would like to see more budget nas setups but without spinning a wheel or other restrictions. just flat out… here’s cash, what can an average user get with that amount of cash? then do the series in increments of $100. edit: probably excluding crowdfunding campaigns since it’s about availability and accessibility.
I was thinking the same thing. Some of us are here to learn what we can do with a small budget, and seeing unnecessary constraints kinda throws that off... I would also put some caveats that they must achieve X functions (HD Jellyfin transcodes, Proxmox, xTB RAID, Minecrafter server, etc.) So that we can see what some of the best in the biz would actually do.
This was a fun series. As someone else mentioned, I'd also like to see a straight up challenge with no spin wheel or obstacles, just $200, $300, etc and go.
Not sure if I will make it to the stream, but I have a suggestion for the next challenge - build the most powerful server, but it has be completely fanless - so only passive cooling is allowed. This will be very useful for folks living in apartments who can't have servers which sound like a jetliner on a takeoff.
Brett ain't a deal hunter try to search for good deals like haven, better luck next time. Haven won it for me this time cause deal hunting, jank mastery, performance per watt, services etc. Do more like this absolutely loved it ❤
Could you do another challenge? 1 machine, but must follow the 3,2,1 backup. Also, it must be accessible from outside the network and include streaming, Minecraft, photo, and file backup from a remote family machine. Make the budget $300 each. Hell, I'll even put up the $600 for it.
I think you did really well with the restrictions you had... some bad rolls there... if you had "no limitations/restrictions" but still 200 budget... what would you have done different? I would love to see another run with 200 dollar budget but 4 rolls from the get go.... 2 with limitations (like no ebay, no amazon, run specific os etc.) 1 with a bonus (like 20 dollars more, remove 1 limitation and such... I am sure you can come up with some good ones) 1 with a downside (have to use zfs, nas case or whatever) Then a special wheel with a mix where you can use 10 dollars from your budget to get 1 extra roll (again chance for 20 dollars, or a limitation or get 1 item (roll item wheel))
I would like to see a part 2, but have a slightly higher budget and a critera of must include router, switch, UPS, nas, and virtualization and onsite backup. Even rackmount could be a cool critera (albeit expensive). Even if the router and nas are virtualized on a single box. I think the wheel spin was fun, but honestly would have preferred more critera.
This was a really cool challenge, and although I'd have taken the money and left the country (I'm FREEEEEEE!!) I think it would be interesting if you both try to wind up at the same place... like a list of specific services each machine needs to run or provide. Although it was kind of fun to see you guys squirm when it was time to spin the wheel...
*Next challenge* Go the other way: The $5000 DataCenter sponsored by [fill in the blank]. Redundant servers, storage, network, and battery backup. Working VM failover, full automated backups. Kubernetes cluster. Media server for family and live-stream library archive, Video inputs for live-stream external cameras, All gaming and editing systems exist in VM. Remote desktops a plus. Rack optional. Things to think about: Large storage, Low latency for editing media, starting a stream, or VM boot disks.
And at the end, you give it away to someone. (not me.. don't need it) The tutorial content alone would be interesting. The wheel spin would be interesting to limit choices (power limits), or require crazy choices (100Gb networking).
How'd you connect your NAS storage to your proxmox instance for Backups? Looking to do something similar when I get my NAS all setup and I don't think backups are supported over iSCSI.
Dude! You should be chuffed. I think the outdated NAS adds to your system, with a separate, dedicated storage device. Obviously, anyone would add more storage down the road, but to hit the ground running with that setup for just $200 USD is pretty impressive. Also, around 80w under load is also pretty great. Personally, I'm not a fan of the low power ARM CPUs - they're either too constricting, or for really good performance, too expensive. I think, based on your challenge mandate, you've already won. And once you compare it to the nightstand "mother of jank" competition, well... there's no question. Why didn't he mount the PC INSIDE the cabinet? There was room, it just needed a little creativity. Anyway, good luck with the stream tonight - soon I guess. If you don't win, the fix is in. Your $200 system rocks.
Love this series. Great content. I hope you do more of these. Funny bit: "I'm petty" and "I'm thick skinned" in the same video LOL. I guess they are not necessarily the same issue... although petty is typically seen as: care too much about small, unimportant things and perhaps that they are unnecessarily unkind... which does NOT seem like a thick skinned quality.
I guess particular things get under that thick skin... like dumb people lecturing you about used hardware. There are things "designed" to be mobile, desktop, workstation, server... but after initial sale/ market... it's how it's USED that counts. Besides, Dell will sell you a rack mount workstation and a desktop server as long as it "sounds" or "looks" good.
Hey man much love From Pakistan! Been watching your videos for some time now and I gotta say that you've really inspired me to get into servers Keep up the good work ❤ 💪
You can run ZFS on a single drive (so you probably could just run it on single 512GB ssd instead of 2 x 256GB). Obviously, it would not be redundant (ie not a zraid1).
I would've used my $200 to pay for gas to drive across the country for a good tech deal.
Oh so you're not eating then I guess...
@@RaidOwlgood tech deals are what he subsists on.
would like to see more budget nas setups but without spinning a wheel or other restrictions. just flat out… here’s cash, what can an average user get with that amount of cash? then do the series in increments of $100.
edit: probably excluding crowdfunding campaigns since it’s about availability and accessibility.
Like LTT's ScrapYardWars but for homelab setups and such
@@quantumechanicalhose But without all the cheating and winning on technicalities 😂
I was thinking the same thing. Some of us are here to learn what we can do with a small budget, and seeing unnecessary constraints kinda throws that off...
I would also put some caveats that they must achieve X functions (HD Jellyfin transcodes, Proxmox, xTB RAID, Minecrafter server, etc.) So that we can see what some of the best in the biz would actually do.
This was a fun series. As someone else mentioned, I'd also like to see a straight up challenge with no spin wheel or obstacles, just $200, $300, etc and go.
I'm really loving this series. I'd say it's nostalgic but I still use other people's ewaste for most of my home lab.
Not sure if I will make it to the stream, but I have a suggestion for the next challenge - build the most powerful server, but it has be completely fanless - so only passive cooling is allowed. This will be very useful for folks living in apartments who can't have servers which sound like a jetliner on a takeoff.
That concept will start like a good idea until you see how expensive high wattage fanless power supplies cost.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino That's the point!
Brett ain't a deal hunter try to search for good deals like haven, better luck next time.
Haven won it for me this time cause deal hunting, jank mastery, performance per watt, services etc.
Do more like this absolutely loved it ❤
Could you do another challenge? 1 machine, but must follow the 3,2,1 backup. Also, it must be accessible from outside the network and include streaming, Minecraft, photo, and file backup from a remote family machine. Make the budget $300 each. Hell, I'll even put up the $600 for it.
That sounds oddly specific 😉
@@davidl6566 indeed. It’s because no one has done it yet. My offer still stands though.
“This series is sponsored by YourPCMd and SquareSpace”
@@arturosann7016 indeed. And the offer still stands. And I am kinda in the middle of where Raid Owl and Haven are it seems.
Cool stuff to watch, and for those people just starting out, like students who have little in the way of income then you have a winner here.
I think you did really well with the restrictions you had... some bad rolls there... if you had "no limitations/restrictions" but still 200 budget... what would you have done different?
I would love to see another run with 200 dollar budget but 4 rolls from the get go.... 2 with limitations (like no ebay, no amazon, run specific os etc.) 1 with a bonus (like 20 dollars more, remove 1 limitation and such... I am sure you can come up with some good ones) 1 with a downside (have to use zfs, nas case or whatever)
Then a special wheel with a mix where you can use 10 dollars from your budget to get 1 extra roll (again chance for 20 dollars, or a limitation or get 1 item (roll item wheel))
I would like to see a part 2, but have a slightly higher budget and a critera of must include router, switch, UPS, nas, and virtualization and onsite backup. Even rackmount could be a cool critera (albeit expensive). Even if the router and nas are virtualized on a single box. I think the wheel spin was fun, but honestly would have preferred more critera.
You made me look, I had forgotten my 3620s had nvme slots! I got it top make server/NAS.
This was a really cool challenge, and although I'd have taken the money and left the country (I'm FREEEEEEE!!) I think it would be interesting if you both try to wind up at the same place... like a list of specific services each machine needs to run or provide. Although it was kind of fun to see you guys squirm when it was time to spin the wheel...
*Next challenge* Go the other way: The $5000 DataCenter sponsored by [fill in the blank]. Redundant servers, storage, network, and battery backup. Working VM failover, full automated backups. Kubernetes cluster. Media server for family and live-stream library archive, Video inputs for live-stream external cameras, All gaming and editing systems exist in VM. Remote desktops a plus. Rack optional. Things to think about: Large storage, Low latency for editing media, starting a stream, or VM boot disks.
And at the end, you give it away to someone. (not me.. don't need it) The tutorial content alone would be interesting. The wheel spin would be interesting to limit choices (power limits), or require crazy choices (100Gb networking).
Mannnnnn I’d love to do that haha
How'd you connect your NAS storage to your proxmox instance for Backups?
Looking to do something similar when I get my NAS all setup and I don't think backups are supported over iSCSI.
what command did you run for the cpu usage shown at 16:04? Looks awesome
S-TUI
LET'S GO!!!
HYPEEEE
You might have just solved an issue I have with an old switch I have and the web portal. Didn’t think about TLS 1.0! Doh!
That NAS GUI looks very similar to the planet NAS i have here, super old stuff and no support for disks bigger than 2TB.
Dude! You should be chuffed. I think the outdated NAS adds to your system, with a separate, dedicated storage device.
Obviously, anyone would add more storage down the road, but to hit the ground running with that setup for just $200 USD is pretty impressive.
Also, around 80w under load is also pretty great. Personally, I'm not a fan of the low power ARM CPUs - they're either too constricting, or for really good performance, too expensive.
I think, based on your challenge mandate, you've already won. And once you compare it to the nightstand "mother of jank" competition, well... there's no question. Why didn't he mount the PC INSIDE the cabinet? There was room, it just needed a little creativity.
Anyway, good luck with the stream tonight - soon I guess. If you don't win, the fix is in. Your $200 system rocks.
Good idea for a challenge. Do another.
Love this series. Great content. I hope you do more of these. Funny bit: "I'm petty" and "I'm thick skinned" in the same video LOL. I guess they are not necessarily the same issue... although petty is typically seen as: care too much about small, unimportant things and perhaps that they are unnecessarily unkind... which does NOT seem like a thick skinned quality.
I guess particular things get under that thick skin... like dumb people lecturing you about used hardware. There are things "designed" to be mobile, desktop, workstation, server... but after initial sale/ market... it's how it's USED that counts. Besides, Dell will sell you a rack mount workstation and a desktop server as long as it "sounds" or "looks" good.
If I would build a NAS with my $209 I would probably get a super micro machine. And more hdd snd the mic, plus the UPS.
Tech Grandma has already won.
I haven't seen the live stream yet but I'm pretty sure you won!
the old RAIDator inteface from ReadyNAS, good times......
Kill me
The last spin having "no amazon" or "no ebay" is kinda dumb when you already assembled most of it
True, we learned some things on what not to do if we do this again
Nothing being done while am here! Pans camera 🤣
"Nothing being done while I'm here"... immediately pans to wifey
lol wait…
Wifeysauce looked very unamused also. 😇
What is the stress testing tool you ran on the server near the end of he video
S-TUI
looking fwd 2 it
Hey man much love From Pakistan!
Been watching your videos for some time now and I gotta say that you've really inspired me to get into servers
Keep up the good work ❤ 💪
Bar Harbor! I like the shirt
My mommy got it for me! 😊
2.5Gb networking and off the shelf NAS, not a good combination
2:13 No comment. (But nice...)
You can run ZFS on a single drive (so you probably could just run it on single 512GB ssd instead of 2 x 256GB). Obviously, it would not be redundant (ie not a zraid1).
Yeah but that’s lame
in what country is saturday the day after thanksgiving? Time stamp 8.44 lol. Love it tho
Well you see…in my religion we actually celebrate Thanksgiving on Friday. Pilgrimism is de way. Or maybe…I had holiday brain lol
am I the only one who hears that high frequency whine / noize ? Otherwise the video is great! thanks
That was the NAS
What's up Owl?
Imagine being the guy who messaged Raid Owl to tell him what a server is..... lol
Akshuallyyyyy 🤓
$200 home lab to arab emiratexpo homes 2024
I had (probably still do somewhere) that NAS, it's awful. 😂 It was utterly useless 11 years ago, I hate to think how bad it is now.
It’s great! 🙃
I can’t think for myself I wasn’t told what to comment I can’t take this I’m going insane
Damn…deleting my channel
I use windows for only the most essential programs..... Like fortnite.
*flosses*
Widows?...lol blocked.
Nah that was my wife with me in Mexico
@@RaidOwl Tryin to make a joke about Windows but typoed 👼
Haha yeah I figured 😉