PLO LUMUMBA - Politicians you're not leading fools, respect Kenyans
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Savage politics is a platform where we have hard-hitting political conversations with the aim of informing and transforming. The show is hosted by Cyrus Jirongo, a long time Kenyan politician and businessman who's been in the political space since the early 1990s. Cyrus Jirongo the host on this episode shares on a one time he had a confrontational experience with former president Moi.
PLO Lumumba the Pan-Africanist is on savage politics breaking down Kenyan and African politics and how it affects the citizens and development. He shares on the effects of bad politics and why Kenyan leadership started to deteriorate over the years. Lumumba gives insights on how countries have developed from poor to top of the world with the hope other nations and leaders can learn from such. Cyrus Jirongo the host also shares on his confrontational experience with former president Moi.
00:01 - Show introduction.
01:01 - Leadership in Kenya vs the different administrations
03:53 - How Kenyan leadership started to deteriorate.
04:52 - How the richest Kenyans made their wealth.
06:02 - President Moi creating political millionaires.
09:30 - Bad politics driving businesses and ethnicity in Kenya.
11:30 - Unemployment vs availability of resources and why we're not resourceful.
17:07 - Labor exports from Kenya and the danger of it
18:03 - How countries are running their countries for development.
19:12 - Political bad manners cannot be cured through the constitution.
24:30 - The political quagmire in Kenya and how to re-engineer leadership
30:00 - The president must lead in changing public service
33:45 - The top leadership in Kenya is the problem
36:00 - Politicians lack visionary leadership
38:29 - Jirongo's confrontational experience with President Moi
42:30 - Cancer cases in Kenya and why they are high in Meru region and its environs
43:35 - Ethnic politics vs ethnic diversity as a resource
49:50 - Uniting ideas, inclusivity for all and culture for development
53:03 - African culture and what Africa wants
1:00:10 - What Kenyans want.
For me as african from the Gambia i want PLO to be the chairman of the AU who is with me
Actually yes!! He has more credentials as a Pan Africanist crusader throughout the continent.it is my considered view,he has indepth knowledge of dynamism and leadership of African politics.this diversity has to be experienced,which he has in plenty!!
Yessss
Those thieves in African politics would not permit it to happen because they pretty well know that they will be exposed.
Oh yes,,,,I'm with you my brother
Preachers drink more wine.
Lumumba talking about the Moi millionaires/billionaires and Jirongo is one ...is really top tier hard hitting
Meaning???🤔 did Jirongo acquire his millions as u say through hard honest Work? Questionable ways? Honest Application of skills? Hyena type ways? 😯🧐🤔 just asking...cuz there are honest hard workers among us.. Pro Lumumba raised some of his past experiences 🤷🏾♂️🤔
PLO is a real son of the soil who is well-versed with the knowledge of our mother land Africa... should be the chairman of AU.
Koigi wa wamwere,Gitobu Imanyara,Anyang Nyongo,Paul Muite,Muturi Kigano would be extremely exciting guests.
Though leadership and planning waned over time
True these guys are of good experience in politics for long
We need this big names on the bench
As a South African, I really enjoyed the conversation and how both gentleman voiced their views, which is the truth. Africa needs quality leaders that can provide African solutions. I agree with the closing statements that it is now time that Africa stop blaming its past and colonizers, we should not look for reparation from the foreign countries. Solutions to our problems rests on an African child. It all starts with good leadership that creates a conducive environment.
That introduction of hyenas and lions sums up who jirongo is . That is exactly what he did to Kenya in the infamous YK 92 together with his former friend now a foe Ruto
Clearly, being away from politics brings one back into senses.
This channel will be a platform where sober politicians,opinion shapers and scholars will be able to freely articulate their ideas,vision and dissecting our political environment which is always on a bumpy ride.great time to alive.thank you CJ
You can't put political Hygiene, integrity and Cyprus Jirongo in one sentence....Jirongo was a billionaire who was leader of YK-92. That outfit engaged in retrogressive politics then, so he has no moral value to tell us about integrity.
And Ruto was his handman back then......
This is my exact same issue.
Kibaki was the top of class. When he went to London School of Economics he got a First Class and the Queen awarded him. We got the best during that time 💫
Those are the pioneers who convoluted education systems in Africa. Do you know that US and UK does not recognize African degree qualifications? Why, because the Mzungu already had an idea how to choreograph stooges starting with Tom Mboya Airlifts to date after 'independence'. They allowed art and political scientist as leaders but very few doctors and engineers and what have you in the technical areas, But at the end of it all, the African has never asked himself enough WHY question.
Lies lies and big fat lies, there is nothing Mr. Kibaki did but a con thief land grabber and he is rotting in hell and he was a criminal traitor tribalist corrupt neptic and he missed the chance to make Kenya great again
Wonderful conversation, all african leaders if they implement what was Lumumba said, our continent will the best continent in the world.
40.00 is why you are here after that Toxic waste revelation. Give a like 😊
😊 Thanks
I am surprised that any Kenyan who was post-high school in 1990 does not have this information. Only millennials and later generations genuinely don't know the rest are feigning ignorance
Let jirongo tell us something about YK 92!
It won't help in anything
@@jeremyleakingpen1565 it may bring closure
The Genesis of looting
That will bring zakayo into the darts game
He will do that in due time,ones he releases his book
Cyrus Jirongo is an elder and a legend now,what happened in the past should be put aside.He has realized and I think has regrets whatever mischiefs he did if there were.
At an older age,human beings are more closer to their after life than their herelife.
Regrets? LOL you've been played
He should return all proceeds of crime then.
Why 500 was called Jirongo?.
Mr CJ being a host,? Never saw that coming but I like it!
This Forum is a fantastic initiative Hon. Jirongo. Invite Dr. Mukhisa Kitui and Barrack Muluka to dissect the current governance and political economics.
Barrack mulaka was good before seating on the eating table
How dare you call that YK92 thief honourable?
Prof is also a good teacher in law.
PLO Lumuba is the Excellent Leader for AU
This is a robust engagement. The quest for hygiene in politics and governance in Kenya and the rest of Africa
I love the WISDOM PLO has and shares with all who are ready to listen! Brilliant 🎉
I pray to God to protect this man plo Lumumba so that one day I talk to him before I conquer and unite Afrika 🙏🏽🇨🇩☝🏽
From this interviews anyone born in the 2000s and above would complete have a different perspective of Mr CJ.
The example of Kenya airways is very good,and also when we go to hospitals we never look for a tribal doctors.
I really like the conversation but I would also want to understand when Jirongo saw the light? Anyone who is old enough to remember Kanu days will recall the dealings of Cyrus Jirongo, Sam Nyamweya, one William arap Ruto etc as Kanu's Y92 wing that almost brought Kenya's economy to its knees in the effort to rig Moi in. Money was printed in hundreds of millions to splash in the city estates and the countryside to buy support for Moi and the denomination that most common was the 200/- note such that it was nicknamed Jirongo, a name the note carried up until when the old money was phased out 3 years ago.
Is Jirongo then qualified to talk about clean leadership or how does he plan to sanitize himself?
I don't trust this guy at all he is among the thieves you have mentioned.
True
PLO is sharp. Would rather talk about Africa more as opposed to Kenya. We appreciate your efforts with Malema but we also need your presence in Kenya.
He's into International Space. Kenya is village politics
We need PLO Lumumba as Kenyan president, please go for it, prof. The time is ripe
You sound ignorant towards PLO. PLO is just but an empty tin lots of yelling and yapping with absolute no action. He's a coward who ran away from heading EACC, he couldn't finish his tenure leave alone executing anyone corrupt criminal nor even mentioning one by name. He's a coward, a toothless dog good in barking while blaming others for not sharing a meal with him.
We need Kenyan leaders who embrace the whole Nation with the positions they have been entrusted.Not tribal leaders.Until we gain that level of integrity and maturity we’ll be drawing water with a sieve.
I think it should be more on who is qualified to do the job rather than where the person comes from.
The discourses into the human affairs. It's interesting to see PLO hosted by scene of crime instead of crime scene. This is the episode if intellectualism
This two men reminds us of what the world leadership lacks. Imagine if this two gentlemen were the President and vice president of any country!
We messed by having politicians manage important institutions like;cdf,county funds...wish they could remain watchdogs to the same n not managers.
Invite Joshua Maponga III to Kenya and have a talk about the state of Africa.
Watching from Florida, oh my God this person have telling the truth!
If God can intervene with great mercy so that Matiangi becomes president, Kenya will finally take off. The evil monsters who are today's government know this which is why he's being trailed everywhere. Matiangi has kept quiet, he's not politically active yet somebody evil is after him. Why isn't Kalonzo being trailed? Why our potentially strong leaders like Omtata and Matiangi?
This a grandiose idea we remove the economic power from these politicins never heard of it before.i think this could do much better to my country as a youth
Politics is the art and science concerned with "equitable" resources management...do u think it is possible to separate?
@@johnfelixnatala6777 Yes I mean it would be better than what we currently have. Treat the growth before it festers into a tumor
Honorable jirongo has many history to tell us we need thi history about nyao era,the powerfull ministers and ps's akina hezakya oyugi we need history man
Honourable Jirongo you are really doing great because of enlightenment and opening up our minds . Next election we will be much keen and wise as we electe our leaders basing on what they have done.Another problem is about IBC what are you plus other leaders going to do about that? Coz is big problem.
Oh God, bless your heart, PL0, Lumumba, l like the way you love goodness life
PLO and Cyrus a very enlightening conversation,thank you !
I’m proud of you Professor,if the greedy leaders spit on your face,we value the revolutionary ideas that you have brought to our continent,keep it up.
Mr Jirongo,you ask the right questions every time and your past experience offers us how things can be done better. Your guest today like Karua the other day is like a breath of fresh air. We are used to people of little minds in most other forums like this and you have today earned yourself a new subscriber.
This is a great momentum toward Kenyans making soul-searching moments. Are we plunging into a bottomless hole unknowingly or knowingly? The breadth of misgovernance, pompous appellations, looting, and lewd superfluity in government is ominously mind-boggling. We are lurching into the abyss of oblivion and descent.
🙏
kindly jirongo what has changed in you from the days of YK92
Most powerful negotiation and interviews
Natamani sana patric lumumba angekua rahisi wa kenya
Very well said and explained.
What a great and informative discussion
Great talk, good ideas.
PLO why don't you enter the fray and change things. You have everything to transform this nation
This was a very good conversation that aptly described the state of our politics and what we need to do for a better future .
Phenomenal Conversation for all Africans...
Two wise men , the host becomes the hostee
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Jirongo please continue this conversation, refine its branding, financing, planning, vision and structuring. Find partners and make it bigger, have a 50 year plan and in that time, it will influence the political culture of the nation of Kenya. Have one purpose, to attend to our political culture.
I’m a Kenyan in the US and am so proud of this Kenyan son
Mheshimiwa, you are a true genius for creating this channel! I applaud your effort & pray and hope that it will be in existence for a long time to come; the matters you discuss, the guests you bring on is just pure gold! Asante sana Mheshimiwa!
Now I love how patriotic jirongo is doing..
For the first time I'm watching the Jirongo channel
Pro LUMUMBA always hits the nail on the head by speaking the truth .
The pilot example hits hard🎉
Great narratives Cyrus. The history you bring is critical to the younger generation to know when the rain started beating us. You are very brave. Thank you for putting yourself out there. Courage is not the absence of fear but the strength to speak irrespective of your fear🙏
Good work Hon. Jirongo
Professor Lumumba, please go ahead, and gather Africa's legal minds and write a book of Ethics and Rules for Professional Responsibilities for African public servants, Civil servants, and please seek to it that they are obeyed by those safeguards. What is lacking in Africa as a whole is Morality, both public and private.
Very true Prof LUMUMBA am mca warns more than a doctor ,nurse or teacher and that position should be wiped off completely .Political leaders warn more salaries than European countries .Even the British say so .Oh God have mercy on us and deal with alk the corrupt leaders and pray Kenyans will vote through the guidance of the Holy Spirit not bought by the political parties .Kenyans can all see that this leadership is one tribe and doing nothing .
I like this conversation. I don't think it is loud enough!
Interesting
Prof Patrice Lumumba Otieno you're absolutely 100% correct about how Africa should be governed and administered.However from Cairo in Egypt to Cape town in South Africa as well as from Freetown in Liberia to Mogadishu in Somalia, the African citizens are not willing!
May be The African God if there is any,may intervene so as to manifest your aspirations!.Otherwise I I00%concur with your vision and aspiration.
Stay blessed comrade.
When Common Sense has evaded us n fled then hyena acts will continue to rise; A colonized mind will not settle for Oneness...who is actually gaining from the many disruptions within the continent? Helppppppp!
Great discussions. So thrilled to see PLO interlink inclusive diversity with meritocracy. It has been my song since I took a discourse to find out whether diversity is good for governance. Thanks for these conversations Alfa House!
I'm glad you enjoyed the discussions! Diversity and meritocracy are indeed important aspects to consider in governance.
Jirongo is really bringing big guns in his show..
Watching from Belgium..we should have more conversations that speaks honestly and openly of what is happening in the country..If only citizens would use their minds to vote and not vote due to tribalism or being bribed our country would be in a better place...
This is good
How is Belgium?.
Mature talk 👌👌
A very insightful discussion 👍🏿
Thank you for watching and finding the discussion insightful!
Interesting conversation 😯💥🦁
Great discussion here.. keep it up Hon Jirongo
Thanks for listening
Cyrus is smart champ.. #Viva PLO
Mr cyrus Jirongo umean the current president is not serious enough to change the country as he echoed during his election campaign in 2022 oh that's so wise so Kenyans must know that there taxes are the one take this country to prosperity so votes wisely.
True sentiments from professor coz iur Kenyan systems are manipulated for political gains and materialistic gains.
Great show. Great points. The issue of Nilotic talk is noted. Today at launching of the Devki project, Murkomen spoke for about 10 minutes in mother tongue. Africa is cursed.
I adore PLO
Jirongo should write a book
2 wise elders speaking wisdom
Amazing conversation
Thank you for the kind words!
He is one of the many politicians who went against the same principle
Charismatic leaders often make people forget that they are dealing with monsters.-frank Herbert
This is very serious matter let the mps in northern Kenya take up this matter.
Now we know the reason as to why cancer cases are rampant in those parts of meru, embu ...
Very true that politics isn't an easy thing and by the way like president Mwai Kibaki also did economics and he was once a lecturer in economics as well before he became president and even Mukhisa Kituyi is also a political economist and he was also a politician but very patriotic but even invite him for this talk and he is one of the most brilliant minds
PLO is a very good student of history
Just by the way, the audio kidogo not that correct ...i got headphones and its only the left working. Somehow bothering but hey love to see PLO
In 1992 YK 92 Cyrus Jirongo, William Ruto, Sam Nyamweya, Gedion Moi, Joshua Kulei et al destroyed the Kenya Economy which was already struggling under dictatorship of Daniel Moi .
Life expectancy in Kenya dropped from 1982 to 1999 to 53 years, the lowest in post independence history, after the 1982 Airforce Coup against the dictatorship of Daniel Moi .
In 1982 Independence VP Oginga Odinga supported Kenya Airforce coup against Daniel Moi led by Senior Private Hezekiah Ochuka, Sgt Pancreas Oteyo Okumu,Sgt Ogidi Obuon,Sgt Samuel Opiyo,Cpl Obuon,Capt Agola,Fenwicks Chesoli Odira,James Odemba,Cpl Akoth,Atila,Charles Oriwa Hongo,Mirasi,Cpl Njereman,Major Mutua .
In 1982 VP Oginga Odinga was placed under house arrest by Daniel Moi .
What do you propose then?
@@papd3532there was no coup 😂😂😂😂it was propaganda 😂😂😂😂to justify the moism personality cult..moi qnd his henchmen canniving witj the rogue somali destroyed many professional airmen careers i know coz my favourite uncle wqs in airforce at that time aged 19..he was later recalled back during kibakis time ......keep on dreaming u was olayed and fckd with propaganda
True professor coz A dollar in rich Arab nation is not abig deal so Kenyans leaders must focus on enriching its citizens first then them to follow but Kenyans leaders are manipulated badly with passionate of materialistic gains.
PLO ALWAYS TALK AND TELL THEM ALL THE TIME
Incredible conversation Prof. PLO and Cyrus Jirongo 👏
Jirongo is smiling from inside
Nice discussion. Please mic the guest well. It's a challenge hearing Mr. Jirongo.
How can I get intouch with jirongo would like to meet with him it would be a great honor
You are on to something
@PLO Lumumba you my be the hope but on the last election we did not have hope.
Something should be said about the scandal involving a politician in these video borrowing money using government land as collateral eventually leading to the collapse of postbank and Kenyans losing their hard earned money. How can we have all this platitudes on integrity if there are just but empty words
Watch out for Cape Town in South Africa 🇿🇦, Africa belongs to Africa
This makes me cry, Kenya is soo awful, we're all suffering because of these monsters and the idiots who vote for them.
What happened in 1992 when YK 92 was established,what were the objectives and what was achieved,it’s not good for our politicians to preach wine and drink whiskey,let’s wake up to the reality of the situation