@@Jaz_3 smoothing isn't an "advanced feature" it's a choice. the Logitech software enables it by default. the mouse pen software doesn't. price has nothing to do with it.
@@1986DarkStalkerNope. The pen mouse is just a weird mouse while a tablet has absolute positioning. That means if I lift that pen mouse and move it 2 inches to the right before putting it down, the cursor stays at the same area. A pen from a tablet, however, would move the mouse way into the right if I did the same thing.
Pros: -Small and ergonomic for all hand size, good for people who carries laptop all over the place. -Pretty sensitive to movement, you can pull some really fast camera turn in shooter games with ease. -Lightweight, it's only a little bit heavier than a real pen. Cons: -Short battery life, this thing only uses a single triple a battery so you have to change the battery more often. -Imprecise control, pin point accuracy is really hard with this mouse. -Bad build quality, it breaks after 8 months from regular use for me. -Terrible for drawing, sorry fellow artist, you're not getting a cheap drawing pad with this. This is what I've found out after using this mouse. It's honestly best suited for people who needs to carry around laptop for whatever reason, be it for work or college. Ironically, this mouse is not suited for gamers or artist.
@@SidShakal would probably make it a better niche for artists, but would be more awkward for pretty much any other task. Though admittedly, it'd probably make a cool control gimmick for a game made around it.
I’d recommend using a mouse tablet instead of that pen mouse, it’s basically the same thing but instead of having the mouse track it’s own movement, it’s on a tablet that tracks with absolute positioning
I actually use a pen for fps games but it's designed as an actual drawing tablet pen. I grip the buttons on my thumb so the pressure of my other fingers don't mess up the positioning of my hand
Just telling you for like another video idea that is mainly used for ous it's a game that you have to tap dots with, and it also has sliders, which is hard to do with a mouse, and that's really good for that kind of thing
I feel like moving the click to the thumb instead of index for this grip would eliminate much of the issue. I know we are trained to click with the index finger, but for the hand position i think the thumb would be more natural and ergonomic.
pens are also just something you need to get used to. I use a drawing tablet, when I first bought it I didn't have the muscle memory to draw smoothly or quickly. It's no different from breaking in a new mouse.
That's used for graphic design, I'm a graphic designer and if used them since high school. Cool tool for the right price for a kid teaching themselves in school.
This reminds me of when I used an emulator to connect a ps3 controller to my pc to play minecraft a long time ago, it comes down to software because the pen likely doesn’t have acceleration and smoothing, which are good features in mice but having the ability to tune those things to your liking really makes a difference when it comes to gaming
I've been using that exact mouse pen for about 4 years now and it feels perfectly natural to me. I think if you had a while to adjust to the mouse, you might have a more accurate comparison and better results.
I'd say that pen is simply a weird in between, because it still uses relative positioning. Try a pen tablet with absolute positioning (i.e. top left corner of the tablet corresponds to top left of the screen), especially for drawing. Will be pretty useless for fps though, there only relative works properly^^
It's because you MUST hold that wireless "pen" at a specific angle and orientation for it to work, while an actual pen can rotate, twist, and move around a lot and still work. Compare that pen to the kind of pen you see digital artists use (example: Wacom Intuos 4 pen). You'll probably have a better time. There is a reason why digital pen/keyboard combo is popular in precision games like OSU
Got one of these a few months ago as an uber-compact mouse. It's now collecting dust while I use a cheap, normal travel mouse. My main issue is you need to hold it at the specific angle it's designed for or it won't register. My comfortable writing angle is nearly 90 degrees, so having to hold it at roughly 45 to use it isn't great.
I definitely think the button on the mouse affected it I use a drawing tablet, its it's easier for me to hover the pen and tap to click/shoot But moving the camera with the pen is a little tougher, at least from my experience
Another hidden function of those mouse pens is that they are also compatible with Android devices and will actually bring out a on screen mouse and its wonderful for tons of apps
That mouse is meant to be used as a stylus. Its mostly for osu players or artists on a budget. I had one, it did its job, and i was happy with it until my brother broke it.
If you had used the support for the mouse your results would have been better most likely. I have several of these and for drawing and other applications that are not directly suited to on screen emulation they are actually significantly better than most mice. This said it takes some learning for games.
To be honest this can be an alt (And cheeper) way for artists have a pen most of them buy a drawimg tablet and connect it to the pc but for people that dont have money this can be a temporal option
I'm someone who doesn't really use a mouse that often not even when gameing and I'm also a digital artist do i think i could use that really well. Way better than a traditional mouse.
I wonder how the pen style mouse would be for aiming if it was possible to click with some other part of your body, like using pedals for feet powered clicks.
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Next step--> mouse shaped pens
1 letter from something very different
@@Mini_Noob22Oh god between the n and the s
@@Mini_Noob22ITS THE PLURAL FORM OF PEN HOW DIRTY IS YOUR MIND-
@@Pain_train_wieldernext step-> mouse shaped penis
@@Mini_Noob22 mouse shaped penis ain't normal?
No shot he drew a circle that good with a mouse
fr bro I was tripped up from that
It's easy to draw a circle with a mouse, even without mouse smoothing :L
When you disable acceleration, it's actually not that hard
Logitech has smooting
@@pixels_per_inch people actually have mouse acceleration on?
Logitech got smoothing enabled by default. Disable that and test again.
Maybe the pen should enable smoothing by default too
@@ZombieBrains9876a Logitech mouse is like $70 while the pen is $10 it’s not gonna be as advanced as the mouse
@@Jaz_3That's really not how this works
@@josephpbrown Then how does it work? I’m not really good with computers so I’m just going off of logic here
@@Jaz_3 smoothing isn't an "advanced feature" it's a choice. the Logitech software enables it by default. the mouse pen software doesn't. price has nothing to do with it.
that's the best mouse handwriting I've ever seen
ya I would've bet it was backwards if he didn't pan back to the mouse
Yep I was gonna say, he's just good at it
Osu Players:
*laughs maniacally*
(Edit: I started a war with the osu! fanbase, help me)
We be using tablets
@@pigxiety5479 exactly, not some pen mice.
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@@urlocalgrasshair7899that’s literally the same thing, just without the tablet
@@1986DarkStalkerNope. The pen mouse is just a weird mouse while a tablet has absolute positioning. That means if I lift that pen mouse and move it 2 inches to the right before putting it down, the cursor stays at the same area. A pen from a tablet, however, would move the mouse way into the right if I did the same thing.
The video: Pen mouse vs. Regular mouse
My brain: Gravity Falls remix
Hahaha same. First reason why I checked the comments.
I thought I was the only one until I checked
Only reason I checked the comments
Yes
Same lmao
Pros:
-Small and ergonomic for all hand size, good for people who carries laptop all over the place.
-Pretty sensitive to movement, you can pull some really fast camera turn in shooter games with ease.
-Lightweight, it's only a little bit heavier than a real pen.
Cons:
-Short battery life, this thing only uses a single triple a battery so you have to change the battery more often.
-Imprecise control, pin point accuracy is really hard with this mouse.
-Bad build quality, it breaks after 8 months from regular use for me.
-Terrible for drawing, sorry fellow artist, you're not getting a cheap drawing pad with this.
This is what I've found out after using this mouse. It's honestly best suited for people who needs to carry around laptop for whatever reason, be it for work or college. Ironically, this mouse is not suited for gamers or artist.
drawing tablet is better than a mouse but that is just a mouse in the shape of a pen
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Played a lot of games on my old Wacom tablet like 12 years back, have they gotten much better since? I was already impressed even then.
So this is how my teammates play 😓
I assure you it's just because I suck 🤣
@@Mechachuyou suck
the primary button should be where the thumb goes for this, not the index
Yeah that's what I was thinking too
i was thinking the primary button should be in the tip, so you push down to click, and hold it while moving to drag?
@@SidShakal would probably make it a better niche for artists, but would be more awkward for pretty much any other task. Though admittedly, it'd probably make a cool control gimmick for a game made around it.
Gravity falls theme song 🥳🥳🤩
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT🤣
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It looks like the submersible
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bro
I was thinking the same thing
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How tf was that so good of a drawing with a MOUSE
Next video: Live mouse vs normal mouse, which is better? 🐁
Live mouse... It gives live signals to the PC so it will be instant response time
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@@jaydenleckpa8381 dude 🤨
"As you see the moment i plug it in, it gets absolutely fried"
@@RandomRUclips.Enjoyeray bro it’s almost as cooked as it is when one jumps into a kfc deepfryer
Looks like the titan sub
I was shook when I saw you draw with the mouse. Anytime I draw anything with the mouse it's straight ass
Logitech mice have smoothing on by default he probably forgot to turn it off
I’d recommend using a mouse tablet instead of that pen mouse, it’s basically the same thing but instead of having the mouse track it’s own movement, it’s on a tablet that tracks with absolute positioning
Its the placement of the button, it should be by the thumb instead of the front.
Some of these mouse pens have pressure things so when you press down is draws
Love the gravity Falls music in the background
Bro just flexed with how good he draw that circle
I actually use a pen for fps games but it's designed as an actual drawing tablet pen. I grip the buttons on my thumb so the pressure of my other fingers don't mess up the positioning of my hand
Tha was the smoothest circle I’ve ever seen drawn in a mouse
Bro really thought we wouldn’t recognise the Gravity Falls theme
I unironically want this.
G R A V I T Y F A L L S ! ! !
i’ve never seen anyone draw that well with a mouse
The fact that u can draw so smoothly whit the mouse is insane
Bind the mouse buttons to a keyboard button instead of wrapping your finger around the front.
I feel like thumb presses would make a lot more sense for a pen-style mouse.
As someone developing carpel tunnel from drawing so much, this feels like my worst nightmare lmao
The casual pen spinning was a nice touch
The button should be on the side where your thumb is
honestly, it's just down to practice. I was pretty rough with my drawing tablet for a while, but now im good enough to make my art my own pfp.
Drawing a nearly perfect circle with mouse is wild 💀
Finally, an honest review of a novel, interesting product compared to a traditional one that doesn’t put the weird one up on a pedestal
Putting in the battery looks like it would be an insanely satisfying fidget
Since I do draw traditionally I would love that pen mouse
Just telling you for like another video idea that is mainly used for ous it's a game that you have to tap dots with, and it also has sliders, which is hard to do with a mouse, and that's really good for that kind of thing
Isn’t this absolutely glorious for art people tho. Why have I never heard of this b4
Honestly the pen mouse looks like it could be pretty nice if it just had more ergonomic button placements
I feel like moving the click to the thumb instead of index for this grip would eliminate much of the issue. I know we are trained to click with the index finger, but for the hand position i think the thumb would be more natural and ergonomic.
pens are also just something you need to get used to. I use a drawing tablet, when I first bought it I didn't have the muscle memory to draw smoothly or quickly. It's no different from breaking in a new mouse.
That's used for graphic design, I'm a graphic designer and if used them since high school. Cool tool for the right price for a kid teaching themselves in school.
Well yeah you can’t expect years of muscle memory to be worse than a single gadget you buy and use for 2 minutes
Maybe the button being under the thumb would make the pen feel better for use.
This reminds me of when I used an emulator to connect a ps3 controller to my pc to play minecraft a long time ago, it comes down to software because the pen likely doesn’t have acceleration and smoothing, which are good features in mice but having the ability to tune those things to your liking really makes a difference when it comes to gaming
I've been using that exact mouse pen for about 4 years now and it feels perfectly natural to me. I think if you had a while to adjust to the mouse, you might have a more accurate comparison and better results.
Not gonna lie, if people who made this and people who made mouses came together, they could really enhance the future of gaming mice
I'd say that pen is simply a weird in between, because it still uses relative positioning. Try a pen tablet with absolute positioning (i.e. top left corner of the tablet corresponds to top left of the screen), especially for drawing. Will be pretty useless for fps though, there only relative works properly^^
I may not know how to write but I did grow up with a nintendo ds and then 3ds, the stulus can be amazing sometime
It's because you MUST hold that wireless "pen" at a specific angle and orientation for it to work, while an actual pen can rotate, twist, and move around a lot and still work.
Compare that pen to the kind of pen you see digital artists use (example: Wacom Intuos 4 pen). You'll probably have a better time. There is a reason why digital pen/keyboard combo is popular in precision games like OSU
Pen shaped mouse nah that's a titanic submersable
Maybe if we replace the "click" on the pen with instead tapping a physical surface (like writing) we can achieve a more natural style?
As a left handed person the pens are much easier to write with than my right handed mouse
Got one of these a few months ago as an uber-compact mouse. It's now collecting dust while I use a cheap, normal travel mouse.
My main issue is you need to hold it at the specific angle it's designed for or it won't register. My comfortable writing angle is nearly 90 degrees, so having to hold it at roughly 45 to use it isn't great.
I feel like it’s pretty obvious that you would do far better with the normal mouse that you have been using for years
Not gonna lie, I wanna get this because I want to get into digital art creating but I don't wanna deal with a drawing tab!
I definitely think the button on the mouse affected it
I use a drawing tablet, its it's easier for me to hover the pen and tap to click/shoot
But moving the camera with the pen is a little tougher, at least from my experience
If it had the button on the side where your thumb is, it would be perfect.
If the button was on the side where your thumb is, it would be incredible
I think it would be better if the button was where your thumb is
I feel like that pen one would be cool if the bottom for clicking was on the top like a normal pen
I use a mouse pen because my normal mouse broke and I’m too lazy to get another, it works pretty well you get used to it pretty quick
that mouse looks like a certain sub accident that happened near the titanic
Being able to draw that well iwith a mouse Is lowkey impressive
Another hidden function of those mouse pens is that they are also compatible with Android devices and will actually bring out a on screen mouse and its wonderful for tons of apps
A german Csgo streamer used it in high level games and said if it had better quality it could be the game changer
Maybe itd be cool for that weird ass oso game everybody used to play
That mouse is meant to be used as a stylus. Its mostly for osu players or artists on a budget. I had one, it did its job, and i was happy with it until my brother broke it.
If you had used the support for the mouse your results would have been better most likely. I have several of these and for drawing and other applications that are not directly suited to on screen emulation they are actually significantly better than most mice. This said it takes some learning for games.
Left handers are suffering rn
that pen looks like an elongated version of the submarine
If they manage to make it so the button on the tip making you tap to click might make it easier to use.
The struggle of being left handed and using a mouse with my right so never really being able to write with a mouse
Misread as "Strangled Mouse".....
Was not disappointed.
You understand that they make drawing tablets and stuff for drawing, they also work better for gaming than the thing you bought
You are just an amazing drawer with the mouse. Who can draw a nice circle with a mouse...
this is so much smarter than buying a drawing tablet
I would like the pen mouse.
It seems easier to use for certain applications
if the button was on the side i feel it might been better.
but i do have a friend who uses a pen and drawing tablet as a mouse
That mouse really implodes
Next step, pen kni- oh wait I have tons of those
next step: pen for tracking, keyboard for firing
To be honest this can be an alt (And cheeper) way for artists have a pen most of them buy a drawimg tablet and connect it to the pc but for people that dont have money this can be a temporal option
u gotta get a drawing a tablet. they have a smaller mapping area and you dont have to click a button to register an input
AS AN OSU PLAYER dont use the button on the pen to shoot, bind the shoot key on a keyboard key for bettere results
I use a artist digital pen for fps games all the time, and i actually think it improved my aim once i got used to it
This is especially for me. I'm a right handed mouser, but I'm a left handed writer. I would have to completely remap and relearn every PC game I own.
G402 is still one of my favorite mice ever.
It's too good (nostalgic for me)
That's is what used to be called a cat. It was cat and mouse... early graphic designers used it
I'm someone who doesn't really use a mouse that often not even when gameing and I'm also a digital artist do i think i could use that really well. Way better than a traditional mouse.
The pen's got the hardware from a cheap optical and is converting thing to near horizontal and vertical.
If you get used to the pen you'll be unstoppable in FPS games
I’m sure it’d be great for gaming if they just put the button on the side where your thumb could press it
That looked like a folding knife. I would give that a 8/10
Wonder if this would be better or worse for left-handed people. All lefties I know (including myself) still use their right hand for the mouse.
I should try it, as I am left handed to write but right handed with the mouse
I wonder how the pen style mouse would be for aiming if it was possible to click with some other part of your body, like using pedals for feet powered clicks.
Need the pen that is made for drawing and such for computers.
This is a decently cheap option for those that can't afford the real thing.