Please, read the book by André Carl van der Merwe (born 4 January 1961), is a South African novelist. His first book, entitled Moffie, is an autobiographical novel based on diaries he kept as a teenager and during his compulsory National service. It's a masterpiece. According to WorldCat, the book is held in 168 libraries, and was made into a movie, also called Moffie, by Oliver Hermanus in 2019.
In that southern Angola bush war, they also fought side by side with other races, including blacks, against the enemy. I also know because I was there. It would have also been more historically accurate if that Sergeant was a Corporal, a two-liner.
Someone did once interview me, and then added it to a book he wrote, about it. And, quite a number of books have been written about it. I have a good long term memory, and into creative writing. I did once start writing down all I could remember about it, got about a third of the way, and then moved on to other things.
Well, it'd be cool to read what you wrote published or not. I'm fairly interested in the happenings of South Africa and rhodesia during that time period.
There is a student-made film called "At thy call"on RUclips where the drill instructor is a corporal. I thought I read on the Wikipedia page for the SADF that there was not segregation. However, a regular at work who is colored (mixed-race in the US) told me that because he was not white he was not ineligible for infantry, only for support staff. However, he said that whether a particular unit was integrated or not was at the discretion of it's commander.
This is such incredibly powerful movie, definitely in my Top 20 best gay movies eveeer... Worth a watch, growing up and living in South Africa, it was compulsory to do National Service after we finished our Matric. I was one of those who experienced exactly this... 🎖🎖🎖🏆🏆🏆🌈🌈🌈
From what I can see, there was not a unit with that beret colour and badge combination. The closest to it being Infantry, with that badge and greet beret. The black berets incidentally were Intelligence Corps and Mechanics (nickname Tiffies.) Maybe it was intentional in the movie, so as not to indicate a specific unit. The black beret could also have a racial symbolism.
Having served (conscripted) in the SADF 83-85 there are some parts that are realistic but the rest is typical exaggerations -( not going to get into the whole gay part) white supremacists etc. we were 17 and 18 year olds 1 - the part at railway station that would not happen. We fought along blacks and if we were caught doing what those guys did in that scene we would be in deep trouble . 2- goodness knows what unit this was supposed to be .. the insignia does not match any SADF unit that I remember. The title Moffie is equivalent to what Americans refer to pussy " don't be such a pussy or sissy" in SA " don't be such a moffie" .. but with gay connotations. Anyway, I need to watch this movie to be able give better feedback
17 and 18 year olds living in a system of racial apartheid where they were considered better than other races did not express racist views and take racist actions? Pretty hard to believe as that happens in every racial caste system ever.
I watched the movie and let me say , Ik I would of beat the shit out of the Sargent if he treated me the way he treated the troops and ik most people who watched the film can say the say the same. there’s no way you let someone treat you like an animal no matter how bad the situation is.
Plenty of people in positions of authority abuse people and are able to quash most resistance. Really hard to say exactly what you would do in the situation, just imagining it from the outside.
Says the chap who is still unable to write in full sentences. IK, sorry, I know; that you would be the first to break. By your statement alone I know this.
@@laylalacey It was one of the most dissaopointing movies I have ever watched, there wasnt really a focus on the development on these characters, and it was really strange and disorganized.
I thought the story line had such potential but this movie is an utter failure. This is a tale of brutal cruelty, racism, homophobia all rolled into one and believe me, it is not pretty. I'm not sure what the movie was supposed to tell me. I only saw a visualization of things I already knew or assumed. And the ending? Was it purposely vague or wasn’t it? I’m not sure and really don’t care. Regardless of what the trailer says, this is not a masterpiece in my opinion!
Imo broke back mountain worked way more because as a straight man, that movie isn’t just a “gay cowboy movie ” like a lot of others say. It’s way more than that.
Can u imagine complaining about apartide racism, oh I'm not really into that or being gay us turn up dead parents would get a letter saying oh he killed himself
I didn't know what the plot was, or what was the main story, and the end was kind of wtf. No climax or nothing interesting. At first I tought they were going to settle the plot but after half the movie nothing really happened.
@Random-sk6hm Not wrong about defense force SA was at its prime during this time , only thing that made this period terrible was the blatant bigotry of white government. Now SA is both still a racist country to anyone who isnt black and without any of the financial or military merits of the past . Worst of both worlds
we learn from our past. Today's youth did not live through WWII or learn the history and now we see the rise of violent authoritarian regimes globally.
Read 1-2 verses in front, You shall not mix your fabrics, eat pig and a bunch more stuff before that so if you want to pick and choose from the bible follow it to the bone and not the surface, please and thank you.
You are quoting from a book that depicts a talking snake, a man having survived being swallowed by a whale, and a human being turning into a salt pillar, not to mention the legitimization of the owning of slaves, incest, racism, etc. THAT book?
You are quoting from a book that depicts a talking snake, a man having survived being swallowed by a whale, and a human being turning into a salt pillar, not to mention the legitimization of the owning of slaves, incest, racism, etc. THAT book?
Good film until all the homosexuality scenes are pushed onto you. And it's not even central to the film. So what's the point? Seems like the gay angle was forced into the plot as lip service to certain groups. Ruins the flow of the movie.
@@Shinobi33 I didn't know either when I caught the movie on Hulu. I looked it up afterwards which is how I found out. Turns out it wasn't a surprise for the South African viewers, since the title of the movie is literally a pejorative term for gay people.
@@Shinobi33 I don't understand why people and basically men and straight having an issue when a film has a gay love story. It is part of life. In life you have gay love stories lesbian love stories, straight love stories. NO one is forcing anything. The problem is your perception.
@@yannos2007 I don't have a problem with gay people. I have a problem with the gay and leftist agenda being pushed on us by the film and Television industry. Oh and btw if you think these rich liberals care about gay or any people in general you're sadly mistaken. Any time a gay man or woman comes out against a liberal issue they're ostracized and targeted for abuse. So what's your response now?
Why did it take *_three years_* for this trailer to come up in my "recommended" list? 🤨
Ikr
Fr 😅😂😂
Me too 😂
Am glad am not the only one.
SAME WTF 😭
Please, read the book by André Carl van der Merwe (born 4 January 1961), is a South African novelist.
His first book, entitled Moffie, is an autobiographical novel based on diaries he kept as a teenager and during his compulsory National service.
It's a masterpiece.
According to WorldCat, the book is held in 168 libraries, and was made into a movie, also called Moffie, by Oliver Hermanus in 2019.
Please read the book by my uncle, Gordon Torr, about Aubrey Levine , the psychologist that ran Greefswald. I'll check out André Carl van der Merwe
Thanks. 🇿🇦
In that southern Angola bush war, they also fought side by side with other races, including blacks, against the enemy. I also know because I was there. It would have also been more historically accurate if that Sergeant was a Corporal, a two-liner.
You should write a book or let someone interview you. That would be a fascinating story to hear.
Someone did once interview me, and then added it to a book he wrote, about it. And, quite a number of books have been written about it.
I have a good long term memory, and into creative writing. I did once start writing down all I could remember about it, got about a third of the way, and then moved on to other things.
Well, it'd be cool to read what you wrote published or not. I'm fairly interested in the happenings of South Africa and rhodesia during that time period.
There is a student-made film called "At thy call"on RUclips where the drill instructor is a corporal. I thought I read on the Wikipedia page for the SADF that there was not segregation. However, a regular at work who is colored (mixed-race in the US) told me that because he was not white he was not ineligible for infantry, only for support staff. However, he said that whether a particular unit was integrated or not was at the discretion of it's commander.
Segregation may have been the case in South Africa, including basic training, but not on the border.
Eu gostaria muito de assistir o filme moffie mais não encontro só encontro vídeos alguém tem o link por favor
This is such incredibly powerful movie, definitely in my Top 20 best gay movies eveeer...
Worth a watch, growing up and living in South Africa, it was compulsory to do National Service after we finished our Matric.
I was one of those who experienced exactly this...
🎖🎖🎖🏆🏆🏆🌈🌈🌈
From what I can see, there was not a unit with that beret colour and badge combination. The closest to it being Infantry, with that badge and greet beret. The black berets incidentally were Intelligence Corps and Mechanics (nickname Tiffies.) Maybe it was intentional in the movie, so as not to indicate a specific unit. The black beret could also have a racial symbolism.
Different beret badge colours in the South African and American Armies, obviously.
The South African Special Forces one, and Parabats, being purple.
Bueno, cuando alguien como en este caso te dice: no soy como tú de esa forma esta claro que reprime sus sentimientos, es triste pero cierto.
Asimismo
Por si acaso tienes el enlace o te sabes alguna página para ver la peli??
También estoy buscándola y no la encuentro. 🙏🏼@@gaaradelaarena2287
Disturbing but a good movie. Not so good but a must watch...
Where can I watch it?
I don’t recommend it . Very disappointing.
Having served (conscripted) in the SADF 83-85 there are some parts that are realistic but the rest is typical exaggerations -( not going to get into the whole gay part) white supremacists etc. we were 17 and 18 year olds 1 - the part at railway station that would not happen. We fought along blacks and if we were caught doing what those guys did in that scene we would be in deep trouble . 2- goodness knows what unit this was supposed to be .. the insignia does not match any SADF unit that I remember. The title Moffie is equivalent to what Americans refer to pussy " don't be such a pussy or sissy" in SA " don't be such a moffie" .. but with gay connotations. Anyway, I need to watch this movie to be able give better feedback
U have a Serbian last name..?
so did you watch?
17 and 18 year olds living in a system of racial apartheid where they were considered better than other races did not express racist views and take racist actions? Pretty hard to believe as that happens in every racial caste system ever.
The insignia and beret were made up for the movie so as to not indicate any real unit for legal reasons
This movie covers the Aversion Project, did you have any connections with it?
I watched the movie and let me say , Ik I would of beat the shit out of the Sargent if he treated me the way he treated the troops and ik most people who watched the film can say the say the same. there’s no way you let someone treat you like an animal no matter how bad the situation is.
Plenty of people in positions of authority abuse people and are able to quash most resistance. Really hard to say exactly what you would do in the situation, just imagining it from the outside.
I pay hookers to put cigarettes out on my balls. Just sayin
does it have a happy ending?
Tough guy. See Full Metal Jacket. Same situation.
Says the chap who is still unable to write in full sentences. IK, sorry, I know; that you would be the first to break. By your statement alone I know this.
what langguage is that??? can somebody tell me....
Afrikaans
Afrikaans.
English
@@Random-sk6hm The trailer uses both Afrikaans and English
OK. No spoiler. But, one question from me:
Sad or happy ending?
I saw the movie and I don't really know.
@@spookym123 : Did you enjoyed it?
@@adietsiikodiet For the most part, yes.
@@spookym123 : OK, thanks. I'll give it a try then. 😊
A gay soldier conscripted into a homophobic, racist military goes to war...not exactly happy ending material
Is it worth watching movie ?
You just did
nope
@@drleperaleaf3166 Why
@@laylalacey It was one of the most dissaopointing movies I have ever watched, there wasnt really a focus on the development on these characters, and it was really strange and disorganized.
wow!
Please read the book by my uncle, Gordon Torr, about Aubrey Levine , the psychologist that ran Greefswald. I'll check out André Carl van der Merwe
What was the song in the trailer??
is any version of Sugar Man - Sixto Rodriguez
@@vannnderleibonfim thanks love
where has this been shown already?
Oh thank God a non movie link comment
@@everlong4320 hahaha yeah mate, what is up with these movie link comments? it's crazy
I agree. I'm in South Africa, and I'll just watch it on the local streaming site, Showmax.
Did yall end up finding it?
What the name song minite 1.17
sugar man - Rebecca Thompson
Crazy how the trailer was cut. It was all like “forget about the conscription of youths to promote and carry out apartheid, here’s a cute love story”
I always thought Lonnie was one of the Best Looking Men in my Class.
I couldn't understand the end of the movie??
It's an open ending, you can believe whatever you want
@@cyrupc5409 ıhhımmm i prefer the happy and obvious ending😄😄
Butt he could actually die, better than dead
It's a happy ending :)
@@Random-sk6hmIt's not a happy ending. It's terribly sad ending.
I thought the story line had such potential but this movie is an utter failure. This is a tale of brutal cruelty, racism, homophobia all rolled into one and believe me, it is not pretty. I'm not sure what the movie was supposed to tell me. I only saw a visualization of things I already knew or assumed. And the ending? Was it purposely vague or wasn’t it? I’m not sure and really don’t care. Regardless of what the trailer says, this is not a masterpiece in my opinion!
I totally agree. This movie could’ve been so much more . It didn’t make me care for the main characters . And the ending was an epic fail.
Imo broke back mountain worked way more because as a straight man, that movie isn’t just a “gay cowboy movie ” like a lot of others say. It’s way more than that.
I love this movie
The song behind?
ruclips.net/video/b6FThT8wqoQ/видео.html
@@athollhay3207 what about the beginning song what’s that instrumental playing?
@@caldupi6569 Ah, that is music specifically composed for the movie by Braam du Toit
@@athollhay3207 thank you hopefully I can find it.
@@caldupi6569 Probably not online as no soundtrack for the movie has yet been released.
Can u imagine complaining about apartide racism, oh I'm not really into that or being gay us turn up dead parents would get a letter saying oh he killed himself
Isn't anyone going to comment on the clear subversion here?
Or do I have to?
nah bro I can smell it miles away
its sad that they wont make an actually good film about the SADF.
@@heavysix439 Like all people things, the SADF had good and bad. Bad will sell, so that's what we're gonna see.
I didn't know what the plot was, or what was the main story, and the end was kind of wtf. No climax or nothing interesting. At first I tought they were going to settle the plot but after half the movie nothing really happened.
How about a movie about the EFF?
Back when South Africa still had a decent defense force and arms manufacturer.
No.
@Random-sk6hm
Not wrong about defense force
SA was at its prime during this time , only thing that made this period terrible was the blatant bigotry of white government.
Now SA is both still a racist country to anyone who isnt black and without any of the financial or military merits of the past . Worst of both worlds
Which beat up old people tortured black children cutted fingers of people who refused to do wat they told
reminds me a bit of the IDF
Adoro filmes que se propõe a mostrar que o amor gay está em todos os lugares .♥️
Are'nt chinese white?
ummmmmm. I don't know anyplace Chinese people are considered White. I believe in S. Africa they would have been classified as coloured under apartheid
Moffie wat n teluerstelling.
As an South African and a gay man I absolutely hate the word Moffie and Kafer it's so disrespectful
Violence...it has come to Entertainment! Get rid of it!
we learn from our past. Today's youth did not live through WWII or learn the history and now we see the rise of violent authoritarian regimes globally.
This movie is so good! A must-watch for all queer people.
MOVIE ! ,👍👍✊
Back in the days when South Africa was still wealthy and had 24 hour electricity.
😭😂
Wait you guys don't have electricity?
@@Random-sk6hm we do but we have lights out schedules
@@kidd_drator4126 Damn. I'm British and assumed that SA was similar to us
@@Random-sk6hm our parliament is a shit show they ran a good country with potential to the ground
I just know that I know that I didn't hear a white guy said the k word
You did😂😂😂💔, you heard it proud and load and not just 1 in the movie its a whole ass group of them
not in the trailer as most trailers cut out obscene slurs, ets
'Toxic Masculinity: The movie.' 😅
Is this a gay love story>
No, it's a documentary about pumpkin growing.
like this movie
And why name it a derogatory term 🤣🤣
If you watch the movie you will understand ....
@@athollhay3207 no sorry I do understand 😓😩
@@yourlocalindiekid3552 It's a comment on the homophobic atmosphere of the Apartheid military
To comment on the themes of the movie
starts off kino but turns super homosexual
Yessir
Juanita Prairie
22. You must not lie with a man as with a woman; that is an abomination.
Leviticus 18:22
Read 1-2 verses in front, You shall not mix your fabrics, eat pig and a bunch more stuff before that so if you want to pick and choose from the bible follow it to the bone and not the surface, please and thank you.
Do you also have a problem with divorce and sex before marriage. Better yet, are you currently wearing mixed cloths?
You are quoting from a book that depicts a talking snake, a man having survived being swallowed by a whale, and a human being turning into a salt pillar, not to mention the legitimization of the owning of slaves, incest, racism, etc. THAT book?
"If you can eat shrimp, we can eat cock."
More wokenesss
its literally biographical - it happened in real life. Are you just playing dumb?
@@Sttz545 dumb is believe this happened
Lol go away wokie
In Genesis chapter 19 verse 4 thur 15, Gomorrah and Sodom was destroyed because of Homosexuality.
You are quoting from a book that depicts a talking snake, a man having survived being swallowed by a whale, and a human being turning into a salt pillar, not to mention the legitimization of the owning of slaves, incest, racism, etc. THAT book?
The bible is fiction, and not very good fiction.
Reporting you for misinformation.
No it was because of lust and sleeping with angels. You don’t even understand ur own doctrine.
Good film until all the homosexuality scenes are pushed onto you. And it's not even central to the film. So what's the point? Seems like the gay angle was forced into the plot as lip service to certain groups. Ruins the flow of the movie.
The movie is based on an autobiographical book. There is no forced gay angle, the guy from the source material was just gay.
@@Meirsteinoh I didn't know that sorry. It came off as an angle they working in the story.
@@Shinobi33 I didn't know either when I caught the movie on Hulu. I looked it up afterwards which is how I found out. Turns out it wasn't a surprise for the South African viewers, since the title of the movie is literally a pejorative term for gay people.
@@Shinobi33 I don't understand why people and basically men and straight having an issue when a film has a gay love story. It is part of life. In life you have gay love stories lesbian love stories, straight love stories. NO one is forcing anything. The problem is your perception.
@@yannos2007 I don't have a problem with gay people. I have a problem with the gay and leftist agenda being pushed on us by the film and Television industry. Oh and btw if you think these rich liberals care about gay or any people in general you're sadly mistaken. Any time a gay man or woman comes out against a liberal issue they're ostracized and targeted for abuse. So what's your response now?