Legacies 2x15 Hope Fights Josie, Lizzie Saves Hope

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  • @bigw2743
    @bigw2743 4 года назад +2909

    Stop saying they're downplaying Hope. She's not fighting back because she cares too much about Josie. Plus she had a plan.

    • @ashtinwalker6102
      @ashtinwalker6102 4 года назад +122

      Exactly they even said that in the episode.

    • @bigw2743
      @bigw2743 4 года назад +80

      @@ashtinwalker6102 Every MOTW they've had, she's fought back against them, but with Josie, that's her friend, her former crush, one of her closest allies.

    • @ONA-MM
      @ONA-MM 4 года назад +6

      Yea

    • @e.nurbozkurt5189
      @e.nurbozkurt5189 4 года назад +19

      Ok but she almost died and we never saw her full strength

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +39

      @@e.nurbozkurt5189 she didn't die... you could see that she wasn't a bit afraid so that means she propably had a protecfion spell or just that she was ready to go all trybrid

  • @saidsum0060
    @saidsum0060 4 года назад +2591

    Is it me or do u want to see hope at her strongest and actually trying to kill someone

    • @marvels4759
      @marvels4759 4 года назад +104

      That'd be so badass

    • @meowa1
      @meowa1 4 года назад +30

      We'll wait how will she deal with the necromancer.. necromancer absorbed the dark magic from josie. so... Uhm

    • @saidsum0060
      @saidsum0060 4 года назад +48

      Jannmr 31 Hope will destroy Necromancer . She can literally draw power from her werewolf side. She can control when she turns. She’s very advanced in magic escpecially dark magic.

    • @meowa1
      @meowa1 4 года назад +30

      @@saidsum0060 that's what I'm waiting.. she just didn't use her magic that much actually, we know, Freya taught her right? Freya learned a lot from dahlia.. hope knows what she's capable of..

    • @saidsum0060
      @saidsum0060 4 года назад +9

      Jannmr 31 yes Freya did teacher but in the originals Hope said she mostly learned spells by herself at age of 7 I believe (Season 4 TO)

  • @elliekat.3351
    @elliekat.3351 4 года назад +1096

    "You, love, are the daughter of Klaus Mikaelson. You're going to be the greatest witch the world has ever seen. And nothing will scare you".
    -Klaus Mikaelson, The Originals, 4x03.

  • @djdruzayden9994
    @djdruzayden9994 4 года назад +716

    People need to understand this, Hope isn't really fighting back and she's literally holding back, all she has for Josie is care and love so she had to do everything in order to make the merge taking place to execute her plans. All we see is the caring Hope and if Hope even turned off her humanity she'd burn down the whole town just like Freya said, People like Freya n Hope flipping of their mind only bring destructions.

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +21

      Yeah you are 100% right. She was just delaying Jossie by keeping her occupied in order for lizzie to get there. I also think she had a protection spell because she was not harmed at all when jossie blasted her and was not a bit afraid when she almost got staked in the back

    • @djdruzayden9994
      @djdruzayden9994 4 года назад +16

      @@akak1297 yes maybe she had the protection spell, even Josie said Hope isn't really fighting.

    • @Officialrandomuser
      @Officialrandomuser 4 года назад +3

      DJ DRU ZAYDEN finally someone who gets it

    • @chechai163
      @chechai163 4 года назад +10

      Youre right! Dark josie even said,hope is never fighting back.

    • @djdruzayden9994
      @djdruzayden9994 4 года назад +4

      @@Officialrandomuser This is even power battle but more of the battle of how strong the bond is between all of them, like thr battle of mind.

  • @balegdah8054
    @balegdah8054 4 года назад +704

    Lizzie is just....how do u even describe this haha she's a legend

    • @dreem5639
      @dreem5639 Год назад +8

      U said it perfectly lol especially when she became mixed breed with vampire

  • @eqlover3036
    @eqlover3036 4 года назад +432

    Lizzie's right, black isn't Josie's color, it's Regina Mills'
    Respect to anyone that gets that

    • @zombielover3758
      @zombielover3758 3 года назад +28

      Once Upon a Timeeeee!!! 🥰

    • @mafantasangaray4425
      @mafantasangaray4425 3 года назад +10

      Yessirr

    • @darknessemblemflame3036
      @darknessemblemflame3036 3 года назад +17

      Regina would slay these Bitches in Legacies. Regina is the True Queen.

    • @MariChat29
      @MariChat29 3 года назад +27

      "Didn't anyone ever tell you? Black...is MY color."
      -Regena Mills, Storybrooke before her battle with Zelena

    • @mymilala2283
      @mymilala2283 3 года назад +2

      Josi like Regina and lizzie like emma swan

  • @milanmilan594
    @milanmilan594 3 года назад +121

    2:05
    "No, I'm right on time to kick your ass"
    Lizzie is such a legend!

  • @irissmayy
    @irissmayy 4 года назад +1543

    We all know hope could defeat Josie easily, but she cares for her too much, and doesn't want to hurt her. Think about it Josie obviously cares a lot for hope as well, because hope was the only one who could get Josie's good side back, even if it was only for a few seconds.

    • @ONA-MM
      @ONA-MM 4 года назад +25

      Not only hope we know that penelope can too

    • @dreyaa9
      @dreyaa9 4 года назад +32

      @@ONA-MM more like Penelope manipulates Josie more to kill Lizzie lol

    • @ONA-MM
      @ONA-MM 4 года назад +14

      @@dreyaa9 yea they need to bring penelope back

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +7

      @@ONA-MM no she can't

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +32

      Actually Hope was not even trying to win. She only wanted jossie to think she is in control of the situarion and delay her until lizzie got there. She is a true mastermind

  • @camillecarre8074
    @camillecarre8074 4 года назад +710

    Dark josie isn't more powerful she just don't care about hurting whereas hope want to stop her not to kill her but this is more because the fight the merge everything related to that has to be btw the twin

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +26

      Hope was not trying to kill her let alone beat her. She needed to delay Jossie so that mg could bring lizzie back. She had a master plan all along she lost on purpose to make jossie think she is in control

    • @chronicler6162
      @chronicler6162 4 года назад +6

      She definitely is a little bit more powerful the level of magic she used last episode.

    • @Allo.nvm02
      @Allo.nvm02 4 года назад +6

      HellBlazer nahh the writers make it so, but after watching tvd and originals i think its bullshit! Hope could have destroyed her!

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +6

      Hope didn't want to stop her only delay her until jossie got there. She had control of anything all the time except from jossie killing alyssa

    • @TienNguyen-fu2et
      @TienNguyen-fu2et 4 года назад +2

      In my opinion that the large potion of her black magic stays in the prison world that's why when Josie came back to real world she looks normal. However, this black magic seeds a little potion in Josie into the real world and not like any kind of black magic before, this type of black magic replenishes itself quickly overtime as long as Josie willing for it to take over. Remember this black magic is over thousands years containing in samurai's sword in Japan to kill a powerful monster Oni, not anything like in "New Orleans". It's supernatural source itself it gives the user know the spells that no one knows before or even killing spells or turning humanity in vampires. So we don't know full potential of that black magic source can do yet. As long as there's still a little potion of this black magic source in Josie, it will replenish quickly and even more than before. It allows Josie to control people as her will recently similar to Delilah, so it's very powerful source and not that Hope can easily deal with with her power right now (especially she is not full tribrid yet).

  • @Mr.Soulxm
    @Mr.Soulxm 4 года назад +380

    It’s funny how everyone is saying hope is being downplayed yet Josie herself said that hope wasn’t fighting for real. If they fought only being aquatinted or if they just met this episode then hope would have torn her apart. Dark or not. Plus it’s pretty clear hope took no damage from josies red lightning

    • @incogspectator3042
      @incogspectator3042 4 года назад +8

      Hope said Josie wasn't fighting either lol so they both arent fighting formal and yet Hope is still losing she's not as powerful. Shes special only in name her tri brid title holds no sway in actual battle so it seems.

    • @ChrisAtheist
      @ChrisAtheist 4 года назад +19

      @@incogspectator3042 hope meant the real Josie who is in side of dark Josie
      Josie was shortly there and said Hope but was again shout down by dark Josie
      It's like you're brainwashed or mind controlled and someone tries to break the mind control/brainwashing
      Sad that the youth today aren't thinking anymore

    • @TienNguyen-fu2et
      @TienNguyen-fu2et 4 года назад +4

      @@ChrisAtheist If Hope is actually more powerful, she can push Josie back, paralyzed then convince good Josie to come back but clearly she isn't powerful than Josie at this state. Hope is tribrid bla bla bla ... yes she has lots of potential but right now there's a limit of magic in her Hope can use. Not that Hope will be in her most powerful state anytime soon

    • @honestpitch7477
      @honestpitch7477 4 года назад +11

      @@TienNguyen-fu2et I think you don't understand, Attacking or making Josie weak isn't gonna be good for the good josie as they share the same body different mind. Any outcome could turns out very badly and they don't know what Dark Josie has under her sleeves like a backup plans, what they did here is just stalling and let Dark Josie thinks she's winning to execute their plans, with Necromancer in the picture they have to make sure nothing goes wrong. Its isn't about power but Plans.

    • @tarikfretes7562
      @tarikfretes7562 4 года назад +7

      @@incogspectator3042 yup. The 7 year old hope in the originals was more powerful than this version of hope. The hollow called hope the most powerful witch ever lived

  • @neethunath3453
    @neethunath3453 4 года назад +101

    It looks as if Kai Parker is inside Josie. He is the one who has always been waiting for the merge. The dialogues of Josie has a Kai tone.

    • @arryaryy
      @arryaryy 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @arryaryy
      @arryaryy 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @staaardustt
      @staaardustt 2 года назад +2

      i mean kai is still her uncle

  • @maddyb7899
    @maddyb7899 4 года назад +50

    Hope literally wasn’t even trying like when she got knocked down as soon as she saw the necromancer she got up quickly it clearly didn’t affect her

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +5

      Yes. Finally!! Someone who pays attention. And before that when they cast their spells u can see in Hope's face she is not trying to beat Jossie when she is shooting that blue lighning and is using only as much power needed to keep jossie's spell back. She was not even afraid when Jossie let her fall

  • @dimosvasilev6671
    @dimosvasilev6671 4 года назад +251

    If Josie had killed Hope, she wouldn't turn into a completed tribrid?

    • @saidsum0060
      @saidsum0060 4 года назад +51

      Dimos Eilish she would

    • @irissmayy
      @irissmayy 4 года назад +35

      Not gonna I lie I may have been begging for that to happen, but I think it's too soon as there will probably be a forth season as well as the confirmed third season

    • @Mr.Soulxm
      @Mr.Soulxm 4 года назад +11

      Yeah she would have become a vampire. This show loves Tri baiting😂

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +13

      Either Hope was ready to let that happen or she had a protection spell. Don't forget that if the stake didn't hit the heart she would survive... werewolf healing along with her blood having vampire healing abilities

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +5

      @@NotSure405 well you can clearly see in this episode that she is a mastermind and played all her cards perfectly as Jossie thinks she wom and left the school, Lizzie is alive and shr can now free the real Jossie... she is not weak she was able to stop the merge and ressurect lizzie. Also it doesn't matter if she would not have a heart marcel didn't have one and came back... also we have seen protection spells in legacies too. Finally you can clearly see that
      1) Hope was prepared for everything
      2)she was not hirt when jossie go a clear shot on her and was perfectly fine 2 seconds later which indicates that she had a protection spell and
      3) she wasn't even a bit afraid when jossie was levitating her and when she left her to fall

  • @user-zf6nc8ut2g
    @user-zf6nc8ut2g 3 года назад +15

    That's scene showing how much Hope cares about Josie because she is the only one who actually bring her good side even for 1 second and she is the only one who treats Josie like she isn't the monster of the week and actually she really want to help Josie to back to normal. ☺️

  • @spendygeek8602
    @spendygeek8602 4 года назад +90

    I LOVE LIZZIE

  • @luiscervantes7937
    @luiscervantes7937 4 года назад +20

    The fact that hope isn’t afraid of dying girl bows she’ll return as a vampire

  • @bigw2743
    @bigw2743 4 года назад +65

    0:10 literally looks like The Flash

  • @mjjanson70
    @mjjanson70 4 года назад +244

    If she would've killed her, the Mikaelsons would've came for revenge x)

    • @wissalkadri
      @wissalkadri 4 года назад +55

      And she will trigger her vampire and probably turn off her humanity cuz clearly she has a lot going on that will be a good plot twist seeing hope finally lose control

    • @elaina.clanton
      @elaina.clanton 4 года назад +7

      Klaus and Elijah are dead soooo....

    • @mjjanson70
      @mjjanson70 4 года назад +39

      @@elaina.clanton The Mikaelsons are big family and they have friends like Davina, Marcel, Vince etc.

    • @emelia5414
      @emelia5414 4 года назад +5

      -R ahhhh davina ain’t friends of the mikaelsons except Kol aha

    • @wissalkadri
      @wissalkadri 4 года назад +23

      @@emelia5414 she's his wife so davina is a mikaelson she's considered her aunt now

  • @sana3843
    @sana3843 4 года назад +217

    I love Hope, but how is she a daughter of Niklaus Mikaelson and Hayley. I wish she would have a little more of her parents in her. I know she has a plan and not fighting back, but I wish she would have a little more tamper, character, dignity and pride. She could save a friend, and put her in her place at the same time, showing who the queen was. Jo should not be able to beat her even if she was just stalling.

    • @justinleaner5397
      @justinleaner5397 4 года назад +19

      Oksana yea but her parents didn’t want her to end up a killer like they were. They wanted her to be good and kind but evil or bad!

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +18

      Hope was not stalling. Didn't you understand Hope's plan at all? She wanted to save Jossie and make sure noone hets hurt in the proccess. So she made Jossie think that everything was going as she wanted by losing to her, trcked her into believing she won the merge and got in her head. Then Jossie left and the school was safe

    • @akua229
      @akua229 4 года назад

      @@akak1297 true

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +4

      This is like klaus in s2 against dalhia... Hope played her so good making her think she was in control while making the plan to destroy her

    • @zeynepaktoprak366
      @zeynepaktoprak366 3 года назад

      Why are you so right?

  • @SSG_Gogeta
    @SSG_Gogeta 2 года назад +65

    Let’s be real clear. We all know Hope would’ve destroyed Josie if she had the chance😂

    • @corinnedrake3628
      @corinnedrake3628 2 года назад

      Yeah if only she would beat her ass but no that’s her friend

    • @masonambrose1093
      @masonambrose1093 2 года назад

      No humanity Hope would crush her lol

  • @clearingstoragesowhynot6002
    @clearingstoragesowhynot6002 4 года назад +19

    I think Lizzie is now one of my favorite characters on legacies

  • @bigw2743
    @bigw2743 4 года назад +28

    I know some of you don't like the magic effects they're doing but I think they look pretty cool. It really sets this show apart from it's predecessors

  • @heartlzmigz_9039
    @heartlzmigz_9039 3 года назад +2

    Lizzie being like a bad ass:
    Lizzie: black is not your color
    Lizzie run before I kick your ass

  • @deborahgreats8970
    @deborahgreats8970 4 года назад +18

    Exactly Hope could’ve kicked Josie ass so everybody saying that she was getting beat hope was holding back because she loves and cares about Josie so she was going easy. She also had a plan so hope was actually smart about this

  • @ayana7146
    @ayana7146 3 года назад +5

    1:55 this Part is sooo goodd omfggg

  • @victorhalliwell2750
    @victorhalliwell2750 4 года назад +56

    Both Hope and Dark Josie weren't trying. Which makes me wonder, what if they were? Hope is a firstborn Mikaelson witch, but Dark Josie isn't one to be taken lightly. But this fight was epic.

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +6

      Dark Jossie was trying. When Hope she you are not trying either she was reffering to good Jossie not fighting for control.

    • @victorhalliwell2750
      @victorhalliwell2750 4 года назад +9

      @@akak1297 No, Hope meant that Dark Josie wasn't trying. We have seen Dark Josie do some incredible magic. That can't be the best she could do. And Hope said she wasn't trying sooo

    • @awesomesaucy3549
      @awesomesaucy3549 4 года назад +5

      Both of them weren’t trying, they both said so themselves at each other

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +6

      @@awesomesaucy3549 When Hope said to Jossie she is not trying too she didn't mean try to win she meant try to gain control. She was talking to good jossie inside and we saw that she came out for a few seconds. Dark Jossie was not only trying to win but to kill Hope too. She was using all her power while Hope only a minimum level and still it was enough to hold jossie back

    • @jacksonc8348
      @jacksonc8348 4 года назад +4

      Ak Ak no, josie blew up a whole school and levitated the earth under her. she wasn’t trying in this fight. and hope isn’t stronger than dark josie or else she would’ve detained her by now. stop being a fan girl and sucking up to hope

  • @Unbaked_P0tat00
    @Unbaked_P0tat00 4 года назад +31

    Okay, this scene is another proof that Hosie is engame. First, Hope brought back Josie,even if it was for a few seconds, she did. Second, Dark Josie wants to hurt people, she made that very clear, so why would she say to Hope "I don’t even think she likes you"? I think she say that because she knew it would hurt Hope. And she knows that Hope means a lot to Josie and that she could bring her back for good. That’s why she wants to hurt her and kill her(even tho she can’t kill her and if she does,Hope is gonna come back as a badass tribrid so I wouldn’t kill her if I was her). She wants to kill her so the person that have the most chance to bring Josie back is out of the game.
    Omg i wrote a lot more than what I was supposed to.

  • @whotfiserinnn02
    @whotfiserinnn02 3 года назад +8

    Lizzie last line in this like she’s a legend 👸

  • @varshinihegde2620
    @varshinihegde2620 4 года назад +94

    Hope could beat Josie easily and there is no doubt abt it. But clearly she had a plan. Is the nacromancer actually dumb or does he even hv a plan? If hope died here she wud come back as tribrid 💪

    • @destroymarss
      @destroymarss 4 года назад +2

      Duh he had one, he killed Landon

    • @ericasharp1872
      @ericasharp1872 4 года назад +5

      @@destroymarss Yeah he had a plan to kill Landon. But he also wanted Josie to kill Hope. Probably so he can control the tribrid or just want her out of the way. But that only works if Hope is truly dead and there's no galanteer that a stake would even permanently kill Hope considering she has her original fathers DNA. So either the Necanemcer is dumb or he wants Hope to become a full tribrid.

  • @1212lenaaa
    @1212lenaaa 4 года назад +12

    I really hope after all this they start treating Josie better cause like Hope mentioned she’s always there for her friends and carries these burdens but hardly anyone is ever there for Josie did it really take Josie going dark for everyone to see how much people take advantage of her and aren’t there for her.🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @laurenhalliwell2369
      @laurenhalliwell2369 4 года назад +5

      Not to mention nobody even realised that she was still struggling with the darkness until it was too late

  • @commenter013
    @commenter013 4 года назад +5

    I can't wait for hope to show how powerful she is because until know we have only seen fragments of her actual powers!

  • @vasilikisol7936
    @vasilikisol7936 4 года назад +9

    Hope is wearing different shoes during the fight. Biker boots and boots with heels

  • @eugenioduarte9465
    @eugenioduarte9465 4 года назад +11

    ok, everyone who knows the history of hope, their fear of losing someone and what she has done in TO realizes that she does not use everything she knows to end anyone definitively. josie didn t win, hope chose not to win by hurting her, it seems more to me, deciding for heroism puts hope in more trouble that she could avoid losing this fear of ending an attack she was now (because it s not just her there, she is pious even to those who threaten her life from the begnning)

    • @akak1297
      @akak1297 4 года назад +2

      I do not think it is heroism but a smart paln. Jossie was not going to leave if she didn't merge. And there is no way Hope wouldn't try to stop it. Jossie knew that. Hope made Jossie think that she won and that she merged so she just left. But the reality is that she only got a Hope mikaelson in her head😅

  • @micaelaolmedo7727
    @micaelaolmedo7727 4 года назад +9

    Hope is too sweet she needs to be more rude no everithing is love, i would like to see her even just one episode like klaus total BADASS

  • @thatgaygachalife9176
    @thatgaygachalife9176 4 года назад +3

    When josie shouts everyone shuts up when hope shouts she OBLITERATES anything in her path

  • @najahjanemorris6003
    @najahjanemorris6003 4 года назад +31

    I like the show. However. I wish it was just based on the merge itself rather than them having all these other mythical creatures which weren't apart of the vampire diaries or the orginals. Don't get me wrong. It's still a fantastic show!! But it doesn't seem like a show that's orginated from TVD. It seems like a whole separate show on its own. Like if I didn't watch TVD or The Orginals. I would have thought this was a brand new show

    • @chronicler6162
      @chronicler6162 4 года назад +5

      That was kinda the point. And also other monsters besides vampires witches and werewolves is from the books which had friggin Angels as well

  • @JENBLINK
    @JENBLINK 2 года назад +5

    I love how powerful and dramatic is lizzie here👁👄👁🔥

  • @tylersmith9465
    @tylersmith9465 4 года назад +7

    Hope really restrained her self

  • @vivien9173
    @vivien9173 4 года назад +57

    There are so many people saying that hope is holding back but honestly like she’s the daughter of Klaus where is the hint of the devil in her eyes? (The og Fans know what i mean) I mean I get that she’s supposed to be better than Klaus but why making her weak? Yes she cares about Josie but at some point I just expected hope to snap and fight back, to show some of her mikaelson blood. Also Josie will never be stronger than Hope, I’m sorry but this „dark magic“ that makes her so strong is the same dark magic that Hope was born with. Downplaying a character is just really not it, specifically if we all watched whole New Orleans go crazy because of her and her power. She is stronger than twins AND has to fight the demons her father (or even whole Family) was carrying for centuries. Making her a Mary Sue won‘t satisfy the people that watched her grow. This won’t be done by just simply making her scream into the woods and end the topic at that point.

    • @jacksonc8348
      @jacksonc8348 4 года назад +2

      Vee it’s called self development. she doesn’t need to resort to violence and strength everytime and she never uses her full power or wolf form because she can talk people down or use simple spells. true fans of hope want to see her grow and become more like bonnie. you just want to see her introduce complete destruction.

    • @jacksonc8348
      @jacksonc8348 4 года назад +1

      Vee plus josie could probably best hope since she’s a siphon witch, any time she shoots or spell or gets close to josie she could just suck it all up. but a normal witch couldn’t beat hope

    • @vivien9173
      @vivien9173 4 года назад +2

      spalison.mp4 Bonnie was completely mistreated like I think, and it’s not just about Josie being strong enough to take down hope (which I don’t think, due to the fact that hope has already been introduced to us by the show(!) to be the strongest person alive). Like seriously she’s more than just a siphoner witch she doesn’t need to take the power from something rather is she herself the power. Also I wouldn’t want complete destruction caused by hope, we all saw how that ended, but at least give her more character in general. She hasn’t really been through character development, she was taken down in order to give Josie the spotlight. Hope was struggling so massively with controlling her powers in to but now she’s all of the sudden perfect in peace with herself. I don’t think the show should be all about hope being the main character overshadowing everyone else but for fs she’s not a punching bag, she’s a mikaelson, she could at least behave that way. I’m also including Hayley into this because she was a mikaelson too and would have never let anyone treat her that way. Hope became absolutely bland as a character, she’s a teenager with enormously power AND a really bad mental health family history. Instead there all up focusing on Josie and let Hope be called a basic witch. At this point I would love an outburst of power just to for once in this damn show become rightful make a statement on Hopes Powers. What point was five seasons of calling her the biggest threat the world has ever seen that will have a lot of problems controlling this outburst of power (Also btw confirmed by dahlia), just to make her weak and soft. She is no Bonnie due to the reason that she has a way more complicated history (after all there were always people chasing her for her big amount of “powers”). I’m really reading into this but I’m just utterly disappointed in how the show turned out idk.

    • @jacksonc8348
      @jacksonc8348 4 года назад

      Vee mistreated in who’s eyes? she wasn’t mistreated by the creators. she was mistreated by her friends. but she was a good person and did good things when SHE felt it necessary and when she needed to protect people close to her. she didn’t do them because she wanted some type of reward or praise from others which is what made her such a compelling character. yeah it would’ve been nice to get some appreciation sometimes but that’s not why she did what she did. just like me in real life, when i do something for someone and they don’t show appreciation i don’t not do it again. i do things because i believe it’s right.

    • @jacksonc8348
      @jacksonc8348 4 года назад

      Vee and yes i do believe she should have more power but the point the creators are trying to make is that with 15 years in the school and leaning from freya she learned to control it. she doesn’t use it cause if she did who knows how out of control it could get

  • @biancaqueiroz6441
    @biancaqueiroz6441 4 года назад +10

    Hope is so much powerful than dark Josie,Dahlia said that hope is more powerful than her so hope is the most powerful person in the world

  • @hashirabbas3092
    @hashirabbas3092 4 года назад +91

    They're down-playing hope so much.. it doesn't make sense

    • @saharasafari4529
      @saharasafari4529 4 года назад +3

      Wdym how strong do you think she is

    • @shivermetimbers1931
      @shivermetimbers1931 4 года назад +20

      @@saharasafari4529 she is very strong, she is supposed to be stronger than josie and lizzie, they made her look so powerful in the originals but now they make her look weak it makes no sense 🤦🏽

    • @saharasafari4529
      @saharasafari4529 4 года назад +22

      Alexis JeanGilles so she’s suppose to have the upper hand all the time? With the right advantage anyone can win. Plus hope isn’t trying to hurt her friend.

    • @shivermetimbers1931
      @shivermetimbers1931 4 года назад +5

      @@saharasafari4529 I agree. She was holding and plus she had a plan but I idk wat going to happen to lizzie because Landon is dead but not really idk if they're going based off the myth then he is not dead colt can kill him not a gold arrow I think

    • @janderson947
      @janderson947 4 года назад +2

      , honestly she's practiced vampire moves a little bit but not enough and her werewolf side Haley wasnt there to teach her we need the old tvd writers back I think this should be moved to syft same actors just different network because there making this more well childish than tvd and the originals Josie just want to take over the school I would have thought the world ijs hope is stronger but Alaric wouldn't even teach his daughters how to fight and they should've learned before hope honestly but hope doesn't need to do that when hope turns full on vampire mode KLAUS might come out that's why she's half of everything but does she even know how to control her bloodlust when she Turns full VAMPIRE?.....

  • @rosegoddess6119
    @rosegoddess6119 4 года назад +7

    0:11 hope isn’t even making a face. that is slight work for her 0:13 dark josie is trying. hope could kick her ass any day but she cares too much. if hope didn’t care or ever got tired of playing nice or didn’t have emotions etc etc she’d burn down the whole fucking building. hope will always be 100% > than josie (in terms of strength, power, and will)

  • @jahlikowens4778
    @jahlikowens4778 3 года назад +2

    I can't wait for her vampire side to be activated like full tribrid come on

  • @reyamathew3002
    @reyamathew3002 3 года назад +4

    I am just waiting for the day when the 100 students up in that school realize that they have powers too and easily could take on whatever single monster that came if they helped Hope out.

  • @SageMasterMitsuki
    @SageMasterMitsuki 2 года назад +1

    The necromancer be having me dead 😭😭

  • @itsangietb8331
    @itsangietb8331 4 года назад +4

    I freaking love Lizzie at the end

  • @dominikadomaczaja5019
    @dominikadomaczaja5019 4 года назад +1

    Everyone was relieved when Lizzie showed up.

  • @finnchikiuo4504
    @finnchikiuo4504 3 года назад +1

    Hope floating the whole time they’re arguing
    👁👄👁

  • @RAzoRSnipzZ
    @RAzoRSnipzZ 4 года назад +5

    Hope clearly isn’t trying because she don’t wanna hurt josie

  • @prajneshshetty9089
    @prajneshshetty9089 4 года назад +59

    No way would Josie win if Hope uses her powers to her full potential

    • @mintywolf5311
      @mintywolf5311 4 года назад +7

      Yeah we need an episode where she just goes sicko mode lol

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 года назад +1

      I really Hoped that in s3 ending Landon eould die so Hope would lose control and destroy the salvatore school. That there would be birds falling from the sky, an earthquake and it eould even affect mystic falls.

  • @justlovesimply
    @justlovesimply 4 года назад +2

    Hope's shoes kept changing! 😏

  • @chelseawant3414
    @chelseawant3414 4 года назад +3

    Just been scrolling through the comments and felt the need to say my opinion. People are complaining about Hope not fighting at her full strength or whatever even though she could beat Josie. She has a plan and if she defeated Dark Josie the possibility of them getting the real Josie back in unknown. If you're plan is to save someone you don't do anything that could risk them dying. Hope cares for Josie so she doesn't want to hurt her, so she's holding back. Hope's holding off for Lizzie to show up, because she has to verse her sister. I also read a comment about how Hope is Klaus' heir and should have a need to rip off someone's head or rip out their heart. Klaus' problems come from unintentionally causing the death of a sibling, neglectful parents, having said parents try to kill him and his siblings, having a part of himself locked up for a thousand years, feeling alone for a thousand years. Hope hasn't had nearly as awful life as Klaus, so she's more stable. She was also mainly raised by Hayley and Freya so she be more like them.

  • @HReiss0
    @HReiss0 Год назад +1

    Bro hope is going so easy on her LOL she's just shruging off every spell josie throws at her.

  • @ogilongnose1115
    @ogilongnose1115 3 года назад +6

    For those actually dumb enough to think Dark Josie was stronger than Hope in this scene let me just say that first of all Dark Josie had absorbed dark magic which likely put her at Dahlia level since the necromancer stated she had the potential of controlling Malivore and yet she still couldn't at full force so easily blast through a basic defensive energy attack from a weaker type of magic cast by Hope who was holding back in every way, secondly after the clash Josie specifically states Hope isn't even fighting back the same Hope who is calm and couldn't care less about the fight clearly not registering it as a threat, thirdly if Hope wanted to hurt her why didn't she break her head when punching and kicking her since Josie is still just a girl where as Hope has warewolf strength making her stronger than any human fourthly Hope had a plan and fifth if a simple scream from a younger Hope could one shot instantly kill an army of Nazi vampires as well as any human even remotely close what do you think would happen if Hope actually attacked Josie with any spell? It would have killed her instantly therefore why would Hope fight back? She probably would have just healed or levitated herself even if Lizzie didn't arrive since she was litteraly calm and without any shown fear while not fighting back and levitated over that stick. There is also evidence to suggest she sensed Lizzie.

    • @MattCollectorControl
      @MattCollectorControl 2 года назад

      Both were holding back. Yes its pretty obvious, tribrid hope would wipe the floor here but, Dahlias level? Not even close. Dahlia was powerful because of augmented power spanning centuries. For her, even fighting the entire original family took little effort on her part, it's like when comparing the strongest witches.
      Hollow = Magic Potency
      Dahlia = Masterful knowledge
      Bonnie = Psychic and Adaptability
      Silas/ Qetsiyah = ultra willed
      Hope = the potential for all of the above
      However even now as an activated tribrid, she's not quite there yet.
      Dark josie was good. Hope is phenomenally strong right now
      Here in this scene not so much.
      But don't insult Dahlias character by comparing any of these to her.
      Even hope has a lot more to learn.

    • @ogilongnose1115
      @ogilongnose1115 2 года назад

      @@MattCollectorControl First of all Dark Josie wasn't holding back, secondly Malivore is a lot more powerful than Dahlia so Dark Josie having enough power to bend him to her will like the necromancer did later on in 3x4 might definitely put her at Dahlia level in terms of power but not skill or intelect of course and let's also note that Dahlia didn't necessarily fight the entire original family at once she fought a few of them with the white oak stake and a barrier around herself not to mention those were nerfed Mikealsons at that point, thirdly Hope is more powerful even without her vampire and warewolf side than both Dahlia and Inadu and the greatest witch to ever live so your statement is automatically false and judging by the fact that Josie was able to blast through an attack from Hope even remotely is saying a lot since Hope was born to be powerful enough to destroy Malivore who is litteraly a collection of dimensions and Dahlia hasn't done anything even remotely as impressive in terms of destructive power and fourthly I love Dahlia but Josie, Lizzie and Hope are better charecters than her so don't insult them like that. Malivore and Hope are much more powerful than any other tvd charecter.

  • @peps3283
    @peps3283 2 года назад +5

    I remember when some people were saying that Dark Josie was stronger than Hope because of this scene and that Hope wasn't holding back, and that that fight was the proof that Hope was weaker... Well now that the fight scene btwn no humanity Hope and Dark Josie exists, everyone see that it takes Hope two seconds to destroy dark Josie. She literally just gave her one kick and that was enough to make the real Josie come back. So now I don't get how anyone could deny the fact that Hope was holding back here

    • @nylam404
      @nylam404 Год назад

      Well, neither of those fights prove a thing. In this fight Hope wasnt trying ("your not even fighting back"-DJ) and in the No Humanity Hope vs Dark Jo fight, Jo clearly stated "oh I'm not here to fight you" if Dark Jo would have had her gaurd up that fight would have been so epic

    • @yakone1379
      @yakone1379 Год назад

      @@nylam404 The Dark Josie we see in season 4 is radically weaker than this one, cause she isn't filled with black magic. The only reason Dark Josie had it going for her in season 2 was the black magic making her insanely powerful. So even if they did fight in season 4, she wouldn't be half as strong as she was originally.

  • @Note-ux9et
    @Note-ux9et 3 года назад +1

    Hope: kicks josie in dark mode
    Josie: uses a spell and flings hope to the end of the room hitting a fireplace and holds hope there
    I think we know who cares less :>

  • @sharonstafford7251
    @sharonstafford7251 4 года назад +10

    Idky they were all so worried, Hope would’ve came back anyway

  • @quortavyonmoses5710
    @quortavyonmoses5710 4 года назад +3

    Imagine if Hope would’ve been landed on the wooden pike. She would’ve died and as she takes her finally breath Lizzie comes in and comforts her and tells MG to take her body away then at the end of the episode hope does a Bella/Elena resurrection wake up into her transition

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 года назад

      Hope wouldnt be in transition.

  • @enzomartinez8083
    @enzomartinez8083 4 года назад +2

    1:19 a demon is inside Josie, call Sam & Dean Winchester....😆😆😆

  • @cri6129
    @cri6129 4 года назад +2

    People are saying that the directors aren’t showing hopes real powers... she was holding back I bet she could beat Josie.. but this was part of her master plan :)

  • @ellamarsters8791
    @ellamarsters8791 3 года назад +6

    Okay so you're telling me that in a room literally full of witches literally no one but Lizzie thought to use their telekinesis to stop Hope from getting impaled?

  • @antrieceredwine6214
    @antrieceredwine6214 4 года назад +3

    Freak it, when you just wanted to see Hope finally die so that see can use all of her tribrid powers! 😍

  • @Aurondarklord
    @Aurondarklord 4 года назад +2

    I don't know what she thought she'd accomplish there. Killing Hope? What good would that do? She would get back up as a God incarnate and win with a snap of her fingers.

  • @Dresstoimpresslover991
    @Dresstoimpresslover991 8 месяцев назад

    Bro is this type Josie and hope with her humanity off this would be the best scene ever

  • @angiechacon293
    @angiechacon293 3 года назад +1

    it didn’t even look like she was scared to die, she looked like she couldn’t wait to see her mom

  • @skilledful
    @skilledful 4 года назад +4

    1:54 My Friends Are My Power!

    • @FudoCesar
      @FudoCesar 4 года назад +1

      And I'm theres. Too much Kingdom Hearts 😂

  • @cheyennewest4036
    @cheyennewest4036 4 года назад +3

    So are we not gonna acknowledge the shoe change at 0:10

  • @starsas2889
    @starsas2889 4 года назад +1

    Remember when this universe was practical effects with good acting and a better story... yeah, me too.

  • @kas.2111
    @kas.2111 4 года назад +3

    hope was obviously holding back. she could kill josie so easily if she wanted to. but she didn't wanna kill the real josie so she didn't fight. josie even said "you're not even fighting" and when hope said "neither r u, ik ur in there josie" she was referring to real josie inside not fighting. dark josie obviously was fighting and trying to kill hope. but that would be a dumbass move bc killing hope would only complete hopes tribrid self which would make her sm stronger.

  • @Allo.nvm02
    @Allo.nvm02 4 года назад +3

    Honestly is someone actually doubting that Hope is stronger than Josie. It doesn’t mean that the writers turn and twist everything for this ridiculous plot that Josie is suddenly more powerful than Hope. It doesn’t even have to do with the fact that she is a tribrid but a first born Mikaelson witch. And yeah the gemini’s may be powerful but not like them. If you watched the originals it’s been said a thousand times that Hope is beyond powerful. Ugggh this show makes me angry sometimes, I have no problem with Josie’s power being showcased but damn be a bit realistic about it. This show has so much potential, I hope they do better next season cause I honestly do not want it to get canceled.

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 года назад

      Hope faked the battle... her real plan involved the twins trying to merge and her getting inside josie's mind which she did... she just knew josie would never believe Hope mikaelson wouldnt try to stop her

  • @janne2267
    @janne2267 3 года назад +1

    Mannnn, I love this series

  • @gasheesh1512
    @gasheesh1512 3 года назад +1

    2:01 TELL HER😭

  • @camiladosanjos8052
    @camiladosanjos8052 3 года назад +1

    how da hell she can do those flip overs and remains with her hair intact ? HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @stephaniemcgeorge8595
    @stephaniemcgeorge8595 3 года назад

    Aww that was so sweet of her to do that they've come so far then at the beginning like really far haha 😭😭😭

  • @AlmightyWitch
    @AlmightyWitch 3 года назад +3

    Hope if she dies she will revive as a full tribrid, she will not lose her magic powers cause she is already a vampire and a "full" tribrid she just he needed to trigger her vampire abilities. Just like she did with her werewolf side. THX!

  • @multilyssa1721
    @multilyssa1721 2 года назад +1

    Even if Hope was killed in this fight she would come back as the tribrid and be unstoppable 😂

  • @vickyl4031
    @vickyl4031 3 года назад +1

    Am I the only one that notices that Hope’s shoes change like 2 to 3 times during the fight, from flats to heals

  • @ruthbobrink5680
    @ruthbobrink5680 2 года назад

    Lizzie: Just in time to kick your ass!
    Go girl!! 😎

  • @layvinecodezar411
    @layvinecodezar411 3 года назад +1

    Nice flight

  • @tyquilgarrett1397
    @tyquilgarrett1397 4 года назад +11

    Is it sad I was routing for Josie to kill hope so she can unlock her vamp side.

  • @anastasiaandronic6309
    @anastasiaandronic6309 3 года назад +4

    Am I the only one who noticed Hope's shoes change from flat boots to high heels boots over the entire match?
    Everyone here talking about how powerful she is and there's me talking about her shoes 😅

  • @Jolora1257
    @Jolora1257 3 года назад

    This scene really mirrors a scene from Once Upon a Time.
    Joise is basically Zelena who wanted to fight Regina who is basically Lizzie in this scene. The evil sisters want to kill the audience because their good sister didn’t show up.
    Hope is Emma because they step in when the other sister couldn’t. The Necromancer is basically Rumple and is on the dark sister’s side.
    Regina says “didn’t anyone tell you? black is my color”
    Lizzie says “ I should mentioned this earlier but black is not your color”

  • @aegrelius
    @aegrelius 4 года назад +1

    CHILLS

  • @angelorivera7410
    @angelorivera7410 4 года назад +28

    *The black really isn't your color*

  • @tabriamoore6805
    @tabriamoore6805 2 года назад +1

    Dark Josie looks a LOT like Dark Willow from Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Black hair, black veins on the face, black eyes.. Anyone else?

  • @user-dx5fo7um5e
    @user-dx5fo7um5e 8 месяцев назад +1

    all i like is necromancer have fun :D

  • @user-qu2hg1mb5z
    @user-qu2hg1mb5z Год назад

    Lizzie came right back on time to kick Jose's ass for trying to kill Hope that's true friendship

  • @ajthecoolomar2582
    @ajthecoolomar2582 4 года назад +1

    I get how hope lost because she didn’t wanna go full on trybrid on Josie because she knows she’s still in there

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 года назад

      But the battle was a distraction. Hope's plan was never to beat josie in a battle because they couldnt trap her anywhere.
      Hope's plan was to have the twins try to merge( her potion made sure that if lizzie won josie would be put in a coma and if josie won, like she did, the merge would have no effect)when they were trying to merge Hope got inside her head and eventually defeated the dark magic(helped josie understand she can control it)

  • @karaphantomhive1602
    @karaphantomhive1602 Год назад

    They made it seem like Lizzie needs to keep siphoning to hold a spell. You siphon once.

  • @mylesblomenkamp8759
    @mylesblomenkamp8759 3 года назад +1

    So like, if hope dies she just comes back...Her vampire side isnt active yet so the stake wouldnt do anything...

  • @donjaetheditgod
    @donjaetheditgod 2 года назад +1

    This went a whole lot different last episode season 4 episode 7

  • @phoenixsalvatore2887
    @phoenixsalvatore2887 Год назад

    Y'all didn't realize that when Dark Josie lets Hope fall to be impaled by that broken wood, she could've have died... If Lizzie hadn't step in to save her, Hope could have been transitioning into a vampire already and become full-fledged Tribrid from then on. They would already have save themselves from all the trouble...

  • @bellavelez202
    @bellavelez202 2 года назад +2

    Fyi yall hope didnt want to hurt jo. was also holding back and stalling for lizzie

  • @anitakorodi3404
    @anitakorodi3404 4 года назад +1

    now everyone is happy except hope ... she's in a love triangle and she misses her father. I hope you would be really happy to be with your father again, you don’t need a guy, just your father.

  • @jojomaee16
    @jojomaee16 2 года назад

    Here in 2021 while hope is full activated tribrid

  • @klopesluv
    @klopesluv 3 года назад +1

    Ayy the badasss lizzzie just like her mommy caroline

  • @trex3553
    @trex3553 4 года назад +4

    You better give us some hosie ❤
    Give us glimpses of Vincent-freya-keelin's child, Rebekah & marcel's, and also elena & damon's children.
    Come on...what happened to all of them ? You showed Elena's clinic in the originals, we deserve to see the original characters again. Atleast give them a closure & show their kids. Where is kol & davina ? Ik they are happily married, but you better show them all.
    It feels weird that elena-damon, bonnie, Rebekah- marcel, kol-davina, freya-keelin & Vincent are all alive but we just dont get to see them or even have a good closure.

  • @p3psi.
    @p3psi. 3 года назад

    I like when hope says how about all three

  • @latashablackwood6240
    @latashablackwood6240 4 года назад +1

    josie be come so wicked

  • @shiankelly4007
    @shiankelly4007 3 года назад

    Hopes power is just like the hollow's blue color