Looking forward to trying this upgrade, However I would suggest replacing the 18 gauge power cables with a heavier 14 gauge wire. With a 900 watt heating element your getting dangerously close to 18 gauge wire limit. Play it safe and go to 14 gauge.
That would probably be a safe addition to this upgrade. I didn't change my wiring just went with the original but this is a concern that is worthy of considering. Glad you commented this concern so other that make this upgrade can consider that and use your suggestion and upgrade the wiring for the 900 watt element. Safety should always be a major concern. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on this upgrade. I will pin this to the top of the comments so other can make necessary adjustments to their upgrade.
@@PMPBBQ was this "wire upgrade" for the black factory cables to be changed? Or wires internally? I just got my heating element from the states, but now I read this comment and am a bit worried..
Can't tell you how much I appreciate your video on the heating element upgrade to the Bradley smoker. Now I can start enjoying smoking again. Just put in a brisket and it was up to temp. in 15 minutes. Before it would take at least an hour and wouldn't stay at temp.
Made the heating element upgrade today to my 4 rack digital smoker. AMAZING!!!!!! About 1 hour time to upgrade. On my test I got to 280 DEGREES IN 15 MINUTES, 66 degree day. Call me a happy camper. Thanks for the vid PMP!!
Just installed the 900. 84*F outside. No wind. In shade. Hit 300*F at the 15 minute mark. Beyond impressed. Thank you sir. Love it! Before this, highest number ive seen with the original element was 170*F, took two hrs to hit that In 70*F weather. Liked and subscribed!!!
Thanks for the comment and for subscribing. Glad it work for you, a lot of people have issues with the Bradley not heating up. This mod definitely helps with that.
Very great idea, here in Minnesota i have hard time with temp in winter. Love the smoker but the heat issue is a killer!! Love to see more if you do more!!! Thanks for Sharing!!
I done this upgrade and I have to say its impressive. I wasnt ever able to get my Bradley smoker over 225 degrees and once indone the upgrade i was able to hit 250 degrees in 14 mins. Cant wait to start smoking more meats .
Just finished my upgrade. It reached 220 degrees in 15 minutes. I still would be waiting with the factory element. Great video. I'll be forwarding your link to Bradley. Doubt if they will listen though.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm glad it worked out good for you and helped. Yes Bradley is aware of the video but won't change the smoker. They instead came out with a new smoker with a bigger element that cost 3 times as much.
In Southern climates, the 500W element is still not enough. It can get up to temp after a long time, but takes forever to recover after the door is open. Something I found in my OBS when it was new was that the power was dropping completely because of poor contact between the power cord and receptacle on the back. I bent the metal pins in and that made a big difference. I still had to upgrade to the 900W element and use the Auber PID to maintain temp and recover time. With those tweaks, it rocks. If I had it to do over, I would buy another stock element, porcelain Insulators, and an element cover and mount a second stock element right above the one that came with it. That would be a little cleaner tweak.
Yes that's what a few other's have told me also about the second heating element. I just got another 6 rack Bradley digital and I'm thinking of trying that and see how well it works. Thanks for sharing the information.
I bought my first Bradley used just to see if it was something I would be interested in doing before I spent $300 on a smoker. I was unimpressed by the temperature but I reasoned that was because it was REALLY used smoker and figured the heating element was 'tired'. I really liked the Bradley otherwise so I bought a brand new smoker. It had the same issue (but you knew that!). Not wanting to spend even more money on smokers, I just changed my use of it- I use it to cold-smoke (smoke on, heat off) and then finish in the kitchen oven. And I satisfied myself that that gives me better control over when it will be done over a smoker outside where the weather conditions decide if you eat at 5pm or 7pm. Excuse after excuse, I gave the Bradley the benefit of the doubt. Now being that Bradley is in Canada, I cannot for the life of me understand why they would put such a small element in their smoker unless they are trying to meet some safety regulation. I'll be doing this upgrade and I too was concerned not only about the wire gauge but also the rating on the rheostat in the smoke generator that controls the heating element.
Thanks for the comment Trevor, I've been using this smoker with the mod for over a year now and it's used at least once a week, most weeks more than that. So far there have been no issues with the modification. It still heats fast and hold temps no matter how cold or the wind. Good luck and keep us informed on your new smoker my friend.
@@PMPBBQ Great to know. UPS delivered my new Tempco 900w heater today. I pulled a small pork shoulder out of the freezer and I predict it will be dinner tomorrow! Thanks so much for the video showing the upgrade. it literally saved my Bradley's life (the Traeger's at Costco just dropped below $500 for the big tex and I've been eyeballing them). Good luck to you!
I just bought one for the sole purpose of just using it for snack sticks ans sausage. Thank's to you I am now going to do the upgrade. the smoker should be here tomorrow. Thanks
I hope this helps everyone that owns a Bradley smoker. They are good smokers but if Bradley would just fix the one problem with the heating element it would be a great smoker.
Thanks for the video. I just finished the upgrade today. I replaced the wires also with high heat wiring. I also replaced the overtemp thermal switch. I did notice that the foam on back of smoker was burned. When i pulled out the heating element i placed a porcelain tile with spacers to insulate the foam better especially with higher temp element.
@@arirad7207 I personally have not done the upgrade on a non digital unit, but there have been several comments on this video from people who have done it. Hope that helps you.
Yes try it stock first, some people seem to do ok with it stock. But others are like me and never could get it to temperature. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. If you ever have any problems or have questions my email is in the about section here on my channel. Feel free to contact me I'll help any way I can. Thanls again for stopping by and watching.
I just got my Bradley a couple of weeks ago. I am in Canada and have had a very hard time with temperatue. Even with a preheat I can't get the temp past 220. Once food goes in it drops to 180-190. Smoking ribs last week after 3 hours it was still recovering and could not get the temp past 210. I had to finish in the oven. This is something I will for sure look into doing! Especially if I'm going to be doing something significant like brisket.
I had the same issues with my Bradley. During the winter months I just didn't smoke anything using it. Now I can smoke year around no matter the temperature. You'll be glad you made the upgrade for sure. Thanks for the comment and watching the video.
@@PMPBBQSo I got my elemet in yesterday and Installed it. It was about 32 degrees outside and windy. The bradly got up to 280 in about 15 minutes. I had it empty. I put in the 4 racks, drip shild, a cold bowl of water and the water tray. All were at outside temperature. It dropped the temperature to about 210 over the next 5 minutes and 10 minutes later it was back to 280. I can't wait to get some meat in there! You are a lifesaver!
@@davidnetherton3201 That's great, Thanks for the comment. Please keep us updated on how your Bradley is working. The heating element upgrade is the best thing I ever did to my Bradley.
If you bought two weeks ago, I hope you took it back. Nobody should buy Bradley if their conscience is to dis-satisfy customers so brazenly after they know about this worldwide gigantic issue. I have a Bradley 6-rack with the analog controller and have no choice but do this upgrade. If anyone if thinking about Bradley and have not bought yet, forget them as they defined themselves. Get a real green egg and enjoy the real deal.
Thanks so much for the great instructions! My 500w element was dying so I upgraded to this since I had to remove the element anyway. I’m only at the testing stage, haven’t cooked anything yet, but I’m happy so far. Mine takes a little longer to come up to temp than yours. I got to 230 in about 17-22 minutes depending on what temp gauge was more accurate, and then I left the door open about 3 minutes to let it cool to 200 degrees, and inserted my pan of cold water. It only took about 12 minutes to get back to 230. I also turned it up to 280 at that point and got it there in about 17 minutes. All this was with the burner only, no smoke generator on, it looks like yours was on, so mine might have been a little faster if I turned it on too. Did you ever change out your wires? I left mine for now, I think the fuse should protect it from overloading but I’m going to watch it. Where can I get the high temp 14 gauge wiring if needed?
Thank you for this information. I purchased my 6-rack bradley at the end of last year and was sadly disappointed with the heat up time. Had to remove some food and heat it in the house to finish cooking it. Tried pulled pork to christen the smoker. The meat was good but the process was not agreeable. I am excited to try this out and make the smoker what it should be.
You won't be disappointed in the upgrade. It really helps the smoker do what it's supposed to do. Thanks for the comment and keep us updated on the modification to you Bradley.
It does, made my Bradley usable in any weather now. I don't use it as much as I use to since I got the offset smoker and my UDS, but still like to use it for fish, jerky, and of course chili.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the comment. I just wish Bradley would fix this issue, if they did they would own the electric smoker market. Thanks again for watching.
This is interesting, we thought about getting a Bradley smoker but after the reviews my husband had read about the heating problems we bought something else.
Would like to see pic of inside after installing the new element. How the heat shield fits and what it looks like. I live in North Dakota and need this upgrade for my Bradley 6 rack. Thanks. Please post pic of inside
I just performed this upgrade on my 6-rack smart smoker and it’s still unusable. After 2 hrs, I can only get to 188 deg. I’m at a loss as to what could be wrong so I have no choice but to punt $600 and buy another smoker that will actually work.
I just did this mod today and the insulation on the back panel started burning... Gonna get longer bolts to put it away from the back wall a little more. I also am going to cut out a little rectangle of the foam insulation and replacing that spot with fiberglass mat. Hope it helps. I did upgrade my wire to 12 gauge silicone wire (200C rating). I am using a Auburn controller due to my smoker being the turn dial version.
Thanks for the update, I've not heard about the issue with the insulation burning. The upgrade on the wire is a good idea for sure. The Auburn controller is a great addition too. Keep us updated on the progress and again thanks.
@@jharding08 oh boy I don't remember... All I know is it was using probably one extra nut or two to act as spacers just giving the element a little more back wall clearance.
Orlando, FL. Yesterday couldn't get my smoker over 155 and it's flippin Orlando. The element was red hot the entire time. So frustrating. I have no idea what the problem is now after 1.5 years having only used 12 times. Before I replace the wimpy element I'll likely just do this upgrade. Thanks!
It's sad that this issue has gone on for so long, this has been the #1 complaint about the Bradley yet they refuse to address it. I have no idea why as the Bradley smoker is a wonderful smoker other than the heating element. Good luck with the upgrade and if you have any questions please E-mail me. My E-mail address is in the about page on this channel. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
Here’s my response back from Bradley just now. Now I’m researching cheap multi-meters which is something I don’t own but could use... Thank you for contacting Bradley Smoker. If you own a multi-meter, check to ensure that you are getting 120 volts out of the short power cord. You can also check the heat element for resistance. It should test 27-32 ohms. If these both test good, then the issue is probably with the temp sensor. The temp sensor is the little button in the middle of the back wall on the inside of the cabinet (the big box). You can clean that off and see if it helps. For further assistance, contact customer service at 1-866-508-7514. Be sure to have the serial number. We will be closed for the holiday from 12/24 to 12/29 and will be back in the office on 12/30. Hours of operation: 8:00AM to 4:30PM Central.
Also I don’t see how the completely inaccurate sensor since purchase could have anything to do with it. I turn oven to 320 (hahahahaha) and it can’t get close ever. Even in 90+ degree weather in FL.
Installed the heating element and needed to upgrade to ten gauge wire also as the stock wiring was getting too hot. Heats up the smoker great but my thermostat is not working - maybe it never has worked as I never could get temp above 220. Now will get up to over 300. Any ideas on the thermostat? Thank you.
Mark I've never had an issue with my thermostat, and I've not received any comments from anyone about a thermostat issue when doing the upgrade. I would suggest start with cleaning the temp sensor in the cabinet good and see if that helps. Keep us updated on this issue please.
Hi And thanks for the video. I did the upgrade, changed the wiring to the 14G hi temp silicone wire and upgraded the thermofuse. Smoker & new element working well but gets really hot to the point that the insulation in the back of the smoker is showing burn marks and some melt where the element is positioned on the inside. I’m thinking I need to install some kind of a heat shield or reflector inside behind the element. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks for watching and commenting Harvey, I've not noticed that problem on either of mine. Maybe someone else here has ideas for you. I would probably try to find something thin to use as a heat deflector behind the element. You might also see if you can move the element further out away from the rear of the smoker.
Does the new Bradley smart smoker have the same 500 watt element are have they upgraded the element? I can't seem to find the wattage of the element mentioned in any Bradley smart smoker add description.
I see that there are some questions as to what wires I'm upgrading.. I am NOT changing the internal wiring at all.. All I'm changing are the outside cables. Links below. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JT0DGEO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027JRM4E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Sorry for any confusion
i just did this update on my BS611 bradley smoker and it worked when i tried it. got up to 250 with no probleme, but now 3hours later its not eating at all. and the element is cold to the toutch.
Do you think this will work the same way on the Bradly Digital Smoker? I have 2 Bradleys (one at the cabin) and your comment on the heating element is spot on!
Yes Chris it will work on the digital Bradley, that's what I made the upgrade on. Thanks for the comment and watching the video. And welcome to the channel. If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I'm here to help anytime.
@@PMPBBQ I did the upgrade and it works perfectly. Thanks! One addition you should put in the list of items neeed is a new Thermal Fuse for the 14 guage wire. Thanks again!
Anyone know of another smoker that has the same design of using a separate heating element as well a burner for the pellets? Your upgrade is good idea. I would be concerned the box or insulation can handle the additional BTU with damage.
Stan I don't know of another smoker that is built like the Bradley. I have two (2) Bradley smokers, a 4 rack and a 6 rack that I have done upgrades on and have no issues from them and the 4 rack has been used weekly for 3 years now. Hope this helps.
Thanks for watching Randy, This has made my Bradley smoker so much better in the winter here in Wyoming. I've been using my Bradley with this mod for about a year now and have had zero issues with it. Thanks again Randy for stopping by and watching.
Thank you very much for this video. Will be doing this upgrade very soon. Today the Bradley is protected from the wind, it is 45Deg F with no winds blowing and I cannot get the temperature up past 230F once 5 pounds of room temperature pork shoulder and filled the pan with boiling water were added.
Boy am I lost on this. I did the upgrade because I thought heating element was bad. After upgrade still no temp increase. Tested old heating element had 30 ohms right in spec. Any idea on what could be wrong? Wiring seems fine, fuse is good, no codes. Ready to just through this thing away I've used it maybe 20 times and last 5 times have been a headache on temperature control even in 80 degree weather.
@@PMPBBQ 🤣 I literally just tested that and that was the problem. I never thought to look at it because it's never gotten over 260 but ohms don't lie it is shot.
Just got my Bradley smoker and definitely need to do this upgrade as I live in PA. Can you possibly give me some more details on exactly which heating element you purchased on amazon? Perhaps a part number, size, and wattage? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching the video and the comment, there is a link in the description for the exact 900 watt element I used in this upgrade from Amazon. I hope this helps and if I can be of further assistance just let me know.
Pull My Pork BBQ I cannot seem to get the link. I’d really like to order this for my husband. Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. We love your videos btw!
Hello and thank you for your vid! Question... I called to inquire on getting a new burner for free because of warranty and they said they would throw in a new fuse as well... Since we are upgrading from 500w to 900, have you ever had a problem with the fuse blowing because of the higher current flow? Thank you again!
I'm going to try this without a PID, from what I understand the only purpose that one serves is to stop temp swings from going past the temperature target of say 230 degrees up to say 240 then back down to 220 etc, I'm not that concerned about swings at this point, my big prop is I rarely can get the internal temp past 210, which takes everything forever. I should try this without a PID? Thanks for the video and great explanations.
I've been using mine for 4 months now without a PID and have had no issues with it. I also just upgraded my digital 6 rack with dual elements and didn't use a PID. Both are working flawlessly without a PID.
No Mark I've not upgraded my wiring. I've had no problems with the smoker so far. I was wanting to see if there would be any problems with the original wires and so far no issues what so ever. It wouldn't hurt anything if you upgraded the wiring while doing the upgrade if you wanted to and had the wire to do it. If I can help in any way let me know I'll be glad to help. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
Yes, I know a few people that have made this mod on thier original smoker and have had no issues. If I can be of any further assistance please let me know. You can comment here or you can email me at pullmyporkbbq@gmail.com. I'll be happy to help any way I can with your upgrade.
As far as I know it can, I've not heard of anyone that it didn't work for. All your doing is adding a bigger heating element to your smoker. I've personally not made the upgrade on the smoker you ask about. Maybe someone her that has your type of smoker can answer how well it works on the Bradley with slide adjustment.Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi I just did an upgrade to the tempo element but cannot regulate the temp it goes to 280 degrees. Can this be done as when I do lox I like a cold smoke and like to set the temp at 130degrees. Can anyone help.
I've not heard of anyone using insulated bushing, I've not heard of any problems with the installation so far either. I know the post where you attach the wires to the element are insulated though. Thanks for the comment and watching the video.
Hello fromme Germany. Great Video. I would like to do the same Upgrade. But its Not possible to buy this heater Form Germany. Do you know another heater that would works? Or is it possible to install a second bradley heater in this oven to get 1000 Watt? Thanks for your help
Will this work with a Bradley with the slider thermostat control? Do you have to do the wire upgrade, or will it be okay with the original wiring? What wires will you need to replace in the cabinet with upgraded wiring if it has to be done? Thanks for the video! The temperature issue is the reason I very rarely use the Bradley.
I think it will work on that Bradley model. The wiring is in the back. If you take the screws out of the back panel you will see the wires. I didn't replace the wires on mine but if you want to it's not hard. A link to all the parts are in the description of the video including 14 gauge high temperature wire if your wanting to upgrade that too. Thanks for the comment and watching the video. If I can help in any way let me know .
Considering a Bradley Digital 4 rack as a cheap and easy smoker solution. Would be making this upgrade right away. Just curious as to how you or any of your subscribers have found it work out over a period of use? Is it holding up? Any issues to watch for aside from the wire upgrades?
No I've had no issues with mine and I've got over 100 hours of smoking in it. I know someone who made this upgrade several years ago and he's had no issues. There was one person that commented here that made this upgrade on an original Bradley not the digital and said he had fairly wide temp swings.
@@PMPBBQ thanks for the quick reply. I guess I should try it out all "stock" first, but everything I read on these lead me to believe this mod should be done right away. I bet I could make a simple mounting bracket for the new element using the existing mount points so not to require drilling holes, thus protecting the warranty ! Worth a try I think. Keep up the great work on the channel, looking forward to more videos.
Brad White One note I would give you, I just upgraded my element with the recommended 900W on this thread. I pulled ALL the wiring and converted to 14Ga. Will require new crimp terminations if you go that route. If you keep the old 18ga wiring (IMO will be fine, just did it because I had everything). Keep in mind the existing ring terminals on the factory element will not fit over the studs of the 900w element without replacing them with larger gauge terminals so the holes are larger, or try to open up the existing rings with a drill bit or small uni bit. Upon testing my smoker, the starting temp was 85 and was up to 225 in under 10 minutes!! Great upgrade @Pull My Pork BBQ !!
My Bradley six rack is a UK model and the input voltage is 240V, any ideas on upgrading as I am assuming your model is 110V? Thanks for the video, perhaps there is hope yet.
Yes both of mine are 110V, I know someone else was asking about a 240V element on here. I'll check and see if I can locate a 240V element that would work for you.
@Frida Johnson Yes, I have completed the upgrade and did not change any wires or fuses. I calculated the additional load and it is still below 10A. I have only used it a few times but don't anticipate any problems.
Glen hello again, can I ask you how your upgrade to your Bradley has been functioning since your upgrade. I have now after all this time got around to contacting the company you have suggested, and are now awaiting their answer as to the part. Can I also ask you if you did exactly what was shown on the video and where you got the other parts. Thanks again Glen for taking the time to help.
Thanks for watching and the comment Jeff, no I'm still using the original wiring in my Bradley. If I ever do the upgrade on another Bradley I would upgrade the wiring too.
I love Bradley smokers but your the heating element is to small. I live in the northeast and on 70° days it take a least an hour to get the temps into the 250°. I have the smart smoker and on this smoke the Bluetooth range horrible. I have to keep my phone in the kitchen near the smoker with is outside on the back patio about 6 feet from my inside kitchen. So that's 2 things that Bradley has not addressed. There has not been a update on the app in a long time.
@Pull My Pork BBQ you have inspired me.....I am relatively new to smoking and somewhat lazy. I can say I am somewhat disappointed with my Bradley smoker and its inability to heat up quickly, maintain an accurate temperature, and slow (to say the least) recovery time. After watching your video, and reading tons of material I am going to make the following modifications. 1. 1100 watt element (replacing 18 gauge to 14 gauge wire) 2. Auber PID single probe wall mount, model ws 1211, 3. Add an electric pump/sprayer on a timer with stainless tubing (to spray the meat)., and considering putting in a fan. I know this is the lazy mans way but I am so busy with life like the rest of us it just seems the easy way to create great food with minimal amount of work. Any thoughts?
If you're going with an 1100 what element then a PID might be a good addition. The good thing about smoking food is you can always cook it the way YOU like it. Whatever way works best for you is what's important.
What? Really? Why would you do all this when this gentleman has a proven solution for 70ish bucks? You're buying a 30 ton excavator instead of a shovel to put in a few plants. My suggestion is to try this and if you think it doesn't work, spend another 500 to get exactly the same thing. It's called heat. Either you got it or you don't.
Bill thanks for the question, I'm not sure but I think it would be ok to make the upgrade. I know some have made the upgrade on the original Bradley with no issues. I would probably upgrade the wiring just to make sure and it's not that much more in cost and time. The wire to upgrade to us 14 gauge. Both the 14 gauge we ire and element links are in the description of the video for convenients. Thanks for watching the video.
Just completed the swap to the 900 watt element. Took 30 minutes to hit 255 degrees. Does that sound about right. Seems like yours hit that in 9 minutes. I started at 65 degrees.
320 degrees at 59 minutes. From what recall I have never seen it above 250 degrees. Once it hit 320 it spiked at 324 then started to drop temp to 305. Then stated to climb back to 320... any thoughts
I’m gonna run a second test with a shorter extension cord and on a different circuit. Last night I ran it on a circuit with a refrigerator on it and 30 ft extension cord.
I did this mod on my Bradley BS611 4 rack with a rheostat generator and it doesn’t work. Any suggestions? I’ve already checked to inline fuse and it’s good. Do I need to upgrade to a digital generator or a pid?
@@PMPBBQ I found a burnt wire causing high resistance. I replaced all wiring with 12awg high heat wire. Now we’re smoking as intended. This mod is the best thing for a Bradley.
There is no need to upgrade the wire. I will assume Bradley is using High Heat AWG wire, which can carry much more AMPs than standard AWG wire. I will also presume they would use at least 150 degree Celsius (303 degrees Fahrenheit) High Heat wire. Now, there are many grades for this wire BUT they range from 10 amps to 20 amps well with in the range of the 7.5 amps a 900 watt heating element will pull. By the way, standard AWG 18 gauge wire is rated at 7 amps which would have to be upgraded to at least 16 gauge
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The way I hooked mine up was the wire that was on the right side of the original I put on the right side of the new one and the one on the left I put on the left side.
I guess what I meant was is there a positive or negative side to the new element? It looks like I could put it in either way but don’t wanna blow anything out
So I did this upgrade. On my practice run it got up to tpjust fine. On a 50 degree day. Then on thanksgiving I had a heck of a time getting up to temp once turkey and ham were in smoker. Not sure if my thermostat is off?
Hi I did the retro fit with a 900 watt tempco element, no heat, I contacted Bradley and purchased a new temperature control, no heat. I know thwere is power getting to the element because I got a shock when I touched the white wire connection. Help not sure what else to do, have $150 invested into an old BTS1 and still not working.
I would suggest making sure all the connections in the back of the unit are secure. One of mine came loose and I had no power originally. Take them off an put them back on. Also, make sure the plugs are secured. Mine sometimes come loose and then I get no heat from the unit. If all that fails maybe the inline fuse has gone. I blew mine before and everything looks like it works but no heat. You can purchase that from Yard and Pool.
Do you know if this would also work for the non-digital version of the smoker? I have the one with the low-high dial knob, and I'm having temperature issues here in Canada haha
It should, is your temp control adjustable? is it a Bradley original smoker with the dial on it that you can adjust the temperature on? If it is then yes it will work.
@@Beeks2121 Thanks for watching the videos and the compliment. If you have any other questions about the upgrade don't hesitate to ask. I'll help any way I can.
Yes, this tweak does work on the non digital smoke generator. Bradley forums has a thread on it. I have an OBS, and as I mentioned above, instead of the 900W element, I would get a second factory element and porcelain insulators. It would look better. I used the 900W element, but I also got an Auber WSD-1200GPH temp controller. With that element and the Auber, the OBS rocks. I am about to get another and start from scratch with the heat upgrade and rails for more racks.
@@PMPBBQ thanks for the response. Deffinetly going to do this upgrade. Took me 9 hours to smoke a 4lb shoulder the other day at -3°c. Already insulated the outside of the unit a couple years back. Bradley needs to get thier shit together and resolve this themselves.
They aren't going to, they don't want people to know about this upgrade. They just came out with a new smoker for $800 and they want people to buy it instead of upgrading their old Bradley.
After you do the upgrade could you repost here on how well it works. Bradley keeps telling people that in order to make this upgrade you have to also buy a $300 PID which isn't true. They are just trying to keep people from doing this upgrade and buy a new smoker.
Is it the 900 watt element? If it is I'm using the original wires and have had no issues. Some people upgraded theirs to a heavier wire. So the option is yours. If you have the heavier wire it wouldn't hurt to make the change. But I've had the original wire on mine for 8 months now and absolutely no issues. Thanks for the comment and I hope this helps.
Mark thanks for the comment and watching the video. I just used the heat shield to figure out how far out I could mount it and still install the heat shield. Didn't really measure it but I set it out as far as possible from the back and still get the heat shield mounted. Hope this helps.
Hi, Here in the UK im struggling to get a 900w element at a reasonable price, 240v. by the time shipping has been added its working out at 175GBP has anyone upgraded their Bradley in the uk?
I've had several people from the UK ask me for a link to a 240 volt element. I don't know if they have made the upgrade yet. Maybe someone that has can respond and help you.
I checked on Amazon EU and they don't offer the 900 watt element. The only link I can find is for the one from Amazon here in US. I will continue to look and try to find one for you.
@@PMPBBQ Thanks for looking, I like to BBQ and smoke all year round but in the coldest months its not easy. I have found one in the UK but the price is 230GPB. I need someone who is due to fly over to the US to bring me a few back for the UK Bradley Smokers. Loving the you tube channel.
Looking forward to trying this upgrade, However I would suggest replacing the 18 gauge power cables with a heavier 14 gauge wire. With a 900 watt heating element your getting dangerously close to 18 gauge wire limit. Play it safe and go to 14 gauge.
That would probably be a safe addition to this upgrade. I didn't change my wiring just went with the original but this is a concern that is worthy of considering. Glad you commented this concern so other that make this upgrade can consider that and use your suggestion and upgrade the wiring for the 900 watt element. Safety should always be a major concern. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on this upgrade. I will pin this to the top of the comments so other can make necessary adjustments to their upgrade.
@@PMPBBQ was this "wire upgrade" for the black factory cables to be changed? Or wires internally? I just got my heating element from the states, but now I read this comment and am a bit worried..
I took it as Joseph Young was referring to the wires inside the smoker.
@@PMPBBQ that go from the inside of the plug socket to the heating element?
@@Jay-gx8dm thanks for the reply, I thought that's what you were talking about. Clears up the question for others. Thanks again.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate your video on the heating element upgrade to the Bradley smoker. Now I can start enjoying smoking again. Just put in a brisket and it was up to temp. in 15 minutes. Before it would take at least an hour and wouldn't stay at temp.
Made the heating element upgrade today to my 4 rack digital smoker. AMAZING!!!!!! About 1 hour time to upgrade. On my test I got to 280 DEGREES IN 15 MINUTES, 66 degree day. Call me a happy camper. Thanks for the vid PMP!!
Just installed the 900. 84*F outside. No wind. In shade. Hit 300*F at the 15 minute mark. Beyond impressed. Thank you sir. Love it! Before this, highest number ive seen with the original element was 170*F, took two hrs to hit that In 70*F weather. Liked and subscribed!!!
Thanks for the comment and for subscribing. Glad it work for you, a lot of people have issues with the Bradley not heating up. This mod definitely helps with that.
I have been watching some of your older videos and let me tell you...THE THINGS YOU DO with Prime Rib, is amazing!
Thank you so much for stopping by and and watching. I truly appreciate it and the kind words.
Very great idea, here in Minnesota i have hard time with temp in winter. Love the smoker but the heat issue is a killer!! Love to see more if you do more!!! Thanks for Sharing!!
I live in Wyoming and sometimes in winter the Bradley just wouldn't get up to temp. The upgrade fixed that problem. Thanks for watching.
I done this upgrade and I have to say its impressive. I wasnt ever able to get my Bradley smoker over 225 degrees and once indone the upgrade i was able to hit 250 degrees in 14 mins. Cant wait to start smoking more meats .
Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you did the upgrade. Both of mine work flawlessly even in very cold weather. Thanks again for the comment.
Just finished my upgrade. It reached 220 degrees in 15 minutes. I still would be waiting with the factory element. Great video. I'll be forwarding your link to Bradley. Doubt if they will listen though.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm glad it worked out good for you and helped. Yes Bradley is aware of the video but won't change the smoker. They instead came out with a new smoker with a bigger element that cost 3 times as much.
Did this. Bradley smoker finally working like it should have worked to begin with. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment and watching the video. Please keep us updated on how the modification is working for you. Thanks again.
I did the upgrade to my Bradley smoker Oh boy what an improvement Smoked 10 lbs of jerky 25 outside temp no problem 225 preheat 20 minutes
That's great Ken, glad it helped you. Thanks for stopping by and watching. I truly appreciate your support.
In Southern climates, the 500W element is still not enough. It can get up to temp after a long time, but takes forever to recover after the door is open. Something I found in my OBS when it was new was that the power was dropping completely because of poor contact between the power cord and receptacle on the back. I bent the metal pins in and that made a big difference. I still had to upgrade to the 900W element and use the Auber PID to maintain temp and recover time. With those tweaks, it rocks.
If I had it to do over, I would buy another stock element, porcelain Insulators, and an element cover and mount a second stock element right above the one that came with it. That would be a little cleaner tweak.
Yes that's what a few other's have told me also about the second heating element. I just got another 6 rack Bradley digital and I'm thinking of trying that and see how well it works. Thanks for sharing the information.
Brand new to the smoking world I been watching alot of your videos thanks for all the good information
Thanks for stopping by and watching Romeo, I really appreciate your support my friend.
Awesome video, your helping a lot of Bradley owners👍
Thank you so much for the comment.
I bought my first Bradley used just to see if it was something I would be interested in doing before I spent $300 on a smoker. I was unimpressed by the temperature but I reasoned that was because it was REALLY used smoker and figured the heating element was 'tired'. I really liked the Bradley otherwise so I bought a brand new smoker. It had the same issue (but you knew that!). Not wanting to spend even more money on smokers, I just changed my use of it- I use it to cold-smoke (smoke on, heat off) and then finish in the kitchen oven. And I satisfied myself that that gives me better control over when it will be done over a smoker outside where the weather conditions decide if you eat at 5pm or 7pm. Excuse after excuse, I gave the Bradley the benefit of the doubt.
Now being that Bradley is in Canada, I cannot for the life of me understand why they would put such a small element in their smoker unless they are trying to meet some safety regulation.
I'll be doing this upgrade and I too was concerned not only about the wire gauge but also the rating on the rheostat in the smoke generator that controls the heating element.
Thanks for the comment Trevor, I've been using this smoker with the mod for over a year now and it's used at least once a week, most weeks more than that. So far there have been no issues with the modification. It still heats fast and hold temps no matter how cold or the wind. Good luck and keep us informed on your new smoker my friend.
@@PMPBBQ Great to know. UPS delivered my new Tempco 900w heater today. I pulled a small pork shoulder out of the freezer and I predict it will be dinner tomorrow!
Thanks so much for the video showing the upgrade. it literally saved my Bradley's life (the Traeger's at Costco just dropped below $500 for the big tex and I've been eyeballing them). Good luck to you!
Awesome video. I don't understand why Bradley doesn't upgrade their heating elements.
I never could understand myself. Thanks for watching ands commenting my friend.
Excellent video. Can’t wait to upgrade my unit. Many thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting my friend. I really appreciate your support.
I just bought one for the sole purpose of just using it for snack sticks ans sausage. Thank's to you I am now going to do the upgrade. the smoker should be here tomorrow. Thanks
Thats fantastic, glad the video was a help. Thanks for commenting.
I hope this helps everyone that owns a Bradley smoker. They are good smokers but if Bradley would just fix the one problem with the heating element it would be a great smoker.
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Thanks for the video. I just finished the upgrade today. I replaced the wires also with high heat wiring. I also replaced the overtemp thermal switch. I did notice that the foam on back of smoker was burned. When i pulled out the heating element i placed a porcelain tile with spacers to insulate the foam better especially with higher temp element.
Can this be done with the Non Digital Bradley Smoker?
@@arirad7207 I personally have not done the upgrade on a non digital unit, but there have been several comments on this video from people who have done it. Hope that helps you.
I live in Alaska as well as another poster. I’m glad I stumbled upon this. I’m about to buy a 4-rack and will try it stock first.
Yes try it stock first, some people seem to do ok with it stock. But others are like me and never could get it to temperature. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. If you ever have any problems or have questions my email is in the about section here on my channel. Feel free to contact me I'll help any way I can. Thanls again for stopping by and watching.
Hah! My brother is in Anchorage. He introduced me to the smoker.
I just got my Bradley a couple of weeks ago. I am in Canada and have had a very hard time with temperatue. Even with a preheat I can't get the temp past 220. Once food goes in it drops to 180-190. Smoking ribs last week after 3 hours it was still recovering and could not get the temp past 210. I had to finish in the oven.
This is something I will for sure look into doing! Especially if I'm going to be doing something significant like brisket.
I had the same issues with my Bradley. During the winter months I just didn't smoke anything using it. Now I can smoke year around no matter the temperature. You'll be glad you made the upgrade for sure. Thanks for the comment and watching the video.
@@PMPBBQSo I got my elemet in yesterday and Installed it. It was about 32 degrees outside and windy. The bradly got up to 280 in about 15 minutes. I had it empty. I put in the 4 racks, drip shild, a cold bowl of water and the water tray. All were at outside temperature. It dropped the temperature to about 210 over the next 5 minutes and 10 minutes later it was back to 280. I can't wait to get some meat in there! You are a lifesaver!
@@davidnetherton3201 That's great, Thanks for the comment. Please keep us updated on how your Bradley is working. The heating element upgrade is the best thing I ever did to my Bradley.
Please share this video with all your friends that have a Bradley smoker so they will know the fix for heating issue problems. Thanks again.
If you bought two weeks ago, I hope you took it back. Nobody should buy Bradley if their conscience is to dis-satisfy customers so brazenly after they know about this worldwide gigantic issue. I have a Bradley 6-rack with the analog controller and have no choice but do this upgrade. If anyone if thinking about Bradley and have not bought yet, forget them as they defined themselves. Get a real green egg and enjoy the real deal.
Thanks so much for the great instructions! My 500w element was dying so I upgraded to this since I had to remove the element anyway. I’m only at the testing stage, haven’t cooked anything yet, but I’m happy so far. Mine takes a little longer to come up to temp than yours. I got to 230 in about 17-22 minutes depending on what temp gauge was more accurate, and then I left the door open about 3 minutes to let it cool to 200 degrees, and inserted my pan of cold water. It only took about 12 minutes to get back to 230. I also turned it up to 280 at that point and got it there in about 17 minutes. All this was with the burner only, no smoke generator on, it looks like yours was on, so mine might have been a little faster if I turned it on too. Did you ever change out your wires? I left mine for now, I think the fuse should protect it from overloading but I’m going to watch it. Where can I get the high temp 14 gauge wiring if needed?
I just did this upgrade! 320 degrees F in 17 minutes! My smoker never got past 150!!!
Thank you for this information. I purchased my 6-rack bradley at the end of last year and was sadly disappointed with the heat up time. Had to remove some food and heat it in the house to finish cooking it. Tried pulled pork to christen the smoker. The meat was good but the process was not agreeable. I am excited to try this out and make the smoker what it should be.
You won't be disappointed in the upgrade. It really helps the smoker do what it's supposed to do. Thanks for the comment and keep us updated on the modification to you Bradley.
Thanks - did this on my 6 rack - I won't be throwing it out now,.......
Thanks for stopping by and watching Clint, glad it helped.
No issue with your smoke after 1 year?
I’m about to covert mine here in Virginia.
Thanks for the video. So useful
Awesome upgrade.. Seems to work really good.
It does, made my Bradley usable in any weather now. I don't use it as much as I use to since I got the offset smoker and my UDS, but still like to use it for fish, jerky, and of course chili.
I like your sass, I live in Alberta and have the same problem. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the comment. I just wish Bradley would fix this issue, if they did they would own the electric smoker market. Thanks again for watching.
Chris, have you done the upgrade, where did you get your heating element from and how much.
You are a genius, sir!!!
Thank you for stopping by and watching and for the kind words.
This is interesting, we thought about getting a Bradley smoker but after the reviews my husband had read about the heating problems we bought something else.
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Would like to see pic of inside after installing the new element. How the heat shield fits and what it looks like. I live in North Dakota and need this upgrade for my Bradley 6 rack. Thanks. Please post pic of inside
Another awesome video!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks Anthony, your a fantastic friend.
I just performed this upgrade on my 6-rack smart smoker and it’s still unusable. After 2 hrs, I can only get to 188 deg. I’m at a loss as to what could be wrong so I have no choice but to punt $600 and buy another smoker that will actually work.
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Much love for your videos from New Zealand
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I just did this mod today and the insulation on the back panel started burning... Gonna get longer bolts to put it away from the back wall a little more. I also am going to cut out a little rectangle of the foam insulation and replacing that spot with fiberglass mat. Hope it helps. I did upgrade my wire to 12 gauge silicone wire (200C rating). I am using a Auburn controller due to my smoker being the turn dial version.
Thanks for the update, I've not heard about the issue with the insulation burning. The upgrade on the wire is a good idea for sure. The Auburn controller is a great addition too. Keep us updated on the progress and again thanks.
My insulation started burning too. What size bolts did you wind up using and how did it sit from the back ? Did it help?
@@jharding08 oh boy I don't remember... All I know is it was using probably one extra nut or two to act as spacers just giving the element a little more back wall clearance.
@@jharding08 but I ended up just replacing a large portion of the foam insulation with fiberglass fabric from autozone. Works fantastic.
Upgrade my Bradley! Would love to get this baby into my Bradley smoker!
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Orlando, FL. Yesterday couldn't get my smoker over 155 and it's flippin Orlando. The element was red hot the entire time. So frustrating. I have no idea what the problem is now after 1.5 years having only used 12 times. Before I replace the wimpy element I'll likely just do this upgrade. Thanks!
It's sad that this issue has gone on for so long, this has been the #1 complaint about the Bradley yet they refuse to address it. I have no idea why as the Bradley smoker is a wonderful smoker other than the heating element. Good luck with the upgrade and if you have any questions please E-mail me. My E-mail address is in the about page on this channel. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
Here’s my response back from Bradley just now. Now I’m researching cheap multi-meters which is something I don’t own but could use...
Thank you for contacting Bradley Smoker. If you own a multi-meter, check to ensure that you are getting 120 volts out of the short power cord. You can also check the heat element for resistance. It should test 27-32 ohms. If these both test good, then the issue is probably with the temp sensor. The temp sensor is the little button in the middle of the back wall on the inside of the cabinet (the big box). You can clean that off and see if it helps. For further assistance, contact customer service at 1-866-508-7514. Be sure to have the serial number.
We will be closed for the holiday from 12/24 to 12/29 and will be back in the office on 12/30. Hours of operation: 8:00AM to 4:30PM Central.
Also I don’t see how the completely inaccurate sensor since purchase could have anything to do with it. I turn oven to 320 (hahahahaha) and it can’t get close ever. Even in 90+ degree weather in FL.
Installed the heating element and needed to upgrade to ten gauge wire also as the stock wiring was getting too hot. Heats up the smoker great but my thermostat is not working - maybe it never has worked as I never could get temp above 220. Now will get up to over 300. Any ideas on the thermostat? Thank you.
Mark I've never had an issue with my thermostat, and I've not received any comments from anyone about a thermostat issue when doing the upgrade. I would suggest start with cleaning the temp sensor in the cabinet good and see if that helps. Keep us updated on this issue please.
Mark Kottmeyer are you talking about the wires that tie to the element or the wires behind the isolation in the back?
Thanks
Hi And thanks for the video. I did the upgrade, changed the wiring to the 14G hi temp silicone wire and upgraded the thermofuse. Smoker & new element working well but gets really hot to the point that the insulation in the back of the smoker is showing burn marks and some melt where the element is positioned on the inside. I’m thinking I need to install some kind of a heat shield or reflector inside behind the element. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks for watching and commenting Harvey, I've not noticed that problem on either of mine. Maybe someone else here has ideas for you. I would probably try to find something thin to use as a heat deflector behind the element. You might also see if you can move the element further out away from the rear of the smoker.
Does the new Bradley smart smoker have the same 500 watt element are have they upgraded the element? I can't seem to find the wattage of the element mentioned in any Bradley smart smoker add description.
From what I've read it has the same 500 watt heating element as the previous models
I see that there are some questions as to what wires I'm upgrading..
I am NOT changing the internal wiring at all.. All I'm changing are the outside cables.
Links below.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JT0DGEO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027JRM4E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sorry for any confusion
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, for some reason it put your comment in spam and I just found it. Did the new wires work?
i just did this update on my BS611 bradley smoker and it worked when i tried it. got up to 250 with no probleme, but now 3hours later its not eating at all. and the element is cold to the toutch.
You might have blown the thermal fuse. Too much heat. Happened to me. Move the heating element further away from the back wall.
Brilliant! Great job.
Thanks for stopping by and watching, and thanks for the comment too.
Do you think this will work the same way on the Bradly Digital Smoker? I have 2 Bradleys (one at the cabin) and your comment on the heating element is spot on!
Yes Chris it will work on the digital Bradley, that's what I made the upgrade on. Thanks for the comment and watching the video. And welcome to the channel. If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I'm here to help anytime.
@@PMPBBQ Thanks!
@@PMPBBQ I did the upgrade and it works perfectly. Thanks! One addition you should put in the list of items neeed is a new Thermal Fuse for the 14 guage wire. Thanks again!
Anyone know of another smoker that has the same design of using a separate heating element as well a burner for the pellets?
Your upgrade is good idea. I would be concerned the box or insulation can handle the additional BTU with damage.
Stan I don't know of another smoker that is built like the Bradley. I have two (2) Bradley smokers, a 4 rack and a 6 rack that I have done upgrades on and have no issues from them and the 4 rack has been used weekly for 3 years now. Hope this helps.
How do you know where to drill the holes? And is that firewall on back glued in or is it easily removed?
Janice I just used the heating element to know where to drill the holes. Held it just high enough that the heat shield would fit under it.
Thanks for the tip
Thanks for stopping by and watching Aaron, I truly appreciate it.
Any updates on how that smoker is running?
Where did you get the bigger heating element from?
From Amazon, there is a link for it in the description of the video. Thanks for watching.
really good idea will be doing this thanks
Thanks for watching Randy, This has made my Bradley smoker so much better in the winter here in Wyoming. I've been using my Bradley with this mod for about a year now and have had zero issues with it. Thanks again Randy for stopping by and watching.
Thank you very much for this video. Will be doing this upgrade very soon. Today the Bradley is protected from the wind, it is 45Deg F with no winds blowing and I cannot get the temperature up past 230F once 5 pounds of room temperature pork shoulder and filled the pan with boiling water were added.
I tried it works perfect thanks for the tips..
Boy am I lost on this. I did the upgrade because I thought heating element was bad. After upgrade still no temp increase. Tested old heating element had 30 ohms right in spec. Any idea on what could be wrong? Wiring seems fine, fuse is good, no codes. Ready to just through this thing away I've used it maybe 20 times and last 5 times have been a headache on temperature control even in 80 degree weather.
I think I would check the temp sensor in the back of the cabinet. That would be my next guess
@@PMPBBQ 🤣 I literally just tested that and that was the problem. I never thought to look at it because it's never gotten over 260 but ohms don't lie it is shot.
You Crimp ring wire connectors; link goes to a dead Amazon item. What are the specs?
I just checked the link in the description of the video for the tempco heating element and it worked. Thanks for the question and hope this helps.
Thanks!
I installed mine last night and for some reason i am not getting any heat. Any thoughts
Just got my Bradley smoker and definitely need to do this upgrade as I live in PA. Can you possibly give me some more details on exactly which heating element you purchased on amazon? Perhaps a part number, size, and wattage? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching the video and the comment, there is a link in the description for the exact 900 watt element I used in this upgrade from Amazon. I hope this helps and if I can be of further assistance just let me know.
Pull My Pork BBQ I cannot seem to get the link. I’d really like to order this for my husband. Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. We love your videos btw!
@@monicaschultz4826 Here is the link for the exact heating element I used. Tempco 900 watt heating element link: amzn.to/2ErARJR
@@PMPBBQ do I need to change my wires to 14 gauge wire or is the standard Bradley smoker wires already in it ok to use ?
Very helpful! Gonna give it a try. Frisco Fat Cook
Thanks for watching and the comment. Sorry for the late reply for some reason youtube put this reply in the spam and i just found it.
Hello and thank you for your vid! Question... I called to inquire on getting a new burner for free because of warranty and they said they would throw in a new fuse as well... Since we are upgrading from 500w to 900, have you ever had a problem with the fuse blowing because of the higher current flow? Thank you again!
no I've not had any problem with the upgrade at all.
I'm going to try this without a PID, from what I understand the only purpose that one serves is to stop temp swings from going past the temperature target of say 230 degrees up to say 240 then back down to 220 etc, I'm not that concerned about swings at this point, my big prop is I rarely can get the internal temp past 210, which takes everything forever. I should try this without a PID? Thanks for the video and great explanations.
I've been using mine for 4 months now without a PID and have had no issues with it. I also just upgraded my digital 6 rack with dual elements and didn't use a PID. Both are working flawlessly without a PID.
Have you upgraded your wiring since this video. I am about ready to do this upgrade and I'd like to do it all once and be done with it. Thx.
No Mark I've not upgraded my wiring. I've had no problems with the smoker so far. I was wanting to see if there would be any problems with the original wires and so far no issues what so ever. It wouldn't hurt anything if you upgraded the wiring while doing the upgrade if you wanted to and had the wire to do it. If I can help in any way let me know I'll be glad to help. Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
@@PMPBBQ I'm not sure what I'll do about the wiring. I'm not sure about how to do the thermal fuse. thanks for the info.
This will work on an original 4 rack as well?
Yes, I know a few people that have made this mod on thier original smoker and have had no issues. If I can be of any further assistance please let me know. You can comment here or you can email me at pullmyporkbbq@gmail.com. I'll be happy to help any way I can with your upgrade.
Can this be done on the original Bradley smoker with the slide rheostat on the front of the smoker
As far as I know it can, I've not heard of anyone that it didn't work for. All your doing is adding a bigger heating element to your smoker. I've personally not made the upgrade on the smoker you ask about. Maybe someone her that has your type of smoker can answer how well it works on the Bradley with slide adjustment.Thanks for watching and commenting.
Upgrade my Bradley thanks for the great info
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I live in Alaska and it's hard to heat up the smoker in the winter.
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My brother is in Anchorage (where I grew up). He’s the reason I purchased after I smoked a ton of salmon in it.
Hi I just did an upgrade to the tempo element but cannot regulate the temp it goes to 280 degrees. Can this be done as when I do lox I like a cold smoke and like to set the temp at 130degrees. Can anyone help.
Has anyone installed insulating bushings? My slight worry is that the element is live and is connected to the case by metal bolts. Thanks!
I've not heard of anyone using insulated bushing, I've not heard of any problems with the installation so far either. I know the post where you attach the wires to the element are insulated though. Thanks for the comment and watching the video.
What's the part number for the Tempco? lots of different ones out there.
Dwayne here is the link to Amazon for the correct Tempco element amzn.to/3rSyFnN
Hello fromme Germany.
Great Video.
I would like to do the same Upgrade. But its Not possible to buy this heater Form Germany.
Do you know another heater that would works?
Or is it possible to install a second bradley heater in this oven to get 1000 Watt?
Thanks for your help
Link for element does not work. Can you update the info please. Deff need this upgrade.
Thanks for letting me know that the link no longer works. I have updated all the links and it now works. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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Will this work with a Bradley with the slider thermostat control? Do you have to do the wire upgrade, or will it be okay with the original wiring? What wires will you need to replace in the cabinet with upgraded wiring if it has to be done? Thanks for the video! The temperature issue is the reason I very rarely use the Bradley.
I think it will work on that Bradley model. The wiring is in the back. If you take the screws out of the back panel you will see the wires. I didn't replace the wires on mine but if you want to it's not hard. A link to all the parts are in the description of the video including 14 gauge high temperature wire if your wanting to upgrade that too. Thanks for the comment and watching the video. If I can help in any way let me know .
@@PMPBBQ Thanks! Pretty sure I can put in the heater, the wiring not so much with replacing connectors and such.
Considering a Bradley Digital 4 rack as a cheap and easy smoker solution. Would be making this upgrade right away. Just curious as to how you or any of your subscribers have found it work out over a period of use? Is it holding up? Any issues to watch for aside from the wire upgrades?
No I've had no issues with mine and I've got over 100 hours of smoking in it. I know someone who made this upgrade several years ago and he's had no issues. There was one person that commented here that made this upgrade on an original Bradley not the digital and said he had fairly wide temp swings.
If you buy your Bradley new I wouldn't make this upgrade until it's out of warranty.
@@PMPBBQ thanks for the quick reply. I guess I should try it out all "stock" first, but everything I read on these lead me to believe this mod should be done right away. I bet I could make a simple mounting bracket for the new element using the existing mount points so not to require drilling holes, thus protecting the warranty ! Worth a try I think.
Keep up the great work on the channel, looking forward to more videos.
Brad White One note I would give you, I just upgraded my element with the recommended 900W on this thread. I pulled ALL the wiring and converted to 14Ga. Will require new crimp terminations if you go that route.
If you keep the old 18ga wiring (IMO will be fine, just did it because I had everything). Keep in mind the existing ring terminals on the factory element will not fit over the studs of the 900w element without replacing them with larger gauge terminals so the holes are larger, or try to open up the existing rings with a drill bit or small uni bit.
Upon testing my smoker, the starting temp was 85 and was up to 225 in under 10 minutes!! Great upgrade @Pull My Pork BBQ !!
@@Moskoni77 I have no problem crimping/terminating new wires. Would absolutely take that extra step.
Which model did you use of the TEMPCO Finned Strip Heater?
I'm not sure of the model number but there is a link to the heating element that was used in the upgrade.
My Bradley six rack is a UK model and the input voltage is 240V, any ideas on upgrading as I am assuming your model is 110V? Thanks for the video, perhaps there is hope yet.
Yes both of mine are 110V, I know someone else was asking about a 240V element on here. I'll check and see if I can locate a 240V element that would work for you.
Here is a link to a 240V element that would work; amzn.to/2ZBpExW
Hi Hugh, the Tempco part number for the 240V equivalent of this heater is 'CSF00132'. The UK distributor is www.pneutherm.co.uk .
@Frida Johnson Yes, I have completed the upgrade and did not change any wires or fuses. I calculated the additional load and it is still below 10A. I have only used it a few times but don't anticipate any problems.
Glen hello again, can I ask you how your upgrade to your Bradley has been functioning since your upgrade. I have now after all this time got around to contacting the company you have suggested, and are now awaiting their answer as to the part. Can I also ask you if you did exactly what was shown on the video and where you got the other parts. Thanks again Glen for taking the time to help.
Have you changed the wiring to 14 gage since you did this
Thanks for watching and the comment Jeff, no I'm still using the original wiring in my Bradley. If I ever do the upgrade on another Bradley I would upgrade the wiring too.
I love Bradley smokers but your the heating element is to small. I live in the northeast and on 70° days it take a least an hour to get the temps into the 250°. I have the smart smoker and on this smoke the Bluetooth range horrible. I have to keep my phone in the kitchen near the smoker with is outside on the back patio about 6 feet from my inside kitchen. So that's 2 things that Bradley has not addressed. There has not been a update on the app in a long time.
Thanks for stopping by and watching. Yes Bradley does need to fix the issues with their smokers.
Hi there. Is this upgrade available from Amazon? Thanks
Yes there is a link for the heating element in the description.
@Pull My Pork BBQ you have inspired me.....I am relatively new to smoking and somewhat lazy. I can say I am somewhat disappointed with my Bradley smoker and its inability to heat up quickly, maintain an accurate temperature, and slow (to say the least) recovery time. After watching your video, and reading tons of material I am going to make the following modifications. 1. 1100 watt element (replacing 18 gauge to 14 gauge wire) 2. Auber PID single probe wall mount, model ws 1211, 3. Add an electric pump/sprayer on a timer with stainless tubing (to spray the meat)., and considering putting in a fan. I know this is the lazy mans way but I am so busy with life like the rest of us it just seems the easy way to create great food with minimal amount of work. Any thoughts?
actually do you think i would need a pid with the increased element size?
If you're going with an 1100 what element then a PID might be a good addition. The good thing about smoking food is you can always cook it the way YOU like it. Whatever way works best for you is what's important.
What? Really? Why would you do all this when this gentleman has a proven solution for 70ish bucks? You're buying a 30 ton excavator instead of a shovel to put in a few plants. My suggestion is to try this and if you think it doesn't work, spend another 500 to get exactly the same thing. It's called heat. Either you got it or you don't.
I have an older Bradley with a slice temp control on the bottom. Would this be ok or would the current draw be too much for this style?
Bill thanks for the question, I'm not sure but I think it would be ok to make the upgrade. I know some have made the upgrade on the original Bradley with no issues. I would probably upgrade the wiring just to make sure and it's not that much more in cost and time. The wire to upgrade to us 14 gauge. Both the 14 gauge we ire and element links are in the description of the video for convenients. Thanks for watching the video.
@@PMPBBQ Thanks. I'm going to give it a try. Have to wait until it warms up a bit tho. A little cold up here in Canada in the west right now. lol
Just completed the swap to the 900 watt element. Took 30 minutes to hit 255 degrees. Does that sound about right. Seems like yours hit that in 9 minutes. I started at 65 degrees.
290 degrees at 43 minutes
320 degrees at 59 minutes. From what recall I have never seen it above 250 degrees. Once it hit 320 it spiked at 324 then started to drop temp to 305. Then stated to climb back to 320... any thoughts
Mine was a little faster, but still got there much faster than the original element I'm sure.
I’m gonna run a second test with a shorter extension cord and on a different circuit. Last night I ran it on a circuit with a refrigerator on it and 30 ft extension cord.
I did this upgrade tonight. And my smoker heats up nice and quick.... but it gets way to hot. If I set it at 120 it gets hotter then 240 please help!
The heating element is on 120 V only ? I have a 230 v version
Yes this heating element is 120 volt.
Where can I get a element like that in the bald prairies of sask?
I did this mod on my Bradley BS611 4 rack with a rheostat generator and it doesn’t work. Any suggestions? I’ve already checked to inline fuse and it’s good. Do I need to upgrade to a digital generator or a pid?
Mike, both of my Bradley's are digital, I'm sure someone here that has the same Bradley as you can help with your issue.
@@PMPBBQ I found a burnt wire causing high resistance. I replaced all wiring with 12awg high heat wire. Now we’re smoking as intended. This mod is the best thing for a Bradley.
UPGRADED MY BRADLEY
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There is no need to upgrade the wire. I will assume Bradley is using High Heat AWG wire, which can carry much more AMPs than standard AWG wire. I will also presume they would use at least 150 degree Celsius (303 degrees Fahrenheit) High Heat wire. Now, there are many grades for this wire BUT they range from 10 amps to 20 amps well with in the range of the 7.5 amps a 900 watt heating element will pull. By the way, standard AWG 18 gauge wire is rated at 7 amps which would have to be upgraded to at least 16 gauge
I did the upgrade and my temp keeps climbing what did I do wrong?
Where can you buy the heating element you used in this video?
Here is the link to Amazon where I bought mine; Tempco 900 watt heating element link: amzn.to/2Tkh6Nr
Thanks for the link. I couldn’t find it
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Dose it matter what wire goes to what a certain side of the new element?
The way I hooked mine up was the wire that was on the right side of the original I put on the right side of the new one and the one on the left I put on the left side.
I guess what I meant was is there a positive or negative side to the new element? It looks like I could put it in either way but don’t wanna blow anything out
No I don't think it makes a difference.
So I did this upgrade. On my practice run it got up to tpjust fine. On a 50 degree day. Then on thanksgiving I had a heck of a time getting up to temp once turkey and ham were in smoker. Not sure if my thermostat is off?
@@timalbrecht4408 I would check the temp sensor in the smoker to make sure it's working properly.
Hi I did the retro fit with a 900 watt tempco element, no heat, I contacted Bradley and purchased a new temperature control, no heat. I know thwere is power getting to the element because I got a shock when I touched the white wire connection. Help not sure what else to do, have $150 invested into an old BTS1 and still not working.
I would suggest making sure all the connections in the back of the unit are secure. One of mine came loose and I had no power originally. Take them off an put them back on. Also, make sure the plugs are secured. Mine sometimes come loose and then I get no heat from the unit. If all that fails maybe the inline fuse has gone. I blew mine before and everything looks like it works but no heat. You can purchase that from Yard and Pool.
Do you know if this would also work for the non-digital version of the smoker? I have the one with the low-high dial knob, and I'm having temperature issues here in Canada haha
It should, is your temp control adjustable? is it a Bradley original smoker with the dial on it that you can adjust the temperature on? If it is then yes it will work.
@@PMPBBQ Yeah, it's got the turn-dial temp adjuster. Thanks for doing this video - and all your videos. I love it!
@@Beeks2121 Thanks for watching the videos and the compliment. If you have any other questions about the upgrade don't hesitate to ask. I'll help any way I can.
Yes, this tweak does work on the non digital smoke generator. Bradley forums has a thread on it. I have an OBS, and as I mentioned above, instead of the 900W element, I would get a second factory element and porcelain insulators. It would look better. I used the 900W element, but I also got an Auber WSD-1200GPH temp controller. With that element and the Auber, the OBS rocks. I am about to get another and start from scratch with the heat upgrade and rails for more racks.
sadly that heating element is no longer available on amazon
I just checked the link in the description for Amazon and it shows in stock and ready to ship.
I’m in Canada and right now it is 15°C or 59°F and my Bradley 4 rack can’t make 225° inside my garage. Such bullshit indeed
Does it matter which end the positive and negative wires go to on the heating element? Or is the polarity reversible?
Makes no difference which way you hook the wires up
@@PMPBBQ thanks for the response. Deffinetly going to do this upgrade. Took me 9 hours to smoke a 4lb shoulder the other day at -3°c. Already insulated the outside of the unit a couple years back. Bradley needs to get thier shit together and resolve this themselves.
They aren't going to, they don't want people to know about this upgrade. They just came out with a new smoker for $800 and they want people to buy it instead of upgrading their old Bradley.
After you do the upgrade could you repost here on how well it works. Bradley keeps telling people that in order to make this upgrade you have to also buy a $300 PID which isn't true. They are just trying to keep people from doing this upgrade and buy a new smoker.
@@PMPBBQ what is a PID?
I bought a 1200 degree heating element do I need to change out my wires on my smoker or is this ok to use with the standard Bradley smoker wires?
Is it the 900 watt element? If it is I'm using the original wires and have had no issues. Some people upgraded theirs to a heavier wire. So the option is yours. If you have the heavier wire it wouldn't hurt to make the change. But I've had the original wire on mine for 8 months now and absolutely no issues. Thanks for the comment and I hope this helps.
One more question. I can't quite tell from the video how much space you allow for between the back of the cabinet and the heating element?
Mark thanks for the comment and watching the video. I just used the heat shield to figure out how far out I could mount it and still install the heat shield. Didn't really measure it but I set it out as far as possible from the back and still get the heat shield mounted. Hope this helps.
Hi, Here in the UK im struggling to get a 900w element at a reasonable price, 240v. by the time shipping has been added its working out at 175GBP has anyone upgraded their Bradley in the uk?
I've had several people from the UK ask me for a link to a 240 volt element. I don't know if they have made the upgrade yet. Maybe someone that has can respond and help you.
David Kaye also here in the UK looking for it. If you find one, let me know. Desperate to upgrade the element.
I checked on Amazon EU and they don't offer the 900 watt element. The only link I can find is for the one from Amazon here in US. I will continue to look and try to find one for you.
@@PMPBBQ Thanks for looking, I like to BBQ and smoke all year round but in the coldest months its not easy. I have found one in the UK but the price is 230GPB. I need someone who is due to fly over to the US to bring me a few back for the UK Bradley Smokers. Loving the you tube channel.
Hi David, the Tempco part number for the 240V equivalent of this heater is 'CSF00132'. The UK distributor is www.pneutherm.co.uk .
I have a digital Bradley smoker. Would I need a PID controller or will the stock digital one work?
Re-watched the video and you clearly stared you don’t need one. Whoops. Great video and thank you!
Will this upgrade still work if my Bradley doesn't have the digital display? It just has a dial from low to high. Thanks
Yes
will this work on a non digital smoker
Thanks for stopping by and watching the video, I truly appreciate it. Yes a lot of people have made the upgrade on the Bradley Original smoker.