I'd be interested too. It seemed like the aneng might be good for like a broke high school student whose only doing small hobby electronics, but not good for AC.
When the PM3 started flashing the battery icon that tells me it isn't really liking that overload condition. It "survived" that overload but I would suspect it may be getting damaged and would hesitate to trust any readings after an event like that. A longer exposure may show adverse results. 6:58
Bought the uni-t one. Figured I should get a small one to carry with me to check battery voltages of my drone. Also, you can never have too many multimeters! I'll use it for voltage if I need to measure power.
I have one. It's pretty good, but it has a small fault. If you store the probes with the cables folded in the case, as I did, the conductor inside the cables break where they connect to the probes. The strain relief on the probes is probably not good enough.
Having a USB multimeter frontend that ran off USB C/micro would be neat Due to the phone not having an insulated shell like a multimeter, the device would have to electrically isolate the probes from the USB connector though
already exists! the vion on kickstarter. two probles connected by a cord talk bluetooth to a phone. autoranging and autoselect. the phone is the display. no idea how good it is, but it exists.
Had a real "el cheapo" multimeter for years, after this vid i bought the sanwa pm3...a sleek, brand new, white, japanese made lexus as far as i'm concerned * good vid 👍
I've got a PM300. I bought it from Dave's shop when he sent out a discount to his patrons recently. It's pretty good, but I really don't like the probe storage on it. On the last video, even while he was bragging about how much he liked it, he had just kinda stuffed the wires in and they were hanging out the sides. There is no positive retention for them. I would much prefer something you just wrap the cords around (if it is done correctly with either exactly the wright length cable, or just a little long), or something like the PM3's Velcro strap. I think I'm going to look into a PM3 soon for something more like an 'every day carry' meter.
I actually prefer the case of the PM300, but I understand that different users have different preferences. Even if it is perhaps two years late comment 😃 I would suggest for you to also perhaps check out either of these Sanwas overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/cd800f.html or overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/pm7a.html
Hi Dave. Just letting you know if you go to the amazon.co.jp website and search for "sanwa pm3" and click on it, it has some images, one of which shows the rear of the packaging and it is in fact Made in China. Thought I'd mention just in case that matters to buyers.
Same with the 8008 - accurate and feature packed at a great price, but not very robust. Aneng seem to at least have accuracy on lockdown, I've tried out a few of their meters (and own an 8008) and their accuracy compared very well to much more expensive meters I have. Their design is generally pretty good too compared to other meters at the same price point, but of course they are no substitute for something like Fluke or Brymen if you're a serious user just based on safety and reliability.
@@ZZtop-gg3lu The Brymen seems to be much more robust than most, inlcuding Aneng (which is very poor in robustness area): ruclips.net/video/0D_6uOFSgyY/видео.html
Yeah made me decide to buy one, seemed one of the best of the bunch, though I may replace the leads at some point to slightly improve the resistance, I love to optimize things-lol - the 8203 go well with my new Aneng 8009 which is also a nice accurate little meter, just like the 8008 Dave tested awhile back.
I just purchased the aneng 8203. It says explicitly in the instructions not to test resistance on a live circuit. It is a $10 meter after all. I noticed you skipped duty cycle test. I am guessing that is because the 8203 is the only meter that has this function.
DER EE has two pocket meters (DE-10 and DE-11) in their product range that look suspiciously similar to the SANWA PM3. Also the "inspiration" for the AN8203, the Victor VC921, would have been an interesting contestant, even though i don't know if it's still produced. Almost same physical appearance, but different internals (DTM0660L based). There is also a ZOTEK VC921, which is just a rebadged AN8203, or vice versa. I believe Zotek Measurement Ltd. is the OEM for most Aneng branded meters.
The APPA's copy Digitech it is actually very accurate, portable, complies with LVD (NCV) etc and it is reasonably good for basic electronics and especially for basic electrical work and even it was used for AC job few times when large and expensive Fluke was left accidentally in the office. It has a small issue however with the construction of the multimeter case. Battery compartment was modified, and this is solved this issue with the contact between batteries moved from centre between the batteries to the right hand side battery slot and insulated from left hand side battery positive terminal, after this simple modification it works wonders in all situations, it stopped loosing contacts in the battery compartment. It is very fast and accurate. Probes wires are rated for 2kV and double insulated. Victor 921 is very accurate..and fast..but a bit fragile and good for low voltage bench work etc
sanwa pm3 is distributed from china. In fact all consumer models from Sanwa are apparently or produced or at least assembled in China. Since your model is labeled "made in Japan" I assume it comes from the grey export source not passing official registration-control route.
IIRC the label shown in the video didn't actually say "Made in", just "Sanwa, Tokyo, Japan" so that may not have been the production country just the "designed in" location...
Dave, any chance you could open up the Uni-T 10A and Sanwa PM3 again and see if those trimmer pots can be tweaked? I imagine most people who buy them after seeing them on here will have a "proper" meter of some sort that they could use to calibrate them against.
Ok but before the AN8203 died it was consistently bang on (which I thought was quite remarkable and which you curiously didn't highlight at all). Something tells Dave me gave this poor meter a "special treatment", because he feared for his 121GW sales :) "Riskier" protection test, especially with 400hz, should be done after all the measurements.
Whats demonstrable bs, that it was not the most acurate meter in this test? I think that was actually the case. The 121GW part was obviously a joke I guess. No longer demonstrable, because its dead.
@@devillian2 Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
If you look only look to the price / performance the Aneng wins by a mile. The Aneng outperformed the Sanwa PM3 in 9 of the 12 conducted tests. The "High end" meters where not tested at 1kHz, why not? Did they fail? Do you have 240v/400Hz socket outlets in Australia? I know they don't. Why not test with 230V/50Hz? Why do a destructive test half way in the test sequence and not at the end.( b.t.w. they are more prone to mechanical abuse than electrical abuse) The Aneng shut down in a save manner, no explosion no flames, just buy a new one, you can buy 8 for the price of 1 Sanwa. (spelling edit, not my first language)
And also at 400 Hz of course. If you call the cheap meters "Won Hung Low brand" and then dear to say that you are not biased, come on. Why would you even put 240V on the Ohm's range, read the manual it says not to do that.
Obviously Dave knows that isn't intended use, but I seem to remember from one of his previous multimeter tests where actual mains is used that his reasoning was along the following lines: "A good modern multimeter can and should have protections built in to survive or at least fail safely." I do consider both of those important since while it obviously isn't intended use mistakes can happen with the range setting or which contact you probe. And especially if its a type of meter failure that doesn't "fail safely" as in fire/smoke/worse while you with your hands are near mains or worse voltage that's obviously not good. So while I don't consider their survival the most essential thing in my daily use, I do like it that Dave takes one for the team and sees if they might fail unsafely. Though I would've liked to see the test done with regular 240V mains, since the power supply he used got overloaded on the output. I don't think it'd change the final result, it is a better way to weed out the unsafe failure modes.
The meter did fail in a safe way and you can not expect more from a meter which is cheaper than a good HRC fuse, who would use this kind of meter for daily use? If your leads are in amp mode stick it in the main outlet or the probe of you scope, that could end badly. What I want to say is, if you use this kind of equipment, you should know what you're doing. What bothers me is his disdain toward everything Chinese made even when it outperforms the competition.
@@ZZtop-gg3lu Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
How old is that ".01 mfd" capacitor? Using "mfd" instead of uF it must be from the 1960s? How accurate is it still? I'm sure you checked it and it is close enough for these tests but I am curious of its accuracy after all these years.
hey dave you may do a review of the Sanwa PM33A ... its a pocket hybrid multimeter with an ac/dc clamp meter that you can use as a stand also and with lots of functions and you will be surprise about the ohms and capacitance range haha its killer !!!!
How about a EEVblog rebranded meter based of the Reed R5005 (manufactured by Standard Instruments Co. Ltd.) True RMS, water proof, LCD screen, rechargeable internal Lipo battery, thermocouple capabilities, Bluetooth to computer for data logging...
Has Dave ever mentioned what he considers the cheapest range of multimeters (size unimportant) he feels are safe for basic home owner use on US 120/240 split phase mains voltage, continuity. He'll always show a cheap multimeter protection circuit and say that the meter is probably fine for hobbyist electronics work but says to keep it away from mains, and only tends to talk about mains safe on higher end meters, where is the break point for someone just trying to double check wiring in their house, outlets, lighting, etc? Not a meter to double for electronics work mind you, just strictly the home owner usage.
As long as you have a reasonably sized circuit breaker, worst thing that should happen is you killing your meter and the power going out(or one of the two). At least i can't imagine anything worse happening. Not sure why you would try to measure continuity at 240 volts though.
TombunnyHunter Stick with meters that have been independently tested for safety when it comes to that kind of work. Probably the easiest to obtain in the US would be one of the Klein meters you can find at Home Depot.
jort93z - No. Even if you had a "reasonably sized" 1A breaker doesn't mean it won't pass 100A before it trips. It takes time for a breaker to trip and in that time a lot of bad things can happen including death. A "bad" meter could "blow up" sending shrapnel at high velocity everywhere damaging your hands and eyes or starting a fire. You can find videos showing the results of using an inappropriate meter for the required job.
Sure, breakers let some current through, sometimes a few seconds before they trip. Should be fast enough to make sure that thing doesn't catch on fire though. FR4 is flame retardent after all. Shrapnel? I am not sure what is going to blow up like that. Also, meters generally have quite a robus plasic housing for a reason. Should stop any shrapnels you might have for whatever reason. I've sure not heard of a meter that blew up like a hand grenade when you probe mains with it.
As you have fixed leads (to keep size down) on small pocket DMMs it is usually a safety issue to not include current (it can easily shorten your circuit if you rotate the switch one step wrong). Some has small current clamps, which is also possibly a better option for small portable measurement on the go (as you usually do not quickly open up a closed circuit to take current readings). Check out one of these for example: www.deree.com.tw/de-19a-pocket-size-digital-multimeter.html or overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/pm33a.html
These "cheap stuff" reviews are the most fun i think :) I expect Rigol and brands like that to deliver top quality products and it's reflected in their prices .. But these cheap meters and things like that are more "mistery" and fun to see if there are any good buys at cheap prices =)
That 240Vac test was pretty useless. If you are going to apply 240, do it one meter at a time, and use a source that can do some damage. Preferrably real mains power. Personally I don´t want any meter that can blow up when it´s in the wrong mode.
Basement ScienceE Than you should just buy a proper sized meter. Mechanical strenght is also a factor when it comes to blowing shit up. However, some of those have tested CAT2 or 3 ratings so it should survive unprotected mains into the wrong hole
Thanks Dave my an8203 arrived today , seems like the winner on price function and form. You did blow it up because you didn't read the instructions mind you, but least I know what not to do ;)
Seen both videos a bit ago, and sadly all of these are crap, well not outright crap, they are just meh, my pocket-to-go multimeter would be a really nice and compact current clamp from UNI-T, the UT210E - small sized, current in DC starting at 2A, removable leads, non contact voltage indication, true RMS, I remembered it after using Amprobe AC50A at one company I used to work for, but hey AC50A is around 300eu, whilst UT210E is only 45eu. IMO it would be a much more versatile tool than any of those in the vid.
I have two such small hybrid clamp/DMM-meters as well, but from APPA and Fluke. However even if they are small, they are still not as small as these pocket DMMs. Different tools for different needs. But I would love to see a comparison test of those types as well!
Did his best to kill the Aneng soon as it started reading too accurate too often, similar dismissive attitude when he tested the Aneng 8008 and it was reading too well for his liking. No interest in looking inside either to see what was fried when he zapped the ohms scale with high input. Never gives the Anengs a fair shot, could they be threatening sales of his own products-?
Oh now I did it...!!!! OK I owe you an apology - I went too far, youre obviously highly educated and also make quality videos I enjoy watching --- though I wasnt the only one to say something along those same lines regarding the Anengs and im sorry but at times it seems you may not like it so much when they do better than expected, and it seemed like you got to a point where you decided to over do it in the ohms scale and could have killed more meters than the Aneng. After that we never got to see how it would do in the rest of the tests. I admit I own a few of the Anengs and Ive been surprised at how accurate the better ones (like the newer 8009) seem to be when testing 1% tolerance resistors and using a 4 value voltage standard from online (for what thats worth) - I know the Anengs are low buck cheapies with almost no high voltage protection, and serious electricians or lab guys DO need it, but I and many other hobby guys dont need the high-V protection for what we do, just low end accuracy -- besides now that im retired the cheapies are all I can afford-lol Correct me if im wrong, but with todays advances in chip technology it no longer seems to require a $400 fluke to get good basic accuracy in most low ranges-? The challenge to me would be to find that one $15 - $25 multimeter that has it all, good accuracy in volts, millivolts, microvolts, low resistance ranges, hopefully even capacitance etc. ---- again im sorry I went overboard, I like your vids and the fact that you share so much information with so many - I know ya just did the shootout but sometime how about a closer examination of a select group of the better cheap meters for those of us stuck in the subterranean price range-? lol
@@yambo59 Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
Do a quick autopsy on the aneng, just to see how bad things are in there, or if it's something that can be quickly fixed .. just for curiosity
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Yhea. It was doing so well till it cooked.
I'd be interested too. It seemed like the aneng might be good for like a broke high school student whose only doing small hobby electronics, but not good for AC.
So the lesson here is: _Perform all "safe" tests before the risky ones._ Leave the fault checking for last. 5:40 Trap for new players! ;-)
ElmerFuddGun Yes, now we do not know if the cheap one measures capacitance better than the most expensive one. Thumbs down.
Martin - Indeed, one can't have too many meters. Just use this one within its abilities and limits.
When the PM3 started flashing the battery icon that tells me it isn't really liking that overload condition. It "survived" that overload but I would suspect it may be getting damaged and would hesitate to trust any readings after an event like that. A longer exposure may show adverse results. 6:58
Bought the uni-t one. Figured I should get a small one to carry with me to check battery voltages of my drone. Also, you can never have too many multimeters! I'll use it for voltage if I need to measure power.
The best one is the one at hand..
I have one. It's pretty good, but it has a small fault. If you store the probes with the cables folded in the case, as I did, the conductor inside the cables break where they connect to the probes. The strain relief on the probes is probably not good enough.
I know it's kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good site to stream newly released movies online ?
@Uriel Brayan i would suggest FlixZone. You can find it on google :)
I've had the UniT 10 meter for a couple of years, it is suprisingly useful and has never let me down.
I didn't expect the Aneng to be the most accurate of that lot. Like you say: Sample size!
the an8008 he tested was almost bang on every time as well.
It was bang on until it went bang, and then it wasn't even on
Karl Baron brilliant :'-D
See what blew on the cheapie?
Perhaps one day, the multimeter function will be added to our phones.
Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky brilliant
Probably easier to add a phone to a multimeter.
Having a USB multimeter frontend that ran off USB C/micro would be neat
Due to the phone not having an insulated shell like a multimeter, the device would have to electrically isolate the probes from the USB connector though
Just use the speaker jack...
already exists! the vion on kickstarter. two probles connected by a cord talk
bluetooth to a phone. autoranging and autoselect. the phone is the display.
no idea how good it is, but it exists.
Had a real "el cheapo" multimeter for years, after this vid i bought the sanwa pm3...a sleek, brand new, white, japanese made lexus as far as i'm concerned
* good vid 👍
After watching this i purchased a sanwa PM3, very very nice meter, thank you for helping me to choose the right one for me :)
I've got a PM300. I bought it from Dave's shop when he sent out a discount to his patrons recently. It's pretty good, but I really don't like the probe storage on it. On the last video, even while he was bragging about how much he liked it, he had just kinda stuffed the wires in and they were hanging out the sides. There is no positive retention for them. I would much prefer something you just wrap the cords around (if it is done correctly with either exactly the wright length cable, or just a little long), or something like the PM3's Velcro strap. I think I'm going to look into a PM3 soon for something more like an 'every day carry' meter.
I actually prefer the case of the PM300, but I understand that different users have different preferences. Even if it is perhaps two years late comment 😃 I would suggest for you to also perhaps check out either of these Sanwas overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/cd800f.html or overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/pm7a.html
Can you do a teardown on the Aneng to see what failed../fix it to work?
Hi Dave. Just letting you know if you go to the amazon.co.jp website and search for "sanwa pm3" and click on it, it has some images, one of which shows the rear of the packaging and it is in fact Made in China. Thought I'd mention just in case that matters to buyers.
I already bought 2 of the white Sanwa units as a result of the first review , thanks
thanks Dave, great info.. as usual!...the Aneng isnt dead it hasnt released the magic smoke yet! (needs its own vid!)
Hey, the Aneng is actually pretty impres- Ded.
Oh, never mind then.
Same with the 8008 - accurate and feature packed at a great price, but not very robust. Aneng seem to at least have accuracy on lockdown, I've tried out a few of their meters (and own an 8008) and their accuracy compared very well to much more expensive meters I have. Their design is generally pretty good too compared to other meters at the same price point, but of course they are no substitute for something like Fluke or Brymen if you're a serious user just based on safety and reliability.
Maybe they just calibrate the meters on more ranges. I can't imagine their components are more accurate.
Well we have seen the "quality" of that Brymen BM22 in the previous video.
/shrug Brymen make good gear, I suspect Dave just had a dud. The internals *were* quality.
@@ZZtop-gg3lu The Brymen seems to be much more robust than most, inlcuding Aneng (which is very poor in robustness area): ruclips.net/video/0D_6uOFSgyY/видео.html
Very comprehensive. Thanks Dave!
Two times the OUTRO = two times the fun!
Top notch video Dave.
I think the aneng meter was bang on in every test.
They sure did a good job calibrating that thing.
Yeah made me decide to buy one, seemed one of the best of the bunch, though I may replace the leads at some point to slightly improve the resistance, I love to optimize things-lol - the 8203 go well with my new Aneng 8009 which is also a nice accurate little meter, just like the 8008 Dave tested awhile back.
i do have an aneng 8008, got if for 18$ on ebay or something. Its pretty decent. The fuses are hard af to find, but its alright i guess.
I just purchased the aneng 8203. It says explicitly in the instructions not to test resistance on a live circuit. It is a $10 meter after all. I noticed you skipped duty cycle test. I am guessing that is because the 8203 is the only meter that has this function.
if you can't beat the competitor, kill it.
DER EE has two pocket meters (DE-10 and DE-11) in their product range that look suspiciously similar to the SANWA PM3.
Also the "inspiration" for the AN8203, the Victor VC921, would have been an interesting contestant, even though i don't know if it's still produced. Almost same physical appearance, but different internals (DTM0660L based). There is also a ZOTEK VC921, which is just a rebadged AN8203, or vice versa. I believe Zotek Measurement Ltd. is the OEM for most Aneng branded meters.
What actually happend with the Aneng?
voltage killed it when it is set to measure resistance while others lived it.
The APPA's copy Digitech it is actually very accurate, portable, complies with LVD (NCV) etc and it is reasonably good for basic electronics and especially for basic electrical work and even it was used for AC job few times when large and expensive Fluke was left accidentally in the office. It has a small issue however with the construction of the multimeter case. Battery compartment was modified, and this is solved this issue with the contact between batteries moved from centre between the batteries to the right hand side battery slot and insulated from left hand side battery positive terminal, after this simple modification it works wonders in all situations, it stopped loosing contacts in the battery compartment. It is very fast and accurate. Probes wires are rated for 2kV and double insulated. Victor 921 is very accurate..and fast..but a bit fragile and good for low voltage bench work etc
Go with the Amprobe DM78C. The uni-t I had 2 of and the dials failed. The Amprobe is still going 6 years later.
sanwa pm3 is distributed from china. In fact all consumer models from Sanwa are apparently or produced or at least assembled in China. Since your model is labeled "made in Japan" I assume it comes from the grey export source not passing official registration-control route.
IIRC the label shown in the video didn't actually say "Made in", just "Sanwa, Tokyo, Japan" so that may not have been the production country just the "designed in" location...
Looking forward to this!
Dave, any chance you could open up the Uni-T 10A and Sanwa PM3 again and see if those trimmer pots can be tweaked? I imagine most people who buy them after seeing them on here will have a "proper" meter of some sort that they could use to calibrate them against.
The new Uni T UT123 looks fine too.
Ok but before the AN8203 died it was consistently bang on (which I thought was quite remarkable and which you curiously didn't highlight at all). Something tells Dave me gave this poor meter a "special treatment", because he feared for his 121GW sales :)
"Riskier" protection test, especially with 400hz, should be done after all the measurements.
Demonstrable bullshit.
Whats demonstrable bs, that it was not the most acurate meter in this test? I think that was actually the case. The 121GW part was obviously a joke I guess. No longer demonstrable, because its dead.
@@devillian2 Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
I do like the white Sanwa. Addition to your shop maybe?
Post-mortem teardown of Aneng!
The Sanwa PM11 looks cool too
If you look only look to the price / performance the Aneng wins by a mile.
The Aneng outperformed the Sanwa PM3 in 9 of the 12 conducted tests.
The "High end" meters where not tested at 1kHz, why not? Did they fail?
Do you have 240v/400Hz socket outlets in Australia? I know they don't. Why not test with 230V/50Hz?
Why do a destructive test half way in the test sequence and not at the end.( b.t.w. they are more prone to mechanical abuse than electrical abuse)
The Aneng shut down in a save manner, no explosion no flames, just buy a new one, you can buy 8 for the price of 1 Sanwa.
(spelling edit, not my first language)
Yes we do have 240V here in Oz, my lad is slightly over 240V usually.
And also at 400 Hz of course. If you call the cheap meters "Won Hung Low brand" and then dear to say that you are not biased, come on.
Why would you even put 240V on the Ohm's range, read the manual it says not to do that.
Obviously Dave knows that isn't intended use, but I seem to remember from one of his previous multimeter tests where actual mains is used that his reasoning was along the following lines: "A good modern multimeter can and should have protections built in to survive or at least fail safely."
I do consider both of those important since while it obviously isn't intended use mistakes can happen with the range setting or which contact you probe. And especially if its a type of meter failure that doesn't "fail safely" as in fire/smoke/worse while you with your hands are near mains or worse voltage that's obviously not good. So while I don't consider their survival the most essential thing in my daily use, I do like it that Dave takes one for the team and sees if they might fail unsafely.
Though I would've liked to see the test done with regular 240V mains, since the power supply he used got overloaded on the output. I don't think it'd change the final result, it is a better way to weed out the unsafe failure modes.
The meter did fail in a safe way and you can not expect more from a meter which is cheaper than a good HRC fuse, who would use this kind of meter for daily use?
If your leads are in amp mode stick it in the main outlet or the probe of you scope, that could end badly.
What I want to say is, if you use this kind of equipment, you should know what you're doing.
What bothers me is his disdain toward everything Chinese made even when it outperforms the competition.
@@ZZtop-gg3lu Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
How old is that ".01 mfd" capacitor? Using "mfd" instead of uF it must be from the 1960s? How accurate is it still? I'm sure you checked it and it is close enough for these tests but I am curious of its accuracy after all these years.
Yes I have checked it and it's bang on.
Dave, care to open it up so we can all see what kind of capacitor it has? I'm curious why it has remained so accurate over those many years.
Love the double outro!
Bonus!
LOL... that was funny. Seemed weird that the video was "over" with that much of the time graph still showing.
Why not show an attempt to power-up the AN8203 after abuse? For a shirt pocket meter, I'd still prefer its buzzer over the Uni-T.
I did, it's dead.
That Aneng isn't like a Victor VC921 but with ugly serif fonts ?
Useful video
i just added the aenig to my amazon wishlist cause i needed a cheap but decent meter, then went back to video to see it "die". what happened?!
Jason Halverson Don't put 240v into it when it is on the Ohms range
hey dave you may do a review of the Sanwa PM33A ... its a pocket hybrid multimeter with an ac/dc clamp meter that you can use as a stand also and with lots of functions and you will be surprise about the ohms and capacitance range haha its killer !!!!
Are there any cheaper versions of sanwa pm3 ?
It's just for casual use, nothing mission critical
OMG! The obsession took over..
thks Dave
How about a EEVblog rebranded meter based of the Reed R5005 (manufactured by Standard Instruments Co. Ltd.) True RMS, water proof, LCD screen, rechargeable internal Lipo battery, thermocouple capabilities, Bluetooth to computer for data logging...
Has Dave ever mentioned what he considers the cheapest range of multimeters (size unimportant) he feels are safe for basic home owner use on US 120/240 split phase mains voltage, continuity. He'll always show a cheap multimeter protection circuit and say that the meter is probably fine for hobbyist electronics work but says to keep it away from mains, and only tends to talk about mains safe on higher end meters, where is the break point for someone just trying to double check wiring in their house, outlets, lighting, etc? Not a meter to double for electronics work mind you, just strictly the home owner usage.
As long as you have a reasonably sized circuit breaker, worst thing that should happen is you killing your meter and the power going out(or one of the two). At least i can't imagine anything worse happening.
Not sure why you would try to measure continuity at 240 volts though.
TombunnyHunter Stick with meters that have been independently tested for safety when it comes to that kind of work. Probably the easiest to obtain in the US would be one of the Klein meters you can find at Home Depot.
jort93z - No. Even if you had a "reasonably sized" 1A breaker doesn't mean it won't pass 100A before it trips. It takes time for a breaker to trip and in that time a lot of bad things can happen including death. A "bad" meter could "blow up" sending shrapnel at high velocity everywhere damaging your hands and eyes or starting a fire. You can find videos showing the results of using an inappropriate meter for the required job.
ElmerFuddGun what? Shrapnels ? This is no hand grenade and not even a Samsung Tablet so where should an explosion originate from?
Sure, breakers let some current through, sometimes a few seconds before they trip. Should be fast enough to make sure that thing doesn't catch on fire though. FR4 is flame retardent after all.
Shrapnel? I am not sure what is going to blow up like that. Also, meters generally have quite a robus plasic housing for a reason. Should stop any shrapnels you might have for whatever reason.
I've sure not heard of a meter that blew up like a hand grenade when you probe mains with it.
Could you review the Extech Extech DM220 compact pocket multimeter, please?
Am I missing something are is there no current measurement in any of these? Seems like a fundamental function that even $5 meters have...
As you have fixed leads (to keep size down) on small pocket DMMs it is usually a safety issue to not include current (it can easily shorten your circuit if you rotate the switch one step wrong). Some has small current clamps, which is also possibly a better option for small portable measurement on the go (as you usually do not quickly open up a closed circuit to take current readings). Check out one of these for example: www.deree.com.tw/de-19a-pocket-size-digital-multimeter.html or overseas.sanwa-meter.co.jp/products/digital_multimeters/pm33a.html
He killed it!
What about the Anoong 8008 vs the other that you reviewed 6 months ago
So, the precision was tested _after_ dismantling all of them?
Sure, everything done according to standard procedure.
hey Dave how about you make video revive aneng multimeter or what fails inside aneng multimeter
And the Hioki 3244-60
These "cheap stuff" reviews are the most fun i think :) I expect Rigol and brands like that to deliver top quality products and it's reflected in their prices .. But these cheap meters and things like that are more "mistery" and fun to see if there are any good buys at cheap prices =)
That 240Vac test was pretty useless. If you are going to apply 240, do it one meter at a time, and use a source that can do some damage.
Preferrably real mains power. Personally I don´t want any meter that can blow up when it´s in the wrong mode.
Basement ScienceE Than you should just buy a proper sized meter. Mechanical strenght is also a factor when it comes to blowing shit up. However, some of those have tested CAT2 or 3 ratings so it should survive unprotected mains into the wrong hole
My source is capable of delivery 20W, more than enough to blow the snot out of protection components in such a meter, and it did on the ANENG.
EEVblog More power would be more fun
Is it just me, or the video speed seems a bit too fast? Like 1.1x or 1.2x the "natural speed"
Nothing at my end.
Thanks Dave my an8203 arrived today , seems like the winner on price function and form. You did blow it up because you didn't read the instructions mind you, but least I know what not to do ;)
Seen both videos a bit ago, and sadly all of these are crap, well not outright crap, they are just meh, my pocket-to-go multimeter would be a really nice and compact current clamp from UNI-T, the UT210E - small sized, current in DC starting at 2A, removable leads, non contact voltage indication, true RMS, I remembered it after using Amprobe AC50A at one company I used to work for, but hey AC50A is around 300eu, whilst UT210E is only 45eu.
IMO it would be a much more versatile tool than any of those in the vid.
I have two such small hybrid clamp/DMM-meters as well, but from APPA and Fluke. However even if they are small, they are still not as small as these pocket DMMs. Different tools for different needs. But I would love to see a comparison test of those types as well!
Came here expecting a shootout, yet no shots were fired!
DISAPPOINTED.
Just because you didn't hear the shot doesn't mean it wasn't fired. One of the meters ended up dead, after all.
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Did his best to kill the Aneng soon as it started reading too accurate too often, similar dismissive attitude when he tested the Aneng 8008 and it was reading too well for his liking. No interest in looking inside either to see what was fried when he zapped the ohms scale with high input. Never gives the Anengs a fair shot, could they be threatening sales of his own products-?
Demonstrable bullshit.
Oh now I did it...!!!!
OK I owe you an apology - I went too far, youre obviously highly educated and also make quality videos I enjoy watching --- though I wasnt the only one to say something along those same lines regarding the Anengs and im sorry but at times it seems you may not like it so much when they do better than expected, and it seemed like you got to a point where you decided to over do it in the ohms scale and could have killed more meters than the Aneng. After that we never got to see how it would do in the rest of the tests. I admit I own a few of the Anengs and Ive been surprised at how accurate the better ones (like the newer 8009) seem to be when testing 1% tolerance resistors and using a 4 value voltage standard from online (for what thats worth) - I know the Anengs are low buck cheapies with almost no high voltage protection, and serious electricians or lab guys DO need it, but I and many other hobby guys dont need the high-V protection for what we do, just low end accuracy -- besides now that im retired the cheapies are all I can afford-lol Correct me if im wrong, but with todays advances in chip technology it no longer seems to require a $400 fluke to get good basic accuracy in most low ranges-? The challenge to me would be to find that one $15 - $25 multimeter that has it all, good accuracy in volts, millivolts, microvolts, low resistance ranges, hopefully even capacitance etc. ---- again im sorry I went overboard, I like your vids and the fact that you share so much information with so many - I know ya just did the shootout but sometime how about a closer examination of a select group of the better cheap meters for those of us stuck in the subterranean price range-? lol
@@yambo59 Aneng does not make its own DMMs (contrary to what Dave claims). It just a selling company that put their cable on the cheapest shit on the market. Might still be OK in some cases, but I would not trust them. If your so cheap that you must buy the cheapest China shit, at least look at the UNI-T models (a company that is not just a re label company). UNI-T at least make their own DMM, and most often a little higher quality than that Aneng happens to sell and re label at the moment (changes all time).
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Shame he killed the best one for electronics
TOO MUCH! I can't blow an hour here and an hour there. What's the 'shout-out' in a single single sentence?
schitlipz watch the video.
Simmer down, Michael.
You're quite aggressively homophobic. Do you want to talk about it? How do people in same sex relationships harm you?
Stay in the engineering arena here, creep.
Prestani biti sranje, Scolder.
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