JAKE AND THE NEVERLAND PIRATES LORE (the Peter Pan sequel that changed everything)

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  • @AthenaPOfficial
    @AthenaPOfficial  10 месяцев назад +766

    CONNOROXENBEARD’S VIDEOS ON PETER PAN’S RACISM
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    • @channelmisfits
      @channelmisfits 10 месяцев назад +7

      have you ever heard of Pacman and the Ghostly Adventures

    • @GreenDude_Gaming
      @GreenDude_Gaming 10 месяцев назад +14

      Please do a video about the leapfrog movies and spin-off shows

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 10 месяцев назад +40

      The ironic thing about the portrayal of the Native Americans in the 1953 film is that’s actually a step above how they were depicted in the original stage play and novelization. In the original story, they were pretty much regarded as dumb savages no different than the rest of the island’s wildlife, whereas in the animated film, they humanized them more (albeit stereotypically). You even have Micheal Darling spouting out some of that Edwardian racist rhetoric that he was likely taught, thinking he could see through their ambush, only to be proven wrong when the tribe catches them completely off guard. Seems like they were trying to subvert the trope.
      From what I gathered, late animator Marc Davis said in an interview that the staff would’ve tried correcting their mistake had they known at the time that their portrayal of the Natives would’ve aged later on. The studio always strived for making their films as timeless as possible, but it’s kinda impossible to completely escape the zeightgeist of whatever era you’re in. Hindsight is always behind.

    • @forrestdupre87
      @forrestdupre87 10 месяцев назад +3

      You should read the book

    • @GreenDude_Gaming
      @GreenDude_Gaming 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@forrestdupre87 in the book they pretty much confirm that Peter Pan is local mythos that almost everyone knows right?

  • @transgaty2763
    @transgaty2763 10 месяцев назад +7615

    Imagine being a 40 year old pirate who constantly getting beat up by a bunch of like 12yr olds ..💀

    • @thegayghost872
      @thegayghost872 10 месяцев назад +366

      I think they're even younger than that

    • @POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0
      @POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0 10 месяцев назад +226

      maybe 9 or 10?

    • @jellymcmichaels4240
      @jellymcmichaels4240 10 месяцев назад +226

      @@POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0 I think they might be 7 or 8...

    • @POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0
      @POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0 10 месяцев назад +194

      let's just settle at "they are young kids"

    • @any_j_yt
      @any_j_yt 10 месяцев назад +150

      I always figured Cubby was at least 7 (?) Izzy was like 9 and Jake was 10

  • @the.whitest.violin9289
    @the.whitest.violin9289 10 месяцев назад +3453

    "I have a sixth sense for stupid shit" girl i love you

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. 10 месяцев назад +57

      I've got a 6th sense for chocolate. Give it to me. *Now.*

    • @PMIII
      @PMIII 10 месяцев назад +19

      Mood😂😂

    • @BroKenYaKnow
      @BroKenYaKnow 10 месяцев назад +21

      @@1th_to_comment. Huh? Nope! No chocolate here haha- *chews faster

    • @anikakitty11
      @anikakitty11 10 месяцев назад +2

      Relatable

    • @anikakitty11
      @anikakitty11 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@1th_to_comment. I do too

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 10 месяцев назад +1704

    A good pirate makes an exact duplicate of another person’s property, then takes the duplicate and leaves the original.

    • @goodpeople25
      @goodpeople25 10 месяцев назад +80

      Still more moral/ethical than Indiana Jones' MO.

    • @samandom8772
      @samandom8772 10 месяцев назад +72

      Ah the plagiarism method. Perfect for written documents, art, etc

    • @AeonKnigh432
      @AeonKnigh432 9 месяцев назад +31

      People really ain't getting the joke, are they. I got it. I think you're funny.

    • @augustrempelewert4377
      @augustrempelewert4377 9 месяцев назад +29

      Unironically yes. I keep telling people that stealing is when you take something away from someone else. If they still have whatever-it-is, then you didn't steal it. At worst you borrowed it without asking.
      That's why it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to steal an idea (at least without time travel or a memory-erasing device). You can use someone else's idea for your own benefit, but you can never take away the fact that they came up with it.
      What you can steal is the CREDIT for an idea, or the opportunity to make a profit off of it.

    • @d4n737
      @d4n737 9 месяцев назад +25

      I love how back in the day, Piracy was viewed as AS BAD if not WORSE than just straight up theft. Like this horrible crime. "You wouldn't download a car", The hell I would. If I lived in a society where having a car is a necessity, not a luxury and I literally cannot go to work without one and the company that makes cars is exploiting this market to charge people predatory prices while reserving ownership of their vehicle even while they're using it, I would 100% download a car.

  • @cole2901
    @cole2901 10 месяцев назад +2349

    Not gonna lie, Athena looks fucking kick-ass in her pirate outfit.

  • @csir62
    @csir62 10 месяцев назад +2781

    A good pirate never takes another person's property

    • @Loopsy3
      @Loopsy3 10 месяцев назад +165

      ⁱ ʷᵃˢ ⁿᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵐᵉᵃⁿᵗ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ᵃ ᵍᵒᵒᵈ ᵖᵉʳˢᵒⁿ

    • @Wisp_underscore
      @Wisp_underscore 10 месяцев назад +41

      *insert Spongebob quote

    • @KathySage234
      @KathySage234 10 месяцев назад +111

      And a true pirate *KILLS* for it.

    • @Soda-paws
      @Soda-paws 10 месяцев назад +37

      A good pirate never does murder

    • @gooeydude574
      @gooeydude574 10 месяцев назад +56

      A good researcher never collects information!

  • @PeriVinkle
    @PeriVinkle 10 месяцев назад +821

    I have a hypothesis! Captain Flynn is the legend that little orphan Eugene would read about and later rename himself after in Disneys Tangled. It's all connected

    • @gingermaniac5484
      @gingermaniac5484 10 месяцев назад +23

      ( 'o') woah

    • @ut_girl666
      @ut_girl666 10 месяцев назад +101

      “I’ve connected the dots.”
      “You haven’t connected shit-”
      *“I’ve connected them.”*
      😂
      No but actually that’s such a fun theory, I like it!

    • @henryapplebottom7231
      @henryapplebottom7231 9 месяцев назад +10

      You're mom's connected.

    • @garfunkletime6337
      @garfunkletime6337 9 месяцев назад +37

      @@henryapplebottom7231 You are mom is connected.

    • @YouveBeenMegged
      @YouveBeenMegged 9 месяцев назад +31

      *Oh yeah, it’s all coming together*

  • @otter1712
    @otter1712 10 месяцев назад +2933

    So fun fact: In stage adaptations of Peter Pan, Captain Hook and the father Mr. Darling are usually played by the same actor. It’s a tradition that took place to save money but also because of them being antagonists and symbolic of each other. They keep this tradition in the animated Peter Pan movie with the two sharing the same VA.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 10 месяцев назад +176

      Villainy’s cross-generational influence going so hard that the son’s and father’s essences BECOME each others’

    • @mithmoonwalker
      @mithmoonwalker 10 месяцев назад +39

      Peter Pan goes Wrong got this right.
      how?

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 10 месяцев назад +52

      @@mithmoonwalker It's like when(as Quinton Reviews pointed out) porn parodies of Fairly Odd-Parents are still more accurate and better-live-action-translating than the Timmy Turner movie trilogy

    • @Numbabu
      @Numbabu 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@BinglesPcause anyone dedicated enough to make porn probably actually likes the original media? 😭

    • @a_bit_n00bish
      @a_bit_n00bish 10 месяцев назад +27

      @@mithmoonwalkerI love the goes wrong show’s production of Peter Pan! I also didn’t get the symbolism until now either, but that’s probably because I just focused on the coolness of neverland…

  • @PokemonkaDub
    @PokemonkaDub 10 месяцев назад +4502

    Jake is just an autistic kid with hyperfixation on pirates that makes his friends play out his ideas for make-belief with their dads - Sharky and Bones, and his uncle - Hook. Whenever the kids make up another character or scenario to add Jake turns it to be Pirate themed at all cost.

    • @systematicirony666
      @systematicirony666 10 месяцев назад +463

      No but this was me and making everything about some how playing doctor, house, or kitchen fr

    • @charlesdunn9222
      @charlesdunn9222 10 месяцев назад +241

      And Smee is also there

    • @luckychaos2997
      @luckychaos2997 10 месяцев назад +627

      But Hook was a theater kid back in high school so he takes his role very seriously or alternatively the Captain Hook character was created by cool teenage next door neighbor, Peter when Hook used to babysit him.

    • @donuko
      @donuko 10 месяцев назад +496

      peter is definitely the big brother who goes to college and can only visit sometimes

    • @--press-play--825
      @--press-play--825 10 месяцев назад +127

      I wish I could save comments. This is beautiful

  • @TamerlaneTunes
    @TamerlaneTunes 10 месяцев назад +524

    The whole acorn necklace being a kiss thing is a nod to the actual play btw.
    In the play, Wendy says that she would give him a kiss but then get nervous and gives him a thimble, calling it a kiss. So Peter in return gives Wendy an acorn, thinking it’s a kiss.

    • @cardinalhamneggs5253
      @cardinalhamneggs5253 Месяц назад +6

      I feel that including that reference in the series finale is one of the few genuinely cool things about the show.

    • @Acorn905
      @Acorn905 6 дней назад +2

      Aaw! That's so cute :]

  • @Sinornis42
    @Sinornis42 10 месяцев назад +2144

    The baby crocs could just be mimicking the sound their parent makes, especially if they're hearing it often.

    • @RealMissCircleFPE
      @RealMissCircleFPE 10 месяцев назад +137

      We forgetting Tick Tock Croc or as I call her the Clockodile was originally a female?

    • @anikakitty11
      @anikakitty11 10 месяцев назад +29

      ​@PositivePotatoesClub WAIT REALLY?!

    • @RealMissCircleFPE
      @RealMissCircleFPE 10 месяцев назад +40

      @@anikakitty11 Yep in the original play/novel

    • @anikakitty11
      @anikakitty11 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@RealMissCircleFPE that blows my mind

    • @tigerunicornpegases
      @tigerunicornpegases 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@RealMissCircleFPEoriginally i thought she was female in everything 😭

  • @Peachysodabum
    @Peachysodabum 10 месяцев назад +1310

    As a kid, I’ve never understood why other girls had crushes on Peter Pan because he’s so mean to Wendy?? Also poor Wendy has the worst time ever on Neverland. Tinkerbell tries to shoot her down, the mermaids try to drown her, the natives give her a bunch of chores to do during the party, and then she’s kidnapped by pirates. Like damn no wonder she wanted to go home

    • @JackalopeBunny
      @JackalopeBunny 10 месяцев назад +74

      It doesn't get any better when they try to update it or remake it and it doesn't get better for Wendy.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 10 месяцев назад +99

      @@JackalopeBunny Like that version where Wendy doesn't need a man... or something, so her happy thoughts are dying alone. Thank you, that's _sooo_ much better.

    • @JackalopeBunny
      @JackalopeBunny 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@Wendy_O._Koopa pretty much yes those versions.. its pretty much what you said. lol

    • @moonoftheblood
      @moonoftheblood 10 месяцев назад +36

      I'm not a girl but uh I can't explain my crush on him lol idk why, I rewatched the movie recently and figured he's such a BRAT! But the JatNP version of him is much more understandable ok he's sweeter

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@moonofthebloodWhat's the Jatnp version?

  • @eevee813
    @eevee813 10 месяцев назад +321

    I personally believe that the Tic tok croc babies making ticking sounds is just them mimicking their dad I think it’s the cutest and most likely explanation

  • @dekuisagreatmaincharacter
    @dekuisagreatmaincharacter 10 месяцев назад +1416

    As someone who read the original Peter and Wendy novel, your theory of Neverland making it so it’s impossible for people to emotionally grow is VERY plausible.
    Also, in the book and play, Peter is a child forever because he always forgets everything, that’s why he never grows up, further fueling the emotionally stunted theory. I chose to believe everyone forgets the adventure of the episode as soon as the credits roll.
    And to answer your question in the finale, Peter gave Wendy an acorn necklace they call a “kiss” in the original book and play.

    • @vexywexypoo
      @vexywexypoo 10 месяцев назад +89

      In Once Upon a Time, being on Neverland didn't directly make them quit aging, it allowed Peter (who had a whole ass kid) to revert to a younger age and stay that way.

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 10 месяцев назад +35

      ​@@vexywexypooAnd that kid was Mr. Gold!

    • @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy
      @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy 10 месяцев назад

      @@mitchfletcher2386rumplestiltskin

    • @FruityisFruity
      @FruityisFruity 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@mitchfletcher2386And Mr. Gold was Rumpelstiltskin and the beast from Beauty and the Beast.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 10 месяцев назад +15

      Wait... I distinctly remember their "kiss" being a thimble?

  • @PalisadePeryton
    @PalisadePeryton 10 месяцев назад +2269

    Faith, Trust, and Lovers of Butts.

  • @anisyal.4502
    @anisyal.4502 10 месяцев назад +365

    Okay, but you don’t understand. I NEED to see an Octonauts deep dive now.
    Like, who runs the organization? How many octonauts are there? Where do they get the funding?

    • @lucasmatthiessen1570
      @lucasmatthiessen1570 10 месяцев назад +28

      She said she is going to make a video on that. But my question is what are fish biscuits? Why do they feed any creature they rescue fish biscuits. And what are those smiling yellow cake looking things growing in their garden?

    • @moeshmoe8494
      @moeshmoe8494 10 месяцев назад +11

      I’d take an octonauts video over pixie hollow any day and I love pixie hollow.

    • @lucasmarble2572
      @lucasmarble2572 10 месяцев назад +7

      Coming later this month! Hopefully… she did say it was gonna be a looooong one.

  • @ijlayugan4149
    @ijlayugan4149 10 месяцев назад +1636

    29:42 "He doesn't care they miss Bucky. He doesn't give a fucky" Im so weak

    • @Jaceman4390
      @Jaceman4390 10 месяцев назад +28

      29:47 u r 5 seconds off there

    • @xxHaruBeepxx
      @xxHaruBeepxx 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Jaceman4390Actually they're 2 minutes off ☝🏻🤓 29:45

    • @marianovallejo3107
      @marianovallejo3107 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@xxHaruBeepxx
      Hello.
      I have some questions that I hope someone answers me:
      1) Why was the movie "Home on the Range" (2004) a failure?
      2) Was it really a bad movie, or was it just not appreciated as it deserved?
      3) Was Disney to blame for the movie doing poorly?
      4) If the film had done well at the box office and in critics, do you think it would have been possible for it to have a sequel?
      5) What would this hypothetical sequel have been about?
      6) What do you think of the movie "Home in the Range" (2004)?
      Any Answer is Valid. As long as it is related to the question.
      Greetings from Argentina🇦🇷

    • @SuperTed19021
      @SuperTed19021 8 месяцев назад +2

      A *little bit of pixie dust* makes a ship (an object) come alive!!!! 🤣😂

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 10 месяцев назад +1171

    Fun fact! In the original Peter Pan story, people _do_ age in Neverland! The only person who never truly aged was Peter himself, and depending on the version Peter would either try to kill any lost boy that stopped being a kid, or they'd simply just run away and join Hook's crew once they became like teens/adults.

    • @malloryshrooms7412
      @malloryshrooms7412 8 месяцев назад +76

      ok woah this is dark 😭😭

    • @SmellyLemons5469
      @SmellyLemons5469 8 месяцев назад +21

      ​@malloryshrooms7412 it's an old story. Waht did you expecyt?

    • @NeyamStar
      @NeyamStar 8 месяцев назад +14

      Wow

    • @leviedds9354
      @leviedds9354 6 месяцев назад +15

      If I did an adaptation, I will make Peter kill them so they don’t join hooks crew

    • @MisterSynyster
      @MisterSynyster Месяц назад +6

      In the sequel book, they find the Lost Lost Boys have basically become a gang of their own and decide to kill Peter to get revenge for his essential ostracization, but they run afoul of a nearby island where every Mother of a Lost Boy have sailed to try to find them (they've been stuck in a maze,) even implying that Peters mother is there, but that he may or may not be ready to try to approach her.

  • @thecoolaxolotlnova8523
    @thecoolaxolotlnova8523 10 месяцев назад +575

    "A good pirate never uses tricks to get treasure" thats right, they murder. No trickery involved.

    • @nikkibrowning4546
      @nikkibrowning4546 9 месяцев назад +38

      There was actually a pirate that specialized in dressing up as allies of their target and pulling weapons out once they were invited on board.

    • @gasmaskman1354
      @gasmaskman1354 7 месяцев назад +5

      spoken like a true ork

    • @giantpinkcat
      @giantpinkcat 5 месяцев назад +5

      I mean considering how they treated Hook in Season 1....I think they totally would do the latter instead.

  • @JhasmineWisheart
    @JhasmineWisheart 10 месяцев назад +756

    A good pirate never takes anothers property
    They just permanently borrow

    • @shemayahalexander6601
      @shemayahalexander6601 10 месяцев назад +15

      Lol 😂

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 10 месяцев назад +8

      Marisa Kirisame complex?!

    • @JhasmineWisheart
      @JhasmineWisheart 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@BinglesP WOOOOO SOMEONE GOT THE REFRENCE!!!!!

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@JhasmineWisheart WAIT REALLY?!
      That's awesome!!!

    • @caitlincabzz0918
      @caitlincabzz0918 10 месяцев назад +5

      And replace it with some arts and crafts they made that looks identical

  • @Mooms
    @Mooms 10 месяцев назад +1431

    Fun fact: The show was originally supposed to be a spin-off of Pirates Of The Caribbean but they scrapped it in favor of it being connected to Peter Pan

    • @mamabear1394
      @mamabear1394 10 месяцев назад +164

      WE. WERE. ROBBED

    • @zoey9502
      @zoey9502 10 месяцев назад +67

      So robbed

    • @somerandomperson4693
      @somerandomperson4693 10 месяцев назад +21

      Source?

    • @someguyontheinternet604
      @someguyontheinternet604 10 месяцев назад +68

      If this is true, then that explains the fixation on pirates.

    • @Mooms
      @Mooms 10 месяцев назад +75

      @@somerandomperson4693 From TV Tropes: “The series was originally going to be a Spinoff Babies of Pirates of the Caribbean (yes, really!), but they ditched the idea for a Peter Pan theme instead.”

  • @3CatsInATrenchoat
    @3CatsInATrenchoat 10 месяцев назад +92

    'And Izzy turns invisible, just like every other girl in this series' fire 🔥

  • @Halloweenish
    @Halloweenish 10 месяцев назад +619

    Captain Hook really out here like: “It all began on the day of my birth. Both of my parents failed to show up.”

  • @BluffsCastle
    @BluffsCastle 10 месяцев назад +866

    The Peter Pan special was like the Super Bowl for me

    • @PainInABottle713
      @PainInABottle713 10 месяцев назад +26

      Exactly

    • @AeonKnigh432
      @AeonKnigh432 10 месяцев назад +35

      I could've sworn they crossed over more often but I suppose not

    • @Samsishere
      @Samsishere 10 месяцев назад +19

      Same. I remember I recorded it on the tv. My aunt made fun of me for doing so for some reason, but I was like 8…….

    • @jellymcmichaels4240
      @jellymcmichaels4240 10 месяцев назад +10

      Same here

    • @rileykoman7654
      @rileykoman7654 10 месяцев назад +5

      Huh like when my dad comes back with the milk

  • @amyrodgers4252
    @amyrodgers4252 10 месяцев назад +226

    I always had this theory that Jake, Cubby and Izzy used to be members of the Lost Boys, and they got interested in the idea of becoming good pirates, which didn't appeal to the other lost boys, which was understandable regarding their experiences with pirates. So they were kicked out of the group, and Peter Pan decided to have them live somewhere safe so Captain Hook wouldn't find and potentially kill them in a defenceless state. He enlisted the fairies to help the three learn to fend for themselves gave them those things to do to strengthen them. Obviously, Captain Hook learned about their whereabouts at one point and the series events play out.

    • @AwkwarddFoxx
      @AwkwarddFoxx 7 месяцев назад +23

      Wasn’t one of the Lost Boys actually named Cubby? The bear one, i think

    • @Sofia-k7m2o
      @Sofia-k7m2o 7 месяцев назад

      How can Izzy be a lost boy when she is a GIRL

    • @PlumpProductions-wj3jp
      @PlumpProductions-wj3jp 5 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@AwkwarddFoxx Your correct, the lost boys are Nibs, The Twins, Cubby, Slightly, and Tootles.

    • @NECKBITE
      @NECKBITE 19 дней назад

      @Sofia-k7m2othere’s girls in the lost boys in the live action peter pan for some reason

  • @williamhanekom9882
    @williamhanekom9882 10 месяцев назад +927

    I'm so freaking glad you called out the misogynistic bullshit Wendy went through in the Disney film. Like even as a kid I felt uncomfortable about that mermaid scene. They were LEGIT trying to attack and drown her and then just play it off as she was in the wrong for defending herself. And then he proceeds to abandon her after saving Tiger Lily.
    Like...I don't care if he's a hero to the kids there, I don't trust someone who cuts off a guy's hand and feeds it to a crocodile because of a "dare"

    • @colorgachagamer3255
      @colorgachagamer3255 9 месяцев назад +41

      Actually in a book called "Peter and the Stargazer" which is a prequel to Peter Pan (It's also a stage performance too) it's confirmed that Hook lost his hand by slamming a chest lid hard on his hand by accident.

    • @nicoooo69
      @nicoooo69 9 месяцев назад +20

      ​@@colorgachagamer3255so the entire captain hook lost his hand by fighting peter Pan thing is fake?

    • @colorgachagamer3255
      @colorgachagamer3255 8 месяцев назад +19

      @@nicoooo69 Yeah.. Hook lost his hand by slamming a chest lid on it as proven in the prequel books.

    • @doggycatalan
      @doggycatalan 8 месяцев назад

      Agreed. Peter is an asshole.

    • @Anonymous.User.-lm3ri
      @Anonymous.User.-lm3ri 8 месяцев назад +19

      Honestly makes sense for them both to lie about that. Hook cause its embarrassing and let's people think his hatred for peter is justified. And peter cause im like 90% sure hes mentally a child. Seriously from his attitude to actions to blindness at tinker bell to sexism, i personally see him as a child in an adults body.

  • @thesingingsirenz4714
    @thesingingsirenz4714 10 месяцев назад +827

    About the whole "jake doesnt fly after he saves neverland" thing, if my memory is correct they actually explain it in the episode, Peter Pan says "you can either come with me and be able to fly, or you can stay with your friends" implying that staying = no flight, which lets be honest is an even bigger dick move on top of not even allowing his friends to join in the first place

    • @lilyyoung1002
      @lilyyoung1002 10 месяцев назад +32

      Yes. Exactly 💯

    • @thesingingsirenz4714
      @thesingingsirenz4714 10 месяцев назад +89

      @@lilyyoung1002 Oh and I realized that the entire time they were tryin to make jake just *leave his crew* think about it, not just the first time I said, the second time hes given the power to fly, its when he becomes captain, now think about the show for a moment, name one other (RECURRING AND GOOD, so dont say hook or red because hook is evil and red disappeared) captain who has anybody with them in a crew, if you cant think of any, then you can see where I'm going with this, once again, both peter (and I guess the tree since it gave him the sword to find the colossus???) want Jake to abandon his crew (or maybe his worldly desires, if we were to make the avatar comparison) and then for the final one, only HE gets the super power of no-pixie-dust flight and for all we know, if he tried leaving with the power, maybe he wouldve kept it? All im saying is, SHADY AS HELL BRO

    • @Chriskentfan94
      @Chriskentfan94 10 месяцев назад +76

      ​@@thesingingsirenz4714 well remember Peter Pan is also a pixie prankster prince that sometimes plays pirate because he gets bored of being the pixie prankster sometimes.
      I think Peter as sassy as he is might have been trying to show Jake that being a pixie/fairy is a better course of action in Neverland than being a buckaneer.

    • @thesingingsirenz4714
      @thesingingsirenz4714 10 месяцев назад +48

      @@Chriskentfan94 on one hand, that's a very good point, but on the other that doesn't change the fact he actively highlighted the fact Jake had to abandon his friends he's know for... who knows how long? And you can't just say Peter is a lone wolf trying to make jake take that same route either, he has his shadow, tinkerbell, and Jake himself technically if he actually agreed to the flight terms and conditions, so still kind of a rude thing to do

    • @Chriskentfan94
      @Chriskentfan94 10 месяцев назад +45

      @@thesingingsirenz4714 again, that's part of Peter being a fairy...fairies are notorious for being fickle.
      It really depends on the day what mood Peter's in about whatever he does.

  • @dwen_mix_
    @dwen_mix_ 10 месяцев назад +186

    I cannot stress enough how much the stupid clip of Captain Hook yelling at the literal Croc with a TikTok logo on it made me laugh

  • @lostboysonce3133
    @lostboysonce3133 10 месяцев назад +577

    Fun Fact: Mr. Darling and Captain Hook are traditionally played/voiced by the same person. This is because they both represent the fear of growing up, one in the mind of a child and the other as a real world example. The only time this wasn't kept up was in the Peter Pan and Wendy reboot Disney did (not surprisingly).
    Edit: Holy cow that's a lot of likes...

  • @ronan-outoftime
    @ronan-outoftime 10 месяцев назад +316

    and then he turned himself into a constellation. funniest shit i've ever seen

  • @TheMrTeaParty
    @TheMrTeaParty 10 месяцев назад +38

    12:04 are we not gon talk about the animation error in this frame with Captain Hook having both hands again

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 10 месяцев назад +473

    _"A good pirate never steals another man's property."_
    *~ J.M. Barrie, writing the first chapter in the early draft of his lost screenplay, "Captain Jacob: Young Pirate of Neverland"*

  • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
    @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 10 месяцев назад +999

    The special where Bucky got taken away genuinely, and I mean GENUINELY CRIED WHEN THAT HAPPENED! MY 8 YEAR OLD SELF WAS SO SAD WHEN THAT HAPPENED

    • @HiItzBella
      @HiItzBella 10 месяцев назад +21

      BRO SAME 😭😭

    • @miraculousabridged2857
      @miraculousabridged2857 10 месяцев назад +7

      Same

    • @maycafeng7563
      @maycafeng7563 10 месяцев назад +23

      same oh my God! Also I freaking loved the "What makes a hero" song so much even though baby me had no idea what half of the words are

    • @Marinefan4000
      @Marinefan4000 10 месяцев назад +4

      Not a true fan if they didn’t.

    • @Shadow_Draws_20
      @Shadow_Draws_20 10 месяцев назад +6

      It wasn’t just me?! 😭 I was literally bawling my eyes out when I saw that episode

  • @DepthTravel
    @DepthTravel 10 месяцев назад +45

    neverland pirates: we only use pixie dust during emergencies.
    also neverland pirates: let’s waste our pixie dust every day.

  • @seagoulash9592
    @seagoulash9592 10 месяцев назад +358

    Pirates actually had surprisingly thorough rules per ship, so It's not much of a stretch that a group of pirates that stay around the same cove/island would get together to make a set of shared rules in addition to their ship's own rules.

    • @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy
      @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy 10 месяцев назад +43

      If I remember correctly, the general rules for Pirates were:
      A captain doesn’t make any serious decisions without first asking for the crews vote
      Everyone is paid what they have earned(the captain WOULD get a higher amount but only by a small amount)
      No Racism
      No women(usually)
      No staying up too late(unless you had night shift)
      No gambling(on ship)
      No stealing(on ship)
      No heavy drinking(on ship)
      Bathe when you can(mostly optional)

    • @nobodyimportant2470
      @nobodyimportant2470 10 месяцев назад +34

      @@MatthewTeachout-xj4yyPirate ships were democracies while out of combat. The captain took charge when they went after a ship because it made taking the loot easier with 1 person in charge.
      The navigator tended to have more influence over what they did because he had the skills to get them where the good plunder was.

    • @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy
      @MatthewTeachout-xj4yy 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@nobodyimportant2470 thanks for the info

  • @trifsith
    @trifsith 10 месяцев назад +821

    3:50 "Having a big ass had negative connotation in the 50s"
    Girl, having a small butt was desirable up to the 90s. Actually wanting a plump backside is VERY recent thing.

    • @CraftyVegan
      @CraftyVegan 10 месяцев назад +115

      The creator Tee Noir has a pair of Kardashian videos that explains why this phenomenon happened and even goes back in history to talk about the racism behind it all 👍

    • @SpongeyTheEditor
      @SpongeyTheEditor 10 месяцев назад +55

      I guess you can thank Sir Mix a Lot lol

    • @katelynna10000
      @katelynna10000 10 месяцев назад +72

      *Fat Bottom Girls plays at increasing volume as it gets closer*

    • @ClownHoundII
      @ClownHoundII 10 месяцев назад +44

      ​@@katelynna10000 Fat Bottom Girls got so popular due to it being outside of the beauty standards at the time. Men who liked big butts were looked at weirdly.

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 10 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@CraftyVegan dude thats awesome thank you for sharing this. i mean not the racism. but the history is interesting, and i think learning about the past as much as possible is the way to make sure history isnt repeated

  • @SecretIdentityStudio
    @SecretIdentityStudio 10 месяцев назад +104

    This is why i don't get people complaining about Disney Fairies. That was consistent, its characterization of Tink made sense because the first half of the franchise (timeline-wise, not release order) takes place before she meets Peter and the other half after he gets bored and ditches her (something in character for him), and most of what it added to the lore was from Barrie, like fairy talents and Captain Hook's purple blood.
    In contrast, Jake and the Never Land Pirates makes *no* canonical sense, and the one thing everyone memes on is one of the few things that does ("good pirates" are kids playing around, in contrast with "bad pirates" who are actually pirates).

    • @sedeuphadude80
      @sedeuphadude80 8 месяцев назад +11

      Don't question it. Sharky and Bones probably have canon-altering powers at this point.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +3

      Spill tinker bell films ended all of this

    • @PinkCupcakez25
      @PinkCupcakez25 3 месяца назад +1

      Sorry, why does Hook have purple blood? Is he a troll?

  • @kaylaberry1333
    @kaylaberry1333 10 месяцев назад +161

    According to the tinker bell movies fairies can’t fly when wet so it kind of makes sense that they wouldn’t help the mermaids

  • @blakdeth
    @blakdeth 10 месяцев назад +142

    The father reminding you of captain hook is intentional. By tradition set by the play they're played by the same guy.

  • @GenBenREAL
    @GenBenREAL 10 месяцев назад +212

    When I was a wee lad I used to have the fattest crush on Jake and my family never let me live it down

    • @ladysilkwing
      @ladysilkwing 8 месяцев назад +18

      Mine was on Izzy, well before I even knew what a crush was

    • @mrs-dickey
      @mrs-dickey 8 месяцев назад +12

      mine was captain hook...for some reason. i even had a plushie of him, lol

    • @Eliasthescumbag
      @Eliasthescumbag 7 месяцев назад +5

      YOOOOO SAAAME
      i dressed up as him first halloween, i got a plush of him from walmart, i was OBSESSED
      another character i liked at the same time was
      you probably didnt guess it!
      jessica rabbit...

    • @A_Modern_Tragedy
      @A_Modern_Tragedy 6 месяцев назад +12

      I literally turned that boy into my imaginary friend for a solid year. Shit was not healthy 😭

  • @0iqgremlin414
    @0iqgremlin414 10 месяцев назад +541

    I genuinely HATE any media that centers around sharing as its main moral because they never take the time to tell you that sometimes it's okay to say NO!
    Sometimes its okay to not want to share an item, and it's not okay to bully or guilt trip somebody into sharing. Especially if it's a sentimental item (Glares at Elmo in Grouchland)
    It's an especially important lesson to learn in this day and age to learn that its okay to not share FOOD! Because of how common and well known food allergies are, its okay to not share a food that might have an allergen, or a food only you can eat if you have a lot of allergies that severely limit what you can eat.
    I dont expect nuanced morals in a show made for drooling babies but the whole "sharing is caring" thing needs to be expanded on in kid's media because Im tired of seeing main characters or even side characters being guilted into sharing

    • @princessofweirdsville9000
      @princessofweirdsville9000 10 месяцев назад +32

      That’s… actually very valid. Would you say JatNP is that kinda show? Chase I remember them saying no

    • @princessofweirdsville9000
      @princessofweirdsville9000 10 месяцев назад +4

      *cause

    • @Peptobizzy
      @Peptobizzy 10 месяцев назад +58

      Like Jake letting Hook throw a fit and then rewarding him for it and even sharing his bday wish with him… at some point it’s time to say no

    • @princessofweirdsville9000
      @princessofweirdsville9000 10 месяцев назад +19

      @@Peptobizzy also very true. I didn’t really catch onto this when I was younger, so now that I’m older, this event bothers me, and now I don’t enjoy the show as much anymore, which sucks

    • @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
      @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 10 месяцев назад +66

      I feel like kids media should have the message "it's good to share but if you don't feel comfortable doing so you have the right to say no" hell that could have been a great message for the Hook birthday episode and have it be Jake placing boundaries and later have Hook respect said boundaries

  • @jaredtheastralartist2510
    @jaredtheastralartist2510 10 месяцев назад +562

    JAKE AND THE NEVER LAND PIRATES!!! AND ME!!
    You know, I could totally see these characters in one piece

    • @Dr.Soda1
      @Dr.Soda1 10 месяцев назад +67

      I need a Jake and the Neverland Pirates X One Piece crossover now.
      Please…

    • @mamabear1394
      @mamabear1394 10 месяцев назад

      Did you think there's a fanfic on AO3​@@Dr.Soda1

    • @didimentioniplaythetrombon3454
      @didimentioniplaythetrombon3454 10 месяцев назад +23

      I swear to god the “AND ME!!!” part was in the theme song, but I can't find it anywhere 😭

    • @caterpee
      @caterpee 10 месяцев назад +24

      Lowkey i think luffy would turn these kids toward violence like these kids would just beat capt hook after hanging out with luffy

    • @DKdusk
      @DKdusk 10 месяцев назад +25

      Jake:And pirates doesnt steal other people proprety
      *Luffy looks at his crew*
      Luffy:SEEEEE?!! I TOLD YOU GUYS!!!

  • @alexiswelsh5821
    @alexiswelsh5821 10 месяцев назад +85

    I heard a theory from Isaac Carlson that Peter Pan and Jake both had to give up part of their soul to restore the Ever Tree, which explains why Peter’s shadow can detach itself.
    It also explains why Peter had Jake go through the ritual, instead of doing it again. Peter presumably can’t afford to give up more soul, meanwhile Jake has plenty of soul to spare.

    • @RosyLanderos
      @RosyLanderos Месяц назад +1

      Oh Jesus…,What the hell!? 😶💀

  • @Rexdrinksredbull
    @Rexdrinksredbull 10 месяцев назад +255

    Sharky and Bones' story is so cute, I'm glad this niche little pirate band found some big support!

  • @kasagure.
    @kasagure. 10 месяцев назад +156

    i feel like the reason the kids never really get mad at Hook for endangering them is because they're aware of their cosmic roles and they know that no real harm can ever truly come to them. between the fairies and Peter Pan they know that they're safe no matter what

  • @shockdiesel3470
    @shockdiesel3470 10 месяцев назад +235

    Fun fact, Tinkerbell theoretically, at this point in her own life, is dating the dust keeper fairy Terrence and has already lost the ability to fly before getting that ability back by the fact that she has a Frost fairy sister Perry Winkle, who happens to have the same wing pattern. Not to mention the fact that Tinkerbell is the reason Wendy got her repaired music box back after it broke and washed up on the shore of neverland.

    • @elsie8757
      @elsie8757 9 месяцев назад +25

      She'd BETTER be dating Terence by now, or so help me God-

    • @shockdiesel3470
      @shockdiesel3470 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@elsie8757 I feel you. They're adorable

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +5

      Actually this takes place after the pirate fairy which is the fifth tinker bell film

    • @shockdiesel3470
      @shockdiesel3470 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@WinxAliNelCielo The original movie takes place after Tinkerbell 5 Tinkerbell and the pirate fairy, why? Because captain hook is the second in command to the dust keeper pirate, Whose name I suddenly forget.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@shockdiesel3470 Peter Pan does take place after the pirate fairy that’s what I said

  • @CassiusSharp
    @CassiusSharp 10 месяцев назад +374

    43:14 I think the rule about never Aging only applies to people who aren’t from Neverland. If you’re born in Neverland, you can age but if you’re like the lost boys you never age
    Edit: they need to be able to age otherwise Tiger lily would still be a fetus in her mother’s womb

    • @aag2139
      @aag2139 10 месяцев назад +42

      I wonder if the neverland-borns age in the normal earth?

    • @Chriskentfan94
      @Chriskentfan94 10 месяцев назад +67

      Neverland's rules are "you only age if you want to" otherwise you don't. It's very much "Imagination Island".

  • @kivaproductionliege1313
    @kivaproductionliege1313 10 месяцев назад +965

    Fun Fact: They totally could have done a crossover of Jake and Sofia the First, especially since Marina the Mermaid is voiced by Ariel Winter who voiced Sofia and they never recasted her and Marina and Jake were always teased as a couple, so they could have done a crossover where Marina and Sofia fought over Jake and Izzy taught them to not care about boys and be independent women, but really it’s just an excuse so she can have Jake all to herself in their hideout. LOL

    • @JumbledJunkCollecting
      @JumbledJunkCollecting 10 месяцев назад +58

      That plot is so good lol

    • @ceylonwilliams8353
      @ceylonwilliams8353 10 месяцев назад +122

      That's a crackfic I would totally read

    • @Nope-gk3yr
      @Nope-gk3yr 10 месяцев назад +41

      Tho they would have to put Sofia In 2D

    • @purplepedantry
      @purplepedantry 10 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@Nope-gk3yr
      They could also have Jake & Co. in 3D, but that might look wrong...

    • @Chriskentfan94
      @Chriskentfan94 10 месяцев назад +59

      Sofia wouldn't be fighting over Jake though...she already has Hugo.

  • @petertownsend9148
    @petertownsend9148 9 месяцев назад +16

    The idea that Neverland doesn’t just stop you from physically aging, but growing as a person is actually a thing in the original source material. In the sequel to the original book when the now adult Lost Boys pretend to be children again Neverland’s magic turns them back into children and when they start acting mature they physically age until they are banished from Neverland.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +1

      For the Disney version the people aged until the destruction of the pixie dust tree then mother dove’s eggs stopped aging

  • @cephalo_bot
    @cephalo_bot 10 месяцев назад +366

    19:24 Listen, this was a theme in the original book. Peter is actually the only child in Neverland who doesn't age. He lives forever but has a very short memory that prevents him from emotionally maturing or retaining any lasting trauma. These memories only show up for him in nightmares that he forgets about immediately after. In the book these nightmares are described as being about "the riddle of his existence."

    • @kiv3745
      @kiv3745 10 месяцев назад +34

      cheezus dude. i thought it was just some fairy shit, why did it get deep

    • @KenikoB
      @KenikoB 10 месяцев назад +32

      He also culls the lost boys when they start to get too old

    • @cephalo_bot
      @cephalo_bot 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@kiv3745 Yeah that's just what the book is like, it's really sad.

    • @cephalo_bot
      @cephalo_bot 10 месяцев назад +21

      @@KenikoB Yeah, it literally says that he "thins them out" it's like lord of the flies.

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@kiv3745 I mean, the whole book's like that. Why is Neverland a bunch of random unconnected 'Adventure Storybook' stuff? Because it's what kids like to make believe when they play pretend, and Neverland is where 'playing pretend' takes place. Peter is such an ass because he's like the concept of a child, come to life, unable to be anything but the concept of a child--he can't be anything other than a wild brat who only does what he wants and thinks violence is funny, he can't learn or grow because that would mean he's growing up and that's the opposite of 'being a child.' People die and come back to life because it's all make believe, except they really die and really come back to life. People get forgotten and it's the same as if they never existed. It all functions on kid logic ("pew pew, you're dead!" "no I'm not, I've got secret live-forever powers!") except that's really creepy if you actually think about it.

  • @Urmumlel7025
    @Urmumlel7025 10 месяцев назад +242

    *A good pirate steals people's prosperity.*

    • @Loopsy3
      @Loopsy3 10 месяцев назад +16

      ʸᵒᵘʳ ⁿᵉˣᵗ

    • @AeonKnigh432
      @AeonKnigh432 10 месяцев назад +20

      If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing

    • @RyalnS.-ks2ln
      @RyalnS.-ks2ln 10 месяцев назад

      Prosperity stolen MWAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @irwingrodriguez553
    @irwingrodriguez553 9 месяцев назад +112

    I remember hating season 4 with all my heart as a kid, no more Sharky and Bones on the credits, Bucky is partly shafted by the new boat. Cubby, Izzy and Skully are also shafted hard to make Jake look cooler, and the shift from 'adventure' to 'action' felt really forced. Not surprised the show got cancelled afterwards

    • @yurikoshokugan4395
      @yurikoshokugan4395 4 месяца назад +2

      Do you think the 4th season undermines the olderer ones?

    • @marianab6189
      @marianab6189 Месяц назад

      FINALLY SOMEONE WHO THINKS THE SAME AS ME
      i hated (and currently hate it) it for the things you already mentioned but i also think that jake lost his funny/goofy personality, like, in the past seasons my boy would make a joke or say something funny, or make a sassy comment or look,,HE WOULD BE HAPPY AF BCS HOOK PATTED HIS HEAD WHEN THEY SAVED HIM FROM FALLING INTO A VOLCANO,,i know that became a captain could imply to be more mature but come on,,,he already was the leader of his crew and had personality, and not to mention that izzy, cubby amd skully seemed to be secondary characters amd not protagonists,,

    • @marianab6189
      @marianab6189 Месяц назад

      and not to mention that awful finale, i think it’s confirmed that series ended bcs jatnlp staff left for mickey races stuff program, i was really sad at the beginning but i thought,,,if the series would continue with season 5 and onwards with that shitty animation and the reasons i mentioned before,,,no please, i didn’t want it either

  • @jitterbug3545
    @jitterbug3545 10 месяцев назад +148

    Love the idea that Hook's crew just autobalances the server whenever the odds are uneven lolol

  • @Groggle7141
    @Groggle7141 10 месяцев назад +260

    4:18 In the original book and play by Sir Barrie, Peter Pan was a baby abandoned by his parents. He was rescued by birds/fairies and taken to Neverland, where he became the magical boy who never grew up. So he is human, just a magical human

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +7

      Interesting. Her headcanon (and mine) is that Disney Peter was born when a baby died of laughter and produced a fairy human hybrid 🙂

    • @cardinalhamneggs5253
      @cardinalhamneggs5253 Месяц назад +2

      @@WinxAliNelCieloWhy do I find that theory both tragic and hilarious?

    • @RosyLanderos
      @RosyLanderos 4 дня назад +1

      Peter would be rather a complete human from birth and the both humans parents and being raised for time by birds and finally adopted by the Neverfairies specially by a Queen fairy (and this Disney case the Queen Clarion)doing so as a Prince of Neverfairies and over time a human/never fairy hybrid that we all know,but he would feel hatred and resentment towards the Never fairies specially the Queen fairy,except TinkerBell 😐😶

  • @dinam3236
    @dinam3236 10 месяцев назад +71

    Yeah... I think you're missing out on a few key things by not reading the original book and/or play by J. M. Barrie. A lot of things you wonder about is pretty explicitly covered there... especially the acorn neclace/kiss. I notice other commenters have explained it, but just to be clear...
    in the original play/book, when Wendy first sews Peter's shadow back on, she says she'll give him a kiss if he likes.
    Peter doesn't know what a kiss is, so he holds out his hand, expecting a present. Wendy feels bad about confusing him, so she gives him a thimble from her sewing kit. (Later, when she actually kisses him, she calls that "giving him a thimble" to avoid confusing him.)
    Later in the conversation, Peter says he'll give HER a kiss, which he now takes to mean "a small object." He gives her an acorn, which she decides to wear on a string around her neck.
    This decision saves her life. Remember Tinker Bell tricking the Lost Boys to shoot at Wendy? Yeah, in the book/play, they HIT her. With a sharp arrow. But the arrow turns out to have hit the acorn neckace, so Wendy survives.
    Course, this bit never made it into the Disney version, but it's iconic in all non-Disney versions of Peter Pan, which is probably why it was referenced here.
    By the way, if you want a non-traditional rendition of the original Peter Pan play, I can recommend "Peter Pan Goes Wrong." It's about an incompetent amateur theatrical group who try to put on the Peter Pan play and absolutely EVERYTHING goes wrong. Actors miss their cues and forget their lines, every flying scene end in crash and disaster and/or the actors getting stripped to their underwear because their clothes fly off but they don't, music and sound effects going wrong, and several scenes where someone gets knocked unconscious and someone else has to take over the role... Peter Pan goes through three actors in the same show, leading to a bizarre twist where the crocodile ends up being the hero of the day. It's hilarious. ^_^

    • @AthenaPOfficial
      @AthenaPOfficial  10 месяцев назад +25

      I’d love to cover more Peter Pan but I just figured since this is a Disney show I’d get the context I need through how Disney built up the world. Had no idea that they would have Easter eggs to things not within their own animated canon! Hahaha excited to cover tinkerbell and pixie hollows stand alone movies and I’ll try to go even deeper with those! Thanks for the comment!

    • @dinam3236
      @dinam3236 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@AthenaPOfficial No prob. ^_^ It's also kind of interesting that you drew a number of conclusions about things that are almost directly spelled out in the book.
      Like how not growing up means no emotional growth? Yeah, that's a pretty big part of Peter in the book. He never learns and never grows emotionally, because that would mean growing up on some level, and that's what Peter absolutely refuses to do.
      There's this entire bit in the book where Hook tricks Peter with a pretty obvious ploy/lie, and Peter falls for it because he's a little kid and it doesn't even OCCUR to him that Hook wouldn't play fair. The narrative steps in to say that this isn't the first time he's been tricked like that and won't be the last time, because he always forgets it afterwards. Remembering would mean learning from his mistakes and growing up, and so he just DOESN'T.
      It actually goes further; in the original story Peter actually kills Hook at the end. When he visits Wendy in London a year later, he doesn't even remember who Captain Hook is and is actually completely callous about it: "I forget them as soon as I kill them." Again, remembering and living with having killed someone would mean growing up on some level, so Peter just forgets in order to never grow up. Even more tragically, Tinker Bell is implied to have died as well, and Peter doesn't remember her either.
      The original Peter Pan is really a very tragic character, but Disney toned him down a LOT. (Disney also made the decision to have Hook survive because Walt correctly surmised that the audience would finds him entertaining and not want to see him die.)
      Finally, it's revealed in the book that Neverland doesn't actually stop you from growing up; it IS possible to grow up there... it's briefly mentioned that if a Lost Boy starts growing up, Peter will either kill or banish him. The details aren't really revealed until in the sequel "Peter Pan in Scarlet" (written by Geraldine McCaughrean for the Great Ormond Street Hospital to make sure they kept the copyright).
      Here it's explained clearly: You CAN avoid growing up in Neverland, but ONLY by utterly refusing to even entertain the idea. If a Lost Boy ever starts speculating about what he might become when he grows up... he WILL start growing up.
      If this is canon to Disney's Peter Pan might be dubious, but it WOULD explain how Hook could be born in Neverland and be an adult. (The book's Hook very blatantly did not come from Neverland; he's implied to have been a British nobleman who turned to piracy, but Disney's Hook is clearly a different beast.)
      I ramble on. Sorry. ^_^*

    • @NeyamStar
      @NeyamStar 8 месяцев назад

      Nahhhh

  • @justaperson8381
    @justaperson8381 10 месяцев назад +152

    Shoutout to Athena for doing unique themed makeup for every single video! (Also congrats on your marriage )

  • @MischiefMakerMarcy
    @MischiefMakerMarcy 10 месяцев назад +233

    53:45
    Athena: WHY IS THE MINOTAUR-
    Me: HOT?!
    Athena: A PIRATE!?
    Me: -Oop nevermind

    • @angelsartandgaming
      @angelsartandgaming 10 месяцев назад +21

      Okay but hear me out!

    • @TheSleepySev
      @TheSleepySev 6 месяцев назад +2

      SAMMEEEEEEE
      but also with a lot of the villains in the series 😭

  • @ilovedogs1179
    @ilovedogs1179 10 месяцев назад +21

    I remember as a kid I used to play with a boy who frequented the same park as I did and we would play Jake and the never land pirates. I simply followed his story as I didn’t want to be any of the characters but we marched around a circle in the sand while singing the pirate chest song. Such good times.

  • @Chaoticrambler
    @Chaoticrambler 10 месяцев назад +136

    I imagine they call Captain Flynn legendary because he is based on real life pirate actor Errol Flynn.

    • @marianovallejo3107
      @marianovallejo3107 9 месяцев назад

      And To create Red Jessica, the creators of JATNP were inspired by Shakira, right?
      I say this, because now I've realized that Red Jessica looks like Shakira... But with red hair.

  • @tlblitz42
    @tlblitz42 10 месяцев назад +100

    The acorn kiss necklace is from the play. It’s this running thread where when they first meet, Wendy lies to Peter about what a kiss is and gives him a thimble, so he gives her the necklace in return. The necklace does end up protecting her, and later on she comes clean and gives Peter a real kiss. Not remotely established in the Disney Expanded Neververse, but not just made up on the spot either

  • @ffi4356
    @ffi4356 10 месяцев назад +71

    This show was my favorite thing ever as a child. I wrote an entire fan fiction and I think it’s the reason why to this day I write books about pirates

    • @alexiagranda3136
      @alexiagranda3136 8 месяцев назад +1

      Drop the name of the books

    • @WildLink_42
      @WildLink_42 7 месяцев назад +1

      Did you ever post that fic of yours?

    • @ffi4356
      @ffi4356 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@WildLink_42 nah, I was like 8 when I wrote it

  • @Cypher.
    @Cypher. 10 месяцев назад +161

    I don't know how likely this is, but it would be cool to see a lore video on Bubble Guppies. From the sheer amount of music in the show (including a Lady Gaga parody) to the amount of stuff the guppies get up to. Also the fact that there's only the 6 (later 7) guppies and everyone else is made up of lobsters and crabs is weird. Also they got a surprising amount of guest stars from RuPaul to Ozzy Osbourne.

    • @Zvwry
      @Zvwry 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yes yes yessssss

    • @shemayahalexander6601
      @shemayahalexander6601 10 месяцев назад +2

      Ask her please 🙏 😊

    • @jellymcmichaels4240
      @jellymcmichaels4240 10 месяцев назад +2

      Ooh, not a bad idea!

    • @byulharangforlife
      @byulharangforlife 10 месяцев назад +14

      i actually discovered poker face from BUBBLE GUPPIES

    • @zoey9502
      @zoey9502 10 месяцев назад +4

      I really want her to this show was my childhood I watched it realigiously until I was 12

  • @Luci.el.
    @Luci.el. 10 месяцев назад +81

    The acorn necklace is actually from the original play. For a show that throws out so much of the lore it’s actually kinda nice that they played homage to it

  • @Digital-Wave
    @Digital-Wave 10 месяцев назад +69

    The Copyright for Peter Pan is owned by a Hospital (and still is to this day), and the author J M Barrie, gifted the copyright to them in 1929 and will continue to keep the copyright forever.

    • @fritzy8318
      @fritzy8318 10 месяцев назад +4

      So when it’s up Disney can’t do Jackshit. They can just fuckin renew it.

    • @Digital-Wave
      @Digital-Wave 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@fritzy8318@fritzy8318 At least in the UK. In the US, it is a different story.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад

      That’s why anyone can derive from it

  • @purplevorpal
    @purplevorpal 10 месяцев назад +266

    the cutaways always get me, especially the sewing one lol

  • @elphieb3538
    @elphieb3538 10 месяцев назад +98

    *The show creators making Bucky:* Ok, hear us out. The spawn of the Smart House from that old Disney movie and the Home Alone house, but make it a ship.
    *Everyone else:* Genius

  • @Emerald-Fluffie
    @Emerald-Fluffie 8 месяцев назад +32

    “A good pirate never takes another person’s property”
    Jake and the Neverland Pirates confirms that piracy, is in fact, not theft

  • @isaiahdooley5953
    @isaiahdooley5953 10 месяцев назад +362

    The Mandela effect is real. I REMEMBER them saying “a good pirate never takes a person’s property” and I’m a little shook.

    • @bluntfishtrauma
      @bluntfishtrauma 10 месяцев назад +18

      i remember the picture of the quote from the book went viral years ago. that's what people are remembering

    • @isaiahdooley5953
      @isaiahdooley5953 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@bluntfishtrauma I know. She mentioned that in the video lmao.

    • @thegreatestgatsby
      @thegreatestgatsby 10 месяцев назад +7

      I think there was a commercial with them standing next to a sign that said that maybe

    • @Tirnel_S
      @Tirnel_S 10 месяцев назад +1

      Potter Puppet Pals AND Niga Higa? Next we're playing the duck song and doing a cute win fail, right?

    • @theultimatenerd9825
      @theultimatenerd9825 8 месяцев назад +1

      I hear the quote in Jake’s voice

  • @stephiestar
    @stephiestar 10 месяцев назад +128

    I agree that Jake and the Neverland Pirates and Sofia the First should have had a crossover. Also that one image of Jake and Sofia reminds me of Jelsa lol

    • @dark-winged-angel136
      @dark-winged-angel136 10 месяцев назад +10

      And moreso,Sofia's voice actor also voices Marina.
      And Jake and Marina have been heavily implied to be interested in each other.
      You should check out this comment in the upper section about a crossover with the plot being about how Marina and Sofia fighting over Jake's affections,and there's a very crackfic ending to it

    • @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
      @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 10 месяцев назад +7

      They should've had Sofia visiting using her mermaid powers

    • @marianab6189
      @marianab6189 Месяц назад +1

      ⁠​⁠@@dark-winged-angel136weren’t izzy and jake always implied to be interested in each other? it read that somewhere,,

    • @dark-winged-angel136
      @dark-winged-angel136 Месяц назад +1

      @@marianab6189 it is very possible that both are true,this isn't something out of the ordinary

  • @MickeyMousekefan
    @MickeyMousekefan 9 месяцев назад +33

    You might wanna consider making a part 2 to this video. The pilot was just leaked and there is A LOT you can go into. Just to name a few, Izzy's name was gonna be Ready (terrible name imo), Bucky had a FACE and could TALK, and there was a FOURTH pirate in Jake's crew. Definitely worth checking out.

  • @Jurassicparkfan1025
    @Jurassicparkfan1025 10 месяцев назад +594

    Pirates steal all the time. 😂😂😂 ("A good pirate never takes someone's property" my butt!)

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. 10 месяцев назад +44

      A GOOD pirate, doesn't steal.
      From the living, anyway.

    • @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
      @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 10 месяцев назад +13

      A good pirate doesn't steal... but a great pirate does :)

  • @joshuaingobo1559
    @joshuaingobo1559 10 месяцев назад +70

    Since Captain Hook fell in love with Red Jessica, I assume that they formed a romantic relationship after JATNP and RTN (and the Disney comics where Hook appeared and House of Mouse) and have two children: C.J. Hook from Descendants: Wicked World and Harry Hook from Descendants 2 & 3.
    Same thing with Smee and Molly, where they have twin sons from Descendants 3.
    If you want to do it, then I suggest that you should make a lore video about the Descendants franchise and how it connects to a lot of Disney movies, comics, and Disney Channel and Disney Junior shows that feature a lot of Disney characters because it’s a lot.

  • @Gamer_Dylan_6
    @Gamer_Dylan_6 10 месяцев назад +20

    Tinker bell (specifically from the pixie hollow movies) was one of my first animated crushes, and every time I'm forced to remember that she's legitimately an inch tall it's whiplash.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад

      In the pirate fairy it says they’re 7 inches tall

  • @1_irisFAN
    @1_irisFAN 10 месяцев назад +90

    I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the episode where Hook becomes a witch and makes Jake absolutely scared of everything, and every time he finds out one of the kids is more brave than him, he tries to MURDER THEM.

    • @juliboc4754
      @juliboc4754 10 месяцев назад +9

      oh I remenber that episode. That was crazy

    • @GREGORGREGORGREGOR-xn9fo
      @GREGORGREGORGREGOR-xn9fo 9 месяцев назад +2

      This episode used to live rent free in my brain! I was unsure if it even existed, but I was so fascinated by it, I think it was my favorite episode. I’d forgotten the whole plot of it, I just remembered it was the one were Jake was scared and it was a big deal.

  • @joelblake5310
    @joelblake5310 10 месяцев назад +67

    This show was so enjoyable. And I have to give props to Captain Hook. Even though he's toned down to fit the more childish nature of the show, he still manages to be a good character. I also have to give props to his voice actor. He really nailed it.

  • @YouveBeenMegged
    @YouveBeenMegged 8 месяцев назад +11

    I mean, if everything really is the faeries, then the “only help certain people/when they feel like it” is _spot-on_ for how the fae act in folklore. Everything they do is for their own entertainment, so of course they’d engineer amusing scenarios and adventures for the kids to go on.

  • @TheVoiceinTheDarkness
    @TheVoiceinTheDarkness 10 месяцев назад +574

    Finally. Excited for this one even though I haven't watched the show.

    • @TheVoiceinTheDarkness
      @TheVoiceinTheDarkness 10 месяцев назад +7

      Also love the gloves!

    • @no_motivation_3469
      @no_motivation_3469 10 месяцев назад +12

      How!? This was one of my childhood core memories 😂😂

    • @no_motivation_3469
      @no_motivation_3469 10 месяцев назад +10

      But fair, not everyone has the same childhood 😊

    • @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
      @Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 10 месяцев назад +7

      I honestly would've believed i dreamt it up if not for this reminding me of it

    • @straneas3099
      @straneas3099 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel i just wanla say i love your pfp lol (and your name-)

  • @GuyWhoWatchesStuff
    @GuyWhoWatchesStuff 10 месяцев назад +72

    25:24
    DO NOT LET THIS PROPAGANDA FOOL YOU
    the pixie dust fountain is already a place in the tinkerbell movie lore, and is placed near a giant (for the pixie's) tree

    • @elsie8757
      @elsie8757 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's IN the tree itself!
      Except in the books' continuity, where there isn't a well/fountain at all and pixie dust is made by grinding the molted feathers of a magical dove into a fine powder.

  • @jstarstudios7110
    @jstarstudios7110 10 месяцев назад +27

    The pirate inventor isn't a pirate who's an inventor - he invents pirate inventions

  • @geoffreyrichards6079
    @geoffreyrichards6079 10 месяцев назад +59

    I’m surprised you didn’t read up on the original story which the animated film and series is based on, since it actually confirms some of your theories regarding the show. Stuff like the island’s locations shifting around and certain characters being emotionally stunted are addressed in Barrie’s Peter Pan story. It’s also the source of Wendy’s acorn necklace in the finale episode.

  • @starry-907
    @starry-907 10 месяцев назад +89

    25:45 to be fair, in regards to the fairies not helping the mermaid city: the only fairy who is able to swim is rani (if a fairy's wings get wet they can get way too heavy, but rani lost her wings due to stuff that's a long story so she's able to swim just fine) and idk if she can do much for the mermaids as one fairy. there's not rly much of an excuse for not helping skybird island tho, you do have a good point there.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah that’s what i was gonna say

  • @thegeekinpink6135
    @thegeekinpink6135 5 месяцев назад +11

    If your theory is right and learning and maturing mentally leads to growing physically that would explain all the adults who have childhood memories of Neverland.
    I like the idea that Hooks mother saw he wasn't growing up on Neverland (because he refuses to learn anything ever) and took him on a literal coming of age trip.

  • @hec-z
    @hec-z 10 месяцев назад +57

    14:23 "I tuned myself into a consellation, Jake. IM CONSELLTATION PETE". I love that.

    • @m.a.a.7463
      @m.a.a.7463 10 месяцев назад +4

      *Constellation

    • @hec-z
      @hec-z 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@m.a.a.7463 I was wonder if I spelt it right or not, thanks man

    • @sedeuphadude80
      @sedeuphadude80 8 месяцев назад

      Ya wouldn't get it, unless you have a high enough Pirate IQ.

    • @hec-z
      @hec-z 8 месяцев назад

      @@sedeuphadude80 or a dear whose willing to be sweet enough to help someone.

  • @spadinnerxylaphone2622
    @spadinnerxylaphone2622 10 месяцев назад +147

    I kinda felt for the dad, because he was trying to live up to an impossible standard and was obviously very stressed. Doesn't justify taking it out on his family, but he eventually learns to not be such a dick. So I feel like if he grew up in a time with therapy, he'd be better.
    Not justifying his actions but just saying that I think he has the potential to grow.

    • @musingmaple
      @musingmaple 10 месяцев назад +18

      Yeah, the book explicitly states that the Darlings are trying to keep up appearances even though they don't even have enough money to hire a proper maid and have to use a dog instead.

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 10 месяцев назад +2

      Anyone who was born in 1985 or earlier (would be 10 years old in 1995, which is about when therapy became a thing in the USA) would have no actual psychiatric care. So it would make sense for the dad and well, everyone.
      No wonder so many rock stars were so depressed. They were born against the norm of being a complacent little worker bee and had no outlet besides music and drugs.
      In 1991 the Ugly Law was finally nullified and it was made a law that mentally ill people could seek care in an open and non oppressive facility like asylums. They finally realized people could be helped and be happy instead of locking them in an asylum and taking all their human rights away the second the person says theyre sad.

  • @rainbowglass8319
    @rainbowglass8319 10 месяцев назад +15

    28:50
    THE WAY I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO SAY "UNALIVE YOURSELF" 😭😭😭💀💀💀

  • @StarryThey-os
    @StarryThey-os 10 месяцев назад +36

    I agree that it is absolutely wild that Sophia and Jake never got a an official crossover, ESPECIALLY SINCE for like 2 summers at the height of both shows the Disney Jr channels summer theme was PIRATE AND PRINCESS SUMMER with both of them as the center focus. And it was elaborate too, whole song with both of them singing, websites with games and crafts you could print out, pretty sure there was some kind of map countdown too. They had every opportunity to make these two crossover as some sort of special finale for the summer theme and they never did which is absolutely insane.
    Edit: Commented this right before you mentioned the Summer song crossover 😅

  • @coreythepeanut
    @coreythepeanut 10 месяцев назад +44

    Jake and the never land pirates could find the one piece with their gadgets. They have something that just finds whatever they’re looking for, beeping when they get close. That’s insane.

  • @AgentJazzy00
    @AgentJazzy00 9 месяцев назад +15

    the fact that, 4 weeks after this video, the full animated pilot AND pitch bible for this was leaked (REVEALING DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND NAMES AND THAT THERE'S AN ENTIRE EXTRA CHARACTER THAT ENDED UP BEING CUT) is so 💀💀💀 Athena you work so SO hard but the universe has it out for you fr

  • @twilightozzylovelyrockocip8222
    @twilightozzylovelyrockocip8222 10 месяцев назад +121

    YES! MY SICK SHOW!!!! I'm in my 20s and everytime I get sick (throwing up, etc.) I go to my mom's, lay in my brother's bed, turn on this show, and sleep.

    • @BinglesP
      @BinglesP 10 месяцев назад +3

      Mood

    • @TheSleepySev
      @TheSleepySev 6 месяцев назад

      Dude that is so unbelievably wholesome ❤

    • @ethnictendo
      @ethnictendo 5 месяцев назад

      I literally used to do this, except mine was Hannah Montana. XD

  • @alexisshefelbine2165
    @alexisshefelbine2165 10 месяцев назад +90

    I’d definitely would love a Doc McStuffins lore dive

  • @halliewright3116
    @halliewright3116 10 месяцев назад +19

    I read a poem recently implying tic toc croc was supposed to symbolize captain hook being older than peter/the lost boys, and that time was chssing him. Diesnt really fit with the "no one on neverland ever ages" theory but it was a great poem

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад

      Actually he was born on the same day Captain Hook took over the sea and got rid of Zarina

  • @gabriellavedier9650
    @gabriellavedier9650 10 месяцев назад +48

    The start... I want to wait but I can't.
    Peter is human, or was. Barrie wrote Peter Pan remembering how his mother said of his dead brother it was good he never grew up, she could always remember him as a young boy. Peter was a baby in London that fell out of his pram and was stolen away by the wind. He brings boys to Neverland so they'll never grow up, but the Lost Boys do grow up, and he has to unalive them and bring more lost boys.
    Also, the father is intentionally like Captain Hook. That's the allegory. And, Nana absolutely belongs in the canon of darling Disney dogs beside Perdita, Delilah, Lady, Peg, Rita, and Georgette.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад

      Fun fact Nana isn’t that far fetched. In that era dogs actually did supervise children

  • @YoshiDojoStamps87
    @YoshiDojoStamps87 10 месяцев назад +92

    I saw Izzy's face and instantly got a rush of nostalgia.
    Also Sharky and Bones are S-Tier -smashes- characters and the songs were *chef's kiss*.

  • @PonyPlays2014
    @PonyPlays2014 10 месяцев назад +9

    All these "Bob's Burgers" clips made me happy as it is one of my all-time favorite shows.
    I remember watching this show and Jake's constant optimism was so funny😂

  • @NotJasonLvsDogs
    @NotJasonLvsDogs 10 месяцев назад +85

    4 YEAR OLD JASON IS THRIVING RIGHT NOW!!! FIRST 8 YEAR OLD JASON (Tlg) AND NOW 4 YEAR OLD JASON! YOU ARE A QUEEN ATHENA!!

  • @avacornthelastponybender8583
    @avacornthelastponybender8583 10 месяцев назад +32

    "I found a scroll, so your free will is gone now"
    That sounds like a Wings of Fire reference

    • @PurgatoryProductions1
      @PurgatoryProductions1 8 месяцев назад +3

      probably not intentional, but i see the reference. darkstalker who?

  • @Ultim_Prower06
    @Ultim_Prower06 10 месяцев назад +8

    The Jake and Hook screenshots have perfect meme potential lmao

  • @JumbledJunkCollecting
    @JumbledJunkCollecting 10 месяцев назад +57

    IZZY WAS ICONIC TO ME, also HOW DID IT TAKE THIS LONG FOR ME TO REALIZE THIS WAS CONNECTED TO PETER PAN
    (P.S. you should do Disney Fairies lore, Backyardigans lore, El Tigre lore, Sid the Science Kid lore, and Alphablocks lore)

  • @bookwyrm8181
    @bookwyrm8181 10 месяцев назад +51

    17:00 They did have a crossover. A core memory in my childhood was when my parents took me and my brother to see this weird kids concert thing with live action people dressed up as the characters from Jake and the Neverland Pirates and Sophia the First. I remember nothing other than that it happened.
    EDIT: 17:56 HOLY SHIT THAT WAS IT. THE CHILDHOOD MEMORIES THIS UNLOCKED

  • @youdontknowwho505
    @youdontknowwho505 10 месяцев назад +16

    Fun Fact: In the book series “Peter and the Starcatchers”, fairy dust actually comes from fallen stars, and Peter stops aging because he touched the star piece directly which imbued him with too much magic. Not like, *”oh he’s just going to age slower”* or *”oh cool magic powers.”* This is UNLESS HE IS KILLED HE IS IMMORTAL. And it isn’t treated as “oh cool I can’t die” it’s treated as “YOU WILL WATCH EVERYONE YOU LOVE ROT AND DIE, NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU LOVE. EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND WILL EVER MEET WILL DIE BEFORE YOU AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT EXCEPT FOR ENDING YOUR OWN LIFE.”
    Also, he’s still a 17 year old in the books too.

    • @WinxAliNelCielo
      @WinxAliNelCielo 8 месяцев назад +3

      In tinker bell books the people aged til the pixie dust tree was destroyed, mother dove’s eggs prevent aging