Yes, the weight for the v4 is 5.4g, the v3 is 5.5g. But i've never broken a v3 frame. I bought a Moblite7 when they came out, flew it for review and loved it. But the frame didn't hold up long with my indoor abuse. I swapped to the v4 and had better luck, but still broke at the duct supports after a few good hardwood crashes. The v3 I haven't been able to break yet.
I started off with a Mobula7 on 2s as my first whoop and loved it. I switched to 1s and just found it more convenient for me. Charge 10x 1s batts and get 5 flights on 2s or 10 flights on 1s. Also, i found the crashes less catastrophic on 1s 😂
Thanks for putting this video together I’ve always been curious about what you fly. I loved your showing the technique of popping the motors through the frame. I just got the moblite 7 and was wondering about how that would work.
That's a beast and snappy :D also have the moblite7 w caddx ant lite, but planning to do some similar upgrades specially w elrs since the spi receiver kinda sucks haha
Damn I wish I thought of that way when I built up my whoop using the v3 frame. I just chopped the bottom of the tray and tied a thick asparagus rubber band through holes in the frame. It's not super secure lmao. I gotta fix it eventually but I'm too busy flying it!
If you are doing a build similar to this one, the Diamond comes with a pretty clean tune out of the box. As for rates, I use the Betaflight default rates haha never changed them and got used to it.
Super well thought out build! Everything is so neat and secure. I have been considering elrs for my moblite6, but I’m concerned about the thermals with it right up on the fc. Does the ep2 itself heat up much with that heat shrink on?
Not enough for me to notice. I fly the ep2 on everything for the past several months. Whoops, cinewhoops, toothpicks, 5inch. Some I only fly indoors, i would expect those to get the hottest, but so far no issues! Amazing little piece of tech.
@@InfinityLoops I always though the Crossfire nano was light at only .7 grams, but this is .44g and the biggest benefit is you have the antenna built in and it's .44g - the Crossfire antenna, even the tiny one, is gonna add at least a gram and then you have to find a place for it - and on whoops, that's a true dilemma!!! :)
I have a very similar build. I put 1.25mm jst plugs off the Diamond f4 so motor change out is quicker. I also didn’t realize you could squeeze those motors through. I also put an on/off switch on the 5v wire of my rx. That way you can update the firmware. Those boards won’t go into dfu with an rx soldered on. I fly the happymodel 25000kv on tri blade gem fans and it’s great. How did you get to your USB port so easily?.. mine is so tight, I clipped a piece to have better access… Great video!
The build sounds slick. Lots of QoL mods, well done! I think I only get to the USB easily because I've done it 1000 times. I don't remove any part from the frame, just kinda push it out of the way 😆
Thanks bro! I fly 450mah batts on this build. Indoors I can freestyle for 4 minutes with good power. Outdoors with some elements 3-3:30 minutes. Hovering while fighting the wind I got like 6 minutes on it while watching Multi try to save his whoop from a roof 🤣
Hey great flying!!! I notice you always get insane flight times for how hard you are ripping (I’m used to 2 1/2- 3 and that’s being the battery low). Are you using 450s or 650s??? I ordered 650 since that’s what the moblite 7 comes with.
Hey Patrick, I fly 450mah packs for freestyle. 650 felt too clunky for me. Lately I have been obsessed with the HGLRC Zeus 450mah packs. Only issue is getting them into the Mobula7 v4 frame is a bit tight.
@@InfinityLoops Hey Man thank you for the response. i agree the 650s are a bit chonky. honestly 300s are really fun. quick question for you. on the Diamond f4 controller, i lost the copper VTX wire. has that happened to you and if so what do you replace it with? video still works but im worried about shorting the board and its definitely not as strong of a signal! Thanks again brotha
I'm not sure if you've tried the Happymodel V4 frame, but it's actually really solid. It was the one you discarded from the BNF. I know the V3 frame kinda it originally came with sucked, but the V4 seems bulletproof to me. I don't freestyle as hard as you, but I've crashed it pretty hard doing indoor racing and you wouldn't know it. I had a Mob6 FC with the EP2 tucked underneath like yours, no extra grommets needed. And the battery bay is designed for 1S, so no rubber band needed.
Yo dubz, i tried the v4 when it came out. I broke one at the duct to motor support and went back to my v3 😂 You're not the first to tell me to try it though, maybe I'll have to give it another chance. I have a few laying around
@@InfinityLoops You're probably next-level brutal to them with all that crazy freestyle you do. Of course, that's how this hobby is too. One person swears by a product and another has nothing but bad times with it.
Ok, so far I've flown 12 packs on that v4 and it's holding up. I ended up doing the rubberband thing on the battery anyways because it kept sliding around haha. But it does fits better!
It is on the top of the board. Opposite side of the usb and motor pads. It is a small copper antenna. Pause around 4:12 you can see it laying across the top of the board.
Doesnt look like you ve got that high rates ? What is ur actual rates ? Nice flying ! Just got me mobula 8 and mobula6 and havent been flying so much as now. I've flown 50 packs in 3 days and that more than 3months of 5" flying
I do prefer it over the goober canopy. Those smash pretty easily in my hands. The beebrain v2 rarely breaks on me though. Holding out on bt2.0 until it's time to toss all my ph2.0, one day.
@@InfinityLoops oh sorry I just didn't wait enough for youtube to load it. haha :) do you have any issue with the steadyview? I have lot of problems. mix mode does not work properly and flashing screen in diversity mode. I'm planning to print an adaptor to use it with rapidfire or fusion.
So far I've only had issues with certain setups and the Steadyview module. It seems to not work well with specific equipment. I tried the Fyujon from Happymodel and had the worst image flashing. So frustrating
I'm curious to why you would use the dimon f4 with the EP2 over the Elrs 1s AIO ( mine just arrived and I wanted to be aware of anything I should particularly watch out for)
Nothing to look out for on the ELRS AIO, you're good! I run the Diamond+EP2 for 3 reasons: 1) DiamondF4+EP2 is actually lighter than using the ELRS AIO 2) I prefer solder pads on the Diamond, over motor plugs on the AIO 3) I already have heaps of EP2s laying around, gotta use 'em 😂
I’ve been really curious about making the switch to ELRS… I think it would make sense on all my whoops/micros, they’re all FRSKY. I guess the biggest deciding factor for me is the way it feels. Do you feel like the quad responds quicker/feels better on ELRS? Or is the main advantage the range? I fly crossfire on my larger setups, comparable feeling?
I only fly ELRS now on everything. The control does feel better, more responsive especially with proximity flying. It's a noticeable difference for me.
Hey, why don’t you check out the hglrc petrel 120x it’s supposed to be one hell of a 3” ripper (I know you prefer 75mm frame but you gotta check this one out)
Had a tune. This is a bit outdated. Check out the "Mobthicc V3" video. On much better firmware with a cleaner tune! And I got through the whole setup in that video.
No, I had to use the BetaFPV 75x V2 frame which can house the 4 hole motors I'm using. 3 hole 110x motors do exist though. Pretty sure betaFPV makes/made some.
Why changing the frame? Isn't the v4 lighter??
Yes, the weight for the v4 is 5.4g,
the v3 is 5.5g.
But i've never broken a v3 frame.
I bought a Moblite7 when they came out, flew it for review and loved it. But the frame didn't hold up long with my indoor abuse. I swapped to the v4 and had better luck, but still broke at the duct supports after a few good hardwood crashes. The v3 I haven't been able to break yet.
Or try the mobula v2 frame weighs 4.2 grams. This is what I use, in black.
If I was going for lightweight, that would be a great option. But I'm going for durability and the v2 is very fragile.
@@InfinityLoops you prefer 1s over 2s. If so why?
I started off with a Mobula7 on 2s as my first whoop and loved it. I switched to 1s and just found it more convenient for me. Charge 10x 1s batts and get 5 flights on 2s or 10 flights on 1s. Also, i found the crashes less catastrophic on 1s 😂
These most recent videos are hysterical. A+ content gents. Keep it coming.
This is a great whoop build tutorial. Quick, straightforward delivery. Excellent work.
It's almost so simple it's more of a swap than a build. Piece of cake! :)
Never weigh, just fly. 💪👊
^This^ guy gets it.
Oh, but "It's all about weight with who0ps!" =(:^)-
The lighter it is the better it flies!!!
Gentlemen of good taste we meet again and my lady.
I love the fact you are using the Jumper t lite since that is my only radio.
i will show you my daily flighter.. and pops out a tinywhoop hhahahah i loved it hasushuhuas i have a baby nazgul, dont leave him for nothing hehehee
I just love build videos. Thank you very much.
Sick stix! Time to build one. Looks darn fun.
Awesome video, just ordered the frame...
Epic man!
Thank you for doing this! I already had the parts but haven't replaced the frame or hooked up elrs yet, so this answered a few questions.
Thanks again for helping me build one of these! Its absolutely awesome! Definitely my favorite whoop so far!
Anytime brother!
Thanks for putting this video together I’ve always been curious about what you fly. I loved your showing the technique of popping the motors through the frame. I just got the moblite 7 and was wondering about how that would work.
That's a beast and snappy :D also have the moblite7 w caddx ant lite, but planning to do some similar upgrades specially w elrs since the spi receiver kinda sucks haha
Damn I wish I thought of that way when I built up my whoop using the v3 frame. I just chopped the bottom of the tray and tied a thick asparagus rubber band through holes in the frame. It's not super secure lmao. I gotta fix it eventually but I'm too busy flying it!
Too busy flying is not a bad problem to have! Rip it up bro!
Thanks for the battery/rubber band idea, it works so well! Any suggestions for the tune/rates?
If you are doing a build similar to this one, the Diamond comes with a pretty clean tune out of the box. As for rates, I use the Betaflight default rates haha never changed them and got used to it.
@@InfinityLoops I actually have the exact build, but it feels loose compared to my mobula 6.
Really? Damn. Hmm i could give you my cli dump, but it is just the stock Diamondf4 cli.
@@InfinityLoops I think I can find it then, thanks!
Hope that helps man!
Super well thought out build! Everything is so neat and secure. I have been considering elrs for my moblite6, but I’m concerned about the thermals with it right up on the fc. Does the ep2 itself heat up much with that heat shrink on?
Not enough for me to notice. I fly the ep2 on everything for the past several months. Whoops, cinewhoops, toothpicks, 5inch. Some I only fly indoors, i would expect those to get the hottest, but so far no issues! Amazing little piece of tech.
@@InfinityLoops I always though the Crossfire nano was light at only .7 grams, but this is .44g and the biggest benefit is you have the antenna built in and it's .44g - the Crossfire antenna, even the tiny one, is gonna add at least a gram and then you have to find a place for it - and on whoops, that's a true dilemma!!! :)
I have a very similar build. I put 1.25mm jst plugs off the Diamond f4 so motor change out is quicker. I also didn’t realize you could squeeze those motors through. I also put an on/off switch on the 5v wire of my rx. That way you can update the firmware. Those boards won’t go into dfu with an rx soldered on.
I fly the happymodel 25000kv on tri blade gem fans and it’s great.
How did you get to your USB port so easily?.. mine is so tight, I clipped a piece to have better access…
Great video!
The build sounds slick. Lots of QoL mods, well done!
I think I only get to the USB easily because I've done it 1000 times. I don't remove any part from the frame, just kinda push it out of the way 😆
Great video, thanks! Will the pico razor fit easily into the beebrain canopy? Its backside looks bigger than the two other cams.
Good question, it does require some glue to stay in this mount.
Love the mod videos my man! What flight times usually look like? I know you freestyle hard but what’s your go to battery for most flight times?
Thanks bro! I fly 450mah batts on this build. Indoors I can freestyle for 4 minutes with good power. Outdoors with some elements 3-3:30 minutes. Hovering while fighting the wind I got like 6 minutes on it while watching Multi try to save his whoop from a roof 🤣
@@InfinityLoops love it man! Hopefully dronezone has another race coming up soon i would love to fly again🙏🏾💯
Hey great flying!!! I notice you always get insane flight times for how hard you are ripping (I’m used to 2 1/2- 3 and that’s being the battery low).
Are you using 450s or 650s??? I ordered 650 since that’s what the moblite 7 comes with.
Hey Patrick, I fly 450mah packs for freestyle. 650 felt too clunky for me. Lately I have been obsessed with the HGLRC Zeus 450mah packs. Only issue is getting them into the Mobula7 v4 frame is a bit tight.
@@InfinityLoops Hey Man thank you for the response. i agree the 650s are a bit chonky. honestly 300s are really fun. quick question for you. on the Diamond f4 controller, i lost the copper VTX wire. has that happened to you and if so what do you replace it with? video still works but im worried about shorting the board and its definitely not as strong of a signal!
Thanks again brotha
I've had them pop off in the past. I usually just solder it back on and keep it moving.
I'm not sure if you've tried the Happymodel V4 frame, but it's actually really solid. It was the one you discarded from the BNF. I know the V3 frame kinda it originally came with sucked, but the V4 seems bulletproof to me. I don't freestyle as hard as you, but I've crashed it pretty hard doing indoor racing and you wouldn't know it. I had a Mob6 FC with the EP2 tucked underneath like yours, no extra grommets needed. And the battery bay is designed for 1S, so no rubber band needed.
Yo dubz, i tried the v4 when it came out. I broke one at the duct to motor support and went back to my v3 😂 You're not the first to tell me to try it though, maybe I'll have to give it another chance. I have a few laying around
@@InfinityLoops You're probably next-level brutal to them with all that crazy freestyle you do. Of course, that's how this hobby is too. One person swears by a product and another has nothing but bad times with it.
I got some new motors to try out anyways. So I guess we'll see how this v4 holds up 😉
imgur.com/a/3p0n9EP
@@InfinityLoops Nice, can't wait to see how it flies!
Ok, so far I've flown 12 packs on that v4 and it's holding up. I ended up doing the rubberband thing on the battery anyways because it kept sliding around haha. But it does fits better!
Thanks for the video. How does this compare to a Mobula6 (19000kv) moved to a 75mm frame? Would that combination work for indoor freestyle?
The Mobula6 to 75mm frame/prop swap was a popular one when the mob6 came out. I would say it is still a viable indoor freestyle rig, for sure.
nice build... where is the vtx antenna on this FC??
It is on the top of the board. Opposite side of the usb and motor pads. It is a small copper antenna.
Pause around 4:12 you can see it laying across the top of the board.
Doesnt look like you ve got that high rates ? What is ur actual rates ? Nice flying ! Just got me mobula 8 and mobula6 and havent been flying so much as now. I've flown 50 packs in 3 days and that more than 3months of 5" flying
Hey there. I fly on Default Betaflight rates. 667 on all axis, no expo
Do you prefer this beebrain canopy to their other, more covered one for weight reasons? Also, why no bt2.0?
I do prefer it over the goober canopy. Those smash pretty easily in my hands. The beebrain v2 rarely breaks on me though. Holding out on bt2.0 until it's time to toss all my ph2.0, one day.
How do you like the NBD AZI 40mm tri blade props? I see these are prefered over the bi blade GF 40mm
I had Azi props on my 65mm, they were nice but bent really easily. I actually haven't tried the tri blades in 40mm yet. I'll give them a shot.
Nice! Do you have the 04X V1 goggles? did you know that you can buy the v2's DVR module separately? and then you could share 60fps rips to us :)
This is 60fps! I bought the dvr upgrade a few months back.
@@InfinityLoops oh sorry I just didn't wait enough for youtube to load it. haha :) do you have any issue with the steadyview? I have lot of problems. mix mode does not work properly and flashing screen in diversity mode. I'm planning to print an adaptor to use it with rapidfire or fusion.
So far I've only had issues with certain setups and the Steadyview module. It seems to not work well with specific equipment. I tried the Fyujon from Happymodel and had the worst image flashing. So frustrating
I'm curious to why you would use the dimon f4 with the EP2 over the Elrs 1s AIO ( mine just arrived and I wanted to be aware of anything I should particularly watch out for)
Nothing to look out for on the ELRS AIO, you're good!
I run the Diamond+EP2 for 3 reasons:
1) DiamondF4+EP2 is actually lighter than using the ELRS AIO
2) I prefer solder pads on the Diamond, over motor plugs on the AIO
3) I already have heaps of EP2s laying around, gotta use 'em 😂
@@InfinityLoops Thanks, I ordered 22000kv happymodel unibell motors, do you think they will compensate for the weight?
@@elishahodgson1635 Should be all good 👍
@@InfinityLoops My motto: "Use what ya got!" :)
I'm going to give this a try, thanks. Who won the radio?
You're welcome! If you mean the 2x $25 RDQ gift cards giveaway winners from the LiteRadio3 video, they were SCU-DUB and SGT Felix FPV.
@@InfinityLoops ya I meant that lol, kk
I’ve been really curious about making the switch to ELRS… I think it would make sense on all my whoops/micros, they’re all FRSKY.
I guess the biggest deciding factor for me is the way it feels. Do you feel like the quad responds quicker/feels better on ELRS? Or is the main advantage the range?
I fly crossfire on my larger setups, comparable feeling?
Crossfire is SLOWWWW compared to ELRS. 50hz is molasses after you've experienced 500hz.
I only fly ELRS now on everything. The control does feel better, more responsive especially with proximity flying. It's a noticeable difference for me.
@@InfinityLoops I have a QX7, which ELRS module for my radio do you use? Thanks! And, nice build video!!!
Are you flying on BF defaults?
PIDs are the DiamondF4 stock PIDs which are different from the BF default.
Rates are BF defaults.
Do you just use standard betaflight rates and pids?
Default Betaflight Rates and Happymodel Diamondf4 Stock PIDs 🤘
Hey, why don’t you check out the hglrc petrel 120x it’s supposed to be one hell of a 3” ripper (I know you prefer 75mm frame but you gotta check this one out)
2 things.
1) what size batteries should I run?
2) does it freestyle?
@@InfinityLoops there’s a 1/2s version a 3s version and a 4/6s( around 450/650mAh) version and yes it can freestyle
Which version should I try?
@@InfinityLoops The 4s since it’s the most popular one
At betaflight, PID is default or has a setup?
Had a tune. This is a bit outdated. Check out the "Mobthicc V3" video. On much better firmware with a cleaner tune! And I got through the whole setup in that video.
What motors do u recommend for a 2s 75mm whoop
I am currently using 1103 11000kv betaFPV motors on my 2s 75mm. I like them
@@InfinityLoops ok sweet but can that mount to the NewBeeDrone frame which use the 3 hole mount
No, I had to use the BetaFPV 75x V2 frame which can house the 4 hole motors I'm using. 3 hole 110x motors do exist though. Pretty sure betaFPV makes/made some.
@@InfinityLoops URUAV 1102-KV10000 are 3 hole, as per URUAV UZ85 kit
Also HGLRC, i just got some in to try.
0:07 was it MaiOnHigh? Maybe.
Or Roo?