He was 20+ and she was 12. The abuse went on for years. It is not inappropriate sexual relationship. It was and is child molestation. He is a child molester.
My thing is anytime people are chasing after a leader for that many years to try to get them removed from power it says more about that person than it does about the leader. Remind me of the whole international House of prayer time the people that was involved with removing my vehicle I know had allegations against them for years for the very same thing they tried to get my vehicle removed from and my understanding it that they turn on my vehicle because they was about to get exposed. I don't think it's quite the same thing in this situation but a lot of the time the people who go chasing to remove a patch or the heart is a lot of times they got stuff in their closet and they're trying to steer the blame over towards somebody else. Also I found most of the people on social media and long before social media on the website that are the most critical of pastors in general a lot of them are guilty of the very same thing they bash preachers and leaders for doing.
Preach! His downplaying it shows no sense of responsibility for his actions. Just wants to get people to stop talking about it which also means we shouldn’t be surprised if she was not the only one. I hope any other victims come forward. Yet another wolf in sheep’s clothing!
This is TX they lifted the statue of limitation. If it happened in Collin county they DA better do something. His whole new campaign is sex traffic and underage SA.
@@marygarrett9724 He has admitted to it publicly. I would suggest people listen to Remnant Radio’s interview with Julie Roys. I’ve been a Christian for decades and it saddens me that churches are more interested in “restoring” their people back to the pulpit. They hired the same law firm as other churches have, to control the narrative, do damage control. It’s right on their web page. Robert has an early retirement but he’s still controlling things. How anyone would stay there is beyond me.
@@HisPresence2024 yes, because the leadership is part of the problem. They’re hiding the truth, or buried their head in the sand. They’re very selective in their wording. They allowed Mr. Morris to use his criminal act to be the victim or cash in on his poor judgment when in fact he’s a child molester. Their true concern is for them with an apology to Cindy. They should truly listen to God. What if God wants them to sell that mega multi million dollar stadium and truly help victims. They allowed Morris to resign when they should’ve been transparent and fired him. That would show true leadership.
@@HisPresence2024 the leadership is part of the problem and letting money rule their lives. They either knew the truth and hid it or didn’t look hard enough. I’ve seen this happen before. Are they listening to God or being ruled by money. They’re apologizing but what if God is telling them the leadership to close the church and use the funds to help victims.
@@sherronhardin2127 for years the leadership more than likely knew about this. Peel the scab off and let it heal. They clearly are saving their own butts for the money. Why not pray for God’s direction and what if God said sell the church and use the money for sexual abuse victims. People who give to a multi million mega church need to examine their own intentions too.
“I was involved in….” “This behavior happened” Note the use of passive voice to avoid taking responsibility. Also “young lady” where he should have said “12 year old child.”
Let He or She who has no sin cast the first stone. Morris knows in his heart wether or not he has truly repented. God knows all things, imparts righteousness and mercy. Let's pray for the victim and for Robert.
You are absolutely right! However, Morris’ account of what happened and the way he downplayed it suggests he is not truly repentant. He molested a child, not having a consensual relationship with a young lady as he put it. I understand that no one would willingly self-incriminate, but his book and the numerous preachings where he talked about this incident are callous because they retraumatize the victim. Perhaps if he had just kept quiet about the incident, the victim would have healed faster. Anyways, I’m full of sin, so I’m not casting stones and won’t be praying for Robert. My prayers remain with the victim.
I pray he truly repents. I pray Cindy receives the justice she deserves. I pray for his children, their spouses, and their children - according to his son-in-law his daughter thought he had an affair, but she did not know he had molested a child. I pray for the people that attend Gateway. I pray for all involved.
We need to pray for discernment and to understand human nature. RM was married to a nice looking young woman. He is just a pervert. He can't stop himself, he has taught that even God cannot control the male urges. He's a liar, a pervert, a money oriented wolf in shepherd's clothing. A lover of himself only, having the appearance of Godliness but denying the Power of God to be able to transform a sinner.
Why is all this coming out right now? Why did the IT guy wait so long to speak out? Retaliation? Why did the dad let him off so lightly? Was he paid to shut up? Why did she set a price to be quiet? Then say it's not about the money?
He confessed of inappropriate 10 years ago, he should have stepped down 10 years ago. Psalms 118:8 “It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.”
I hope there aren’t others. Praying for everyone involved. I also have been abused by people who claimed to serve and love God as a child. I hope Cindy can forgive and not poison herself with this horrible event. I’m so sry this happened to you. ❤
IMO Her parents need to be charged. Cindy has repeatley wanted money, she quoted a scripture on her interview which i find disturbing she hasnt found God, she threatend he pay her or else. She was 12 and it went on for 5 years she was 17? Sound a little sus, she question her parents and he sought councel what was his results from counceling. I dont think he should be charged. He was forgiven by all at that time but she wants money now sounds weird to me. She needs to find God and forgiveness, isnt that what the buble says? Why does she need money
"Why does she need money". 2020 divorce and trying to keep paying her mortgage on her $800K+ home. As a Realtor, trying to make money today must be quite difficult. Average Americans cannot afford mortgages anymore. Thank Bidenflation for that.
Oh my word you want money why she don't tell the public she wants money to keep quite oh my word what do you do in a situation like this bringing the gospel of jesus he already died for us what more you'll want he coming again you'll better repent and stay repented before he comes
@@caroletta451It occurred in both Texas and Oklahoma. It's expired in Oklahoma, but I searched Texas Statutes of limitations and it doesn't appear to expire if a minor is SAed?
@@caroletta451 I think as it stands that although the law was changed in Texas, it may not be retroactive. In some States it is, and her lawyer is working to have that changed. I was thinking the church also had responsibilities when she reported to them. Maybe she has a lawsuit to go after the church for restoration? I'm hoping now that they are investigating, they will do the right thing by her.
@@laurykristensen6239 The new law is 30 years. Still too late and not retroactive. Her father FAILED her by not reporting to the police. Now it is all about $$$.
@@dcole2133 No I'm not, just stating just a couple of the facts media isn't reporting. Cindy wasn't this little innocent angel like you are led to believe either.
@@elizabethlacky6068 Morris wife Debbie forgave her because Cindy was hoping to take her husband away from her, in that ongoing relationship that Morris eventually broke off. So, then Cindy ends up marrying a man later that looked alot like Morris but was even older than him. She divorced him of many years in 2020.
God is patient and just. He thought he escaped punishment when he wasn't charged criminally. God forgives but he doesn't forget, and there is always a price to pay. Morris has profitted from his lies for years , time to settle up.
@@laurykristensen6239 Hebrews 8:12 disagrees with you. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."
These reporters are an absolute abomination. Their use of words are misleading and deceitful. “Allegations” and “young man”. You’re either an adult or you’re a child. If he admitted to the deplorable acts, it’s not an “allegation”. End of story.
She was a child. She wasn't a young lady. She wasn't a young woman. She was a little girl. She was a child. A kid. Where's the investigation? Where's the outrage? There are more girls and / or victims. Where is law enforcement now. His reputation has been questionable for some time. Why has it been covered up? Where was the investigation then? Where's the legal officials now? This here will be one of many reasons ppl will walk away, have walked away, and will continue to leave Christianity. It is and will be the hypocrisy. Watch his videos he is pretty clear in his intentions.
@gigglesribera2379 Hopefully others will come forward, this behavior usually has multiple victims. In his sermons he speaks of "girls" he sought after. I think the statute of limitations is open in cases of serial r@pe. Perhaps her lawyers advised that she go public for this reason? Hoping for justice. 🙏
She was trying to deal with him privately through the church as her father originally did. She only waited to go public because of years without any acknowledgement from him or his church
@357CLOUDY The church hired a lawfirm for an internal investigation. This, I'm sure is for their own protection but may also help bring some justice for Cindy. They will see she informed certain elders about Morris, but it was ignored. Her lawyer is working to have statute of limitations changed as well. (It's been done in some States). If she hadn't gone to the media nothing would be happening at all. She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution.
@@laurykristensen6239 "She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution." So, she should have outed him in 2005 after the $50K rejection. Why now? Why wait 19 more years? Does that make a lot of sense? NOPE. This is no longer about justice. It is about $$$.
I have recorded all Past Robbert's Sermons. I have heard time and again his remorse about his immorality in his sermons. He always warned about that. And now I want to repeat what I heard now. A man who unfortunately used 2 words young lady(I thought it was to not let anybody know who it was)wrongly for a deed he did 35 yrs ago. And repented at his church and was punished for 2 years and apologised to the father and elders before being reinstated. That he is now excommunicated by all chuches and condemned by all. Did he do the 2nd unpardonable sin? Please pick up the first stone all his accusers. As I have heard the tiny girl went to HIS room! Wrong. But so sorry Past Robert. I hope the person who accuses him, will think at night if she feels better. Now that everybody knows and that Past Roberts is verbally condemned....
Let’s not forget that it was Cindy’s dad that chose not to go to the authorities to have Robert arrested, but allow the pastor and the elders of the church judge the matter (1 Corinthians 6:1-2). Let’s also not forget that on October of 89, after the church’s pastor and elders had “judged” Robert, completed the restoration process and release him back into ministry, that now PASTOR Robert, for SEVEN months (something Cindy and her dad must’ve know) and his wife went to Cindy (now three months shy of her 20th birthday) and her dad’s home to ask for forgiveness. By ALL accounts Cindy and her dad forgave PASTOR Robert. Everything is possible, but it’s hard to believe that Cindy’s dad would grant Robert forgiveness if he was so much (according to Cindy) against him being back in ministry as a pastor. Of course he is now dead and has no say into Cindy’s allegations, now in 2024. So my question is, if she does not dispute that as an almost 20 year old “young lady” she and her dad forgave pastor Robert, what exactly, now at 54, is she after trying to crucify and destroy pastor Robert’s ministry and life because, supposedly, 16 years after “forgiving” him he would not give her fifty thousand dollars to help with the treatment for the damage that Robert supposedly inflicted on her?
i am SO TIRED of people claiming SIN's of people 30 plus years ago, NOW there is big $ to get!!! i admit & so does he what he did was wrong---TELL ME___HOW MANY OF US DID SOME "VERY WRONG/SINFUL " STUPID THINGS when we were Young ? we ALL end up paying for our sins in some way and GOD may still use us . GOD SAYS you do not forgive, you can Not be forgiven---that is what He died for us for!! HE is our advocate!
I agree. Im a survivor of SA and I believe in justice, the money grab is.......I don't know. I believe most people change throughout the years and they are forgiven. But as a survivor of SA I understand what victims have had to endure throughout the years also😢
The lady is now 45 ,she needs to get over it , this is an attack on the church.. this issue is already sorted out. Its a long time ago she needs to get over it. He already admitted.. Jesus already forgave him . She is an adult now
Actually, now that the church knows the truth they are going to do a thorough investigation. He lied to the church about what he did years ago. They believed he repented and the old records didn't describe the truth, only inappropriateness with a "young lady". He carried this lie throughout his role as leader. They are not pleased! He knows he's caught, that's why he resigned.
He never stepped down from ministry, as evidenced by the newspaper articles from various states posting announcements of church meetings where he would be preaching. No accountability.
He did not repent, he even lied about the age of the victim, and he kept blaming her even though she was 12 years old when the first attack happened. He even monetized his false testimony and wrote a book about his "fall" when it really was a crime.
I honestly don’t see repentance. When David got confronted with his sin with Bathsheba, he fell on the floor crying and accepted the consequences of his sin. This man has undermined his sin, calling her a young lady instead of a child. Stating he only touched but didn’t have intercourse. His wife even called the girl to “forgive” her for enticing her husband. When you are the predator to a child, you don’t get to make light of their trauma. If he has to lose his megachurch pastor status and all the money he makes from that, what a small sacrifice. He can still have a relationship with Christ and that is all that matters. If his sadness comes from losing his status and reputation, then it’s not true repentance. That’s a Saul and not a David.
Very sad. He was a huge huge pastor and Gateway church we know is a Mega church. Hearing this and hearing Pastor Morris on few of his speeches acknowledges his past sexual sins and after all those years they have caught up to him. This is a pastor that many looked up to. My prayers are for him, his family, church, and all of us who were not present in his church, but were present in seeing him on TV and we also looked up to him. This teaches us that sin no matter how lengthy it was it will catch up. My heart today is very broken by this news.
Sorry but being someone who's been sexually abused by I was 10 growing up she's not ever forgiven and GOD will deal with her. Gateway church is a different church not the church that is actually is at fault.
Hey while all this was going on - Robert Morris and his wife Debbie were in a cruise to Greece. Possibly looking for movie locations. Morris really suffering
Wolves in sheep clothing a priest did the same thing to me also I told me not to tell anyone I told me what happens to the others and he don't know what would happen to me if I talk.
MORRIS SAID HE REPENTED SO IF TRUE HE WAS FORGIVEN .ONLY HE KNOWS AND GOD . MORRIS I SAY IS A VERY PRIDEFULL MAN WITH A HUGE EGO . MORRIS HAS A MONEY MAKING BUSINESS. MAYBE HE CAN GET HIS PRIDE UNDER CONTROLL NOW AND STOP MAKING MONEY HIS FIRST GOAL !
Is Morris still on payroll or did he receive 'severance pay'? These are important questions not answered and should have been part of the statement regarding the resignation...including the actual effective date of the resignation. Had there been an involuntary termination of the contract, there would have been more important facts about the severance terms available from the 'church'. Is there a period during which he shall be paid or a severance 'bonus' that ultimately will pay for his silence and 'staying with their story' if there is litigation or criminal charges against the victim?! Him resigning in Trump's birthdate raises many concerns, especially due to Morris being one of his MANY spiritual advisors. Looks like it is a call out for a Trump nominated judge to be assigned to handle civil litigation to determine the outcome before a case is even filed.
The fault is with the Father, he should´ve gone straight to the police. Sexual predators make friends with the family to get to the children. The Father approached the church instead of the authorities. He would´ve been jailed for years if the father had done the right thing. But he was left to live and deceive the church. He even lied in his book that he left the ministry for two years because of pride, as everyone kept telling him how good was his preaching! When in fact he was forced to take those two years by the church! So, he even spun that in his favor, with a false humility, with everybody commending him!
Jesus Christ paid a very high price for our sins, and where there is true repentance, God's forgiveness is complete. I have heard people saying, on social media, that Robert Morris did not repent.... I find this to be a shocking statement, how dare any human being feel that they know anothers heart? We bearly know our own hearts......By the stripes that Jesus bore in His body, we were healed, and i believe that only God can heal brokenness.....My heart breaks for Cindy, especially as i have three beautiful daughters, but i am struggling to understand what restitution could ever heal what took place? Money can't heal, words cant heal, seeing others punished won't heal. Please could someone explain to me, outside of the supernatural healing power of God, what could make this right for Cindy? This burning flame has become a consuming wildfire, bringing hurt and devastation to 100's possibly 1000's.What restitution would be adequate?
We be hearing alot of abuse how come the person continue to have this relationship for a period of time knowing if they so young very confusing we teach our kids not to let a grown up or any person to touch you so they know that it wrong
Resigns but son takes over to keep it going and that money coming in. If he puts the son in charge nothing really changes! Shame on you all. Disgusting. No wonder there is a great falling away in the church world
He repented a long time ago. Got counceling and God forgave him. Why dig it up now? We all have sinned and fallen short . Do you want people to dig up your past sins?
Lol I can't tell the Pharisees from the Saducees anymore. All things written are for our admonition, even this fiasco. I don't recall a single child molester anywhere in the scriptures, though they did sacrifice their children to idols. Judgment begins in the house of god. I get it all the time & am deeply grateful for it because we all need to grow the heck up, and being judged and disciplined is helping me get there. Good day all
This girl was not a baby 12 years she was old enough to tell her parents about it so she knows her parent will protect her why she acting now to tell that story
How did her sister Karen not know anything? They shared a bedroom, and she is 3 years older than Cindy. I have never seen sisters NOT talk to one another. Somebody knew and it was tamped down. This explains why charges were not filed. The family was trying to hide that they knew before 1987.
What’s the most irritating is the way that it stated by him to make light of the situation. He engaged in inappropriate behavior with a young lady. No dude, you molested a kid. How different it would have sounded if he had been on the pulpit confessing it as it actually is than the white washed version of it.
The sad part about this, he told his members he went after "girls" who didn't have strong father figures or were vulnerable. He taught them how to do it by saying how he did it. So, he had to be lying when he said it was only one woman (a 12-year-old girl). It had to be more young girls he violated or abused because he said he went after "girls" not one girl.
We are called to forgive those who sin against us, we are never given permission to forgive CRIMES committed against innocent children. That’s for the law to handle. May justice prevail.
Nope, according to your dogma, even what Morris did is forgivable. You can't make up your own stuff and act like that's the Christian way. What you wrote makes sense, but don't give Christianity credit for that. Any rational society would never forgive this guy. And that's OK. 👍
According to the Bible even crimes are supposed to be forgiven. Now just because you forgive someone it doesn't mean you have to support their livelihood. As Christians we should pray for all involved and pray that nothing like this ever happens again.
Who is paying for Gateway’s legal team? My tithes were not meant to support immoral behavior. This is on the elders who allowed Robert Morris to return to the pulpit, ignored Cindy’s accusations and swept it under the rug.
Your tithes aren’t supposed to be for the church but for God. You’re tithing for the wrong reason. That’s what an offering is for that is for the church.
Exactly sweet friend that's why we pulled our ties away from the church we made a phone call and told him to stop tithing and we're sending it somewhere else
Her parents are also to blame. Instead of allowing the church to "handle it internally", meaning no consequences for the molester, they should have gone directly to the police.
We shouldn't blame her parents. The only one to blame is him and the elders who enabled this to continue. They are ALL mandated reporters. He should be in jail.
@@carriemccurley-th8gnThe parents were very close friends with him. It must have been agonizing for them as Christians especially. They trusted the church and believed he would never preach again. They didn't even get that minimal justice. They knew if they went to the police his life would be completely ruined. I can understand their struggle. (I think it would be like getting someone fired as opposed to being criminally charged? But the idiots rehired him)
@@laurykristensen6239 I have seen this first hand in the church. Parents who are strong believers and want to give time for grace and mercy for the abuser to be "restored" rather than going to the law first. They are well-meaning, but unfortunately, the abusers usually go on to prey on more victims. I'm sure they regret that now, but it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback if you've never been through this.
I am leary of any church that allows an outgoing pastor to “appoint” his successor. They should form a pastor search committee, find a good interim pastor than can guide the church through that process (normally about a year), and then trust the process.
The outgoing scandalous pastor will always appoint from his or her family or if there is no family members, he or she will assign a crony so that he or she can still maintain control of the church h especially the finances.
precisely why I left my last church....founding pastor groomed and selected his protege' and then pushed it thru...plus I became leary of all the 'pastors' on staff...it was like a corporate business with lots of young woke pastors running around in skinny jeans womens tennis shoes and speaking jesus. Covid drove the final nail...they all caved to the BS promoting vaxxines and being a good little citizen while being mur*dered by the govt.
Well it’s about time he should have never ever been allowed up in a church leader position again , after that and the church knew about it !! He could be forgiven but never ever should have been allowed any senior position even again !!!
Sad. I wish he would have given me or my son a hundred dollar bill, which he tells he gives to different needy but deserving people before this came out. He should be glad it came out because he can give part of his and his family's money to his victim He should not return to his empire - Gateway. He told her to never ever tell anyone, he knew what he was doing was horribly wrong and evil.
Like the typical televangelist, it's always about the money. Since they have no real job, they have unlimited time to mess with and destroy others. Where are the Christian pastors who can honestly say these words: I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so laboring YOU OUGHT to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Paul the apostle to the church leaders, Acts 20:33ff. Notice that it is the leaders (elders) who were to do the supporting. Prosperity teachers, including this parasite, endlessly expect others to "support" them. Church, we must do better!
I attended a church years ago. The pastor was hiding adultery. The people fought over money. Thank goodness I was only there a short time. How I was treated traumatized me. Took me years to even want to go back to a church.
That is Exactly Right; they Seek the congregation to SUPPORT THEM and SERVE THEM, just like CULT LEADERS; but they NEVER WILL DO for those Suffering in the Congregation Anything! They Are NOT there to SERVE, but to be Served, but it's The Same Congregation's FAULT.
They switched from tv to internet. Jesus said this would all happen, and right up til the end, they would be concerned with marrying and being given in marriage. In other words controlling relationships, knowing who you can abuse and how to do it, getting their parents to pay for it. Controlling controlling controlling.
😂 I think that every time I look at him. I watched him a couple times and could barely stand him, it wasn't just looks but there was something very repulsive. He also just didn't really say anything helpful. I don't think anyone consistently leading a money based life can really have the Holy Spirit. People think a nice church building and a nice pastors residence and a healthy bank account are what make a good church.
She found her voice. She gained confidence and became fearless. Let's see what you do when your child or grandchildren gets molested. You may forgive and forget. This lady has not forgotten!
Common sense dictates that this should have been reported by her father as soon as he knew. Why didn't he in 1987? Most likely, he knew before that, panicked and allowed it to continue. Dirty laundry swept under the rug....no police involvement.
@@elizabethfrancis9135 Why didn't she expose him in 2005 when her plea for $50K was rejected? Because she really needs money now after her divorce in 2020 versus back in 2005 when still married. How much are mortgages on $800K+ homes anyway? Quite steep, I suspect.
Yes, or 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. But that church is not about doing things the right way. You need to have the pastors lead, not follow their own or anyone else's sexual desires.
@@KansasMiss-mf4bj NO - He should go to PRISON there. If you did what he did - you’d go to Prison. Inmates just LOVE predators who go to prison for messing with children. He’ll be someone’s girlfriend in Prison..
I wonder if he showered with her like Joe Biden did with his daughter? Sister Karen didn't see anything for over 4 years. That is a pretty darn good job of keeping a secret.
She needs bucks because when you're a victim of sexual abuse you cannot make bucks. Your mind is busy thinking about what happened! Did the church compensated her when this was brought to light?
He was 20+ and she was 12. The abuse went on for years. It is not inappropriate sexual relationship. It was and is child molestation. He is a child molester.
Yes, he is!
My thing is anytime people are chasing after a leader for that many years to try to get them removed from power it says more about that person than it does about the leader. Remind me of the whole international House of prayer time the people that was involved with removing my vehicle I know had allegations against them for years for the very same thing they tried to get my vehicle removed from and my understanding it that they turn on my vehicle because they was about to get exposed.
I don't think it's quite the same thing in this situation but a lot of the time the people who go chasing to remove a patch or the heart is a lot of times they got stuff in their closet and they're trying to steer the blame over towards somebody else. Also I found most of the people on social media and long before social media on the website that are the most critical of pastors in general a lot of them are guilty of the very same thing they bash preachers and leaders for doing.
And it's a crime..
Wood chippers 🙏
Preach! His downplaying it shows no sense of responsibility for his actions. Just wants to get people to stop talking about it which also means we shouldn’t be surprised if she was not the only one. I hope any other victims come forward. Yet another wolf in sheep’s clothing!
No surprise at all from these charlatans!
Sounds about wyte!
@@bobbydardy2906 it does not justify what he did.but the devil is the accuser
Statute of limitations should be lifted for child sexual abuse, nationwide.
They just lifted them in New Jersey.
I agree !!
This is TX they lifted the statue of limitation. If it happened in Collin county they DA better do something. His whole new campaign is sex traffic and underage SA.
Please! I need my chance!
It's there for a reason. Person need a resonable chance to defend against false allegations, which are impossible decades in the past.
They are NOT “allegations”.
THIS!!!
this is truth
How do you know ???
@@marygarrett9724 He has admitted to it publicly. I would suggest people listen to Remnant Radio’s interview with Julie Roys. I’ve been a Christian for decades and it saddens me that churches are more interested in “restoring” their people back to the pulpit. They hired the same law firm as other churches have, to control the narrative, do damage control. It’s right on their web page. Robert has an early retirement but he’s still controlling things. How anyone would stay there is beyond me.
Sounds about wyte!
A 12 yo is a child!!!
Shame on these men who shut the females up & did not have pure ♡♡♡.
sinner priest 👎
He didn't shut her up and hide it. Listen carefully to what has transpired since the occurrence.
@@MyPersonalBrand you don't know if he shut her up, but he probably did. He's not really admitting what he did.
The wives that covered up their evil act is what irks me most
He needs to be labeled a sexual predator
He should’ve been fired. The church should close.
The church should close bc ONE man did something decades ago? SMH
@@HisPresence2024 yes, because the leadership is part of the problem. They’re hiding the truth, or buried their head in the sand. They’re very selective in their wording. They allowed Mr. Morris to use his criminal act to be the victim or cash in on his poor judgment when in fact he’s a child molester. Their true concern is for them with an apology to Cindy. They should truly listen to God. What if God wants them to sell that mega multi million dollar stadium and truly help victims. They allowed Morris to resign when they should’ve been transparent and fired him. That would show true leadership.
@@HisPresence2024 the leadership is part of the problem and letting money rule their lives. They either knew the truth and hid it or didn’t look hard enough. I’ve seen this happen before. Are they listening to God or being ruled by money. They’re apologizing but what if God is telling them the leadership to close the church and use the funds to help victims.
No the church shouldn’t close. A pastoral change is in order and should have been done years ago.
@@sherronhardin2127 for years the leadership more than likely knew about this. Peel the scab off and let it heal. They clearly are saving their own butts for the money. Why not pray for God’s direction and what if God said sell the church and use the money for sexual abuse victims. People who give to a multi million mega church need to examine their own intentions too.
“I was involved in….”
“This behavior happened”
Note the use of passive voice to avoid taking responsibility. Also “young lady” where he should have said “12 year old child.”
Very good analysis.
Let He or She who has no sin cast the first stone. Morris knows in his heart wether or not he has truly repented. God knows all things, imparts righteousness and mercy. Let's pray for the victim and for Robert.
You are absolutely right! However, Morris’ account of what happened and the way he downplayed it suggests he is not truly repentant. He molested a child, not having a consensual relationship with a young lady as he put it. I understand that no one would willingly self-incriminate, but his book and the numerous preachings where he talked about this incident are callous because they retraumatize the victim. Perhaps if he had just kept quiet about the incident, the victim would have healed faster. Anyways, I’m full of sin, so I’m not casting stones and won’t be praying for Robert. My prayers remain with the victim.
I pray he truly repents. I pray Cindy receives the justice she deserves. I pray for his children, their spouses, and their children - according to his son-in-law his daughter thought he had an affair, but she did not know he had molested a child. I pray for the people that attend Gateway. I pray for all involved.
HA, HA, HA, "Repent" HA, HA, HA. Those Wolves never change & never REPENT, they LIKE being the way they ARE.
We need to pray for discernment and to understand human nature. RM was married to a nice looking young woman. He is just a pervert. He can't stop himself, he has taught that even God cannot control the male urges.
He's a liar, a pervert, a money oriented wolf in shepherd's clothing. A lover of himself only, having the appearance of Godliness but denying the Power of God to be able to transform a sinner.
I support your prayer in Jesus name!
He is a predator and there are other victims and hopefully they have the courage to come forward
churches seem to be very unsafe places for children and teens. Youth pastors priests, and preachers getting arrested left and right.
Actually, it's in the public schools that are much more so.
@@Marjorie-xt1nnyou are either a bot or clearly trying to spin this as not that bad. I hope you’re a bot, because you are a sick person if not
@@Marjorie-xt1nn you know what? I just heard a story about two teachers in Georgia who were arrested for sleeping with students.
Why is all this coming out right now? Why did the IT guy wait so long to speak out? Retaliation? Why did the dad let him off so lightly? Was he paid to shut up? Why did she set a price to be quiet? Then say it's not about the money?
🎶🎶 Money money money money.....Money! 🎶🎶
That's pretty wild He's not even Catholic..
A lot of church pastors and boards follow the Catholic way of money. Not the statues, etc., but they are worldly.
Im just glad all you who comment on this,
IS NOT MY GOD!! Other wise, there wouldn't be ANYONE IN HEAVEN!
True. Except for themselves. They want to sit on Daddy Jesus lap and have all to themselves, everyone else can burn.
I hope your child is not molested.
Amen!!
She was a child and he was an adult... fingers and all
He confessed of inappropriate 10 years ago, he should have stepped down 10 years ago.
Psalms 118:8
“It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.”
And that means?
He shouldn't be around children, ever.
I hope there aren’t others. Praying for everyone involved. I also have been abused by people who claimed to serve and love God as a child. I hope Cindy can forgive and not poison herself with this horrible event. I’m so sry this happened to you. ❤
IMO
Her parents need to be charged. Cindy has repeatley wanted money, she quoted a scripture on her interview which i find disturbing she hasnt found God, she threatend he pay her or else. She was 12 and it went on for 5 years she was 17? Sound a little sus, she question her parents and he sought councel what was his results from counceling. I dont think he should be charged. He was forgiven by all at that time but she wants money now sounds weird to me. She needs to find God and forgiveness, isnt that what the buble says? Why does she need money
"Why does she need money". 2020 divorce and trying to keep paying her mortgage on her $800K+ home. As a Realtor, trying to make money today must be quite difficult. Average Americans cannot afford mortgages anymore. Thank Bidenflation for that.
Oh my word you want money why she don't tell the public she wants money to keep quite oh my word what do you do in a situation like this bringing the gospel of jesus he already died for us what more you'll want he coming again you'll better repent and stay repented before he comes
Will he go to prison?
No, statute of limitations has expired! Sick, really. If another woman should come forward, perhaps, within the time line.
@@caroletta451It occurred in both Texas and Oklahoma. It's expired in Oklahoma, but I searched Texas Statutes of limitations and it doesn't appear to expire if a minor is SAed?
@@laurykristensen6239 That would be wonderful!
@@caroletta451 I think as it stands that although the law was changed in Texas, it may not be retroactive. In some States it is, and her lawyer is working to have that changed. I was thinking the church also had responsibilities when she reported to them. Maybe she has a lawsuit to go after the church for restoration? I'm hoping now that they are investigating, they will do the right thing by her.
@@laurykristensen6239 The new law is 30 years. Still too late and not retroactive. Her father FAILED her by not reporting to the police. Now it is all about $$$.
Y’all trying to minimize this. Sick 🤢
Yall? Bruh they just posted almost a half hour video about it what else do you want
@@jaydenmathews2221 I was speaking of ol Marjorie down in the comments… she’s minimizing
@@dcole2133 No I'm not, just stating just a couple of the facts media isn't reporting. Cindy wasn't this little innocent angel like you are led to believe either.
@@Marjorie-xt1nn
Have a nice day, Debbie.
@@elizabethlacky6068 Morris wife Debbie forgave her because Cindy was hoping to take her husband away from her, in that ongoing relationship that Morris eventually broke off. So, then Cindy ends up marrying a man later that looked alot like Morris but was even older than him. She divorced him of many years in 2020.
“Behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin will find you out.”
Numbers 32:23
God is patient and just. He thought he escaped punishment when he wasn't charged criminally. God forgives but he doesn't forget, and there is always a price to pay. Morris has profitted from his lies for years , time to settle up.
@@laurykristensen6239 Hebrews 8:12 disagrees with you. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."
These reporters are an absolute abomination. Their use of words are misleading and deceitful. “Allegations” and “young man”. You’re either an adult or you’re a child. If he admitted to the deplorable acts, it’s not an “allegation”. End of story.
Sounds about wyte!
@@righteousone1 it's right! Can you go back to grade school please?
@@Cherrylipgloss2025 lol delusional
100%agree wirh you..liberal media just wanting for a Christian pastor to look bad .
Sounds like a confession. Oh wait, _IT IS._
She was a child. She wasn't a young lady. She wasn't a young woman. She was a little girl. She was a child. A kid. Where's the investigation? Where's the outrage? There are more girls and / or victims. Where is law enforcement now. His reputation has been questionable for some time. Why has it been covered up? Where was the investigation then? Where's the legal officials now? This here will be one of many reasons ppl will walk away, have walked away, and will continue to leave Christianity. It is and will be the hypocrisy. Watch his videos he is pretty clear in his intentions.
Matthew 18:6
@gigglesribera2379 Hopefully others will come forward, this behavior usually has multiple victims. In his sermons he speaks of "girls" he sought after. I think the statute of limitations is open in cases of serial r@pe. Perhaps her lawyers advised that she go public for this reason? Hoping for justice. 🙏
Her father should have pressed charges THEN. Why didn't he?
@tomkat1883 Your response in blaming the families of victim is gaslighting.
I was abused by girls aging 6-30 so please understand this is a big problem.
Nothing like waiting 35 years to speak the truth...
She was trying to deal with him privately through the church as her father originally did. She only waited to go public because of years without any acknowledgement from him or his church
@@John_Hoover Leave the cult bro
sssssshhhhhhhh I didn't really need the money then, but now I do!!!
@@Billpeterson4785 Ya, totally “cultish” to wonder why someone would wait over a third of a century to make this known…
They keep the church in the family that is nepotism,Paul would gave expelled him
Most ministries and churches are started by a family. I don't think that Paul would have had a problem with that.
@Marjorie-xt1nn keep the money in the family ,American church is in bad shape a movement of goats 🐐
@Marjorie-xt1nn it's about finishing the race now his sitting at home playing with his toes ,Paul says lest I be disqualified
1 Corinthians 5:1-5, Matthew 18:6
@Marjorie-xt1nn show references don't give an opinion that is why the American churches are in trouble it's all opinions and no word
A lot of snakes in this church...
People in comments actually praying for this creep.
I'm praying for this woman. She should sue for slander.
Slander for what?
@357CLOUDY The church hired a lawfirm for an internal investigation. This, I'm sure is for their own protection but may also help bring some justice for Cindy. They will see she informed certain elders about Morris, but it was ignored. Her lawyer is working to have statute of limitations changed as well. (It's been done in some States). If she hadn't gone to the media nothing would be happening at all. She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution.
@@laurykristensen6239 "She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution." So, she should have outed him in 2005 after the $50K rejection. Why now? Why wait 19 more years? Does that make a lot of sense? NOPE. This is no longer about justice. It is about $$$.
Sounds like a cover up by his fellow associates
I have recorded all Past Robbert's Sermons. I have heard time and again his remorse about his immorality in his sermons. He always warned about that. And now I want to repeat what I heard now. A man who unfortunately used 2 words young lady(I thought it was to not let anybody know who it was)wrongly for a deed he did 35 yrs ago. And repented at his church and was punished for 2 years and apologised to the father and elders before being reinstated. That he is now excommunicated by all chuches and condemned by all.
Did he do the 2nd unpardonable sin? Please pick up the first stone all his accusers. As I have heard the tiny girl went to HIS room! Wrong. But so sorry Past Robert. I hope the person who accuses him, will think at night if she feels better. Now that everybody knows and that Past Roberts is verbally condemned....
Yall gotta stop with this shot.. forreal.
Let’s not forget that it was Cindy’s dad that chose not to go to the authorities to have Robert arrested, but allow the pastor and the elders of the church judge the matter (1 Corinthians 6:1-2).
Let’s also not forget that on October of 89, after the church’s pastor and elders had “judged” Robert, completed the restoration process and release him back into ministry, that now PASTOR Robert, for SEVEN months (something Cindy and her dad must’ve know) and his wife went to Cindy (now three months shy of her 20th birthday) and her dad’s home to ask for forgiveness. By ALL accounts Cindy and her dad forgave PASTOR Robert. Everything is possible, but it’s hard to believe that Cindy’s dad would grant Robert forgiveness if he was so much (according to Cindy) against him being back in ministry as a pastor. Of course he is now dead and has no say into Cindy’s allegations, now in 2024.
So my question is, if she does not dispute that as an almost 20 year old “young lady” she and her dad forgave pastor Robert, what exactly, now at 54, is she after trying to crucify and destroy pastor Robert’s ministry and life because, supposedly, 16 years after “forgiving” him he would not give her fifty thousand dollars to help with the treatment for the damage that Robert supposedly inflicted on her?
Nailed it 💯👌 her parents failed her 💯 now she's retaliating 💯
@@linegrant4605 she’s finally able to think clearer from the trauma she experienced. Adults failed her and she found her voice.
@@linegrant4605 If this goes to civil court, the parents will need to tell the truth as to why they did not contact the police. What are they hiding?
@@tomkat1883Her father is deceased. Not sure about her mother.
@@emmabranch2930 Perhaps he is, perhaps he is not. I found obits on both of her father's brothers (1999 & 2023), but nothing on him.
Sorry I put my faith in God and the word given by God called the Bible. Not in churches their paid by the government
Robert Morris had already confessed to this and asked for forgiveness and sat down with her father. This lady is just wanting money
i am SO TIRED of people claiming SIN's of people 30 plus years ago, NOW there is big $ to get!!! i admit & so does he what he did was wrong---TELL ME___HOW MANY OF US DID SOME "VERY WRONG/SINFUL " STUPID THINGS when we were Young ? we ALL end up paying for our sins in some way and GOD may still use us . GOD SAYS you do not forgive, you can Not be forgiven---that is what He died for us for!! HE is our advocate!
I agree. Im a survivor of SA and I believe in justice, the money grab is.......I don't know. I believe most people change throughout the years and they are forgiven. But as a survivor of SA I understand what victims have had to endure throughout the years also😢
Amen!
This guy needs to be in jail!
My question is, why didn't the parents report this????!!!!!!!
Yes, it's wrong in every way, but i question the girls parents.
Because they are bound by the same demonic stronghold.
Lord help us. There’s no one else we can trust
12 is not a lady shes a child
Thats worth a few million in damages. Shes doesnt talk about it anymore and church coughs up 3M?
The lady is now 45 ,she needs to get over it , this is an attack on the church.. this issue is already sorted out. Its a long time ago she needs to get over it. He already admitted.. Jesus already forgave him . She is an adult now
She is actually 54.
The lord says differently.
Taking the side of the abuser and telling the victim to “get over it.”
There’s no hate like Christian love.
You are deceived by satan
Actually, now that the church knows the truth they are going to do a thorough investigation. He lied to the church about what he did years ago. They believed he repented and the old records didn't describe the truth, only inappropriateness with a "young lady". He carried this lie throughout his role as leader. They are not pleased! He knows he's caught, that's why he resigned.
He never stepped down from ministry, as evidenced by the newspaper articles from various states posting announcements of church meetings where he would be preaching. No accountability.
Passes on power to his own family member... ummmmm not justifiable.
So many sexual scandal going on in the church is scary.
It happened when he was in his 20s. Dont you think Pastor Morris repented by that time? Why is the Body of Christ bringing it up now!
He did not repent, he even lied about the age of the victim, and he kept blaming her even though she was 12 years old when the first attack happened. He even monetized his false testimony and wrote a book about his "fall" when it really was a crime.
If he told just one person then he did repent.
say in the bible to obey the law. repent is for suckers.
I honestly don’t see repentance. When David got confronted with his sin with Bathsheba, he fell on the floor crying and accepted the consequences of his sin. This man has undermined his sin, calling her a young lady instead of a child. Stating he only touched but didn’t have intercourse. His wife even called the girl to “forgive” her for enticing her husband. When you are the predator to a child, you don’t get to make light of their trauma. If he has to lose his megachurch pastor status and all the money he makes from that, what a small sacrifice. He can still have a relationship with Christ and that is all that matters. If his sadness comes from losing his status and reputation, then it’s not true repentance. That’s a Saul and not a David.
@@7songsofthunderNOT If he DIDN'T tell that one person, or few persons, the true Facts of the activity.
Very sad. He was a huge huge pastor and Gateway church we know is a Mega church. Hearing this and hearing Pastor Morris on few of his speeches acknowledges his past sexual sins and after all those years they have caught up to him. This is a pastor that many looked up to.
My prayers are for him, his family, church, and all of us who were not present in his church, but were present in seeing him on TV and we also looked up to him.
This teaches us that sin no matter how lengthy it was it will catch up.
My heart today is very broken by this news.
He needs to be in jail. Pedophiles should be charged and dismissed. If you know what i mean.
That could have happened if Cindy's father involved the police in 1987. But he didn't. He failed her. Too much dirty laundry to hide.
Sorry but being someone who's been sexually abused by I was 10 growing up she's not ever forgiven and GOD will deal with her. Gateway church is a different church not the church that is actually is at fault.
He needs to be in prison
Notably, not a drag queen.
Hey while all this was going on - Robert Morris and his wife Debbie were in a cruise to Greece. Possibly looking for movie locations. Morris really suffering
God is cleaning house!
...end tax free exemptions.
The bible tells us many will fall away in the last days so not a surprise to a person who in the spirit of God God already warms us
Wolves in sheep clothing a priest did the same thing to me also I told me not to tell anyone I told me what happens to the others and he don't know what would happen to me if I talk.
I know of some that have been molested by priests. One was threaten that they were going to be killed if they told.
This is Trump’s spiritual advisor? More like his connection to find young girls.
All these people ride in the same wicked boat.
A crime!!! A child!!!
Glad you stepped out. God help you heal.
Shocked !
MORRIS SAID HE REPENTED SO IF TRUE HE WAS FORGIVEN .ONLY HE KNOWS AND GOD . MORRIS I SAY IS A VERY PRIDEFULL MAN WITH A HUGE EGO . MORRIS HAS A MONEY MAKING BUSINESS. MAYBE HE CAN GET HIS PRIDE UNDER CONTROLL NOW AND STOP MAKING MONEY HIS FIRST GOAL !
Another pastor. Say hell, mary , all is forgiven. No accountability, predator.
‘Christian’ right.. not at all right. Ahhh Texas
Is Morris still on payroll or did he receive 'severance pay'? These are important questions not answered and should have been part of the statement regarding the resignation...including the actual effective date of the resignation. Had there been an involuntary termination of the contract, there would have been more important facts about the severance terms available from the 'church'. Is there a period during which he shall be paid or a severance 'bonus' that ultimately will pay for his silence and 'staying with their story' if there is litigation or criminal charges against the victim?! Him resigning in Trump's birthdate raises many concerns, especially due to Morris being one of his MANY spiritual advisors. Looks like it is a call out for a Trump nominated judge to be assigned to handle civil litigation to determine the outcome before a case is even filed.
I LOVE YOU PASTOR ROBERT, REMEMBER, LET HIM WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. GOD FORGAVE WAY BACK THEN AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNT'S.
The fault is with the Father, he should´ve gone straight to the police. Sexual predators make friends with the family to get to the children. The Father approached the church instead of the authorities. He would´ve been jailed for years if the father had done the right thing. But he was left to live and deceive the church. He even lied in his book that he left the ministry for two years because of pride, as everyone kept telling him how good was his preaching! When in fact he was forced to take those two years by the church! So, he even spun that in his favor, with a false humility, with everybody commending him!
More to this story.
Anyone thinking the majority of pastors are holy at this point are beyond delusional.
Thinking ANYONE speaks for the sky gods is delusional
True!
He has resigned!!
Old news. Also they all do this.
Jesus Christ paid a very high price for our sins, and where there is true repentance, God's forgiveness is complete. I have heard people saying, on social media, that Robert Morris did not repent.... I find this to be a shocking statement, how dare any human being feel that they know anothers heart? We bearly know our own hearts......By the stripes that Jesus bore in His body, we were healed, and i believe that only God can heal brokenness.....My heart breaks for Cindy, especially as i have three beautiful daughters, but i am struggling to understand what restitution could ever heal what took place?
Money can't heal, words cant heal, seeing others punished won't heal. Please could someone explain to me, outside of the supernatural healing power of God, what could make this right for Cindy?
This burning flame has become a consuming wildfire, bringing hurt and devastation to 100's possibly 1000's.What restitution would be adequate?
We be hearing alot of abuse how come the person continue to have this relationship for a period of time knowing if they so young very confusing we teach our kids not to let a grown up or any person to touch you so they know that it wrong
I am wondering. What is the purpose now? is anybody trying to do any justice? almost 40 years later? I would not expect it from any Man...
She has been trying since she was seventeen.
Morris need do nothing. Jesus is the answer.
Heckuva "resignation." Business as usual.
He has on more Makeup then my wife.
1:30 - "Met with the survivor..." LMFAO!!! WAY TO BE PUT A VICTIM BADGE ON SOMEONE EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT IT!
Past don't judge,people can change,
Resigns but son takes over to keep it going and that money coming in. If he puts the son in charge nothing really changes! Shame on you all. Disgusting. No wonder there is a great falling away in the church world
Isn't this Old news already? A Presidential Debate Tonight? INTERESTING Timing and the "pushing" of this story....CBS, so go figure.
If it is truly thine, owneth it.
CBS should be reporting on human trafficking at border
This is probably part of it, probably connected.
He repented a long time ago. Got counceling and God forgave him. Why dig it up now? We all have sinned and fallen short . Do you want people to dig up your past sins?
Lol I can't tell the Pharisees from the Saducees anymore. All things written are for our admonition, even this fiasco. I don't recall a single child molester anywhere in the scriptures, though they did sacrifice their children to idols. Judgment begins in the house of god. I get it all the time & am deeply grateful for it because we all need to grow the heck up, and being judged and disciplined is helping me get there. Good day all
This girl was not a baby 12 years she was old enough to tell her parents about it so she knows her parent will protect her why she acting now to tell that story
How did her sister Karen not know anything? They shared a bedroom, and she is 3 years older than Cindy. I have never seen sisters NOT talk to one another. Somebody knew and it was tamped down. This explains why charges were not filed. The family was trying to hide that they knew before 1987.
Pedifiles jesus or no jesus do not reform phycolog8cally
What’s the most irritating is the way that it stated by him to make light of the situation. He engaged in inappropriate behavior with a young lady. No dude, you molested a kid. How different it would have sounded if he had been on the pulpit confessing it as it actually is than the white washed version of it.
MORE LIKE....WITH A BABY
How many others are out there that he molested?
I would have just assumed he was closeted from the photo. What a POS
Will! They do all that and then they cray and ask for forgiveness! Every time! And their will be more and more of him to come 😂
I wonder if he would use that same language had it been his own daughter/grandkids/wife, etc. 🤔
When are we going to STOP putting these people on a pedestal?????? That's the first step.
Gawd and white jesus hate background checks and love kid fiddlers.
the ones preaching are the ones committing the crimes
he should be in jail, not in the pulpit!!!! how dares he speak to the congregation about his crime as if it was a learning process??? 😢
Never ever leave your kids alone with the clergy .
With anyone
Agree!
truth
Or a teacher
The sad part about this, he told his members he went after "girls" who didn't have strong father figures or were vulnerable. He taught them how to do it by saying how he did it. So, he had to be lying when he said it was only one woman (a 12-year-old girl). It had to be more young girls he violated or abused because he said he went after "girls" not one girl.
Exactly! I believe there are more out there from his own words!
criminal
When he spoke of seeking young girls he was in high school.
@@nataliehidalgo8933 He wasn't in high school when he molested Cindy. And Cindy was a very young girl. And at 12 years old you are in Jr. High.
@@nataliehidalgo8933 No, that is not true. Because Cindy was a young girl that was in Jr. High School when he sleeked her out and molested her.
Like Herod he passed it to his son.
We are called to forgive those who sin against us, we are never given permission to forgive CRIMES committed against innocent children. That’s for the law to handle. May justice prevail.
Sounds about wyte!
I just feel like it was a long time ago and he step down
Nope, according to your dogma, even what Morris did is forgivable. You can't make up your own stuff and act like that's the Christian way. What you wrote makes sense, but don't give Christianity credit for that. Any rational society would never forgive this guy. And that's OK. 👍
Most of these people are worshipers of Remphan not of Yahuwah
According to the Bible even crimes are supposed to be forgiven. Now just because you forgive someone it doesn't mean you have to support their livelihood. As Christians we should pray for all involved and pray that nothing like this ever happens again.
Who is paying for Gateway’s legal team? My tithes were not meant to support immoral behavior. This is on the elders who allowed Robert Morris to return to the pulpit, ignored Cindy’s accusations and swept it under the rug.
Morris was the founder of Gateway church and he hired the pastors.
Your tithes aren’t supposed to be for the church but for God. You’re tithing for the wrong reason. That’s what an offering is for that is for the church.
@@jaydenmathews2221why does God need money?
Giving is for your breakthri.
Exactly sweet friend that's why we pulled our ties away from the church we made a phone call and told him to stop tithing and we're sending it somewhere else
Her parents are also to blame. Instead of allowing the church to "handle it internally", meaning no consequences for the molester, they should have gone directly to the police.
In the 80s? Nothing would have happened…also…cults teach their members NEVER to go to civil authorities
people who are supposed to protect children are themselves sexual predators and they preach in the church, and are let go free for their sexual crimes
We shouldn't blame her parents. The only one to blame is him and the elders who enabled this to continue. They are ALL mandated reporters. He should be in jail.
@@carriemccurley-th8gnThe parents were very close friends with him. It must have been agonizing for them as Christians especially. They trusted the church and believed he would never preach again. They didn't even get that minimal justice. They knew if they went to the police his life would be completely ruined. I can understand their struggle. (I think it would be like getting someone fired as opposed to being criminally charged? But the idiots rehired him)
@@laurykristensen6239 I have seen this first hand in the church. Parents who are strong believers and want to give time for grace and mercy for the abuser to be "restored" rather than going to the law first. They are well-meaning, but unfortunately, the abusers usually go on to prey on more victims. I'm sure they regret that now, but it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback if you've never been through this.
How shocking. An evangelist abuses a young girl, and his worshippers continue to worship him
This happened before the church started..
WE don’t worship a pastor we worship Jesus.Every man is a sinner, including you.
Yes, they idolize men who tell them what they want to hear.
I am leary of any church that allows an outgoing pastor to “appoint” his successor. They should form a pastor search committee, find a good interim pastor than can guide the church through that process (normally about a year), and then trust the process.
The outgoing scandalous pastor will always appoint from his or her family or if there is no family members, he or she will assign a crony so that he or she can still maintain control of the church h especially the finances.
Exactly
we know he's still making lots of money from the church.
precisely why I left my last church....founding pastor groomed and selected his protege' and then pushed it thru...plus I became leary of all the 'pastors' on staff...it was like a corporate business with lots of young woke pastors running around in skinny jeans womens tennis shoes and speaking jesus. Covid drove the final nail...they all caved to the BS promoting vaxxines and being a good little citizen while being mur*dered by the govt.
Why don't you volunteer to be one🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well it’s about time he should have never ever been allowed up in a church leader position again , after that and the church knew about it !! He could be forgiven but never ever should have been allowed any senior position even again !!!
priests can lie, rape and abuse and get away with it in america
He should not be around children, the risk is too great and he's a terrible influence on young men and boys. People are too trusting sometimes.
That predator Morris is a real wolf in sheep's clothing.
They hide in churches nationwide
rapist and walking free, state of sexual crimes by clergy of the church in america
pathetic
Correct, But about 90% or More of Pastors ARE just Loke Him!!
@@GlobalAINewsInsights878💯💯💯
Sad. I wish he would have given me or my son a hundred dollar bill, which he tells he gives to different needy but deserving people before this came out. He should be glad it came out because he can give part of his and his family's money to his victim He should not return to his empire - Gateway. He told her to never ever tell anyone, he knew what he was doing was horribly wrong and evil.
Like the typical televangelist, it's always about the money. Since they have no real job, they have unlimited time to mess with and destroy others.
Where are the Christian pastors who can honestly say these words:
I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so laboring YOU OUGHT to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. - Paul the apostle to the church leaders, Acts 20:33ff.
Notice that it is the leaders (elders) who were to do the supporting. Prosperity teachers, including this parasite, endlessly expect others to "support" them.
Church, we must do better!
I know many of those men you seek, but none of them are on TV
I attended a church years ago. The pastor was hiding adultery. The people fought over money. Thank goodness I was only there a short time. How I was treated traumatized me. Took me years to even want to go back to a church.
That is Exactly Right; they Seek the congregation to SUPPORT THEM and SERVE THEM, just like CULT LEADERS; but they NEVER WILL DO for those Suffering in the Congregation Anything! They Are NOT there to SERVE, but to be Served, but it's The Same Congregation's FAULT.
They switched from tv to internet. Jesus said this would all happen, and right up til the end, they would be concerned with marrying and being given in marriage.
In other words controlling relationships, knowing who you can abuse and how to do it, getting their parents to pay for it. Controlling controlling controlling.
@@lizh1988 and being transgender
Life is like South Park now.
So much
Hmmm more like the Hampton's 😮
And people would still go to that church! Give me a break.
Also, charge the church for his hair style, it's criminal!
😂😂😂
😂 I think that every time I look at him. I watched him a couple times and could barely stand him, it wasn't just looks but there was something very repulsive. He also just didn't really say anything helpful. I don't think anyone consistently leading a money based life can really have the Holy Spirit.
People think a nice church building and a nice pastors residence and a healthy bank account are what make a good church.
So why wait until now… this should of been taken care when she was 12…
She found her voice. She gained confidence and became fearless. Let's see what you do when your child or grandchildren gets molested.
You may forgive and forget. This lady has not forgotten!
Common sense dictates that this should have been reported by her father as soon as he knew. Why didn't he in 1987? Most likely, he knew before that, panicked and allowed it to continue. Dirty laundry swept under the rug....no police involvement.
@@elizabethfrancis9135 Why didn't she expose him in 2005 when her plea for $50K was rejected? Because she really needs money now after her divorce in 2020 versus back in 2005 when still married. How much are mortgages on $800K+ homes anyway? Quite steep, I suspect.
Yes, or 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. But that church is not about doing things the right way. You need to have the pastors lead, not follow their own or anyone else's sexual desires.
He needs to be in jail throw away the key! and church closed!
Please do not address him pastor. Is he in hiding?
He’s in Greece overseeing a Christian movie. How convenient. He should just stay there.
@@KansasMiss-mf4bja Christian movie? He can’t exegete Scripture to save his life. He’s trying to defraud Europe, now?
@@KansasMiss-mf4bjoh really😮
@@mikeandi3643 there is no need to hide if he admitted some 30 yrs ago
@@KansasMiss-mf4bj NO - He should go to PRISON there. If you did what he did - you’d go to Prison. Inmates just LOVE predators who go to prison for messing with children. He’ll be someone’s girlfriend in Prison..
He needs to be locked up 😠
I wonder if he showered with her like Joe Biden did with his daughter? Sister Karen didn't see anything for over 4 years. That is a pretty darn good job of keeping a secret.
He can't....the Statute has expired. Lawsuit? Certainly.
@@h-towngirl2512 he admitted 30 yrs ago n he was young that time. God forgives.. n she can also move on ,she is now 54. May n she needed bucks
She needs bucks because when you're a victim of sexual abuse you cannot make bucks. Your mind is busy thinking about what happened! Did the church compensated her when this was brought to light?
if anyone else in his place would be in jail, i guess priests can getaway with sexual crimes