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It's honestly hard to overstate how insanely well-researched, well-produced and clear these video essays are. The essays themselves remind me of Jacob Geller's "The Future About Writing About Games", where this ticks every single box of "artistic interpretation of games". I find myself wanting to play MGSV again after every single video, not because of a gameplay aspect or emotion the game itself had caused, but rather because each video opens a new avenue of interpretation. A new way of looking at the game, if you will, a new message to be unveiled and understood. With each video you show a very clear understanding of all the great works you quote and compare to MGSV, as well as a very in-depth understanding of the issues the game saturates itself with, ranging from war to language. In addition, you're keen to move away from both simplistic interpretations (e.g. "English language bad") and cop-out interpretations (e.g. "English language complicated"). You make your own cases for what is bad, what is good, what good stemmed from bad and what bad stemmed from good. All while making it clear to follow, backing it up with interpretations of the time, criticising it with current interpretations and topping it off with a clear ending message (though the last part could perhaps be a bit improved upon). I've seen uni courses that teach less than this video on the subjects of linguistic relativity, linguistic imperialism and 20th century literature. All in all... You're pretty good.
I worked for the census in 2010. That federal designation of “ethnicity” basically being a yes or no question about being Hispanic, then “race” being a separate, multiple-choice question was and still is bananas.
@@hogan4670 I don't think Anglo Saxons will understand that. At least not anytime soon. Whether it's refusal to learn or can't learn is another question.
As a Latino, The spaniards bring almost death to the languages of the Mayan, now, there are efforts to keep them alive, as if those laguages where some kind of species on way of extintion. It always was, to me, very interesting. Also, I remember that Language, also can change how we think. That is important too
I feel bad about our fellow Hispanics, Filipinos are lucky to be able to preserve the hundreds of languages in their homeland. We got away with having a lot of Spanish words in our language. The average non Tagalog Filipino is multilingual, they learn their mother tongue, then Filipino(the local lingua-franca based on Tagalog) and English as they grow up.
@@abnerdoon4902 Latin America generally have it worse than the Philippines due to a few factors. 1. The Spanish were far away and can only manage so much on the Islands and the made it there when Encomienda was abolished. (So the Spanish had more encentive to keep it more stable than Latin America, the Philippines was also an Important Trade Route so its stablility is important.) 2. The Pacific Islanders were not as affected by Old World diseases as New Worlders. (The biggest reason why New World culture and Civilisations are endanger of being lost forever is not only due to Imperialism but also the Diseases that killed of 90% of the New World.) 3. The Islands has always had a ton of different cultures and languages and mearly adopt other foreign ones over time, Christianity isn't even that Alien to the Philippines in Pre Colonial times, though a lot of Natives resisted forced Catholic Conversion and Spanish Rule. Ironically though both Latin America and The Philippines have long since adopted Iberian Culture and Catholicism (and in Latin America's case down to adopting the Language) and has essentially become part of the local identity though with a Local flavor. (Hilariously The Philippines today is kind of similar to Reconquesta period of The Iberian Peninsula, with 2 Major Religions of Catholicism and Islam.)
@@forickgrimaldus8301 the Reconquista analogy is kinda off since, Islam had a stronger presence in the islands before the Spanish came. During Spain's time in the Philippines, the Island of Mindanao was basically one of the last remaining bastions of Islam in the archipelago and were fending off the Spaniards for 300 years. Americans then came and hauled Christianized natives from Luzon and Visayas to the island of Mindanao and gave them free land, basically turning the muslim majority into a minority. The same playbook they used to defeat the Native Americans. Funnily enough, Americans ran concentration camps in the Philippines and fought the Filipinos rivalling both the Spaniards and the Japanese in their cruelty. I think the collective trauma from that time helped with turning the Philippines into one of America's biggest allies in the region.
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The most important lesson Shakespeare taught us: The invented vernacular of today will become the fancy language of the future. As long as a new word or term makes the person using it feel like they've learned something in a way that strengthens the ability to communicate a positive image of oneself, it's likely that person's ancestors will be using that word or term in poetry within 50 to 100 years.
this is a very interesting idea, if you don't mind me making use of it for an essay I'm doing, I think, if you don't know it, you would very much like the studies of post-structuralism, of which the famed emil cioran that appears in that quote in the game is somewhat of a precursor along with Sartre, only I didn't understand that last part, did you mean successors, or ancestors/predecesors?
@@luisaguilar7997 Ah, I see you noticed I slipped in "ancestors" instead of "descendants". ;D I don't mind if you use this idea at all. In fact, I hope you improve upon it. Thanks.
It's really important for people to view the works of Chaucer and Shakespeare in this way. In their respective times both were seen as somewhat odd as much as revolutionary when coining phrases or creating words solely to fit within their works. From an etymological standpoint poems are more impactful than people realise, especially seeing as a considerable amount of religions are founded in rhythmic story telling.
I'm an English teacher. I'm also a writer. And a gamer. I never finished MGS V. I thought the trailer was so incredible, I watched it over and over and over and do to this day. It inspired me to write my own story, based on how I interpreted what the trailer was trying to say. What you cover in this video touches on so much of that. Thank you for making this. You've articulated so much of what I was inspired to produce myself.
A must play so much more is crammed into metal gear masterpiece wish he got to complete it to his desire but even his 70%complete version i think is a contender for best ps3 game.
I think this is one of my favorite videos of yours yet. I always thought that the language elements of MGSV were defining of the game's message, but the vocal cord parasites themselves too often get shrugged off as ridiculous science fiction. Which, I guess it is, but the message behind that conflict is incredibly powerful. It's looking at the intertextuality behind the game, as you do so wonderfully, that you find the real story. Thank you for the video!
Each one of your essays is a delight, every time I learn something new or notice a new detail in the phantom pain. I'm glad soemone else sees just how much there is in this game, if you're willing to sit down and engage on a deeper level that the literal text.
That's the beauty of literary analysis babyyy. I'm so happy to see that there's a genuine interest from so many people in digging deeper into games as art.
Here I am trying to sleep while listening to you recalling the background story of MGSV. Now I am anxious of how much of my cultural identity I will lose if I keep upholding English and keep leaving my mothertongue behind. I was touched by the philosophies when i played MGSV. Now you got me worried. This shit is HEAVY.
Marvelous analytical work, as always. It's absolutely striking how essential language is in the shaping of our world, and yet how it is the cause of all our significant frictions. The blind spots of consciousness, lost in translation by the device of language. "What Stirner says is a word, a thought, a concept; what he means is no word, no thought, no concept. What he says is not what is meant, and what he means is unsayable." - Max Stirner
The points MGSV makes about language always resonated with me as someone who has studied sociolinguistics. Really impressed the game went into topic of the damaging power of the English language the way it did, and even more glad you've analysed it (and other language-related concepts) so well. Another brilliant video!
It’s amazing I’ve never thought about this even tho I myself am a victim of what skull face was fighting against. I am an African American where the African part is only a term used to label me. I have no connection to Africa my ancestor’s motherland. I can not understand any African language and as such I have had my ancestor’s culture stole from me down to the very words I use to type out this message. It’s scary but also interesting thanks for these amazing videos.
I've been telling people this stuff for years but I've never been able to explain it like he did in this video. I'm Indian and fairly traditional. I was never taught our language. I was however taught to speak like our people. Which makes no sense but I'll try to explain. I've always had trouble communicating with people because of honesty. I would word things to mean exactly what I said. Others would speak in carefully constructed riddles that forced you to read between the lines. It was like we spoke the same language but neither of us could understand the other. As I got older I realized that this was what the old folks were talking about when they said things like "the white man's language is the language of liars". That's paraphrasing but a multitude of old quotes from famous chiefs and tribal leaders said things like that. Most people including myself just thought they were trashing white folk and everything about them out of anger but they were actually seeing something. Imagine growing up in a world where you have to have a paper that says you own something or you don't own it. Where people write laws and give definition to every word because if they aren't completely transparent someone will bend the laws and escape justice on a technicality. People are taught not to lie but its kind of okay if you benefit from it. Oh, and greed. The result is a culture where people are so distrustful of each other that everyone is constantly lying or is accusing someone of lying. Constantly trying to gain the upper hand over whoever they're talking to as if they were an opponent. Almost as if communication is a form of warfare to them. And that culture has been embedded in the language itself. When It was spread to us the culture came with it. We began to think like the Europeans and I believe that did more damage to our people than the Europeans ever did to us personally. Today we're so thoroughly Americanized that we actually WANT to be a part of their nations and their governments that spent hundreds of years destroying our people. My boy Quincy (he's black, we talk about stuff like this a lot) came over a while back and we were talking about this Indian woman who was running for something in the government and I told him I wouldn't vote for her and he looked at me like I was crazy. I told him that the system was built for Europeans and it only opens it's doors to our kind when they are Europeanized and willing to uphold that system. That won't change anything for us. We don't need a seat at THEIR table. We need to have OUR OWN tables.
i spoke with one of my leads at work who happens to be Nigerian, i asked what language did they speak in her country, and she told me she spoke english, then i told her i had been told that Nigeria is home to over 500 languages, and she acknowledged it then told me that she can speak one of her native languages but didnt understand others and pointed out a fellow coworker who was also nigerian, she said she didnt understand his language. It made me realize what this game was trying to say, in making English the dominant language or only language in your country, can kill part of your culture. although skullfaces says words can kill, what he meant was language can kill ones culture and identity.
Im latino by the way, Born in Colombia, spanish being my native tongue, but i moved to the states at an early age and had to learn to write and speak english, luckily because i spoke spanish with my mom, i never forgot how to speak the language.
QUIET.... see what i did there. Like her in the story she was supposed to spread her diseased words to the base......💔 R.I.P. best sidekick/partner in the franchise.
The criticism about the game's story is dumb. It stems from comparing it to games like MGS4, which isn't fair, just because the story seems short compared to the other games in the series
There was certainly some content cut, like in any other game, and the third chapter mainly addresses stolen Sahelontropus theme which in the context of the whole franchise doesn't lead anywhere...The problem with the story is in its pacing and the mission structure, if Sahelontropus boss fight had been conclusion, nobody would have complained ...Look at Death Stranding, the game has the same story pacing issues ( most of its cutscenes happened in the beginning and final consequences, the middle section is a pure gameplay , just like MGS V) So rather saying that the game is half finished , i am leaning towards the conclusion that Kojima changed his approach to storytelling...
The story isn't very good at all, like most of Kojimas work it dabbles in a lot of themes and concepts but ultimately doesn't have much to say. In that sense MGSV is his worst effort yet
It wasn't a bad game or a bad story but it was a horrible "MGS" game and horrible "MGS" story. The video game should deliver its story directly. Cassette tapes were a lazy way to shoehorn the story in with minimal effort. The entire story itself is basically delivered in one scene when Skullface and Venom are riding in the Jeep. There is no character development at all for almost everyone. The rest of the game is just stale breadcrumbs.
I think this is your best video on mgsv, so insightful and well-thought-out. all of your work on mgsv highlights aspects of the game that i had ignored or missed or misunderstood, thank you for sharing your interpretations of kojima’s work with us :)
"Listen, don't obsess over words so much. Find the meaning behind the words, then decide" I was quite shocked to realize this phrase was not included in this video essay!
Your videos are the most brilliant and well produced videos about metal gear solid. This one is worth watching even if you never played mgs5 in my opinion. Such a good perspective on how powerful language is. Metal gear solid was sooo ahead of its time and the 5th installation is very underrated.
Coming back to this, current events have lead me to think back on 1984 in particular, and trying to talk to friends and family about it, it is shocking how few of them have actually read 1984, or know anything about it other than the couple of choice quotes and ideas they heard elsewhere at best. What makes it more frightening is I was never actually made to read it in school, just a few choice passages, I had to seek it out on my own later. By then, it was chilling to listen to, how similar it was to discourse of the time (I listened to the audiobook of it in 2016) It's the kind of irony even Orwell himself could have never imagined. The generations that literally came after the titular year, the ones who perhaps needed that warning more than anyone, never got it.
I liked 1984. But idk. I just wish they'd go into the backstory more. Like I wanna learn about the world. But I get it, the books more message then world
As much as I love Nietzsche, there's a reason he's not taken seriously anymore, and it's because we don't base sociology, and psychology and philosophy of today off of rudimentary, unrefined ideas. I really think you and more people need to give yourselves more credit for refining their own philosophies, and giving more ideas to them. You guys are today's philosophers
It is so refreshing to see you upload. I wish Kojima talked a little bit more about the Mandarin Chinese language, not only would I have liked to have a little bit of narrative related to that, it would be cool to have a larger variety of enemies to fight.
How many of those languages that are threatened have a system of writing, an alphabet? Languages that are oral only are at greater risk of disappearing because without a written form to remind, it is much easier to be forgotten
MGSV’s focus on Language and its importance is interesting when considering it appears to be a requisite to civilization-Death Stranding evidences this, intentionally or not, with each prepper in the game speaking English, despite their ethnic/cultural origins. The ability to communicate allows us to build relationships, but also appears to be a prerequisite upon which logistical and commercial relationships can be developed. Herein lies an argument for civic nationalism, a form of bond that occurs in the realm of ideas, where individuals can feel connected by shared ideals, with language enabling us to share those ideals.
As a mixed white-jewish/black american man, I have little connection to most of my roots, i cqnnot read or speak hebrew, and i have no connection to african or even modern black culture. Its been tormenting for a long time to feel like that, but its also inspired me as an artist and writer. Its even better to see these ideas being worked on by someone like kojima. Thanks for elablrating on all of this
Ik.but were Americans and that's the part that sucks man. So many cultures just abandoned or destroyed. Guess it makes you grateful for the things you have to hold on to
This was excellent. It coincided with the education I have regarding informational psychology. It was freaking scary at how close my interpretation of the subject.
I have to admit, before I played MGS5, I never thought of the spoken word, language, as a form of warfare. It was indeed interesting and made me very very sad!
Bravo for putting together this video. All stuff I’ve been obsessively immersed in since the game came out and just in my broader interest in history and pursuit of political projects. It’s nice to have it laid out so well and cohesively here. So many people, even fans, overlook how much thought and depth Kojima puts in these games, and how clearly he himself has a grasp of their magnitude. Then again I do understand the anime lore insanity and aesthetics can cloud it or overshadow it, but I enjoy that, for what it too, but what keeps me thinking is the deep ideas and politics.
I forgot who said it but something really spoke to me about this phrase: "the words that kill are the ones never spoken". The song Schism by Tool is all about this, and I think that speaks volumes about how communication and the missed chances to speak to people you seem to find yourself at odds with seems to drive people further apart and create strife. Imagine how different the MGS world would be if Big Boss and Zero actually talked it out after the attack on Mother Base.
Thats dope, i cant help but feel a little satifaction when i find out great literary figures were polish like me, halfway through heart of darkness atm
Your content is exceptional, and has consistently amazed me by showing how much attention to detail there really was in MGSV, that went for the most part completely over my head when I experienced it. Thank you for making these.
Hoy en día, muchos países no anglosajones son coercidos a enseñar obligatoriamente el inglés, ya sean escuelas publicas o privadas. El doblaje pierde cada vez más agencia sobre los medios de comunicación que consumimos y los productos y publicidad contienen cada vez más inglés. Así como el español le hizo al Nahuatl y al Catalán, el Inglés ahora lo hace con el español. Si eres de habla inglesa agradezco que hayas decidido traducir mi mensaje.
Your videos are so good but the subject matter is very complex.... and on top of it its hidden all in MGS which is in itself complex and nebulous. I know it takes a lot of work to do this I hope its being rewarded
One thing that would be really interesting to note is that language of aristocracy throughout history has often been different to those who were ruled over england for example the ruling class would speak french which was the case since 1066 roughly through to the tudor period, it’s the reason why english as a language has different words for the meat of an animal and the name of an animal for example chicken and poultry. This continued for a long time but more interestingly the oppression of English speaking natives declined as those in charge too spoke English and that oppression was instead focused on celtic, gaelic and cymru speaking groups
Can you purchase the scripts for these videos? I know he writes them out beforehand and it would be good to look at them as well. I listen and pick up new stuff every time I listen.
I've revisited the MGS story recently, and I am absolutely blown away on the quality of production and research of your videos. To take on the depth and complexity of Hideo's work, and summarize it for new comers and veterans of the series, is very impressive and appreciated.
Here is a quote from Code Talker in through of the recordings (taken out of context): "Logic pathways hard-wired into the brain, or "universal grammar"." That theory about being Born with innate language principles and the player waking up (reborn) with the song "The Man Who Sold The World". I wish there was some relation there, but I can't think of any. The title of the song also remind me of "The Man Who Saved The World", who has been referenced several times in the metal gear series, Vasily Arkhipov.
My dawg always dropping the reason why shit is fucked in MGS as well as the similarities real life has with it. Love the content and the channel keep it up homie 🤟🏻
At this point you have gone way beyond what kojima thought of while making the game. You can evaluate references to literature and philosophical symbols to an apparently unlimited extent yet within the confines of human thought, however I believe many references you point out weren´t put in the game intentionally or knowingly but were accidentals coincidences instead. So I believe Kojima might have had these ideas in his head but not necessarily knowing their public origin and producers.
What is interesting on this is after WW2 Japan would not allow anyone who was in the Military to be a school teacher or College Professor. Goes to show words are the ultimate weapon.
Now that you mention Heart of Darkness influence in MGS, it reminds me of this japanese ad for Metal Gear on the famicom, where a reference is made to that famous scene on apocalypse now, even though this particular game was madre without Kojima, it seems some of his influences at least were shown in this short ad ruclips.net/video/DDn_0fmiyKI/видео.html
I also find it so amusing that Eli, a white child soldier in Africa, draws a lot of parallels with Jack from Lord of the Flies, which then in turn draws parallels with another white child soldier from Africa we know named Jack, bringing it all full circle.
“The corruption is with the grammar and structure of the language…fiction in…fiction out.” For the article of the noun is with the void of the people by the conditions of the state. “That which has NO limits is the word of god- therein lies the rub, ironic.”
@Stockholm Syndrome I know right!, I know the creators are trying to get some income out of the hard works they do here but, the amount of ads sometimes makes it unbearable.
Kinda like the word "cringe" has existed for a long time and something that many people have felt in their private lives but didn't have a word for. Now with the digitization of society prophesied by MGS2 aka "social media", we all now experienced this and the word has now entered into public vernacular. It is now part of our lexicon.
People like 10 years back kept saying "Chinese is the language of the future" and I'm curious about other people's takes on that. China is a country being propped up by its very controlling government, but that same country is experiencing unprecedented growth. I still don't think China will overtake English anytime soon, unless they start a war and win
Interesting, I never thought about language from this perspective... I noticed that your usage of the word "slaves" (which is very common) at about 26 minutes in is another example of the tyranny of language. In modern American culture, for whatever reason, it seems like most people automatically think of slaves in reference to pre-emancipation America African descended slaves when in reality the word "slave" does not identify a race or cultural group at all and all skin tones of humans throughout history have been subject to slavery at some point. Same concept goes for the word "racist", especially when people think that some races cannot be racist because of their race. I feel like a lot of what you are saying makes a lot of sense and that modern english has lost the contexts it used to have while creating new contexts that seem self contradictory and change the meaning of thoughts and feelings with it, when analyzed in this way.
I've enjoyed many of your videos analyzing MGSV, and this one is no exception. However, as a linguist, I should point out that the strength of the influence of language on our thoughts, thought style, etc, is highly debatable. MGSV, as you know better than most, is Kojima and company taking a lot of questionable ideas and theories and throwing them at the player in an attempt to create some kind of experience. The strong version of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which is what Skullface rants about, is almost certainly false. Of course language influences our thought and how we think, but the structure of our mammalian brains also does so. Being a mammal and having a mammalian brain exerts a more profound influence on what we can think than the relatively much more recent invention of language. Language can only rearrange some of the furniture, or change the color palette in the room, while the brain structure gives us the size and shape, number of doors and windows, etc. There are a lot more fundamental "tyrannies" going on. And they should be put in scare quotes! This is like talking about the tyranny of gravity. Still, a wonderful video and a great discussion of this interesting game.
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It's honestly hard to overstate how insanely well-researched, well-produced and clear these video essays are. The essays themselves remind me of Jacob Geller's "The Future About Writing About Games", where this ticks every single box of "artistic interpretation of games".
I find myself wanting to play MGSV again after every single video, not because of a gameplay aspect or emotion the game itself had caused, but rather because each video opens a new avenue of interpretation. A new way of looking at the game, if you will, a new message to be unveiled and understood.
With each video you show a very clear understanding of all the great works you quote and compare to MGSV, as well as a very in-depth understanding of the issues the game saturates itself with, ranging from war to language. In addition, you're keen to move away from both simplistic interpretations (e.g. "English language bad") and cop-out interpretations (e.g. "English language complicated"). You make your own cases for what is bad, what is good, what good stemmed from bad and what bad stemmed from good.
All while making it clear to follow, backing it up with interpretations of the time, criticising it with current interpretations and topping it off with a clear ending message (though the last part could perhaps be a bit improved upon). I've seen uni courses that teach less than this video on the subjects of linguistic relativity, linguistic imperialism and 20th century literature.
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A spoken essay about the tyranny of language.😍
Ahhh...the vocal chord parasite strikes again.
the next one will be sign language
@@olucaspc that would make for a interesting watch
I had to learn English to understand a game from a Japanese guy when I was 12. The irony...
Ditto
Japanese are highly educated and many of them takes reading as hobby.
@@williampan29 I didn't realize that they were built so different
@@shaynehughes6645 kekd
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I worked for the census in 2010. That federal designation of “ethnicity” basically being a yes or no question about being Hispanic, then “race” being a separate, multiple-choice question was and still is bananas.
Hispanic is just a group of people who speak spanish, not an ethnicity, when will Americans understand that?
@@hogan4670 I don't think Anglo Saxons will understand that. At least not anytime soon. Whether it's refusal to learn or can't learn is another question.
As a Latino, The spaniards bring almost death to the languages of the Mayan, now, there are efforts to keep them alive, as if those laguages where some kind of species on way of extintion. It always was, to me, very interesting. Also, I remember that Language, also can change how we think. That is important too
I feel bad about our fellow Hispanics, Filipinos are lucky to be able to preserve the hundreds of languages in their homeland. We got away with having a lot of Spanish words in our language. The average non Tagalog Filipino is multilingual, they learn their mother tongue, then Filipino(the local lingua-franca based on Tagalog) and English as they grow up.
At least we weren’t the British.
And now mexican food is all over the world
@@abnerdoon4902 Latin America generally have it worse than the Philippines due to a few factors.
1. The Spanish were far away and can only manage so much on the Islands and the made it there when Encomienda was abolished. (So the Spanish had more encentive to keep it more stable than Latin America, the Philippines was also an Important Trade Route so its stablility is important.)
2. The Pacific Islanders were not as affected by Old World diseases as New Worlders. (The biggest reason why New World culture and Civilisations are endanger of being lost forever is not only due to Imperialism but also the Diseases that killed of 90% of the New World.)
3. The Islands has always had a ton of different cultures and languages and mearly adopt other foreign ones over time, Christianity isn't even that Alien to the Philippines in Pre Colonial times, though a lot of Natives resisted forced Catholic Conversion and Spanish Rule.
Ironically though both Latin America and The Philippines have long since adopted Iberian Culture and Catholicism (and in Latin America's case down to adopting the Language) and has essentially become part of the local identity though with a Local flavor. (Hilariously The Philippines today is kind of similar to Reconquesta period of The Iberian Peninsula, with 2 Major Religions of Catholicism and Islam.)
@@forickgrimaldus8301 the Reconquista analogy is kinda off since, Islam had a stronger presence in the islands before the Spanish came. During Spain's time in the Philippines, the Island of Mindanao was basically one of the last remaining bastions of Islam in the archipelago and were fending off the Spaniards for 300 years.
Americans then came and hauled Christianized natives from Luzon and Visayas to the island of Mindanao and gave them free land, basically turning the muslim majority into a minority. The same playbook they used to defeat the Native Americans.
Funnily enough, Americans ran concentration camps in the Philippines and fought the Filipinos rivalling both the Spaniards and the Japanese in their cruelty. I think the collective trauma from that time helped with turning the Philippines into one of America's biggest allies in the region.
Give this man a PhD in MGSV studies already
Lol
No but for real though, this is incredible work.
@@ZetaMoolah It‘s too much. Jorin seems to have made MGS his religion.
But also give hideo kojima a freaking nobel prize xd
Rather a PhD in whole MG series studies
I know this has been said before, but it’s worth saying 10x over: the value of your videos is incredible on a production, entertainment, and educational level. Thank you for the time / effort it takes to make something as good as this!
The most important lesson Shakespeare taught us: The invented vernacular of today will become the fancy language of the future. As long as a new word or term makes the person using it feel like they've learned something in a way that strengthens the ability to communicate a positive image of oneself, it's likely that person's ancestors will be using that word or term in poetry within 50 to 100 years.
this is a very interesting idea, if you don't mind me making use of it for an essay I'm doing, I think, if you don't know it, you would very much like the studies of post-structuralism, of which the famed emil cioran that appears in that quote in the game is somewhat of a precursor along with Sartre, only I didn't understand that last part, did you mean successors, or ancestors/predecesors?
@@luisaguilar7997 Ah, I see you noticed I slipped in "ancestors" instead of "descendants". ;D
I don't mind if you use this idea at all. In fact, I hope you improve upon it. Thanks.
It's really important for people to view the works of Chaucer and Shakespeare in this way. In their respective times both were seen as somewhat odd as much as revolutionary when coining phrases or creating words solely to fit within their works. From an etymological standpoint poems are more impactful than people realise, especially seeing as a considerable amount of religions are founded in rhythmic story telling.
The sea, has said less
And the flowers do seem turnt
Like my love for eternity
No cap
I'm an English teacher. I'm also a writer. And a gamer. I never finished MGS V. I thought the trailer was so incredible, I watched it over and over and over and do to this day. It inspired me to write my own story, based on how I interpreted what the trailer was trying to say. What you cover in this video touches on so much of that. Thank you for making this. You've articulated so much of what I was inspired to produce myself.
A must play so much more is crammed into metal gear masterpiece wish he got to complete it to his desire but even his 70%complete version i think is a contender for best ps3 game.
Amazing, this is exactly the kind of stuff V does not get enough credit for
That's because it fails as a video game. We shouldn't have to learn this stuff by listening to cassettes.
@@XDWX but who are you to dictate how a creator should explain his art?
@@XDWX Wrong
Foreigner: exists
Random guy: I dont like you
Foreigner: speaks random guy's native language
Random guy: :o
Every Laoshu505000 video
Basically
What's the point of "exist"?
Exists = prepare to be invaded
Rest In Peace to a genuinely good dude tho
Within a month, this became one of my favorite channels. Five years later, you bring back all the enthusiasm for this franchise!
In Greece we have a saying a tongue has no bones but it can break bones
Mgs changed my way of thinking but I didn’t realise how much, till now! Breath taking essay that Hideo will be very happy with!
I think this is one of my favorite videos of yours yet. I always thought that the language elements of MGSV were defining of the game's message, but the vocal cord parasites themselves too often get shrugged off as ridiculous science fiction. Which, I guess it is, but the message behind that conflict is incredibly powerful. It's looking at the intertextuality behind the game, as you do so wonderfully, that you find the real story. Thank you for the video!
Each one of your essays is a delight, every time I learn something new or notice a new detail in the phantom pain. I'm glad soemone else sees just how much there is in this game, if you're willing to sit down and engage on a deeper level that the literal text.
That's the beauty of literary analysis babyyy. I'm so happy to see that there's a genuine interest from so many people in digging deeper into games as art.
@@cybershadow136 Many people fear subjective analysis. They cling to dogma and canon because it is ‘safe‘.
Drinking game ideia: take a shot everytime Orwell is mentioned in an MGSV video
Now that's a word that kill.
such lust for alcohol
Here I am trying to sleep while listening to you recalling the background story of MGSV.
Now I am anxious of how much of my cultural identity I will lose if I keep upholding English and keep leaving my mothertongue behind.
I was touched by the philosophies when i played MGSV. Now you got me worried.
This shit is HEAVY.
Marvelous analytical work, as always. It's absolutely striking how essential language is in the shaping of our world, and yet how it is the cause of all our significant frictions. The blind spots of consciousness, lost in translation by the device of language.
"What Stirner says is a word, a thought, a concept; what he means is no word, no thought, no concept. What he says is not what is meant, and what he means is unsayable." - Max Stirner
The points MGSV makes about language always resonated with me as someone who has studied sociolinguistics. Really impressed the game went into topic of the damaging power of the English language the way it did, and even more glad you've analysed it (and other language-related concepts) so well. Another brilliant video!
It’s amazing I’ve never thought about this even tho I myself am a victim of what skull face was fighting against. I am an African American where the African part is only a term used to label me. I have no connection to Africa my ancestor’s motherland. I can not understand any African language and as such I have had my ancestor’s culture stole from me down to the very words I use to type out this message. It’s scary but also interesting thanks for these amazing videos.
I've been telling people this stuff for years but I've never been able to explain it like he did in this video. I'm Indian and fairly traditional. I was never taught our language. I was however taught to speak like our people. Which makes no sense but I'll try to explain. I've always had trouble communicating with people because of honesty. I would word things to mean exactly what I said. Others would speak in carefully constructed riddles that forced you to read between the lines. It was like we spoke the same language but neither of us could understand the other. As I got older I realized that this was what the old folks were talking about when they said things like "the white man's language is the language of liars". That's paraphrasing but a multitude of old quotes from famous chiefs and tribal leaders said things like that. Most people including myself just thought they were trashing white folk and everything about them out of anger but they were actually seeing something. Imagine growing up in a world where you have to have a paper that says you own something or you don't own it. Where people write laws and give definition to every word because if they aren't completely transparent someone will bend the laws and escape justice on a technicality. People are taught not to lie but its kind of okay if you benefit from it. Oh, and greed. The result is a culture where people are so distrustful of each other that everyone is constantly lying or is accusing someone of lying. Constantly trying to gain the upper hand over whoever they're talking to as if they were an opponent. Almost as if communication is a form of warfare to them. And that culture has been embedded in the language itself. When It was spread to us the culture came with it. We began to think like the Europeans and I believe that did more damage to our people than the Europeans ever did to us personally. Today we're so thoroughly Americanized that we actually WANT to be a part of their nations and their governments that spent hundreds of years destroying our people.
My boy Quincy (he's black, we talk about stuff like this a lot) came over a while back and we were talking about this Indian woman who was running for something in the government and I told him I wouldn't vote for her and he looked at me like I was crazy. I told him that the system was built for Europeans and it only opens it's doors to our kind when they are Europeanized and willing to uphold that system. That won't change anything for us. We don't need a seat at THEIR table. We need to have OUR OWN tables.
i spoke with one of my leads at work who happens to be Nigerian, i asked what language did they speak in her country, and she told me she spoke english, then i told her i had been told that Nigeria is home to over 500 languages, and she acknowledged it then told me that she can speak one of her native languages but didnt understand others and pointed out a fellow coworker who was also nigerian, she said she didnt understand his language. It made me realize what this game was trying to say, in making English the dominant language or only language in your country, can kill part of your culture. although skullfaces says words can kill, what he meant was language can kill ones culture and identity.
Im latino by the way, Born in Colombia, spanish being my native tongue, but i moved to the states at an early age and had to learn to write and speak english, luckily because i spoke spanish with my mom, i never forgot how to speak the language.
Welcome to history pal. Everyone from Persians to Romans to Chinese. Yeah it's bullshit but what can you do really.
I think the stunning quality of this video, says tons about the woeful state of our culture that does not encourage deep thought at all
Maybe the words that kill are the ones we never get to say...
Just like the culture of cancel in USA
QUIET.... see what i did there. Like her in the story she was supposed to spread her diseased words to the base......💔 R.I.P. best sidekick/partner in the franchise.
This is the most philosophically important video (Or any piece of art) I've encountered in a very long time, No hyperbole.
And yet 12 year old fans complain about mgs v story :) I was blown away by this game's story and had a blast listening to tapes...
The criticism about the game's story is dumb. It stems from comparing it to games like MGS4, which isn't fair, just because the story seems short compared to the other games in the series
@Stockholm Syndrome why are we still here? Just to suffer? The story that was lost.... the battles never fought... they just keep hurting.
There was certainly some content cut, like in any other game, and the third chapter mainly addresses stolen Sahelontropus theme which in the context of the whole franchise doesn't lead anywhere...The problem with the story is in its pacing and the mission structure, if Sahelontropus boss fight had been conclusion, nobody would have complained ...Look at Death Stranding, the game has the same story pacing issues ( most of its cutscenes happened in the beginning and final consequences, the middle section is a pure gameplay , just like MGS V) So rather saying that the game is half finished , i am leaning towards the conclusion that Kojima changed his approach to storytelling...
The story isn't very good at all, like most of Kojimas work it dabbles in a lot of themes and concepts but ultimately doesn't have much to say. In that sense MGSV is his worst effort yet
It wasn't a bad game or a bad story but it was a horrible "MGS" game and horrible "MGS" story. The video game should deliver its story directly. Cassette tapes were a lazy way to shoehorn the story in with minimal effort. The entire story itself is basically delivered in one scene when Skullface and Venom are riding in the Jeep. There is no character development at all for almost everyone. The rest of the game is just stale breadcrumbs.
Jorin Lee is Hideo Kojima. I'm just waiting for him to drop the disguise like Liquid revealed himself to Solid.
I found this insanely more interesting than I expected.. Thanks for keeping me up all night ! Now to jump down the rabbit hole of language studies!
Joke's on Skull Face; Venom has nine years of practice sitting quietly while a fake cowboy explains him a thing.
I think this is your best video on mgsv, so insightful and well-thought-out. all of your work on mgsv highlights aspects of the game that i had ignored or missed or misunderstood, thank you for sharing your interpretations of kojima’s work with us :)
"Listen, don't obsess over words so much. Find the meaning behind the words, then decide"
I was quite shocked to realize this phrase was not included in this video essay!
doesnt fit his agenda
@@quantumgigavsigmaraven1745 literally how lol
Yeah, Alex, “He just forgot” for 500 please
Beautiful essay. Thanks for keeping this masterpiece alive and relevant for some of us!
We still come back to this one Jorin
I believe I understand now why Kojima refuses to speak english in public.
Your videos are the most brilliant and well produced videos about metal gear solid. This one is worth watching even if you never played mgs5 in my opinion. Such a good perspective on how powerful language is. Metal gear solid was sooo ahead of its time and the 5th installation is very underrated.
Sham this is the best metal gear solid video posted online ever. You have the approval of gray fox
Coming back to this, current events have lead me to think back on 1984 in particular, and trying to talk to friends and family about it, it is shocking how few of them have actually read 1984, or know anything about it other than the couple of choice quotes and ideas they heard elsewhere at best.
What makes it more frightening is I was never actually made to read it in school, just a few choice passages, I had to seek it out on my own later. By then, it was chilling to listen to, how similar it was to discourse of the time (I listened to the audiobook of it in 2016)
It's the kind of irony even Orwell himself could have never imagined. The generations that literally came after the titular year, the ones who perhaps needed that warning more than anyone, never got it.
I liked 1984. But idk. I just wish they'd go into the backstory more. Like I wanna learn about the world. But I get it, the books more message then world
As much as I love Nietzsche, there's a reason he's not taken seriously anymore, and it's because we don't base sociology, and psychology and philosophy of today off of rudimentary, unrefined ideas. I really think you and more people need to give yourselves more credit for refining their own philosophies, and giving more ideas to them. You guys are today's philosophers
It is so refreshing to see you upload.
I wish Kojima talked a little bit more about the Mandarin Chinese language, not only would I have liked to have a little bit of narrative related to that, it would be cool to have a larger variety of enemies to fight.
How many of those languages that are threatened have a system of writing, an alphabet? Languages that are oral only are at greater risk of disappearing because without a written form to remind, it is much easier to be forgotten
Your level of writing skills really shows in your dialog . GREAT WORK
MGSV’s focus on Language and its importance is interesting when considering it appears to be a requisite to civilization-Death Stranding evidences this, intentionally or not, with each prepper in the game speaking English, despite their ethnic/cultural origins. The ability to communicate allows us to build relationships, but also appears to be a prerequisite upon which logistical and commercial relationships can be developed. Herein lies an argument for civic nationalism, a form of bond that occurs in the realm of ideas, where individuals can feel connected by shared ideals, with language enabling us to share those ideals.
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I can never get enough MGSV
As a mixed white-jewish/black american man, I have little connection to most of my roots, i cqnnot read or speak hebrew, and i have no connection to african or even modern black culture. Its been tormenting for a long time to feel like that, but its also inspired me as an artist and writer. Its even better to see these ideas being worked on by someone like kojima. Thanks for elablrating on all of this
Jewish🤡
Ik.but were Americans and that's the part that sucks man. So many cultures just abandoned or destroyed. Guess it makes you grateful for the things you have to hold on to
I feel bad now because I'm forgetting my language in favour of English
i'm feeling the same thing too
This was excellent. It coincided with the education I have regarding informational psychology. It was freaking scary at how close my interpretation of the subject.
Love your content. Started replaying mgs5 because of you and totally see the game in a new light
I have to admit, before I played MGS5, I never thought of the spoken word, language, as a form of warfare. It was indeed interesting and made me very very sad!
Yeah. Ik, it's weaponized by civilizations. It sucks man
Bravo for putting together this video. All stuff I’ve been obsessively immersed in since the game came out and just in my broader interest in history and pursuit of political projects. It’s nice to have it laid out so well and cohesively here.
So many people, even fans, overlook how much thought and depth Kojima puts in these games, and how clearly he himself has a grasp of their magnitude. Then again I do understand the anime lore insanity and aesthetics can cloud it or overshadow it, but I enjoy that, for what it too, but what keeps me thinking is the deep ideas and politics.
This is great, I personally an Indigenous Canadian, and greatly feel the effects of the ethic cleaning through language!
This man is a supercomputer, I swear!
This man is what yong yea used to be
This comment hits hard, the good old times of mgs v speculation seem so charming compared to beating the dead horse that is saying "loot box bad".
@@lauxbonet4475 he is not the same, man I used to love hearing 1hr analysis about anything mgs related.. then he became too hollywood
I forgot who said it but something really spoke to me about this phrase: "the words that kill are the ones never spoken". The song Schism by Tool is all about this, and I think that speaks volumes about how communication and the missed chances to speak to people you seem to find yourself at odds with seems to drive people further apart and create strife.
Imagine how different the MGS world would be if Big Boss and Zero actually talked it out after the attack on Mother Base.
I'm so happy you have so many patrons, if I had the possibility, I would become one, too
This video also shows the tyranny of language by being only able to be experienced in a single language
I would really enjoy an update on this subject matter in regards to today's language based model AI's rapid "invasion".
Fun fact: Real name of Joseph Conrad was Józef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski as he was Polish born in Berdyczów.
Thats dope, i cant help but feel a little satifaction when i find out great literary figures were polish like me, halfway through heart of darkness atm
Your content is exceptional, and has consistently amazed me by showing how much attention to detail there really was in MGSV, that went for the most part completely over my head when I experienced it. Thank you for making these.
Damn I wish I could just talk with you about history and contemporary international politics. Seems like it’d be so interesting. Great upload!
Hoy en día, muchos países no anglosajones son coercidos a enseñar obligatoriamente el inglés, ya sean escuelas publicas o privadas. El doblaje pierde cada vez más agencia sobre los medios de comunicación que consumimos y los productos y publicidad contienen cada vez más inglés. Así como el español le hizo al Nahuatl y al Catalán, el Inglés ahora lo hace con el español. Si eres de habla inglesa agradezco que hayas decidido traducir mi mensaje.
No problem my friend.
Your videos are so good but the subject matter is very complex.... and on top of it its hidden all in MGS which is in itself complex and nebulous. I know it takes a lot of work to do this I hope its being rewarded
One thing that would be really interesting to note is that language of aristocracy throughout history has often been different to those who were ruled over england for example the ruling class would speak french which was the case since 1066 roughly through to the tudor period, it’s the reason why english as a language has different words for the meat of an animal and the name of an animal for example chicken and poultry. This continued for a long time but more interestingly the oppression of English speaking natives declined as those in charge too spoke English and that oppression was instead focused on celtic, gaelic and cymru speaking groups
Can you purchase the scripts for these videos? I know he writes them out beforehand and it would be good to look at them as well. I listen and pick up new stuff every time I listen.
Amazing and precise analysis. Gran análisis, mis respetos, amigo.
I've revisited the MGS story recently, and I am absolutely blown away on the quality of production and research of your videos. To take on the depth and complexity of Hideo's work, and summarize it for new comers and veterans of the series, is very impressive and appreciated.
New favorite channel
I love your videos because even if I'm not the biggest metal gear fan, I'm still all in on your content for the history/sociology/philosophy etc.
And another banger of a video
Here is a quote from Code Talker in through of the recordings (taken out of context):
"Logic pathways hard-wired into the brain, or "universal grammar"."
That theory about being Born with innate language principles and the player waking up (reborn) with the song "The Man Who Sold The World". I wish there was some relation there, but I can't think of any.
The title of the song also remind me of "The Man Who Saved The World", who has been referenced several times in the metal gear series, Vasily Arkhipov.
Good you even finished it before I asked, wonderful.
My dawg always dropping the reason why shit is fucked in MGS as well as the similarities real life has with it. Love the content and the channel keep it up homie 🤟🏻
Check out "The Language Hoax" by John McWhorter that challenges the whole "language shapes thought" idea.
Thanks for this recommendation, I looked it up and I find McWhorter's talks to be very interesting material.
At this point you have gone way beyond what kojima thought of while making the game. You can evaluate references to literature and philosophical symbols to an apparently unlimited extent yet within the confines of human thought, however I believe many references you point out weren´t put in the game intentionally or knowingly but were accidentals coincidences instead. So I believe Kojima might have had these ideas in his head but not necessarily knowing their public origin and producers.
This is fairly new, always waited on a video on language as it stood out to me during gameplay
A very good and very well researched analysis. Hat off to you sir. Bravo!
What is interesting on this is after WW2 Japan would not allow anyone who was in the Military to be a school teacher or College Professor. Goes to show words are the ultimate weapon.
Respect for your dedication. Well done!
criminally underrated video!
I really enjoyed this. Very thought provoking. Thank you.
Finally! Transcripts!
THE GOAT RETURNS
Now that you mention Heart of Darkness influence in MGS, it reminds me of this japanese ad for Metal Gear on the famicom, where a reference is made to that famous scene on apocalypse now, even though this particular game was madre without Kojima, it seems some of his influences at least were shown in this short ad ruclips.net/video/DDn_0fmiyKI/видео.html
I also find it so amusing that Eli, a white child soldier in Africa, draws a lot of parallels with Jack from Lord of the Flies, which then in turn draws parallels with another white child soldier from Africa we know named Jack, bringing it all full circle.
Hit it out of the park again great job man
“The corruption is with the grammar and structure of the language…fiction in…fiction out.”
For the article of the noun is with the void of the people by the conditions of the state.
“That which has NO limits is the word of god- therein lies the rub, ironic.”
Wonderful topic, Great explanation, Keep on keeping on Boss.
Good job my man, I thoroughly enjoy your essays
Awesome stuff as always, but man the volume of ads in these videos are really pushing for a RUclips premium sub.
@Stockholm Syndrome I know right!, I know the creators are trying to get some income out of the hard works they do here but, the amount of ads sometimes makes it unbearable.
Kinda like the word "cringe" has existed for a long time and something that many people have felt in their private lives but didn't have a word for. Now with the digitization of society prophesied by MGS2 aka "social media", we all now experienced this and the word has now entered into public vernacular. It is now part of our lexicon.
Would you speak them to me?
People like 10 years back kept saying "Chinese is the language of the future" and I'm curious about other people's takes on that.
China is a country being propped up by its very controlling government, but that same country is experiencing unprecedented growth. I still don't think China will overtake English anytime soon, unless they start a war and win
I can kinda see it happening. I mean no one thought English would be as big
My grandma always says: „One langueage equals one life. Learn as many languages as you can.“
Interesting, I never thought about language from this perspective...
I noticed that your usage of the word "slaves" (which is very common) at about 26 minutes in is another example of the tyranny of language. In modern American culture, for whatever reason, it seems like most people automatically think of slaves in reference to pre-emancipation America African descended slaves when in reality the word "slave" does not identify a race or cultural group at all and all skin tones of humans throughout history have been subject to slavery at some point. Same concept goes for the word "racist", especially when people think that some races cannot be racist because of their race. I feel like a lot of what you are saying makes a lot of sense and that modern english has lost the contexts it used to have while creating new contexts that seem self contradictory and change the meaning of thoughts and feelings with it, when analyzed in this way.
You raise some good points! Thanks for watching
I mean it's foolish to think that slavery is one race when it stems from the word Slavic
bro, i love your work
my favorite Shakespeare word is eyeball but i think he just popularized it rather than coined it
I've enjoyed many of your videos analyzing MGSV, and this one is no exception. However, as a linguist, I should point out that the strength of the influence of language on our thoughts, thought style, etc, is highly debatable. MGSV, as you know better than most, is Kojima and company taking a lot of questionable ideas and theories and throwing them at the player in an attempt to create some kind of experience. The strong version of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which is what Skullface rants about, is almost certainly false. Of course language influences our thought and how we think, but the structure of our mammalian brains also does so. Being a mammal and having a mammalian brain exerts a more profound influence on what we can think than the relatively much more recent invention of language. Language can only rearrange some of the furniture, or change the color palette in the room, while the brain structure gives us the size and shape, number of doors and windows, etc. There are a lot more fundamental "tyrannies" going on. And they should be put in scare quotes! This is like talking about the tyranny of gravity.
Still, a wonderful video and a great discussion of this interesting game.
This is the most Americana hitting video ever made!
thank you for mentioning Pip. Noone remembers Pip.
Fantastic Video as always.
Excellent video brother