If he'd kept the headphones off and listened in, he could have listened to Ben using an oscilloscope to decrypt a controller protocol that was fully mapped out ten years ago, enumerate the pieces of hardware inside a cheap ARM SoC-based system, or replace a piece of wire with a longer piece of wire.
11:55 "I2C, From what I understand it's meant to be used on a system, it's not necessarily supposed to be used with wires." Pins 15 and 16 of HDMI are an I2C bus used to deliver the EDID data, as are pins 6 and 7 of DVI, and DisplayPort's DisplayID standard uses it as well (although in a slightly modified form).
Peter Tardent same here. Plus I have Amazon prime and that's taking a toll on my wallet lol. I can afford it it's just that I can't stop buying random stuff that I "need".
I've heard the short cords were to ensure the unit is next to the player so you can reset/power on/off easily (I believe you need to reset in order to change games/return to the menu). So a nice mod would be to run a reset or power button out to the controller!
I still love that when someone off loaded the games to an sd card they found that the Nes Classic used the same ROMs online. Even had the header file that the guy who downloaded them from original cartridges added. Why completely remake games when you can emulate and have someone else rip the files for you.
I like that he's doing his best to understand everything you say. He seems to be having some difficulties which is understandable because he's new to this but from what I've seen you're good at explaining
Thank you for forcing Ben to bandage those hamburger meat thumbs. The close-ups are much easier to watch now. This was a cool episode. Neat to see the button behavior on the scope.
The XBOX One controller dongle works with Windows 7 aswell. It's just the audio output on the controller that isn't working with windows versions less than 10.
Ben Heck, would it be possible to adapt a mSD card slot or even a JTAG port to add or remove ROMs from this system? Wouldn't that be great if you were not limited to the selection of games Nintendo picked for you? Cheers!
@14:30 "The XBOX ONE Dongle ONLY works in windows 10" => Not true, you can find the Windows 7+ compatible drivers on the actual Microsoft website for the dongle. It's marketed as "only for Windows 10" and it will work out of the box with it, but they actually have the proper drivers for older Windows too.
I so would have made a micro USB out on the controllers, so you could leave the cables as they were, and detach them from the controller, and maybe use them for something else as well, but mostly because it may may handy to have them seperate for storing them or whatever. Does that work ? Or is there a reason why that is a very bad idea ?
they release the xbone drivers for windows 7 and 8.1 due to the fact that the xbone s controller now works with just Bluetooth and the demand for the controller to be able to be used with windows 7 and 8.1
why didnt you just change out the controller ports for USB types so you can plug any controller in. You can just get yourself a USB NES controller and if you need more length you get the USB extenders.
can you make a top loading 8 track player with blue tooth? I'd love to see 8 tracks make a small come back. a top loader that displays the tapes art on table while listening via blue tooth would be sweet!
That would require finding some plugs to use, they aren't sold since they're proprietary. So they would have to be sacrificed from something else. Plus there are concerns about noise for an IC2 bus.
Can you not use transceiver chip that can interface into fibre optic cable which connects into a transceiver chip which connects to the motherboard of the Nintendo Classic Mini.
I have the actual Nintendo NES, not the NES classic. I found that this was interesting primarily because my friend does have a NES classic that he bought years ago. They do have ridiculously short cords that could damage the entire system if one got into really aggressive game play.
They could have added a small switch as the select button from the pro controller. That button acts as a reset button on the classic. This way you wouldn't need to be near the console to switch games.
I'd wager 99% of people laugh at his jokes/impressions because Ben is such a sweet adorable little cutie. I mean, surely you'd have to be a dead cruel meanie not to!
They could've made this 22min video a 1min video by just adding more wire and be done with it. He could've used that extra 21min to work on the N64 project.
I have always respected Ben Heck's work but this just seems like an unnecessarily mod as you can get a 3M / 10ft extension cable off ebay for $2 - $3 without Butchering the original controller and spending a bunch of time.
I like how Felix put headphones on after minute 4 when the banter got to the point of redundant and ridiculous.
Ahmet Uzun and he is chugging some sort of drink. I don't think any soda I know of that's dark in color and comes in a green bottle lol.
I immediately noticed that too... made me laugh so hard.
If he'd kept the headphones off and listened in, he could have listened to Ben using an oscilloscope to decrypt a controller protocol that was fully mapped out ten years ago, enumerate the pieces of hardware inside a cheap ARM SoC-based system, or replace a piece of wire with a longer piece of wire.
The unsung hero haha
11:55 "I2C, From what I understand it's meant to be used on a system, it's not necessarily supposed to be used with wires." Pins 15 and 16 of HDMI are an I2C bus used to deliver the EDID data, as are pins 6 and 7 of DVI, and DisplayPort's DisplayID standard uses it as well (although in a slightly modified form).
I bought some Wii controller extensions. Works fine.
Peter Tardent it's easy to go out and buy a cable extender but it's more fun and special to make your own
With my skill and abilities I'm sure to burn the house down! It was the safer option lol
Peter Tardent same here. Plus I have Amazon prime and that's taking a toll on my wallet lol. I can afford it it's just that I can't stop buying random stuff that I "need".
pfff the neZ mini extension cord are like 6bucks the pack of 2...
Tailslol exactly the same cable with a different name slapped on it. That's about all I paid for mine too.
I've heard the short cords were to ensure the unit is next to the player so you can reset/power on/off easily (I believe you need to reset in order to change games/return to the menu). So a nice mod would be to run a reset or power button out to the controller!
love the eevblog reference
Lol I scrolled down to see if anyone else got it.
Me too
I wonder if it was sarcastic or a genuine shout out?
I still love that when someone off loaded the games to an sd card they found that the Nes Classic used the same ROMs online. Even had the header file that the guy who downloaded them from original cartridges added. Why completely remake games when you can emulate and have someone else rip the files for you.
OMG portable NES Classic .. Yes please!!!!!
Ohhhhh Bens Tommy impression is some of the best stuff to see xD
Ha! I love the Dave Jones reference. We're in like flynn (SIC??)
Bobby dazzler
it wins the eevblog retarded product of the week award! or idea of the week...Nintendo discontinued it
I like that he's doing his best to understand everything you say. He seems to be having some difficulties which is understandable because he's new to this but from what I've seen you're good at explaining
Guys!
I liked the live stream yesterday but 2 things: 1. announce it 1 or 2 days before it starts 2. enable chat (4fun)
thx
Stream was announced a week before. Was even a video notice that showed up in the sub stream to set a reminder.
okey. Didnt catch that :(
OMGs!!! The tease with the very last line of the video! Awesome.
I love your random references of anything from Marie-Antoinette to Bob Ross! Subbed!
We're in like flynn. Good job Dave, even these guys watch you.
Felix couldn't take it anymore!!! put'n on the headset .. classic
Thank you for forcing Ben to bandage those hamburger meat thumbs. The close-ups are much easier to watch now. This was a cool episode. Neat to see the button behavior on the scope.
"Right, ok. I understand completely"
YOU ARE TEARING MY NES APART LISA!
love the show, from Brazil
A fun video to watch !
WOAH WOAH WOAH THERE!!!! 2:18...HE DID IT, HE FINALLY SMILED!!
They updated the xbone dongle for windows 8 and 7!! I ran out and bought one as soon as they read the article.
19:20 turn auto caption on and look at the silliness that it says when Ben does his music impreasions
Tennis a nerd and indigenous been insensitive and dented and did it.
(hilarious!)
Mac Donalds it is silly...I just realized I misspelled it when u pointed it out
Portable NES Classic, great idea ben!
Felix was laughing in the background. I love Felix.
The XBOX One controller dongle works with Windows 7 aswell. It's just the audio output on the controller that isn't working with windows versions less than 10.
I usually refer to it as the N...E...S... "Eny Es"
Liofa yes, but then it should be written N.E.S. it's the only spelling rule in English which is clear.
It's canon that Dr. Mario is a self credited Doctor and not officially recognized by any major party as a legitimate doctor.
9:37 "4 bits is a nipple"
Space Kitty it's nibble, but he has a b/p b
I thought I was the only one who heard that!
Thought I may have been a little...
Or buy the NES classic extension cable.
Ben Heck, would it be possible to adapt a mSD card slot or even a JTAG port to add or remove ROMs from this system? Wouldn't that be great if you were not limited to the selection of games Nintendo picked for you? Cheers!
3:22 - David thinking "What did I get myself into?"
that guy was a cool guest! you should find an excuse to have him on again!
so now can you figure out how to clone the system since Nintendo stopped making them?
buy a 3d printed case that looks the same, put a raspberry pi in it. I made one and its great.
@14:30 "The XBOX ONE Dongle ONLY works in windows 10" => Not true, you can find the Windows 7+ compatible drivers on the actual Microsoft website for the dongle. It's marketed as "only for Windows 10" and it will work out of the box with it, but they actually have the proper drivers for older Windows too.
What were you doing that made you hurt both your thumbs?
I so would have made a micro USB out on the controllers, so you could leave the cables as they were, and detach them from the controller, and maybe use them for something else as well, but mostly because it may may handy to have them seperate for storing them or whatever.
Does that work ? Or is there a reason why that is a very bad idea ?
Should have added the option to reset directly on the controller like the Wii one can with the home button.
A Portable NES Mini would be very great to see, if you ever get your hands on your own.
"We soldered it really good" - Ben Heck, 2017
oh Ben. you are tearing me apart!
"YOU'RE TEARING ME APART BEN!!!" -Controller
the tommy wisseau impression was spot on
5:11 Dave Jones thanks you!
Is it possible an RGB/Composite signal direct from the pcb?
Why did you splice the wires outside the plug and not hide then inside it?
they release the xbone drivers for windows 7 and 8.1 due to the fact that the xbone s controller now works with just Bluetooth and the demand for the controller to be able to be used with windows 7 and 8.1
I bought a classic controller extender to use for a project and they used red for ground. I lost my damn mind.
why didnt you just change out the controller ports for USB types so you can plug any controller in.
You can just get yourself a USB NES controller and if you need more length you get the USB extenders.
your tommy wisseau laugh is next level
im just waiting to see the nes classic edition portable now :D
We dont come here for the "mobile game-play". we want this guy taking stuff apart, and then putting it back together in weird ways
Why wouldn't he open the Wii/NES connector instead of splicing the connector cable and the USB cable together?
Ben, you are the Bob Ross of electronics.
This episode got a lot better when I muted it.
"Ohhhh, that Nintendo reset button feeeels so good" and a meme is born.
can you make a top loading 8 track player with blue tooth? I'd love to see 8 tracks make a small come back. a top loader that displays the tapes art on table while listening via blue tooth would be sweet!
Ben rocking that 1988 Dad Sweater pretty hard.
2017: Pronouncing 'NES' as 'nezz,' when everyone else has been spelling it out like since forever...
@4:21 the guy in the back reaches for the headphones cause he’s tired of listening to the jokes,heh heh heh
Could you have wired up an extension cable instead (male and female header)? Or would that have added to much noise to the controller signal?
That would require finding some plugs to use, they aren't sold since they're proprietary. So they would have to be sacrificed from something else. Plus there are concerns about noise for an IC2 bus.
Can you not use transceiver chip that can interface into fibre optic cable which connects into a transceiver chip which connects to the motherboard of the Nintendo Classic Mini.
My nibbles explode with delight
the more I watch, the more I'm liking Karen, I was initially upset about losing Alison, but here we are
The Tommy Wiseau impressions really make the video lol
::snips connector off wire:: "Let them eat cake." Classic.
Nice sweaters, boys.
WOW, the tommy impression is on-point!!!!!
Could you somehow bypass the rgb to HDMI and get a pure RGB signal?
I have the actual Nintendo NES, not the NES classic. I found that this was interesting primarily because my friend does have a NES classic that he bought years ago. They do have ridiculously short cords that could damage the entire system if one got into really aggressive game play.
i have a wireless dongle for xbox 1 and it works on windows 7....
I feel like Ben will do a nes mini portable
great Tommy wisseau impression! :D
is there any way to lix the lag in the controller?
2:58 that Felix eyebrow raise.
NES Classic laptop?
dave jones at spotted @ 5:12
I wonder how it will compare to a Raspberry Pi with Retro Pi.
They could have added a small switch as the select button from the pro controller. That button acts as a reset button on the classic. This way you wouldn't need to be near the console to switch games.
still haven't seen a single one in stores yet
I sub-ed when Ben knew the Mega Man 2 song by heart.
I'd wager 99% of people laugh at his jokes/impressions because Ben is such a sweet adorable little cutie.
I mean, surely you'd have to be a dead cruel meanie not to!
You're tearing me apart Benny.
Ben's surprise face reminds me of LazyGameReviews :)
this is a very interesting idea
"thats a bobby dazzler!"
I2C on a 2m cable? You're braver than I thought!
you can buy a cord extension
They could've made this 22min video a 1min video by just adding more wire and be done with it.
He could've used that extra 21min to work on the N64 project.
Hello, please could you do something with R.O.B, that old classic robot made for NES... Maybe Ben could give R.O.B a better use than it have now. =D
Let them eat cake, he said...
19:23 Anyone know where I can download an emulator for the BenHeck audio synthesizer?
I have always respected Ben Heck's work but this just seems like an unnecessarily mod as you can get a 3M / 10ft extension cable off ebay for $2 - $3 without Butchering the original controller and spending a bunch of time.
the xbox wireless dongle is also working with win 7 and 8,1!!!
couldnt he open the plug and directly solder it to the plug itself instead of soldering the 2 small ends together ?
Runs the risk of breaking the plug, I've tried before and had disastrous results.
Thank god you finally put band aids on.
Not "ness" or "nez", it's N-E-S!
2:17 Felix laughing behind :)
What's the difference between a geek and a nerd? One of them knows what serial data/clock are, the other stands next to him ironically.
oh 'The Room'... a cult classic!
Nintendo saves money and they are using me, and I am the fool.
So is he going to make it into an all in one portable?