@@TanmayRawat-g8h even indian soldiers eat with their hands , in officer mess daal roti is eaten with hand. So what's your point ? Japanese army is still organised on the basis of the British army. The British army was the best army in the world in discipline and training, they passed on their organisational culture to india , japan , canada, Australia, USA, New Zealand ,Sweden , Malaysia , Singapore. Indian Army would have never been a proper fighting force had it not been for British training and discipline.
My question to Chief and others: "Is this the most important thing to do right now? We have security challenges, modernization and a hundred other important things to deal with so why waste time and energy fixing a wheel that already works? Is the army a toy for bureaucrats and politicians to play around with? I think it is high time that the chief either resigns or buys himself a working spine. A commander like Field Marshal Sam would have said to their face that he would like to command his army in his own way and that he accepts no interference.
Fly pass and mess traditions should not be taken away i agree with other decisions but the two that i mentioned is very integrated in yhe army,airforce and navy.
@@SachinGurjar077 because you think that I like segregation? No I said mess traditions not who gets to use a mess and guess what there is a diffrence between an officer and an OR but its not that they are inferior and JCOs and ORs have themselves a mess and I have had food in it and it's the same as officers mess and I know why you are saying such a thing because you want to trigger me like how Rahul ghandi tried to trigger the soldiers
@@yashvardhansingh1083 Same Food??, In which delusionary world are you living, the Officers Mess is far better than the Soldier and JCO mess, that's why Officers want to continue this segeration, otherwise why they have problem with the same mess, and I also said about Mess Traditions that includes Mess System, this Mess system itself was develop to do segeration in colonial era, The difference in Treatment and Food in Officer's Mess and Soldiers Mess is like of day and night so don't lie to others, many have acknowledged it that Officers get far better treatment than soldiers in Army.
Lot of officer's think only they run the ARMED FORCES But it's a truth without a hardwork of jawan no forces can sustain. Practice which working demoralise jawan In every 10 to 15 min function a jawan stand 3 to 4 hour before the time . Give much importance to officers as they are god !
What all will you de-colonise. The entire structure from the first rank to the highest has foreign roots. Do you not eat mughlai food, or do you discard it because it has foreign roots. Do we not wear pants, tie, and shave.
Before being declared an Anglophile am seriously concerned about the tradition being dumped from Indian Armed Forces. The concern is the efficiency and traditional understanding of the operational and existence of the Indian Armed Forces.....
No need to blend, most of the regiments of the Indian Army date back to 100s of years before independence, they have their own culture and battle honours from major international conflicts in the past thus we must embrace the true Indo-British traditions which built the regiment. Most of these traditions were first performed in India, they should be Indian traditions followed by the colonial commonwealth rather than the other way around.
If you think that our Indian ancient cultures and traditions are backward, then you should get yourself educated a bit (not only formal education should be considered). Abd read some real books and real texts about India's history, you will get to know the success of our kingdoms and achievements in maths and science at that time. We will only grow more and more by following those practices. 'Think before you speak.'
@@PrajwalNayak-so5uv 😆😆😆 are you living in 21St century don't you know how people in other countries talks about us... actually India don't have any culture bcoz India is formed only after Britishers comes to India and the land is completely diverse with entirely different cultures that means we can't follow a common ritual as culture
@@supporter5888 If you think Bharat has no culture, then definitely you should do a PROPER India tour, in which there are temples, isha foundation's places, and many more countless places
It will never be removed in our armed forces as people in top officials use to enjoy these soo called traditional practices. Remember there are loop holes in every system
Watch your tone. You are criticizing the people who are ready to make the supreme sacrifice for the country. I agree that these practices should be removed from the country but I would not dare to lecture or criticise our army leaders. Let them check and decide what needs to be done in these matters.
@@elixir662 Don't go so overboard with this. We have a voluntary defence service and they are paid well just like all other govt officials. They are not above criticism and certainly not above people. Many inhuman practices exist to a degree which general public is not aware of. There is absolutely no point is using regular soldiers as sahayaks for high ranking officials especially in peace locations. Lots of things need to be changed to make our forces absolutely mean and strong rather than big and bulky.
@@anandhujayan6269 I think for you it is as simple as a monetary transaction for services rendered. For most Indians, these men and women represent the highest ideals of courage and service for the country. They do their job in protecting our country and they do it very well. In return we can stay the fuck out of their way in running their organisation, whose inner workings we are blissfully ignorant of. People like you are basing your judgement on what is right or wrong for the military on what grounds exactly? What works in a civilian context or a corporate environment need not necessarily translate into something similar in a military situation. It's an entirely different organisation with a unqiue ideology, goals and expectations. Hence I will ask again for people like you to stop critiquing the army in such a callous fashion as if you were lecturing your local 2 paise politician.
@@elixir662 when the army is above criticism military states like pakistan happen. You have to understand here that a very miniscule percent of the entire defence service actually are in it for patriotism. We are a poor country its a source of employment for majority of them. Just like every other human organisation there is corruption, boot licking, injustice, discrimination in the defence forces too. now this is a controversial opinion, I am not disrespecting or taking anything away from the forces. They did a reasonably good job since 1947 in protecting the country. But sorry they are not above criticism and it is poor tax payers like me who fund this so I will have my say.
@neeraj Very true words @elixir in the name of Supreme sacrifice you can't practice such colonial mindset ...watch your tone Mr. .... There are subordinates and other ranks who have given their Supreme sacrifice far more than Officers ....
British tradition me buddy system/sahayak pratha kab khatam hogi pata nhi justice for Soldier Amit Choudhary , 17 JAK LI , Abhi tak aapne uski ek bhi video nahi banai
I don't think changes are necessary to every field. Each officer is proud of his own regiment so making same uniform, i don't think that's good. Nd aj kal koi kuch bol v nhi sktaa sabko apni padi hai Fauj k baare me koi nhi sochta. If u wanna experiment go somewhere else not in fauj
Common uniforms aren't for everyone. It's only for those holding ranks of brigadier and above. Watch this to know why ruclips.net/video/0t2d6MqRDjY/видео.html
why not have you seen the Uniform of Nazis that bought pride to their nazi army in 2nd world war these are designed by hugo boss .First of all Nazis are not enemies of India . It was against british ,we had no conflict but we hate saying nazis .this is called post colonial disorder . Europe problems are not our problems like jay sharkar ji said. First of Indian army should replace their uniforms even our police force should get updated uniforms with their own unique style.
Vajpayee removed the british george cross in 2001, but our economist pm under congress brought back in that colonial cross. No wonder why congress is a british creation & people call them chamchas & gulam.
We should also dissolve all caste and religion based regiments - let infantry regiments be there for all states with 50% of the men from the state and balance being selected on pan India basis This will reignite martial values from all States
@@Rudraksh-ql4ce Most of the current infantry regiment’s recruitment is not pan India but from few specific states (Grenadiers being the only exception) - further there is no need to preserve the colonial regiments specially the ones named after caste or religions like Jats / Mahars / Sikhs / Rajputs
Traditional Indian uniforms inspired from historical uniforms would be absolutely dope! This standard military caps are so boring and useless and mostly remind me of some wacky dictatorship. Make traditional helmets and turbans the norm.
@@GodslayerARthe horse cavalry used today in India formed by the Jaipur royal family, Hyderabad nizam and Mysore royal family. Their uniforms are designed by Indian royals . The only horse regiment which was made by British is the presidents bodyguard. Tall guys with red uniform, blue pagdi and a staff in hands
@@GodslayerARyou have modernise the uniforms with time . We can't go back and give them ceremonial uniforms like the rajputs or Marathas used to wear . No . We should follow china or Japan system in this case . They have only 3 uniforms . White 2 piece suit , black tie , white hat , black boots for navy . Green 2 piece suit olive tie , black hat , black boot for army . Blue 2 peice suit , tie , blue hat and boots for airforce. That's it . For Sikhs there should be an exception of pagdi . Regiment based uniforms should be removed.
@@jyotiradityachoudhury7987 any logical reason behind it? You think traditional dress makes one less of a soldier? Look at afghanis wearing kurta they fought murican army in cobat dress and won against them it just your mind that accepted british clothes as only option for army dress
We should maintain Centuries old history of our armed forces.... and in the name of introducing Indian culture..... don't mess up Military discipline and Regimental history and glory.
@@GodslayerARthat doesn't mean in a mess instead of a proper clean suit you will introduce a dhoti kurta with a weird looking half jacket . If you are removing old uniforms then bring good designed uniforms instead of dhoti kurta and politician type look
@@GodslayerAR buddy before british... which one you thinks represented Indian Army... Martahas..?? Mughals ?? Semi autonomous rajputs..?? these vassals like of deccan .. of bengal..?? Sikhs?? Jats ?? Gurkhas of Nepal ?? .... orr Afghans under rohillas..nawab or abdali....?? and you cannot take them combined as each and everyone of them was enemy with one other.... were driven by self intrest.
The creator knows very little of the phyce of the Indian Soldier and what makes him a formidable warrior. It is pride and commitment to his partan. He fights and dies for "Naam Namak or Nishan". Don't tarnish aby thing.some don't understand as "colonial!. Let the Army wear dhotis and kurta pajama and go to war !
All The Colonial Practices should not be banned in the Indian Armed Forces partly due to the fact that these are the practices that make the Indian Armed Forces Royal which every soldier craves for....In India , unless u are a an Army Soldier or a Billionaire, you can not live like a KING.....If the govt. Wants to experiment so much, it should go and experiment somewhere other than Fauj..... From a Retired Officers Desk
Government and bureaucrats want to degrade the armed Forces and there is not target to decolonization only and only is bureaucrats want to be superior 😢
First of all , thank you for your service but frankly speaking , we are the taxpaying citizen on whom you all living your "royal life" , secondly Decolonisation is a New World Order , where every country who have been oppressed by Britishers have decided to oust those practices so that they can reconcile with their own cultural roots. Bharatiya culture is Royal enough to make our Army *Shahi* . They will love it and secondly, you are from an Officer's Desk , I expected that you will support it. Thank God , Officers like you are not in majority, otherwise people like you would have launched a Coup against our Govt by now.🙏
Soldiers are not taken into defence forces for living like a king they are there to protect our borders and country from Enemy. So, with all due respect for your service to our country I disagree with your thoughts.
My Fellow mates I also pay taxes and used to pay taxes when I was serving too.......and maybe I am wrong too, I understand because I am a soldier of the olden times where I have only seen the Royal outlook......But, still changes to bring Kurta pajama in messes cannot still be digested by the officers as the govt shd then make it mandatory all over India too........ I am concerned because in messes, or else skme officers will start coming in Chappals whereas the mess is the most Formal Place in a unit....
@Aditya-rw2ly My friend....soldiers and officers are not taken, they volunteer, clear NDA, SSB, and then serve for their country..... It is not the theka of the Defence Forces only to serve the country and protect the borders..... You shd yourself join the ARMY, you will get to know....
Democracy is colonial? Judiciary is colonial? Administration is colonial? Education system is colonial? Even national anthem is colonial.. Educate yourself about history and move ON!!!
The modern parliamentary system with its democratic principles was introduced by the British. The modern Indian judicial system is based on the British legal system. IPC was introduced in 1860 The Indian Civil Services (ICS), which was the predecessor of the current Indian Administrative Service (IAS), was set up by the British. The British introduced the modern education system in India, replacing traditional system and primarily aimed at producing clerks and administrators to help run the British Empire. National Anthem was made by Indians without any British involvement.
First change your mess ceremonial uniform of British Era and allow men and women to wear kurtha and saree or any other comfortable wear.. even British army stopped wearing such cerimonial wears. Second understand everyone is human, all those who works together in an organisation are subordinates all around the world so treat soldiers like that, then stop unwanted marching, salute etc officers are free but soldiers are living like Roborts,most of the officers even today thinks like they are brown Britishers... So stop servant system, Allow uniform based on their profession, a chef don't need combat uniform in kitchen nor a barbor ,
@@Jat6803 for what it is really easy to change in civil services rather than defence services In kerala their is no helper or servant for civil services officers from their organisation or department if they need they should arrange from public by giving money from their pocket
@@supporter5888 I'm not talking about about any particular state but in general civil servants always get helper , and yes don't teach us what is or not We know very well that civil servants (Babus) always want to degrade military officers because they jealous by their loyalty towards the country , their personality, their attitude, and most important is love and support of people of the country to the military
Pakistan and indian armed forces adopted massive traditions from british colonial army. Most affected are ground forces . Nice initiative by indian armed forces , Pakistan army should learn from india armed forces and gt rid of these colonial traditions . Pak airforce and navy almost abandoned these colonial traditions and rules but pak army is still following almost 95% of colonial british army rules and traditions.
Sb kuch Badal do..agniveer lao...4 saal tak ka soldier...ye agniveer Acha Hai to hr government job me kro..sirf defense me hi q..lgta Hai government ke pas soldier ko pension Dene ke liye paise nhi Hai..
Then you give up everything inherited from British . Ban English medicine system and practice your own ayurvedam . Stop flying in Aeroplanes and travel only in bullock carts . So on so forth . Meaningless and ridiculous . What 2014 ? Bhakt spotted.
Right. Previous congress regime was just an extension of British rule. It was power transfer from Britain to congress. Not eradication of British rule.
Govt should focus on technological advancement in gears & equipments rather than touching on rich traditions of army. Indian army has rich heritage and legacy which is well celebrated. Doing away with institution like offrs mess and various ceremony is just another chopping done by bureaucracy to belittle army . People who have no idea about forces and it's traditions should not intervene in these very professional organisations.
You're right, this govt just wants some changed that's achieved in its name and they're simply resorting to changing traditions and names to divert people's attention from real issues or else, people will demand for some real needed changes like transparency in defence finance, defence technological improvement, removal of red tapes from army (could jeopardize the hold of political party on army functioning if successful). So, it's just showing off by changing these mere metaphorical things.
@@realnapster1522 you mean we should just throw away our 200 year old glorious past with numerous battle honors and traditions to our history and become a identity less organisation ? We should start with replacing olive greens with dhotis and Chaddis
Bhai sahab sabkuch to theek hai but jo buddy system hai that is the main colonial practice the indian army is doing to uske bareme kon baat karega...? Sirf officer level ki changes karne se koi bada farak nhi padnewala indian army ke andar. .
Jo review committee me hai hum hum sab se jayada gyani hai.... So comment box me jayada gyaan na de....padhae pe dhayan lagaye sayad aap bhi review committee me pahuch jaye
Not traditions are abandoned, practically. Recently Chief of Army Staff went to sandthrust academy to review the parade (a British tradition) wore the lanyard. Stop listening to this propoganda video and study for your examinations and interview. Military traditions across the globe are same.
Dhoti pahan ke haath se khana mut shuru karwa dena bhai, waise hi aaj kal ke Officers thik se uniform nahi pahante, na thik se bol pate. Standard waise hi bahut down hain. Wo purani angreji baat to pahele hi khatam ho chuki hai.
Even regiment ke naam bhi badal dene chaiye and class composition ka stupid so called marshal non marshal race bhi band kar dena chaiye because it's a coloniel tradition.
@@uditraj8290 bhai nahi chalta but abhi bhi rajput sikh regiment q he phir or us regiment me bhi 60 to 70 wo he community li jati he us wajah se har community ko properly representation nahi milta he ye bhi khatam hone cahaiye phir
Colonial rule... Ke time ka Buddy system kab hatega Modi ji ye bhi bta do ... Or jco rank bhi gulami ke time ka hai ise bhi kab hatoge... Ek jawan bharti hota hai Desh seva ke liye or Army usse officer seva krwane lg jati hai
The maker of the video has confused traditions and practices for embibing strategic thinking. Thr uniform worn before 1 August has nothing to do with pre colonial times. They were changed post 80's and the 90's
This will make Army like a corporate job, these traditions make army majestic, our kings also use to practice many traditions like this, these are the part of our history and culture now and if talking about removing colonial things then Burocracy and judiciary need these changes first because they directly deal with common people unlike army... I think army is being targeted by some jealous politician and Burocrates
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Indian policing system should also change
True....Both Police and the legal system both should change
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It's on the way first laws then hole police force new cameras new equipment
@@nature.951education, common sense and self awareness is must too. We can be the best
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The biggest colonial institutions in Bharat r judiciary & police.
Sab kuch hatega .
@@theindicwagnerIndia mein judges sabse jyada corrupt hai aur judges tanashahi krte hain 😢
@@Kshatriya288 Supreme court sirf 193 days khula rehta hai. Iska matlab aadhe saal holiday manate hai. Aur desh mein 3.3 crore cases pending hai.
Aur politicians 😂😂😂
baniye bakchodi mat kr gallee pr beth bss
Me isi ke baare me soach raha tha 'Change Them'
Vande Mataram 🇮🇳
To become a world power.
You should be having your own traditions and your own Rules.
Values from Vedas and ancient literature 👍
On our way, the former elite identified themselves more with the rulers of the past, Jai Hind.
Stupid proposition, the Japanese have never been colonised , yet they copied the British army and it's structure after the Meiji restoration in 1868
@@Rudraksh-ql4ce go and watch Japanese military videos they eat with their hands and chopsticks not spoons in their messes
@@TanmayRawat-g8h even indian soldiers eat with their hands , in officer mess daal roti is eaten with hand. So what's your point ?
Japanese army is still organised on the basis of the British army. The British army was the best army in the world in discipline and training, they passed on their organisational culture to india , japan , canada, Australia, USA, New Zealand ,Sweden , Malaysia , Singapore. Indian Army would have never been a proper fighting force had it not been for British training and discipline.
My question to Chief and others: "Is this the most important thing to do right now? We have security challenges, modernization and a hundred other important things to deal with so why waste time and energy fixing a wheel that already works?
Is the army a toy for bureaucrats and politicians to play around with? I think it is high time that the chief either resigns or buys himself a working spine. A commander like Field Marshal Sam would have said to their face that he would like to command his army in his own way and that he accepts no interference.
Spot on , the top brass has lost their minds, they just want promotions and a way to redeem themselves to the government
Very nice step from our Bharat Sarkar 🙏🏻
Jai Hind 🙏🏻
Fly pass and mess traditions should not be taken away i agree with other decisions but the two that i mentioned is very integrated in yhe army,airforce and navy.
Totally agree
Mess just increase the segeration between Officers and Soldiers, I know why you want to keep it.
@@SachinGurjar077 because you think that I like segregation? No I said mess traditions not who gets to use a mess and guess what there is a diffrence between an officer and an OR but its not that they are inferior and JCOs and ORs have themselves a mess and I have had food in it and it's the same as officers mess and I know why you are saying such a thing because you want to trigger me like how Rahul ghandi tried to trigger the soldiers
@@SachinGurjar077 btw an officer is a soldier only he just has higher academic compliments like passing the competitive exam to become an officer.
@@yashvardhansingh1083 Same Food??, In which delusionary world are you living, the Officers Mess is far better than the Soldier and JCO mess, that's why Officers want to continue this segeration, otherwise why they have problem with the same mess, and I also said about Mess Traditions that includes Mess System, this Mess system itself was develop to do segeration in colonial era, The difference in Treatment and Food in Officer's Mess and Soldiers Mess is like of day and night so don't lie to others, many have acknowledged it that Officers get far better treatment than soldiers in Army.
Lot of officer's think only they run the ARMED FORCES
But it's a truth without a hardwork of jawan no forces can sustain.
Practice which working demoralise jawan
In every 10 to 15 min function a jawan stand 3 to 4 hour before the time .
Give much importance to officers as they are god !
Everyone is important
@@LearnAsMuchYouCan why not everyone get same respect in forces
@@kumoun_warrior well idk, but i probably think all are respected equally in the armed forces
That's true
@@LearnAsMuchYouCan join forces then you will get answers
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WE NEED " SPACE FORCE " AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
There is no space, then how can there be a space force?
Traditions are important. It promotes self esteem and pride in the uniform.
You can have pride with Bhartiya traditions also. Stop being a Colonial Boot 👢 licker.
Not colonial traditions. They should transform military to modern one.
This is called decolonisation n not tradition
What all will you de-colonise. The entire structure from the first rank to the highest has foreign roots. Do you not eat mughlai food, or do you discard it because it has foreign roots. Do we not wear pants, tie, and shave.
@@realnapster1522traditions are just practices to keep up the morale. Nothing to do with professional performance or equipment.
Before being declared an Anglophile am seriously concerned about the tradition being dumped from Indian Armed Forces. The concern is the efficiency and traditional understanding of the operational and existence of the Indian Armed Forces.....
It’s good to dump old ways.
We don’t need British system to run the country. They left in 1947.
Jai hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳
British ka end kabhi nahi hoga jbb takk English hn
Army is full of elite mindset
Dur sab acha dikhta hai
First they need to abolish the ball system in IMA or NDA
Who the hell is asking or inviting you to the ball ….just shut up and keep out of yhis
?? Kya he woh
Is there any other Indian alternative to it? If no, then no need.
Then abolish all the discos Hindi movies and dances too
Pagla gaye ho ka 😠
If you want decolonize the army start with removing Batman/sahayak culture.
It should be our Nation our Armed Forces our traditions 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
जय हिन्द ❤
Why not blend colonial and indian practices? Will it not a give an unique outlook.
We are independent now no need to blend
No need to blend, most of the regiments of the Indian Army date back to 100s of years before independence, they have their own culture and battle honours from major international conflicts in the past thus we must embrace the true Indo-British traditions which built the regiment. Most of these traditions were first performed in India, they should be Indian traditions followed by the colonial commonwealth rather than the other way around.
@@GodslayerAR yeah just forget their 200 hundered year old history and make these units loose their identities
Good decision 👏
BHARAT MATA AND MAHATMA MODIJI KI JAI👍❤️🙏❤️👍
What about jco direct entry proposal sir?
Changes are necessary according to time we should move forward nor backward by following ancient Indian systems
If you think that our Indian ancient cultures and traditions are backward, then you should get yourself educated a bit (not only formal education should be considered). Abd read some real books and real texts about India's history, you will get to know the success of our kingdoms and achievements in maths and science at that time. We will only grow more and more by following those practices.
'Think before you speak.'
@@PrajwalNayak-so5uv 😆😆😆 are you living in 21St century don't you know how people in other countries talks about us... actually India don't have any culture bcoz India is formed only after Britishers comes to India and the land is completely diverse with entirely different cultures that means we can't follow a common ritual as culture
@@supporter5888 You only keep thinking about what others think of us, you never think of yourself and never grow
@@supporter5888 If you think Bharat has no culture, then definitely you should do a PROPER India tour, in which there are temples, isha foundation's places, and many more countless places
@@supporter5888 India was there before britain was formed😒
Good step taken by Bharat Govt.
Stupid steps, instead of focusing on real issues , we're wasting our time and energy on these nonsensical things
All ranks ke liye same mess , buddy system, ड्रिल , बहूत सारी चीजों के बदलने की जरूरत है
Salute is also a colonial tradition.😁
It will never be removed in our armed forces as people in top officials use to enjoy these soo called traditional practices.
Remember there are loop holes in every system
Watch your tone. You are criticizing the people who are ready to make the supreme sacrifice for the country. I agree that these practices should be removed from the country but I would not dare to lecture or criticise our army leaders.
Let them check and decide what needs to be done in these matters.
@@elixir662 Don't go so overboard with this. We have a voluntary defence service and they are paid well just like all other govt officials. They are not above criticism and certainly not above people. Many inhuman practices exist to a degree which general public is not aware of. There is absolutely no point is using regular soldiers as sahayaks for high ranking officials especially in peace locations. Lots of things need to be changed to make our forces absolutely mean and strong rather than big and bulky.
@@anandhujayan6269 I think for you it is as simple as a monetary transaction for services rendered. For most Indians, these men and women represent the highest ideals of courage and service for the country. They do their job in protecting our country and they do it very well. In return we can stay the fuck out of their way in running their organisation, whose inner workings we are blissfully ignorant of.
People like you are basing your judgement on what is right or wrong for the military on what grounds exactly? What works in a civilian context or a corporate environment need not necessarily translate into something similar in a military situation. It's an entirely different organisation with a unqiue ideology, goals and expectations.
Hence I will ask again for people like you to stop critiquing the army in such a callous fashion as if you were lecturing your local 2 paise politician.
@@elixir662 when the army is above criticism military states like pakistan happen.
You have to understand here that a very miniscule percent of the entire defence service actually are in it for patriotism. We are a poor country its a source of employment for majority of them. Just like every other human organisation there is corruption, boot licking, injustice, discrimination in the defence forces too. now this is a controversial opinion, I am not disrespecting or taking anything away from the forces. They did a reasonably good job since 1947 in protecting the country. But sorry they are not above criticism and it is poor tax payers like me who fund this so I will have my say.
@neeraj Very true words @elixir in the name of Supreme sacrifice you can't practice such colonial mindset ...watch your tone Mr. .... There are subordinates and other ranks who have given their Supreme sacrifice far more than Officers ....
Indian culture in union terms is just UP -bihar hindi belt culture nothing beyond it.
Absolutely
Right about time, what about the British era firearms law in India?
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British tradition me buddy system/sahayak pratha kab khatam hogi pata nhi justice for Soldier Amit Choudhary , 17 JAK LI , Abhi tak aapne uski ek bhi video nahi banai
Indian judiciary system must be changed
I don't think changes are necessary to every field. Each officer is proud of his own regiment so making same uniform, i don't think that's good.
Nd aj kal koi kuch bol v nhi sktaa sabko apni padi hai
Fauj k baare me koi nhi sochta.
If u wanna experiment go somewhere else not in fauj
Common uniforms aren't for everyone. It's only for those holding ranks of brigadier and above. Watch this to know why ruclips.net/video/0t2d6MqRDjY/видео.html
Still want to live in Colonial Era Rules??
why not have you seen the Uniform of Nazis that bought pride to their nazi army in 2nd world war these are designed by hugo boss .First of all Nazis are not enemies of India . It was against british ,we had no conflict but we hate saying nazis .this is called post colonial disorder . Europe problems are not our problems like jay sharkar ji said. First of Indian army should replace their uniforms even our police force should get updated uniforms with their own unique style.
Keep some colonial tradition like the horse walk, marches which shows the standard of our army
Rather create our own traditions that can better display our standards.
@@AjayRaoakaAj right we should
50 saal pehle ye badlav kar dena chahiye
Jai hind 🇮🇳
Vajpayee removed the british george cross in 2001, but our economist pm under congress brought back in that colonial cross. No wonder why congress is a british creation & people call them chamchas & gulam.
So a Para or Gurkha officer will be forced to give up his beret or slouch hat if he makes General grade?
Tampering the militry system , india will end up in dothi ,bow and arrows!
Jai Hind Jai Hind Jai Hind 🇮🇳🙏☺️
We should also dissolve all caste and religion based regiments - let infantry regiments be there for all states with 50% of the men from the state and balance being selected on pan India basis
This will reignite martial values from all States
They have been doing pan India recruitment since the 80s. What you mentioned has already been done long ago
@@Rudraksh-ql4ce Most of the current infantry regiment’s recruitment is not pan India but from few specific states (Grenadiers being the only exception) - further there is no need to preserve the colonial regiments specially the ones named after caste or religions like Jats / Mahars / Sikhs / Rajputs
Kaash koi Aisehi change Civil Services keliye v kare. Obaha sebhi colonial tradition khatam honi Chahiye.. Obaha bhi bhare pade hai aise tradition 🙏
Traditional Indian uniforms inspired from historical uniforms would be absolutely dope! This standard military caps are so boring and useless and mostly remind me of some wacky dictatorship. Make traditional helmets and turbans the norm.
The Police and Judiciary are colonial. We need our old Panchayat and Police should report to Panchayat.
But I don't think that horse cavalry was British. In ancient India our kings used horses and cavalry and it was a integral part army back than .
There's difference in our and theirs cavalry
@@GodslayerAR may be but it looks kind of impressive
@@GodslayerARthe horse cavalry used today in India formed by the Jaipur royal family, Hyderabad nizam and Mysore royal family. Their uniforms are designed by Indian royals . The only horse regiment which was made by British is the presidents bodyguard. Tall guys with red uniform, blue pagdi and a staff in hands
@@GodslayerARyou have modernise the uniforms with time . We can't go back and give them ceremonial uniforms like the rajputs or Marathas used to wear . No . We should follow china or Japan system in this case . They have only 3 uniforms . White 2 piece suit , black tie , white hat , black boots for navy . Green 2 piece suit olive tie , black hat , black boot for army . Blue 2 peice suit , tie , blue hat and boots for airforce. That's it . For Sikhs there should be an exception of pagdi . Regiment based uniforms should be removed.
@@jyotiradityachoudhury7987 any logical reason behind it? You think traditional dress makes one less of a soldier? Look at afghanis wearing kurta they fought murican army in cobat dress and won against them it just your mind that accepted british clothes as only option for army dress
One question please make a video on topic. Can a IPS officer take tranning from para sf and earn para batches ???
IPS is more powerful than Army Officer..He achieve higher rank within short period..but army officer can't make it even in his entire service.
We should maintain Centuries old history of our armed forces.... and in the name of introducing Indian culture..... don't mess up Military discipline and Regimental history and glory.
Biritish rule is not our century old history thats just 150 years real century old history is what we were before those mf foreign attackers
@@GodslayerARthat doesn't mean in a mess instead of a proper clean suit you will introduce a dhoti kurta with a weird looking half jacket . If you are removing old uniforms then bring good designed uniforms instead of dhoti kurta and politician type look
@@GodslayerAR buddy before british... which one you thinks represented Indian Army... Martahas..?? Mughals ?? Semi autonomous rajputs..?? these vassals like of deccan .. of bengal..?? Sikhs?? Jats ?? Gurkhas of Nepal ?? .... orr Afghans under rohillas..nawab or abdali....?? and you cannot take them combined as each and everyone of them was enemy with one other.... were driven by self intrest.
@@SangwanJat vikramaditya's army chandra gupt maurya's army
@@SangwanJatWe independent Bhartiyas represent Indian Army, not some colonial slaves.
Colonial Practices should end immediately, it's too Indian Army should look like it's name.
Bhai tu ye bta ki ... Buddy system kab khatam hoga
Tu buddy hai kya kisi ka , tujhey kya lena dena , without complete knowledge please don’t talk nonsense , buddy system is an operational requirement
Jab tu SSB pass hoga tab
Why ? In 2004 George cross is reintroduced
ये परंपरा कभी खत्म नहीं होनी चाहिए. Ye colonial tradition नहीं है. History में 1200 साल पहले ही ऐसी परम्परा थी.
Saheb, shabd hi kaafi hai 😊
Sab hata do passing out parade ki jagah Puja patt kra lo kitna royal lagta tha yaar
Bhai uelog Warrior bnane wale hote naki Priest, pandit, Maulana etc😂😂😂
Wtf!!
Sahdu nhi bnna unhe
Kya Dikkat hai Pooja Paath mai, apne Culture ko hi to follow kar rahe hai, kam se kam teri tarah Angrezon ke to Gulaam nahi hai.
@@SachinGurjar077 what culture buddy
Why u wear pant shirt shoes
is it in ur culture?
@@SachinGurjar077 Grow Up ..!!
My boii it's all about politics..
Jai hind sir
5:25 best….
The creator knows very little of the phyce of the Indian Soldier and what makes him a formidable warrior.
It is pride and commitment to his partan.
He fights and dies for "Naam Namak or Nishan".
Don't tarnish aby thing.some don't understand as "colonial!.
Let the Army wear dhotis and kurta pajama and go to war !
Then why let them wear peaked caps and berets and tie and then go to war 😂
Tell me where soldiers and officers find spoon and fork table chair to eat during war
All The Colonial Practices should not be banned in the Indian Armed Forces partly due to the fact that these are the practices that make the Indian Armed Forces Royal which every soldier craves for....In India , unless u are a an Army Soldier or a Billionaire, you can not live like a KING.....If the govt. Wants to experiment so much, it should go and experiment somewhere other than Fauj.....
From a Retired Officers Desk
Government and bureaucrats want to degrade the armed Forces and there is not target to decolonization only and only is bureaucrats want to be superior 😢
First of all , thank you for your service but frankly speaking , we are the taxpaying citizen on whom you all living your "royal life" , secondly Decolonisation is a New World Order , where every country who have been oppressed by Britishers have decided to oust those practices so that they can reconcile with their own cultural roots.
Bharatiya culture is Royal enough to make our Army *Shahi* . They will love it and secondly, you are from an Officer's Desk , I expected that you will support it. Thank God , Officers like you are not in majority, otherwise people like you would have launched a Coup against our Govt by now.🙏
Soldiers are not taken into defence forces for living like a king they are there to protect our borders and country from Enemy. So, with all due respect for your service to our country I disagree with your thoughts.
My Fellow mates
I also pay taxes and used to pay taxes when I was serving too.......and maybe I am wrong too, I understand because I am a soldier of the olden times where I have only seen the Royal outlook......But, still changes to bring Kurta pajama in messes cannot still be digested by the officers as the govt shd then make it mandatory all over India too........
I am concerned because in messes, or else skme officers will start coming in Chappals whereas the mess is the most Formal Place in a unit....
@Aditya-rw2ly My friend....soldiers and officers are not taken, they volunteer, clear NDA, SSB, and then serve for their country.....
It is not the theka of the Defence Forces only to serve the country and protect the borders.....
You shd yourself join the ARMY, you will get to know....
Democracy is colonial? Judiciary is colonial? Administration is colonial? Education system is colonial? Even national anthem is colonial.. Educate yourself about history and move ON!!!
The modern parliamentary system with its democratic principles was introduced by the British.
The modern Indian judicial system is based on the British legal system. IPC was introduced in 1860
The Indian Civil Services (ICS), which was the predecessor of the current Indian Administrative Service (IAS), was set up by the British.
The British introduced the modern education system in India, replacing traditional system and primarily aimed at producing clerks and administrators to help run the British Empire.
National Anthem was made by Indians without any British involvement.
If India that is Bharat want to remove all British traditions first destroy Sengol
Few days ago in our new parliament building Sengol
Acha hai
First change your mess ceremonial uniform of British Era and allow men and women to wear kurtha and saree or any other comfortable wear.. even British army stopped wearing such cerimonial wears.
Second understand everyone is human, all those who works together in an organisation are subordinates all around the world so treat soldiers like that, then stop unwanted marching, salute etc officers are free but soldiers are living like Roborts,most of the officers even today thinks like they are brown Britishers...
So stop servant system,
Allow uniform based on their profession, a chef don't need combat uniform in kitchen nor a barbor ,
right👍
Pehle ye Sb civil service me lagu kr fir military ki bat krna
@@Jat6803 for what it is really easy to change in civil services rather than defence services
In kerala their is no helper or servant for civil services officers from their organisation or department if they need they should arrange from public by giving money from their pocket
@@Jat6803 in defence services all these needed to be changes before 50 years ago
@@supporter5888 I'm not talking about about any particular state but in general civil servants always get helper , and yes don't teach us what is or not
We know very well that civil servants (Babus) always want to degrade military officers because they jealous by their loyalty towards the country , their personality, their attitude, and most important is love and support of people of the country to the military
Remove the beret and the peak cap which all came from British coloniasm. No worries, ask Rishi Sunak. I love India.
Horse carts were ECO friendly.
Rank kab change hogi
Pakistan Should also stop British traditions like Buggies Monkey jacket dinners 23 March parade and different uniforms etc
Pakistan and indian armed forces adopted massive traditions from british colonial army. Most affected are ground forces . Nice initiative by indian armed forces , Pakistan army should learn from india armed forces and gt rid of these colonial traditions . Pak airforce and navy almost abandoned these colonial traditions and rules but pak army is still following almost 95% of colonial british army rules and traditions.
Boys will be boys.
Colonial practices must be removed from our forces , I wonder it took hundreds of years to understand this.
Sb kuch Badal do..agniveer lao...4 saal tak ka soldier...ye agniveer Acha Hai to hr government job me kro..sirf defense me hi q..lgta Hai government ke pas soldier ko pension Dene ke liye paise nhi Hai..
Some of the So called british traditions were pre british era like using horeses and all.. Hope Govt will remove those
Even officer wife treat himself as first lady of a batallion that is disgusting
This suppose to be done in 1947. This proves that India got complete independence in 2014 😮
Pakka tu whi hai 😂
@@user-jl7vt7im2l tera baap?
@@user-jl7vt7im2l bhagwa e pak banayege dekta re..
Then you give up everything inherited from British . Ban English medicine system and practice your own ayurvedam . Stop flying in Aeroplanes and travel only in bullock carts . So on so forth . Meaningless and ridiculous . What 2014 ? Bhakt spotted.
Right. Previous congress regime was just an extension of British rule. It was power transfer from Britain to congress. Not eradication of British rule.
This is true democratic move.🙏
If field marhsall manekshaw had been here, he would have been disappointed with the way the government is doing these things.
आर्मी एक्ट 1921 को भी बदल दो
Bilkul sir...
Hme apne Bharat ke purane yhdh kapdo ko jyada bhav dena chahiye...
Jaisa ki hmare Defence minister Shree Raj Nath Ji krte hain
Govt should focus on technological advancement in gears & equipments rather than touching on rich traditions of army. Indian army has rich heritage and legacy which is well celebrated. Doing away with institution like offrs mess and various ceremony is just another chopping done by bureaucracy to belittle army . People who have no idea about forces and it's traditions should not intervene in these very professional organisations.
You're right, this govt just wants some changed that's achieved in its name and they're simply resorting to changing traditions and names to divert people's attention from real issues or else, people will demand for some real needed changes like transparency in defence finance, defence technological improvement, removal of red tapes from army (could jeopardize the hold of political party on army functioning if successful). So, it's just showing off by changing these mere metaphorical things.
No it’s necessary. It’s stupid to have British traditions when they left in 1947.
exactly...All these things are stupid and unnecessary
@@realnapster1522 you mean we should just throw away our 200 year old glorious past with numerous battle honors and traditions to our history and become a identity less organisation ? We should start with replacing olive greens with dhotis and Chaddis
Aab kya karna army mei ja ke.
Bhai sahab sabkuch to theek hai but jo buddy system hai that is the main colonial practice the indian army is doing to uske bareme kon baat karega...?
Sirf officer level ki changes karne se koi bada farak nhi padnewala indian army ke andar. .
Lekin iski suruat IPS , IAS , Indian Railway Services , State Police services , politicians se honi chaiye
Sab badlenge acchi baat hai, lekin warfare tactics badlenge kya
Are you a military tactician expert ? Keep your nonsense to yourself please
CDS should never been a Rtd man.
Serving n senior most of 3 chief
Best for Nation. Rest is time pass.
india need to removed corrupt politician like modi
Good Riddance !
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We all know who brought red Cross back in 2004 🤢🤢🤢
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Even indian army ka class composion and regiment ke naam bhi badal dena cahaiye because wo bhi coloniel system ka hissa he.
Sirf Armed Forces hi kyu?? Baki jagah ka kya?
@@uditraj8290 baki konsi cheese colonial he ye batao baat yaha army ki ho rahe he
Not traditions are abandoned, practically. Recently Chief of Army Staff went to sandthrust academy to review the parade (a British tradition) wore the lanyard.
Stop listening to this propoganda video and study for your examinations and interview.
Military traditions across the globe are same.
Dhoti pahan ke haath se khana mut shuru karwa dena bhai, waise hi aaj kal ke Officers thik se uniform nahi pahante, na thik se bol pate. Standard waise hi bahut down hain. Wo purani angreji baat to pahele hi khatam ho chuki hai.
Ha ab dhoti aur lungi me ladenge hum 😂😂..kuch bhi
Combat dress jo war me hogi wo same rahegi baki ceremonials and peace time me hi apply kar sekta hai
Britiish kuchh nahiin hota, vertes bartaaniya
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First stop your stupid servant system in army
It's correct madam
So u don’t have domestic help at home ? Should that also be stopped ?
Police ko desi banao ya angreji, koi farak thodi pad jayega. Police ka kuch karo. Dukhi hain log.
British tradition ke anusaar ball party bhi band honi chahiye
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@@kumarvarun334 aur sahayak pratha
Even regiment ke naam bhi badal dene chaiye and class composition ka stupid so called marshal non marshal race bhi band kar dena chaiye because it's a coloniel tradition.
@@junedshaikh9165Marshal race kaha chlta bhai ab???
@@uditraj8290 bhai nahi chalta but abhi bhi rajput sikh regiment q he phir or us regiment me bhi 60 to 70 wo he community li jati he us wajah se har community ko properly representation nahi milta he ye bhi khatam hone cahaiye phir
In the name of colonial period BJP gvt. Is hunting evey Christian connectivity in the defence administratn
These are remnant of colonial period, If You have that much love for Christianity then keep it to yourself, don't spread it here.
Colonial rule... Ke time ka Buddy system kab hatega Modi ji ye bhi bta do ... Or jco rank bhi gulami ke time ka hai ise bhi kab hatoge...
Ek jawan bharti hota hai Desh seva ke liye or Army usse officer seva krwane lg jati hai
The maker of the video has confused traditions and practices for embibing strategic thinking. Thr uniform worn before 1 August has nothing to do with pre colonial times. They were changed post 80's and the 90's
This will make Army like a corporate job, these traditions make army majestic, our kings also use to practice many traditions like this, these are the part of our history and culture now and if talking about removing colonial things then Burocracy and judiciary need these changes first because they directly deal with common people unlike army... I think army is being targeted by some jealous politician and Burocrates