I play this exact same system using Outwide but the weakness of it is in Midfield, found that depending on your opponent, sometimes its better to switch the SSs behind the CF to AMFs, as long as you those AMFs arent both Hole players because the Hole Players will still run forward like an SS, which will lead to the same problem... Havertz is perfect for the SS role since he drops back, i think you need an AMF that has high aggression or engagement... Like De Paul, Bellingham or even Griezmann... They will drop back to assist the midfield but will still be good enough to be a goal threat and can also hit the low driven crosses... Track back on your wide players is also essential. Another thing worth mentioning is that a good defensive orchestrator can also be good since the movement of them is not just up and down the pitch like a box to box, they move in any direction Which helps cover gaps, same applies to the destroyer playstyle in midfield.
@lxrdnxtii6124 Hi mate, I've played the 361 to death and I hear your point about the midfield aspect. Easy to cut through but the offensive options with the way the GP pushes the defence deep is amazing whilst the box to box break your opponents midfield line and if you have two, they work in tandem, one goes forward the other drops back and they do it quickly too. The orc is too passive during attacks. I prefer to dominate high up the pitch than worry about defending too much. I used to play with 1 or 2 defenders to train how to deal with 4v2 or 3v1 scenarios, so I'm comfortable defending and worth risking it.
been enjoying outwide it's hard to use in the higher division but it gets rid of congestion in the midfield giving my players enough time to think and move while spreading the opponent I use a 4132 lmf ,rmf and cmf above the dmf gave the orchestrator cmf attacking instructions 2 goal poacher and a cross specialist aND creative playmakers on the wings
This has been my go to formation for ages, only since the new update ive changed to a more meta one. This formation has got me top 500 and in the top 1000 multiple times over the last month's. Midfield pairing of Anchorman and Box to Box to be best with Box to Box set as Cmf. I was using deepline on Anchorman but found that deepline on both wide men with attacking on them worked better especially against the 4-2-4 through ball spammers. When you start dominating them they switch to 4-2-4 always. When you lose the ball just slow there counter with your front 3 while midfield block spam through pass and it gives time for wide men to get back. Wide men on deepline helps keep the 3 cb central stops them splitting. Stamina and subs is the key for your wide men and box to box also your 3 CB will use up more stamina so player build is important. Going forward sometimes the 2 SS can get in the CF way and sometimes you end up passing to wrong player no matter how much power you put in the pass. You always have an overlap and space on the wings when switching the play from flank to flank. I was using Quick Counter and OutWide normally switching to OutWide to see games out and dominate possession. Great episode Spoony 👍🏻
I use ‘Target Man’ with high strength, jumping and heading. Watching your game play you love to cross the ball. I think Target Man would be good for you, even if you us it for a Plan B. Tolu Arokodare & Paul Onuachu are both 200m tall (you can buy them of GP)and Kollur is the GOAT.
@JH-io7rb hey dude, thanks for the suggestions. I find those with 70+ pace and acceleration are good. Like Ivan Toney and...no joke... the guy who played for stoke, bayern and psg. I forgot his name... haha but you'll know
@ Toney is quality, play skills are not bad. The player who played for those clubs is Choupo-Moting, he’s playing for New York Red Bulls at the moment. 👍🏻
@DavidTyler-o9d haha nah, there will be better players or even with same skill level plus better squads which will be so tough but I'm super excited for it
Spoony, I feel like possession has been nerfed in last update I think. What do you think? I was using one of your formations with three DMFs (2 orchestrators and one anchor man/destroyer), 2 deep CBs (build ups), one attacking fullback, one offensive (or 2 attacking), two AMFs (creative/ classic no 10 or one neutral) or one AMF and one SS and finally a CF poacher. I used to have a lot of fun with this.
To make it more fun I recommend instead of spinning looser's/winner's wheel depending on the outcome, to spin a 50/50 wheel which will tell which wheel to spin.
@SpoonyPizzas it's weird to watch it feels like i'm watching a replay or sum u feel me i hope u can play with a default camera next videos cause i really enjoy ur content
I'm done with FC 25 and fifa in general. This is actual football. The movements of the players are human and realistic. The body movements and dribbling of FC 25 players are too quick and inhuman especially when you watch a competitive ultimate team match. FC isn't a football simulation anymore. It's now just basically mortal Kombat with the arcade gameplay. It's really annoying
@SpoonyPizzas I'm switching back to efootball even though it isn't a complete game with master league and everything. I miss the good old days of PES 🤦🏿♀️.
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I play this exact same system using Outwide but the weakness of it is in Midfield, found that depending on your opponent, sometimes its better to switch the SSs behind the CF to AMFs, as long as you those AMFs arent both Hole players because the Hole Players will still run forward like an SS, which will lead to the same problem... Havertz is perfect for the SS role since he drops back, i think you need an AMF that has high aggression or engagement... Like De Paul, Bellingham or even Griezmann... They will drop back to assist the midfield but will still be good enough to be a goal threat and can also hit the low driven crosses... Track back on your wide players is also essential.
Another thing worth mentioning is that a good defensive orchestrator can also be good since the movement of them is not just up and down the pitch like a box to box, they move in any direction Which helps cover gaps, same applies to the destroyer playstyle in midfield.
@lxrdnxtii6124 Hi mate, I've played the 361 to death and I hear your point about the midfield aspect. Easy to cut through but the offensive options with the way the GP pushes the defence deep is amazing whilst the box to box break your opponents midfield line and if you have two, they work in tandem, one goes forward the other drops back and they do it quickly too. The orc is too passive during attacks. I prefer to dominate high up the pitch than worry about defending too much. I used to play with 1 or 2 defenders to train how to deal with 4v2 or 3v1 scenarios, so I'm comfortable defending and worth risking it.
been enjoying outwide
it's hard to use in the higher division but it gets rid of congestion in the midfield giving my players enough time to think and move while spreading the opponent
I use a 4132 lmf ,rmf and cmf above the dmf
gave the orchestrator cmf attacking instructions
2 goal poacher and a cross specialist aND creative playmakers on the wings
This has been my go to formation for ages, only since the new update ive changed to a more meta one. This formation has got me top 500 and in the top 1000 multiple times over the last month's. Midfield pairing of Anchorman and Box to Box to be best with Box to Box set as Cmf. I was using deepline on Anchorman but found that deepline on both wide men with attacking on them worked better especially against the 4-2-4 through ball spammers. When you start dominating them they switch to 4-2-4 always. When you lose the ball just slow there counter with your front 3 while midfield block spam through pass and it gives time for wide men to get back. Wide men on deepline helps keep the 3 cb central stops them splitting. Stamina and subs is the key for your wide men and box to box also your 3 CB will use up more stamina so player build is important. Going forward sometimes the 2 SS can get in the CF way and sometimes you end up passing to wrong player no matter how much power you put in the pass. You always have an overlap and space on the wings when switching the play from flank to flank. I was using Quick Counter and OutWide normally switching to OutWide to see games out and dominate possession. Great episode Spoony 👍🏻
@GBigToe excellent info here mate, hopefully i get a chance to sign an anchor to test this out
Love the series Spoony, keep it going as much as you can mate....
@@ALEX86ZILBER I will bro, I'm enjoying it. Online div next
Quick counter is my favorite
I use ‘Target Man’ with high strength, jumping and heading. Watching your game play you love to cross the ball. I think Target Man would be good for you, even if you us it for a Plan B. Tolu Arokodare & Paul Onuachu are both 200m tall (you can buy them of GP)and Kollur is the GOAT.
@JH-io7rb hey dude, thanks for the suggestions. I find those with 70+ pace and acceleration are good. Like Ivan Toney and...no joke... the guy who played for stoke, bayern and psg. I forgot his name... haha but you'll know
@ Toney is quality, play skills are not bad. The player who played for those clubs is Choupo-Moting, he’s playing for New York Red Bulls at the moment. 👍🏻
21:01 what a goal😮
@@BosGaurus05 haha thanks dude, those crosses are killer
@@SpoonyPizzas yeah not many people use out wide and crossing mechanic
You are too good Spoony 😂, might need to add a couple 'spin the loser wheel anyway' wild cards to the winners wheel ❤
@DavidTyler-o9d haha nah, there will be better players or even with same skill level plus better squads which will be so tough but I'm super excited for it
love it Spoony
@@duckbra1n haha I will, he's supposed to be LCB
Spoony, I feel like possession has been nerfed in last update I think. What do you think? I was using one of your formations with three DMFs (2 orchestrators and one anchor man/destroyer), 2 deep CBs (build ups), one attacking fullback, one offensive (or 2 attacking), two AMFs (creative/ classic no 10 or one neutral) or one AMF and one SS and finally a CF poacher. I used to have a lot of fun with this.
Love you Spoony. Tried this formation. It's a banger
Cheers dude and yes it is haha - haven't used possession for a while but felt fine. This just feels crazy good rn though
To make it more fun I recommend instead of spinning looser's/winner's wheel depending on the outcome, to spin a 50/50 wheel which will tell which wheel to spin.
@@csikel22 haha damnnn
Please what’s your camera settings
Great video by the way
@@alfredpokam4251 thanks mate, live broadcast
What was the cross you used. Immense 🤩
@@carlsupermankent stunning low cross, check my attacking tutorial
Ur videos are great in general but this camera u using on the pitch it's really annoying bro😅
Ah sorry bro, what's wrong with it?
@SpoonyPizzas it's weird to watch it feels like i'm watching a replay or sum u feel me i hope u can play with a default camera next videos cause i really enjoy ur content
I'm done with FC 25 and fifa in general. This is actual football. The movements of the players are human and realistic. The body movements and dribbling of FC 25 players are too quick and inhuman especially when you watch a competitive ultimate team match. FC isn't a football simulation anymore. It's now just basically mortal Kombat with the arcade gameplay. It's really annoying
@@enowmessi2844 totally agree. The major issue for me is the lack of player movement. It looks awful.
@SpoonyPizzas I'm switching back to efootball even though it isn't a complete game with master league and everything. I miss the good old days of PES 🤦🏿♀️.