifully created and spoken by a genius.
She was ruthless, you have to admire that. Even if you disagree with her politics.
ISIS is ruthless, you have to admit that. Even if you don't like their politics.
No you don't have to admire anything about a rotten creature.
I met her when I was ten years old, it was the early 90s and it was a primary school trip. We were at the end of Downing Street and the copper said told that teachers that she's on her way back so we could go and stand outside Number 10. Mental by today's standards. They let a group of school kids down there to just look around. Sure enough ten minutes later she rocked up in the state Jag. She didn't have to pay us any attention, there were no cameras, this was no press opportunity. She spent half an hour talking and listening to a bunch of ten year olds talk nonsense. Not for gain, but because somewhere in there she actually gave a shit about people. I still never voted tory though!
Ah, why should one "... have to admire .." ruthlessness? You sound like a companion fascist to her.
@@thedolphin5428 You don’t know the first thing about facism you little weasel.
How Mrs. Thatcher loves Sir Humphrey!
I wonder that "romantic dream" she once had about Sir Humphrey is probably about how she managed to beat him on some issue.:-)
abolishing economists, for instance?
The ex-PM: "I think that I might get my way."
the longest serving pm in history that is
@@Luckydobb Of 20th century onwards
She would, her voice is a velvet dagger
I often wonder if, in real life, senior public servants look down upon their political masters. Sir Humphrey had a good point in that Ministers have no training or qualifications for the job to which they're appointed whereas a departmental head has years of training and experience. It represents a fundamental flaw in the democratic ideal: the idea that any member of the public has the capacity to make decisions at that level.
The ideal is that the elected representatives keep a reign on the tyrannical ideas of those who run the government apparatus.
@@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus The idea is that the elected representatives vote for or against laws in parliament in a manner that reflects the will of their electorates. Further still, in the Westminster System, the executive is selected from members of the parliament and is answerable to the parliament. The parliament creates a range of committees whereby ministers and senior public servants are called to account by the committee members.
If Yes Minister is even close to the truth, the civil servants are the ones who keep reign on the misconceived policies that Ministers think up. Of course the other important factor in this are the lobby groups who have a massively disproportionate influence on government policy. Combine this with the 2-tiered democracy that has evolved whereby those who can afford to pay significant quantities of money in political donations get preferential access to Ministers whilst the rest of the population gets fobbed of with the standard marketing blurb and its not difficult to conclude that the general public have next to no political power beyond making a choice between two or three major political parties every so often.
Well, given that seniour civil servants get paid more than politicians, I dare say that they likely do. You're also correct in that the system of government is many different flavours of fucked, but given that Democracy is in many ways a clever way to hide tyranny behind so many walls of bureaucracy that (compared to the standard model of dictatorship) manages to get that perfect ideal where those with power have little responsibility, while those with responsibility have little power.
In many ways it's working perfectly - for everyone except those that live under it or around it.
Democracy doesn't claim to be the optimum system. The main feature of it is that it gives you political freedom and freedom of speech and rights
@@nandi7772 What a lovely and inspirational idea. I'm 60 this year and would love to meet people with the energy your analysis requires.
"Grain of truth in them" 😊
thank you for sharing. loved this clip.
The moment you switch off capslock, I will.
I have the original DVD box sets of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. Because I am all for supporting the artists and other people working hard to produce each such piece of art (and I am an Indian, we are usually considered as the biggest movies and music pirates), and I buy a lot of British comedy series. They're collectibles. However, your short videos here on RUclips are real mood lifters when we need a quick reboot of brain.
Can you please share this whole interview (even if in parts)? Or if you can share where can I find it.
This interview (which like most of my other uploads is NOT included on any DVD set) is all there is about Yes Minister. It was part of the BBC's 50th anniversary in 1986. I selected the right excerpt from it. Similarly some of my other videos are fragments about YM from documentaries and charity fundraisers.
I am surprised to get so many visitors from all over the world. But perhaps there is something of Yes Minister in all governments everywhere.
Oh, Yes Minister is a classic. In India they adapted it to make the Indian version, called "Jee Mantri ji" (means, "Yes, Minister"), with really good stage and art films actors. Those actors made more justice to the Yes Minister original casts, than their 2013 remake British casts.
Ok, coming back to your comment, can you share the complete video of the BBC's 50th anniversary documentary/interviews? I am a big fan of BBC documentaries/shows - like these Britcoms, I also have DVDs of David Attenborough's shows like Life and Planet Earth.
Spicy Boy Sadly I do not have it on this computer. But the rest of it is NOT a documentary about individual shows.
Humphrey Appleby
Yes, even if it's not about shows, but in general, people like Margaret Thatcher speaking about British shows and BBC. I am sure it will have many informative things to know, and worth listening to.
Spicy Boy
If I find the file I will keep it in mind. I found it on a website which may not be legal in your country. The full name is "That's Television Entertainment 50 Years of BBC (1st November 1986)".
Is the Indian Yes Minister spoken in English? Or does it have English subtitles?
I'm glad you think so, Prime Minister.
What a tragedy that Thatcher's mind went before her end.
Nothing tragic about that!!!
Like all greats 👍
Yes, right around 1978.
Love it!!!
Oh god, this was when Margaret Thatcher was referring to herself in the third person like she was the Queen and the "Soul of the Nation". What a burk.
I'm worried about by my sanity as I actually understood Sir Humphrey
Best post-war PM
Sorry to hear that
Apart from it taking too much time, I wouldn't upload original episodes because they are INSTANTLY detected and removed. Even this video was already marked as containing copyrighted material not 1 minute after upload.
so Nigel Hawthorn got a #knighthood for complete guidance to the serious press wire @1999 from Thatcher's cabinet
I love Margaret Thatcher. Fascinated by her strong character, her intelligence and her beauty. Wish she could be the Australian PM.
The great lady herself. Wish she was here now to sort out this brexit crap. She would sort it in 1 day, max!
I highly doubt it because the leadership isn't really the problem with Brexit and the division across the country is and no leader can really fix that as we've found with May and Boris, hence why it likely will go back to the people again.
Big shots buying time to secure their wealth and still control from overseas
Now we yearn for the days when Brexit was the most difficult thing we had to sort out.
Sir Humfrey would let the Baroness believes she got her way
Ah, the RH Kinnock!
Very much like how she was I guess. I don't like her but I can't deny she liked to fight and win... Damn the repercussions.
Yea, the soft ice is a great invention. Unfortunately I have become lactose intolerant and can't enjoy it anymore ;-(
No lactase tablets where you live?
The times were far less worse in 1986,
Yes Minister was filmed on videotape
Crap. So we'll never get a BluRay version, then...
wow
Well,Margaret Thatcher,we all saw through you!If only James Hacker was a REAL Prime Minister Britain wouldn't be such a mess.
Margaret Thatcher might get her way with Humphrey, sometimes. With Sir Arnold Robinson? Not a chance.
How did Neil Kinnock know that is is like the real thing considering he never held Ministerial Office?
This reminded me how Kinnock always came across as smug and sententious, and Thatcher as affected and pretentious.
What is this from specifically?
Love Ms. Thatcher... wonderful Prime Minister and woman. Would have loved to sit down for tea and discuss politics with her. No politicians speak so intelligently anymore.
You know what they say about appearances...
@@YesMinisterMuseum lol right deceiving yet the marxist media and millions of their sheep were so brilliant to see through it. If they were deceiving she should have been worker harder to fool them first. More like they crafted their own image of her.
@@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus The marxist media, right, I get the picture here.
@@YesMinisterMuseum yes, you literslly have every media loving the UN, they are all globalist....either open borders for free trade or open borders for mass 3rd world immigration into white countries.
What's wrong with your sound?
The first guy looks and sounds like Sir Frank. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gordon
That' Neil Kinnock, leader of the Labour party in the 1980s.
I've always hated Maggie, but after she went gaga, I must admit she did do something good;
British cars did get better, didn't they?
Anyway; Thanks for the late reply, although it wasn't what I was hoping for.
Well my good chap; Keep up the good work, and we'll all have a merry good time ;-)
I appear to have gone deaf in my left ear :(
Sorry, can't fix it without reuploading the whole thing.
Kinnock was such a REAL and warmly human respondent in his interview, yet Thatcher -- not even for one moment -- ever left her intellectual sanctuary of serious, egotistical supremacy to get her own way and provide real world opinionatedness ... even against a fictitious character!
my right ear enjoyed this
It's just not important enough to reupload for.
Imagine Jeremy Clarkson in this show
I'd rather not. I like him but he's nowhere near subtle enough...
I'd imagine that James May would fit perfectly!
Now that I see
Maggie actually looks like May 😁😂😅
How does this have so many likes when you can't hear a bloody thing but heavily distorted &completely unintelligible voices. The audio quality is an insult.
The idea of Margaret Thatcher roaring with laughter makes my blood run cold.
Oh, come on now. It was a long time ago and she's been in her grave for years.
Damn, you talk about her as if she was Stalin. Calm down !
@@TheNefastor You're right, Stalin wouldn't try to win a debate with you he'd just have you shot; whereas Thatcher wouldn't try to win, she'd just win whether you like it or not through sheer force of personality - even if she is, as facts would later present themselves; wrong.
I'm honestly not sure which I'd rather deal with.
@@Neion8 really ? You'd hesitate between Stalin and Thatcher ? Well, I guess now everyone knows you flunked history.
Literally the last face anyone wants to see when they're looking for comedy.
ding dong.....lallalalalalalalala ding dong lalalalalalalalalala...
Hey, Maggie isn't all bad.
No, she has much improved recently.
hahahahahahaha
Yes she was! A complete monster!
Imagine thinking that you can see through Sir Humphrey. Margie you have no idea mate, he's out of your league.
2:09 马勒戈壁，我已经听懵了。
Z IM lists is the
She hated the show apparently and was so angry at the enormous popular response to it, and the way it undermined politics, she was forced to make a statement saying it was her favourite show on TV.
Have no idea where you got this notion. She absolutely loved it as far as I can tell. But of a fangirl even.
Too bad that Sir Humphrey wasn't around in real life to professionally guide Thatcher to masterful inactivity.
what people don't realise was thatcher was the daughter of a lower order shop owner....she hated that with a vengeance,
and made the working class suffer, whilst her cronies wallowed expensive bubbly. and other things.....all paid for.....yes....you guessed it...the good old british tax payer.....she left office with a bulging bank balance.....plus..her old man never done a stroke of work in his life....I await your tory stupid replies...
I'm aware that Mrs Thatcher was the illegitimate grand daughter of Lord Norwich..
Really? She fought against joining the EU so britons could control their own economy. The economy boomed under Thatcher. If you want to see misery in Britain look back at the period before she was elected. Unions grounded the country toba halt, and there was skyrocketing inflation.
what on earth makes you think Dennis Thatcher never did any work?
It's only 1986 and she's already using the royal 'we'. Can you imagine how deranged she was by 1990?
She means “we” as in her cabinet colleagues.
saw Kinnock turned off. A boring man.
I hated her too
Though on the good things; not forgetting that ice cream related business
Sacked by her own cabinet later, clearly you're a master tactician Margaret 🙄
Wish we could do that on this side of the pond.
The show was fun but that lady was horrible. Now the witch is dead.
Someone seems to believe the media...