The Church Before the Church: Who Were They?
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024
- Again, we continue our series of lessons covering the beginning of the church. As you explain this truth to others, they may ask you, “What about the church before the church, the Body of Christ?” You will find help giving your answer in this lesson, “The Church Before the Church.”
Find the outline here :graceambassador...
Grace Ambassadors Bible Fellowship -March 31st, 2019
I listened to this twice. There is still much doctrine and teaching in this one hour it blesses me more than I can say. Thank you Lord and thank you Justin for being true to what the bible really says. Send this to every Christian you know.
Without rightly dividing scripture, the truth can conflicting for the reader. 1 Tim 2;15 commands to study and how to study, but no church or bible study class honors the scripture, or ignores or creates their own 'dividing' process.
@@claythomas7982 It's second Timothy. I'm not sure what you mean by, "but no church or bible study class honors the scripture, or ignores or creates their own 'dividing' process."?
❤ Good teaching and reminder to look back on and get something from, to help us grow in understanding about The different aspects of the plan of God for New Testament Israel and The Body of Christ !
This is such an important lesson. So clear. As others have said, I will need to watch this one again, and also the other 2 before it.
Thank you Justin for Rightly Dividing the Churches of Scripture in a manner that should be clear to all!
A much needed teaching, thank God for dispensational teachers and ministries that clear up these misunderstandings and show us through scripture who we ( body of Christ) are and who we are not.(little flock).
I love the series...I have so much to unlearn or newly learn.
Thank you for this teaching!
You blow my mind! and your right! I love your words!
My kind of theological video - thank you brother.
26:16 "A bucket of Crisco". I laughed so hard! Powerful teaching, Justin. Looking forward to finishing up the outline next time. Thank you.
Hi Scott
Got it. At last, I got it! Thanks preacher, untold thanks!
Where was I 3 yrs ago? Still stuck in prophecy only teachings ! God opened my eyes over a year ago and brought me joy, now I have to catch up, love your talks. Any chance or of showing the words as you speak, for the deaf?
Good question. That's the problem I have ..And why the tribulations didn't come as Jesus predicted??? That's why many skeptics , and scholars think Jesus was a apocalyptic preacher
Fantastic teaching Justin! So helpful. Thank you.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 😊
Great teaching JJ...
Good teachings, Justin. Thank you!
Lord, please keep filling Brother Justin's mouth with these words of truth. Amen.
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Good question. That's the problem I have ..And why the tribulations didn't come as Jesus predicted??? That's why many skeptics , and scholars think Jesus was a apocalyptic preacher
If anyone made a film about this preacher , I’d cast Micheal Keaton as Justin.
Feb. 2024 - great video. Would so love to ask questions. Are the general (Hebrew) epistles used by the Hebrew church until…… when? Where is the Hebrew church? Will they go into the Tribulation, using those same epistles? 144,000 in Revelation?
The only 12 tribes I know is the Old testament...there a new 12 tribes ??? Are they the tribes on revelation? 144000
Does anyone know of and church in UK that preaches this...so much confusion in the UK that mix up New testament and the body. Wish I could grasp this teaching more!
U gotta start ur own
It would help if you numbered the lessons in ANY series. You did it before, so why not now?
It's pretty darn obvious that when we say CHURCH, we mean the true body of Christ - the true and repented Believers. Pretty darn obvious indeed.
Romans 16:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
10:00 Can someone explain if when he says old testament Israel is not coming back, that means they will not be resurrected for life; I am confused because obviously Abraham, David etc., will live again.
Good point
Good question .. did new flock israel.befome the 12 tribes ??
@@Steven98129yea
And if Jesus chose flock , than why the tribulations didn't come as Jesus predicted ??? How the tribulations is future ??? Don't make sense ...that's why many skeptics , atheist claim that Jesus prediction was a imminent return when Jesus said those things
Our church is having a Birthday Celebration to celebrate the birthday of the church on 9th June as it's Pentecost. Looks like they are having a wasted birthday! I shall not be attending!
Since Jesus transferred the covenant to 1st-century believing Jews, why did Jacob’s trouble, judgment of the nations, and the kingdom not come back then?
Good question. That's the problem I have ..And why the tribulations didn't come as Jesus predicted??? That's why many skeptics , and scholars think Jesus was a apocalyptic preacher
He told his disciples the end would come in their lifetime ....and that they won't go through all the towns in Israel.beforw the son of man comes ... Mat 10:23
How this is a future event??? Even if church of Paul is today , it doesn't exclude what Jesus said about his prediction to the apostle
@@Moodboard39 Their promised kingdom was at hand, near. They had to receive their King for the rest of the prophecies to occur. Israel’s leaders rejected their Messiah, so those events have not occurred, but must in the future.
It’s been awhile since I watched this video, so I don’t recall the point I was trying to make. I was trying to stir critical thinking.
In Matt 10:23, the Greek verb for “shall” is conditional. So they had to receive Him in order for that to occur. “Son of man” is a Messianic phrase. Hope that helps.
The foundation is the same with Paul and Peter - Jesus Christ - to whom He is preached, and what is preached is all different. That is if words mean anything. Peter never said nor would he: for by grace ye are saved through faith and not of ourselves, we are one body in Christ, we have all spiritual blessings now, the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified, not by works of righteousness which we have done are we saved, circumcision is nothing, we are presently saved, there is neither Jew or Gentile, but Paul did say all of these. And the list goes no and on. If you can't see the differences after the foundation you are not reading the same as I am. Have a good weekend.
Best simple explanation I’ve ever read!
I am goin to steal this, thank you for the concise comment
So are the churches in Revelation the same as Matthew 16:18?
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My first visit here. Very confusing to me...
What u mean ?
So where is the NT Isreal church now from Acts 2 to the body of Christ? Are they scattered? Does it exist today and where are they?
No dna left of these people ??? Bones ? Nothing ,
Church
Easton's Bible Dictionary - Church
Church [N] [S]
Derived probably from the Greek kuriakon (i.e., "the Lord's house"), which was used by ancient authors for the place of worship.
In the New Testament it is the translation of the Greek word ecclesia, which is synonymous with the Hebrew kahal of the Old Testament, both words meaning simply an assembly, the character of which can only be known from the connection in which the word is found. There is no clear instance of its being used for a place of meeting or of worship, although in post-apostolic times it early received this meaning. Nor is this word ever used to denote the inhabitants of a country united in the same profession, as when we say the "Church of England," the "Church of Scotland," etc.
We find the word ecclesia used in the following senses in the New Testament:
• It is translated "assembly" in the ordinary classical sense ( Acts 19:32 Acts 19:39 Acts 19:41 ).
• It denotes the whole body of the redeemed, all those whom the Father has given to Christ, the invisible catholic church ( Ephesians 5:23 Ephesians 5:25 Ephesians 5:27 Ephesians 5:29 ; Hebrews 12:23 ).
• A few Christians associated together in observing the ordinances of the gospel are an ecclesia ( Romans 16:5 ; Colossians 4:15 ).
• All the Christians in a particular city, whether they assembled together in one place or in several places for religious worship, were an ecclesia. Thus all the disciples in Antioch, forming several congregations, were one church ( Acts 13:1 ); so also we read of the "church of God at Corinth" ( 1 Corinthians 1:2 ), "the church at Jerusalem" ( Acts 8:1 ), "the church of Ephesus" ( Revelation 2:1 ), etc.
• The whole body of professing Christians throughout the world ( 1 Corinthians 15:9 ; Galatians 1:13 ; Matthew 16:18 ) are the church of Christ.
The church visible "consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion, together with their children." It is called "visible" because its members are known and its assemblies are public. Here there is a mixture of "wheat and chaff," of saints and sinners. "God has commanded his people to organize themselves into distinct visible ecclesiastical communities, with constitutions, laws, and officers, badges, ordinances, and discipline, for the great purpose of giving visibility to his kingdom, of making known the gospel of that kingdom, and of gathering in all its elect subjects. Each one of these distinct organized communities which is faithful to the great King is an integral part of the visible church, and all together constitute the catholic or universal visible church." A credible profession of the true religion constitutes a person a member of this church. This is "the kingdom of heaven," whose character and progress are set forth in the parables recorded in Matthew 13 .
The children of all who thus profess the true religion are members of the visible church along with their parents. Children are included in every covenant God ever made with man. They go along with their parents ( Genesis 9:9-17 ; 12:1-3 ; 17:7 ; Exodus 20:5 ; Deuteronomy 29:10-13 ). Peter, on the day of Pentecost, at the beginning of the New Testament dispensation, announces the same great principle. "The promise [just as to Abraham and his seed the promises were made] is unto you, and to your children" ( Acts 2:38 Acts 2:39 ). The children of believing parents are "holy", i.e., are "saints", a title which designates the members of the Christian church ( 1 Corinthians 7:14 ). (See BAPTISM .)
The church invisible "consists of the whole number of the elect that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one under Christ, the head thereof." This is a pure society, the church in which Christ dwells. It is the body of Christ. it is called "invisible" because the greater part of those who constitute it are already in heaven or are yet unborn, and also because its members still on earth cannot certainly be distinguished. The qualifications of membership in it are internal and are hidden. It is unseen except by Him who "searches the heart." "The Lord knoweth them that are his" ( 2 Timothy 2:19 ).
The church to which the attributes, prerogatives, and promises appertaining to Christ's kingdom belong, is a spiritual body consisting of all true believers, i.e., the church invisible.
• Its unity. God has ever had only one church on earth. We sometimes speak of the Old Testament Church and of the New Testament church, but they are one and the same. The Old Testament church was not to be changed but enlarged ( Isaiah 49:13-23 ; 60:1-14 ). When the Jews are at length restored, they will not enter a new church, but will be grafted again into "their own olive tree" ( Romans 11:18-24 ; Compare Ephesians 2:11-22 ). The apostles did not set up a new organization. Under their ministry disciples were "added" to the "church" already existing ( Acts 2:47 ).
• Its universality. It is the "catholic" church; not confined to any particular country or outward organization, but comprehending all believers throughout the whole world.
• Its perpetuity. It will continue through all ages to the end of the world. It can never be destroyed. It is an "everlasting kindgdom."
God bless you brother, love your teachings; however I disagree in love concerning this. I only ask that you look at these scriptures: Acts 9: 5 you mentioned above is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 1:13 "how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God."
Look at Galatians 1:22 which confirms without doubt that Paul is speaking about the body of Christ, "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:" If they are in Christ, then they are in His body, just as we are. 2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:"
I don't quote these scriptures as if you don't know, because I do see God's given you much wisdom and knowledge; but to let the verses show the truth. Ephesians 2:20 "And are built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone." This is speaking of the bride of Christ. Revelation 21:14 "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the lamb."
The apostles are apart of the bride,Jesus Christ only has one bride; to be apart of the bride you have to be in the body of Christ. I'm sure you know Genesis 2:24, man and woman becoming one, but look at Genesis 2:21 "and he took one of his ribs and closed the flesh instead thereof." Look at Jesus's death on the cross, John 19:34 "But one of the two soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forwith came there out blood and water." We have redemption by His blood, and the water He gives is the Holy Spirit; therefore, just as Eve came from Adam's side, the bride comes from Jesus Christ's side. This means that those who believed on Jesus Christ after his death and resurrection were the first in the body of Christ; those who believed in the new testament.
1 Corinthians 11 speaks in context about husband and wife, or man and woman: how man is by the woman, and woman is of man; but all things of God." Paul goes on to quote Luke 22:19 and 20 speaking of the new testament. The point is, that the church started with the new testament, which is why you find apostles in the bride of Christ in Revelation 21, and Ephesians 2. Have a blessed night, or day.
Doesn't mean body or Christ
I think we have bigger issue need to address about his second coming ....it's not lining up ....