@@takejisan808z Positioning parallel and forming triangles with the enemy and ur ADC is definitely not basic knowledge. That's high level stuff (which is why even some pros don't do this). No one in plat and under does this, which i can confirm. And rarely any diamond or higher does this on a consistent basis. If it was basic, there would be tons of guides that talk about this. As a high plat player, I learned a lot from it. I'm assuming you're either master or challenger if "a lot" of people in your games even knows this, let alone does it. P.S. No flame, but imo this isn't basic knowledge for a lot league players
@@MrChlwlstj Plat is where the players who fully utilize this start to pop up inconsistently and it becomes pretty consistent in diamond, so it's definitely not something you've not encountered before as such. But the impressive thing is I doubt that the majority of diamond players would be able to actually describe to you what's going on, they would just say "my support is afk laning" or something, even though the support who isn't doing it probably thinks they're doing a good job. Being able to so concisely explains it shows how high Corejj's understanding is.
@@MrChlwlstj It all is the basics of bot lane. Knowledge of the game is easier than actually executing it like I said. Just because the pros aren't doing it doesn't mean they aren't aware of it. And to be fair, plat/diamond have no real knowledge of the game just mechanics.
Lol honestly it's more that he's sick and tired of NA being so dogshit so he wants to help people learn the basics since NA doesnt even have those down.
@@cabo8482 because one isn't always able to say the exact same things in one language than the others, not all languages are the same, that's why translating can get tricky
Try Scrap Computer. Old videos, he hasn't uploaded in two years now. But I imagine a lot of this would still apply. He had detailed guides on specific champions and play styles, mindsets and general useful tips in several situations.
Legitimately learned more in these 5 mins about support positioning than in all the thousands of video tutorials I have watched over the last 5 years. Please continue to make more senpai.
as a plat adc main this is genuinely one of the best bot lane videos I've ever seen, things i do and have seen to a certain degree but never had the deep understanding to conceptualize. thank you corejj
Amanti42069 i mean im low plat and i already knew these things. Like it’s almost impossible to lane when your support just stand behind u and generate no threat so u have to give up cs or hp
@@Amanti47 And they deserve it. I have watched so many replays of my games, and supports sitting behind their ADC or engaging far out of their ADC's range are so stupidly common in high plat to low diamond, it's insane. I don't even want to know how things are way below that. I get frustrated for my ADC's from time to time...
If you stay in your own fountain, the enemy team will have a really hard time killing you. The only way you'll die is if they got so fed off your troll teammates that you have no hope of winning anyway.
Quantifying support mechanics is such an amazing and astounding help. There are times when I win the match up, but I am unable to properly assess how I was able to do it because I couldn't pinpoint these simplest mechanics. I'm really glad you're posting support videos now Core! Looking forward to growing more a support with you!
This really helps! I really like the style of the videos. You explain what to do then show real examples from LCS games. It helps a lot to have that visual of a real game! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the next video!
I hope you really continue this videos because the content is really good and helpful and also hearing from a top class support is huuuuge benefit. Thanks.
Thanks for the tips, Core! I use to be Bronze back in season 3 and a Diamond support main taught me the concept of staying parallel to your adc and the importance of positioning in lane. Using those tips, I actually got to Plat 1 in season 4. I don't play the game as competitively as I did before, but I'm glad you're teaching these concepts to other players! Keep up the good work, Core! Fighting!
I swear I've always had the issue of the support trying to start a trade or set up a kill while I was behind them and then, when I can't get within range on time, they stay behind me for the rest of the game and start spamming because they think I'm too passive or not paying attention, but I literally couldn't get there on time any way I tried! This feels so validating, so refreshing to hear, and so easy to understand too!
Core, as a TL fan first and a NA fan second these videos are awesome. You show your dedication to the game and your willingness to help your new region get better. My favorite player (even though I main mid). Please keep making more of these!
I've never seen any league content like this and even though I don't play support all the time it helped me understand the game in a different way. Awesome video, keep them coming please!!
Very Informative, these are some of the little things that make big differences. Looking forward for your future videos. I will keep this in mind and see how will I progress.
Loved this ! Seen tons of videos but these series of videos will help. I'm sure . I'm diamond but with these I think I will reach much far next season ! Thank you Core, awesome work to help us out !
Thank you! Those tips are amazing, with this video I improved my laning phase so much and I could carry much easier by destroying my opposite bot in early. I am playing in diamond elo and I'm still hard-winning lane thanks to those basics. Keep it up, you are one of the best lol pro supports
This is fantastic. I’ve only really played solo lane and jg up until now and have been having trouble grasping how to operate well in lane with a partner. This will definitely help me hit the ground running in bot lane
I'm not entirely sure if you're serious - sarcasm and the internet is a dangerous combination! But assuming you're being sincere, this is way beyond what you need to get out of Iron. The most important thing is basic mechanics: how do I use my abilities? How much damage to they do? What do other champions do? Pick a couple of champions that are fun and get good with them so that the combos are second nature. I recommend Zilean as someone to try because his E is very forgiving if you're out of position and he has some basic combos (doublebomb) as well as an introduction to zone control. Try things out, figure out what you're doing and once you get a basic handle on mechanics you can get to Gold no problem. I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay attention to these things - they're important, but if you're stick in Iron you should probably focus on more basic concepts. You can't build a house starting in the middle - you need a strong foundation! Best of luck - you'll be climbing in no time!
The visuals, explanation, and concepts are perfect. Thank you for this series, Core! Could you add in your commentary of support role from a match? Would like to see it build from your “lessons”!
Interesting. It seems really obvious that the ideal case is both you and the ADC being able to target the same person (ideally the damage dealer/farmer)while they're CC'd, but turning that hope in lane geometry and overall positioning is not obvious and was well articulated. So thank you. I'm looking forward to future episodes to cover more situations and add additional nuance.to these rules.
This was the best support guide I’ve ever watched! I’ve never heard someone talk about positioning this way and it was extremely insightful into the mind of the god support himself :)
I can't express enough how much this happens in low elo, where the support backs away from adc (Tip 5). So much pressure is lost and actually decides lanes under certain champ compositions. Honestly improving that step can get you from iron to high/silver low/gold. Such a minor detail that can play a vital role.
I need a shirt that says "laning phase is not snack time"
good one
It is when u play yumi! Lol go afk and eat snacks while on w
@@daydreaminghost then you're wasting 2 spells, your Passive to pressure/regen and your W to bait CC's
Also shout out to the Vietnamese translation "bạn đi đường, không phải đi ngủ" = "you're going to lane, not going to sleep" 😂
This was interesting! I like how there were examples played from official matches :)
imagine C9 duo and CG duo after watching this LMAO
@@NicerChile Zeyzal and Sneaky will probably both watch this anyways with how abysmal their laning phases are.
@c pig Good one
Sneaky's laning phase is not bad,just watch how zeyzal fuck up every matchup by playing so fkin defensive even in hard winning matchups
Except sneaky and zeyzal aren't teammates anymore nor are they in C9 xd
Actually amazing how you're willing to teach your competition and fans to in order to make the region more competitive and push you further!
He is basically saying. GG ez games. Git gud noobs.
But the content is appreciated. I'll gladly learn from this :D
A lot of this is basic knowledge though. Its whether or not you can continue to act on all of these principles while playing that is the hard part.
@@takejisan808z Positioning parallel and forming triangles with the enemy and ur ADC is definitely not basic knowledge. That's high level stuff (which is why even some pros don't do this). No one in plat and under does this, which i can confirm. And rarely any diamond or higher does this on a consistent basis. If it was basic, there would be tons of guides that talk about this. As a high plat player, I learned a lot from it. I'm assuming you're either master or challenger if "a lot" of people in your games even knows this, let alone does it.
P.S. No flame, but imo this isn't basic knowledge for a lot league players
@@MrChlwlstj Plat is where the players who fully utilize this start to pop up inconsistently and it becomes pretty consistent in diamond, so it's definitely not something you've not encountered before as such. But the impressive thing is I doubt that the majority of diamond players would be able to actually describe to you what's going on, they would just say "my support is afk laning" or something, even though the support who isn't doing it probably thinks they're doing a good job. Being able to so concisely explains it shows how high Corejj's understanding is.
@@MrChlwlstj It all is the basics of bot lane. Knowledge of the game is easier than actually executing it like I said. Just because the pros aren't doing it doesn't mean they aren't aware of it.
And to be fair, plat/diamond have no real knowledge of the game just mechanics.
core just wants to watch the world flourish and help everyone do well... a true support main at heart... we stan a king and a forever icon
NA doesn't deserve him
Lol honestly it's more that he's sick and tired of NA being so dogshit so he wants to help people learn the basics since NA doesnt even have those down.
@@ghosttones3422 Amen.
@@ghosttones3422 oop you didnt have to call these boys out like that but you are Not Wrong
can we just appreciate the editing on this video. really illustrated the points well but kept them brief. keep it up core
this is actually insane ive watched videos of "how to support" by people that speak english, and Core does this in Korean and explains it 10x better..
literally just 5 bullet points and this is probably gonna completely change the way i play
Why would the language difference matter if it’s translated
because corejj 10x better support, than random "how to support" ppl :D
@@cabo8482 because one isn't always able to say the exact same things in one language than the others, not all languages are the same, that's why translating can get tricky
opmami 100xbetter
Finally, a support guide that goes beyond "just ward 'n peel bruv".
Try Scrap Computer. Old videos, he hasn't uploaded in two years now. But I imagine a lot of this would still apply.
He had detailed guides on specific champions and play styles, mindsets and general useful tips in several situations.
@@thecreator625 ⁰p0
Legitimately learned more in these 5 mins about support positioning than in all the thousands of video tutorials I have watched over the last 5 years. Please continue to make more senpai.
Haha came here to say this. :)
Wow, thank you for this, it's so freaking helpful
as a plat adc main this is genuinely one of the best bot lane videos I've ever seen, things i do and have seen to a certain degree but never had the deep understanding to conceptualize. thank you corejj
now you can flame your supports when they don't do that
@@Amanti47 "You didn't watch Corjj's how to support video? You fool!"
Amanti42069 i mean im low plat and i already knew these things. Like it’s almost impossible to lane when your support just stand behind u and generate no threat so u have to give up cs or hp
@@Amanti47 And they deserve it. I have watched so many replays of my games, and supports sitting behind their ADC or engaging far out of their ADC's range are so stupidly common in high plat to low diamond, it's insane. I don't even want to know how things are way below that. I get frustrated for my ADC's from time to time...
This is a whole other level. Loved this
Really informative and well edited! The pro play examples was the cherry on top.
ACTUAL useful points. thank you for this!
Yeah as opposed to most support guides which give you the same common sense tips everybody knows. Great Job Corejj love you!
Christopher Glasgow wait this isn’t common sense? Like no flame but im only gold/plat and i knew this
Ha Pham well I meant more relative to other videos. Plus a lot of people don’t know this kind of stuff at all
Where is the part where you leave lane and never come back? I'm doing this wrong?
No, I think your your it right and everybody is doing it wrong
That will be followed by "your team ADC will curse u"
If you stay in your own fountain, the enemy team will have a really hard time killing you. The only way you'll die is if they got so fed off your troll teammates that you have no hope of winning anyway.
This honestly is the best guide I have ever seen. I don't even play support and I was able to find thing to apply to the mid lane.
This was honestly one of the most clear and useful guides I've ever seen. Definitely going to find and watch the rest of these as they come out!
Quantifying support mechanics is such an amazing and astounding help. There are times when I win the match up, but I am unable to properly assess how I was able to do it because I couldn't pinpoint these simplest mechanics. I'm really glad you're posting support videos now Core! Looking forward to growing more a support with you!
This really helps! I really like the style of the videos. You explain what to do then show real examples from LCS games. It helps a lot to have that visual of a real game! Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the next video!
와 라이브로 볼때도 좋았는데 편집자님이 편집을 진짜 잘하셨네요 ㄷㄷㄷ 유익한 영상 잘 보고 갑니다 ㅎㅎ
Really nice stylized but understated editing, awesome use of examples from pro games to illustrate his points. KILLER content across the board!
코장님 설명 너무 친절하시고 편집자님 편집도 깔끔하고 센스있으세요 👏👏 좋은 가이드 영상 감사합니다!
I hope you really continue this videos because the content is really good and helpful and also hearing from a top class support is huuuuge benefit. Thanks.
Wow, really well explained in concepts and in visuals, looking foward for videos on this Core!
The combination of high-level support tips and tricks and amazing editing made this a really good watch! Keep it up!
편집 엄청 깔끔하게 된 것 같아요
강의내용이 귀에 쏙쏙 들어오네요
170명일 때 구독했는데 지금은 1만이 넘었네요 다음 영상도 기대되네요
Thanks for the tips, Core! I use to be Bronze back in season 3 and a Diamond support main taught me the concept of staying parallel to your adc and the importance of positioning in lane. Using those tips, I actually got to Plat 1 in season 4.
I don't play the game as competitively as I did before, but I'm glad you're teaching these concepts to other players! Keep up the good work, Core! Fighting!
Thanks, u explained it 100 times better than any YT channel
I wish I'd found a video like this years ago. In 5 minutes you explained so much more than the hours and hours of footage I've watched.
I swear I've always had the issue of the support trying to start a trade or set up a kill while I was behind them and then, when I can't get within range on time, they stay behind me for the rest of the game and start spamming because they think I'm too passive or not paying attention, but I literally couldn't get there on time any way I tried! This feels so validating, so refreshing to hear, and so easy to understand too!
Thanks core :) very helpful and nice subtitles
편집 너무 좋아요 사랑합니다 코장님 편집자님!
I've never seen anyone explain lane positioning in so much detail so concisely. Not to mention being easy to visualize, great stuff.
I saw like 100000002020202 times all the videos, I learn something new every time
OMG, THIS WAS REALY GOOD TUTORIAL, THANKS CORE S2
This is awesome! Videos explaining concepts like this are part of making this region better, and help us in solo queue a lot! Thanks!
Damn the production value is really good. Love the editing and subtitle placements. The information given is god tier too! Keep it up buddy!!
Core, as a TL fan first and a NA fan second these videos are awesome. You show your dedication to the game and your willingness to help your new region get better. My favorite player (even though I main mid). Please keep making more of these!
I've never seen any league content like this and even though I don't play support all the time it helped me understand the game in a different way. Awesome video, keep them coming please!!
Very clear and helpful editing. Great stuff
기다리고 있었다구 첫영상 따듯하게 보다 갑니다 ~
This!!!!! is the kind of videos there needs to be online!! the basics about laning phase
I'm a brand new player and I've watched a few support guides. I went from feeding to winning lanes with this guide. Thank you!
Very Informative, these are some of the little things that make big differences. Looking forward for your future videos. I will keep this in mind and see how will I progress.
This is 100% the best guide out there, hands down.
This is amazing!!! Thank you for the detailed explanation 😁 can’t wait for more
Thank you so much! I love that the subtitles and effects are such high quality, really makes it easy to digest even though I dont speak korean at all
Loved this ! Seen tons of videos but these series of videos will help. I'm sure . I'm diamond but with these I think I will reach much far next season ! Thank you Core, awesome work to help us out !
Great video, like the way you explain it and always show examples!
O BR QUE FEZ A LEGENDA É UM DEUS!
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I already knew most of these things but you explained them so well! I'm amazed
Thank you! Those tips are amazing, with this video I improved my laning phase so much and I could carry much easier by destroying my opposite bot in early. I am playing in diamond elo and I'm still hard-winning lane thanks to those basics. Keep it up, you are one of the best lol pro supports
Se la dio duro el que tradujo esto a español, gracias Corejj por este buen contenido
This is actually insanely good wow for 1 whole year I've never thought of this way
for me its been 5 years, how sad
Amazing video, tyvm for the time and effort you put to make this ! I have improved a lot with this playing with thresh !
such a good teacher, even high elo players could learn off this
This is fantastic. I’ve only really played solo lane and jg up until now and have been having trouble grasping how to operate well in lane with a partner. This will definitely help me hit the ground running in bot lane
omg i might get out of iron now.
yo dude, i m diamant 4 and i may get master with this, the level is so high.
Bruh hopefully i get into iron
I'm not entirely sure if you're serious - sarcasm and the internet is a dangerous combination! But assuming you're being sincere, this is way beyond what you need to get out of Iron. The most important thing is basic mechanics: how do I use my abilities? How much damage to they do? What do other champions do? Pick a couple of champions that are fun and get good with them so that the combos are second nature. I recommend Zilean as someone to try because his E is very forgiving if you're out of position and he has some basic combos (doublebomb) as well as an introduction to zone control.
Try things out, figure out what you're doing and once you get a basic handle on mechanics you can get to Gold no problem. I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay attention to these things - they're important, but if you're stick in Iron you should probably focus on more basic concepts. You can't build a house starting in the middle - you need a strong foundation! Best of luck - you'll be climbing in no time!
@@matthewsinnott5386 dam chill its just a youtube comment
@@Teviathan he is doing something good I'm sure someone will find his comment useful :D
Great explanation for those above Gold. Those below need some guides on warding and gold efficiency.
Amazing stuff Core, easily the best guide out there for support!
깔끔하게 팁정리 잘해주셨네요~ 다음 영상이 벌써 기대됩니다 ㅎㅎ
Melhor conteúdo sobre lane phase que já vi Core best sup
this is fantastic, actionable advice. Really looking forward to the rest of the series!
The visuals, explanation, and concepts are perfect. Thank you for this series, Core! Could you add in your commentary of support role from a match? Would like to see it build from your “lessons”!
와 너무 유익하다... 다음편도 기대할게요!
역시 향로메타에서 우승한 서포터입니다.
Very good basic fundamentals so far can't wait for rest of series.
코어장전님 강의영상 볼때마다 느끼는거지만 진짜 이해하기 쉽고 실용적이게 알려주시는것 같아서 너무 좋은거 같아요ㅠㅠ 항상 감사합니다 화이팅!!
THANKS CORE JJ PLZ CONTINUE UR CHANNEL BIG LOVE
Interesting. It seems really obvious that the ideal case is both you and the ADC being able to target the same person (ideally the damage dealer/farmer)while they're CC'd, but turning that hope in lane geometry and overall positioning is not obvious and was well articulated. So thank you. I'm looking forward to future episodes to cover more situations and add additional nuance.to these rules.
Yay! CoreJJ just did a nice video about how to support. It helps me alot. Thank you
This was the best support guide I’ve ever watched! I’ve never heard someone talk about positioning this way and it was extremely insightful into the mind of the god support himself :)
생방 보면서도 진짜 너무 유익하고 좋아서 이거는 모두가 봐야한다 생각했었는데 역시... 믿고보는 코장서폿ㅠㅠ
Concise and well explained. Hope to see more!
I can't express enough how much this happens in low elo, where the support backs away from adc (Tip 5). So much pressure is lost and actually decides lanes under certain champ compositions. Honestly improving that step can get you from iron to high/silver low/gold. Such a minor detail that can play a vital role.
This is insanely practical! Keep up the good work plz!
Thank you for this video.I cant wait for the next one
Thanks a lot, this really helps!! Can't wait for the next episode!!
Excellent content & very nice editing!!
Wow! This is an excellent teaching tool, thank you for providing this content for us viewers!
Nice vid! That is very educational.
이해하기 쉬운 설명에 알맞은 예시 ㅠㅠㅠ 좋은 영상 잘 보고 갑니다...!
Very Good Information that adds knowledge. Good Job to help Community.
Sooo useful! Feels good to learn from one of the best supports out there :D
I was waiting for this
amazing content. good stuff Core and liquid!
yessssss I've been waiting forever for CoreJJ's youtube channel.
I REALLY LOVE THIS FREE COACHING STUFF!! Can't wait for the next episode!
Thanks core! Great to see pros cultivating younger talent
Thank you!! Will be trying to apply more of these in my play.
Ayy lets go Core, glad to see u on youtube
This is what REAL coaching is! TY so much for these insights!
This is super helpful thanks CoreJJ!
This is amazing. I hope you'll be making a lot of videos now that you have more time before the new season starts. Wish you all the best man
I saw this on stream in korean, but I couldnt understand. Thank so much CoreJJ
설명도 좋고 편집도 좋다 ㄷㄷ
I'm sending this to my supports in champ select
Nice vid Core ! :D
Thank you Sir Core.. this is very helpful
Core! This is awesome, really think this is gonna help me improve. Thank you!
Thank you Core!! I'm a support main, you are an inspiration and this is super helpful. You work so hard
:O al fin contenido de calidad para los soportes