Thanks for enjoying the episode everyone, the comments have been extremely fun so far. I do hope people looking to get into the game get some actual knowledge out of the rather clickbait setup for the challenge. A LOT of effort went into this one, hopefully it shows. I also learned the UK's criminally low prices INCLUDE TAX? So your prices are actually like 10-20% lower than they look already? We need to colonize the UK so we can get ahold of cheaper minis. Links for people interested in helping out the show: Merch: orchideight.com/collections/poorhammer Patreon: www.patreon.com/SolelySingleton (I promise we won't spend it all on more challenge ideas, some of it might even go to Berilio.)
I went through a really old flash drive from 2005.. (25 mb) I had a screen shot on it of an imperial guard army I wanted to eventually get. 3 boxes of Cadians (20 guys per box), ~$27 per box, 2 leman russ, ~$29 per box, Basilisk, ~$27 per box, and a Heavy weapon team ~$27 (3 hwts per box).... yeah it was kind of sad.
I saw a post on the Emperor's Children sub reddit the other day, about a guy who posted that white Egyptian guy titled "Us" on the Thousand Sons reddit and got banned immediately. The people in the EC all laughs while the Ksons banned him. Lore accurate I say.
@@skillfulwave6592 I think AoS is a quite a bit harder for this just because the secondary market is so much smaller. Still you see an okay amount of stuff going up on MiniSwap.
Omg is this the fated "affordable armies episode three where they get fed up and talk about 3d printers" episode that was foretold in the ancient myths??? I never thought I'd see the day
Also, speaking of taxes - "when you see a price you assume that's plus tax..." [laughs in Australian, where it is literally illegal for a stated shelf-price to not include tax] Hooray for good consumer protection laws! EDIT: bartering with the kangaroos is generally fine, but watch out for the magpies, they're worse than the card games corner of eBay =P
@@KittyFaerie1 Yeah, hearing "when you see a price you assume that's plus tax" as a european is so incredibly funny. I don't even know what the current tax rate is and I literally could not care less.
An army painting race would be fun, or maybe a budget army painting video where you only use budget tools to paint your armies to stick on theme with being on a budget.
Define budget. I mean, I can get an airbrush and a pump for 35 bucks shipped with prime. A gallon of distilled water is 1.39, and each color is 58 cents.
On the issue you guys had with finding good deals for guard, the Guard community is famously thrifty and has a habit of swooping up any “fair” deals immediately. It’s the equivalent of ork players always kitbashing that Guard players are always looking for good deals to expand their armies.
If sellers don't want 'low balls' they can set a min and it gets auto rejected. Without a min you'd be surprised how little people will let something go for just to get rid of it.
The best and cheapest way to build a SM army is just to buy HH stuff. You get 20 marines for 70 bucks. Slap the right weapon on them, and you are good as green. You also get 10 terminators for 80. For vehicles, they are the easiest thing to find on eBay.
This is a very good idea, the way that 30k marines are equipped means that the units transfere to primaris single- weapon units really easily. Buying one box of tactical marines and a weapon upgrade kit can get you 5 "intercessors" 10 "hellblasters" and 5 "infernus squads" for one example. The rhino variants are all gorgeous, new models that are great to put together (with the exception of one part that's a pain) and the land raider proteus is a great model as well.
@@ergonamix9977 does the new mk. 3 come with special weapons? I'm not sure about getting the old tactical squads, as the weapon upgrade kits are made to directly fit into specific poses in the new kits.
Saw someone selling a tau lot near my city back in the fall for 300$. Guy had 300$ worth of unopened crisis boxes alone, along with a couple tanks, speeders, big mechs, and at least 40 troops from what I remember. Between jobs and still am so I couldn't justify spending the money, but I would have been SET if I could have picked it up.
Europeans, if you don't know. US sale taxes are variable local taxes on basically everything. They vary by 4%-10%, but plan on 7%-10% is smart. The federal taxes on gasoline/petrol or liquor is included in the price. Welcome to the USA!
In Europe, sales taxes are also variable local taxes that vary greatly from country to country. And the EU mandates that prices shown include sales tax for full transparency pre purchase. Welcome to Europe 😂
It's not just Europe tho.. only the USA and Canada do not include the full price on the tag. Most places use the full price. Definitely bias, but it always feel weird, because those taxes are know before the purchase and think it's weird that it is blammed on the store even tho it is the store who pays those taxes and should be included in the price. There is no tax man who runs in stores raising prices how it sometimes feels in America. It is not a big thing and it is just what you are used to, but it is one of those things I will never understand probably
Alright, this week's shill% times are 0:35 for merch (Disqualified; "This is not just a shilling") and Patreon at 2:34 (and 3:14). The Pleasantries% time is 57:14. Calling me out in the episode shall not grant you any favors, hence me disqualifying the merch shout out... but I may buy a mug.
This is how I plan on painting my loyalist Space Marines. They're gonna be mid-activation of cloaking devices, so I can paint them partially in loyalist color schemes, and partially in Alpha Legion heraldry.
So as a fairly new Guard player, a guy with a lasgun is a guy with a lasgun. Only problem with the Solar Auxiliaria which are beautiful sculpts is no special weapons. Same with the Russes, they’re great, but no sponsons, I hear you might have a solution I don’t have to that problem named 3d printing. I do think a truer Guard list would even now have a little indirect, but there are definitely people Guard who run tank spam, or all infantry or other meme lists. You did great, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
My idea for what to do with the models. You send them around to as many 40k/painting RUclipsrs as you can and say they can get content. Have them paint up a unit, then rank all of them on a tier list against each other.
There was a popular eBay scam a couple months ago where people were listing hard to find minis but just the box for it? Like the box that the sprues come in, and nothing else. Almost got tricked into buying a loonshrine box that way before I realized.
If you do the 3D printing version of this episode down the line, please make sure to reach out to creators and ask if they're ok with being featured on a video with such a topic, for the sake of their legal safety.
I'm sorry, but if a 3d model creator is that scared of legal safety because they deliberately made models that are 99% close to official GW models, it's the creators fault
Hey this sounds fun, let’s try… UK pricing (that all include tax), 25% LGS discount. Guess every single army fits. It may be cold, miserable, and we’re terrible at all the sports we invented. But you can’t take the fact GW stuff is only very overpriced rather than extremely overpriced here away ;) Although pour one out for NZ/AUS…
I have accidentally done the $500 challenge for knights at MSRP over the course of like 3 years. I live in Canada, so converting USD to CAD I have a budget of $682 I started off in December 2021 getting a knight castellan for $190, and a box of helverins for $85. Later that month I got a box of warglaves for $90. At the end of 2022 I got the chain breaker lance for $250 I am now the proud owner of: 1 knight castellan (525 pts for $190) 2 armiger warglaves (300 pts for $90) 2 armiger helverins (280 pts for $85) Chain breaker lance ($250) 1 knight errant (405 pts) 2 armiger helverins (290 pts) 2 armiger warglaves (300 pts) Total points: 2090 Total cost in CAD: $615 Total cost converting to USD: $450.77 TLDR if your faction has a really good Christmas box, consider buying it. I got 3 free little knights for its cost
Money question: which kits and how many would you have to buy in the UK and then sell at US prices to pay for the trip? Assuming the cost for a round trip at $1000, and no additional cost for shoving them in a big duffel bag or suitcase
When I went to the UK for work I went with a huge empty suitcase and filled it up with warhammer boxes, I placed an order with wayland and had it delivered to the hotel
„You‘re not supposed to just spend $500 all at once“ Me, who definitely didn’t just buy five daemon princes because I wanted one for each god plus a undivided one. I don’t even play Daemons. Please, send help.
ironic that you call the Death Guard, Necrons, Tyranid half of the intro boxes the "little brother army." when I got the 8th edition box as my 1st 40k thing, I took the death guard half because I wanted the cool bad guys, and I gave my little brother the lame space marine half
The £ literally being worth $1.28 dollars right now. Also buys way more Warhammer cos they make it here and most of the 3rd party stores ship within the UK for free. So the Adeptus Custodes combat patrol is (logging into the Warhammer store as if I am from the US) $168, which by exchange would be £131, but the combat patrol from GW in England is £100, ($128), and from a third party store I can get the Custodes combat patrol for £80, ($102), with free delivery. So getting an army for $500 in the UK is honestly way way easier, that is around £390, you could also literally get it all new and no ebay needed. US and Australia/NZ especially a lot harder to do 40k on a budget I think.
Brad: "This is insanity land. Do not buy a 2000 point army to start off" Me: *Hides my 7 2000+ point armies I bought in a year since starting* Over 4k in a lot of those because I have issues
Idea for "outsourcing" the painting process: Bricky has a couple of Vtubers he's been streaming with lately that have expressed at least a passing interest in 40K tabletop. Perhaps he could convince them to do a 'yapping a painting' stream with a couple of them while you three answer their lore questions? Alternatively, partnering with Ninjon or PlayOn or Squidmar to paint one of the armies could get it done. Or you could host a painting competition where you establish the paint scheme and the contestants pick a unit and get to painting. Yes, there will be some stylistic and skill level differences, but the army would def be unique. And as long as you established the exact colors to be used, then the army will still look cohesive. Winner can get a swag box or a VTT game with you two or get to be a guest on an episode to talk about mini painting or something.
Troll Trader is an amazing place to purchase second hand models for folks in the US. Yes, they're in the UK, but the shipping to the US is cheap flat rate (8 British bucks I think.) The models always come packed very well. Shipping takes about 2 weeks. Their selection is massive - stuff on spure, built, partially painted, and fully painted, etc.
FYI. CSM gets cheaper to buy because Chosen technically are so close to Legionaries that you can run them as Chosen instead. Just pose em differently. So CSM gets closer to "This is cheating" tier.
I bought my first army from a Craigslist posting of someone local selling 2500 poi to of space marines, I think it was like a double of the 2nd or 3rd edition starter set assembled and painted, for $500 with a large Crystal Cases case. I met, talk3d to the guy, and told him about it being my first Amy, and he cut me a deal for $300 and a promise to send him a few pictures of it being played. We shook hands and I stuck to the deal. I still have that as a sizable section of my army, and despite them being surfs I doubt I'll repaint them because of the memory
This is a great video, I like the idea of getting each of the members in your play group to paint one of the armies and then y’all can do showcases of the armies and maybe use them in a hoard mode or a crazy 4-person battle
One thing to keep in mind with second hand miniatures is that there is no guarantee for the level of modelling quality if that's something you care of. Uncleaned mould lines and thick paint are a thing. If you just want to play, then it's fine. But turning them to an army that also looks good will take extra effort.
brake fluid, greenstuff and a drill are my friends for these "rescues" strip paint, fix any holes and maybe even add more holes for "battle damage" and then paint.
My parents are currently in Sweden, so I asked them to pick up a Mk. III tactical squad kit for me. It would cost 134 AUD here. There, it costs around about 90 AUD. So yeah, handy tip: if you want cheap WH kits, go to Europe.
I found this episode compelling, as someone who has been buying classic 40k models on ebay with absolutely no intention of it turning into a full army.
What hurts me right now is that I haven't finished my first two armies, I've been looking at necrons, and now you just gave me hope for guard. I really want to build a Canadian themed Guard army... Because using it in 40K just makes the Geneva checklist joke even better
Raffle one of the armies off, the person chooses which one out of the armies they want// Then have a competition between yourselves and the person that wins the army in an epic paint off!
As someone who plays guard, I'm gonna come out and say it; That list is neat. It's probably not gonna do great against Khorne and Orks, but it's still a good fun list. I'm honestly more disappointed you didn't do the meme list of 4 Baneblade variants and Lord Solar (because it's funny; 1 Baneblade, 1 Stormlord, 1 Stormsword, 1 Shadowsword, and 1 Lord Solar).
"When you see a price tag, you always assume 'plus tax', that's just how it works." It definitely isn't in the civilised parts of the globe, no. When I see a price tag, I assume that's the literal amount of money I have to fork over and then I'm done with it.
You should do a paint challenge! Maybe keep it to poorhammer crew or maybe bricky and friends? Tell us how yall tackle painting and the entire army in 1 week? 2 weeks? A reasonable month? I'd love to hear a 2-3 hr episode with interviews with how everyone tackled it, what quality they got it to, etc. I know logistically. You all said 4 was the max for episode cast, but I see poorhammer constantly pushing their own evolope, so now that yall have the armies.... gotta paint em!
Paying my taxes for looking (but not skipping, we don't condone time travel) ahead. Also thanks for showing us the miniswap subreddit, plan to make some use of it later to get MOAR ORKZ.
maybe do a campaign? each player has to build and paint the part of their army that is necessary for the next fight without having to paint the full army. and with generous time limits between each fight this could make a good and fun set of videos that show how you build, paint and play your new forces.
Im gonna be honest, the WHOLE TIME I was listening i was like "this is cool, shame the only mention of my beloved guard is gonna be possibly bullying cadians again" and then you ACTUALLY HAD IT, my day is made
I was getting really hyped for this, and then realised I in am a child living in Australia and 500 dollars plus shipping is equivalent to roughly 1000 dollars. Sigh
The return of the king 👑👑👑 ..... Of saving money.... Also berelio you used the land raider crusader in the bataslate episode no the land raider redeemer
Joke's on you, I was looking BACK because I started watching baseball and came back to credits! Seriously though, these videos are super helpful for people like me who have a limited budget, and it's really appreciated.
Honestly the CSM story is almost note for note how I built mine at a budget. Just bought bits on the cheap, 3d printed stuff, and got 2nd hand stuff. Good that you guys are spreading awareness on how you guys got the models though!
The *only* issue with the new leman russ is the lack of sponsons, and I mean... you can just glue some spare guns on somewhere or the like if you're really worried there or just say "oh it's got heavy bolters or plasma or whatever". Otherwise it's a beauty and I'm planning to get some myself at some point given I already play and love tank guard.
Ironically I asked on Reddit if someone has had experience with the combat Patrols and know which factions are close match. Ofc I got spammed with all of them all balanced equally and that I am the only one who think some match-ups do not feel fair as a starting match
Now this was a great way for me to live vicariously through you and get hyped about all the pile of potential to paint. I also do this with one guy in our play group who hits our and he comes home with so many armies… one of these days I’m going to build a knights army by occasional purchases at the store.
With the latest points increases Sisters are actually probably incredibly doable. I got to 1600 points just throwing some combat patrols (1 old one and 1 new one) and characters (and some paragons) in my Amazon cart and if you're actually bargain hunting you could definitely get there.
Just punched it in, and back in the Imperium magazine days, if you managed to pick up 3 copies of each Sisters issue (except only one of the Canoness), with current points you'd come in at just over 2k for just over half the budget. Even in Australia you'd only be sitting at just over 75% budget!
I finally had time to finish all Rememberances and Bayle. Going to really enjoy doing randomizer runs with the DLC weapons in the pool for unique feeling runs. Berilio is still mid DLC because someone made him spend 12 days tinkering with the editing on this episode.
I loved this! As someone recently buying minis, this was great. Sitting on a bunch of Tau from like 15 years ago, kept watching as many different market places as I could looking for the old CP, so this all felt super relatable right now! Also had to keep telling myself to buy one thing at a time and not just jump to trying to finish off a whole 2k points. I'd love to see a video like this for AoS too if you guys ever end up doing more content for that.
One biggest factor is all the accessories you need to buy afterwards. For example… primer, paints, brushes, paints, a carry case, paints, dice, rulebooks, paints. With a Spearhead box, I’ve easily spent more to paint them than what the box cost to buy. Annoyingly when I decided to collect another faction / army, the paint scheme was completely different. There was few paints that both used.
Stopped buying GW a decade ago. Just an outright scam by a company who underpays their artists and denies them credit like the comic industry SIXTY years ago.
Not sure if this has been done before, or if it's a terrible idea, but a fun video idea is "What armies are the best looking/most fun to kitbash with Orks". Gives Eric a chance to really show off how fun and customizable an Ork army is.
Love this! I got into 40k this year (because Poorhammer kept playing after Solely Singleton episodes...) and I was able to build a Sisters army for less than $500. Found a great bulk deal of like 1250 points (Vahl, old Combat Patrol, Celestian Sacs, Paragon, etc.) on Miniswap for $250 and combined that with 2 of the old Combat Patrol that I got for $120 each on Amazon. Obviously not the best 2k army and I've spent too much since then, but I've been very happy with it.
Thanks for enjoying the episode everyone, the comments have been extremely fun so far. I do hope people looking to get into the game get some actual knowledge out of the rather clickbait setup for the challenge. A LOT of effort went into this one, hopefully it shows.
I also learned the UK's criminally low prices INCLUDE TAX? So your prices are actually like 10-20% lower than they look already? We need to colonize the UK so we can get ahold of cheaper minis.
Links for people interested in helping out the show:
Merch: orchideight.com/collections/poorhammer
Patreon: www.patreon.com/SolelySingleton
(I promise we won't spend it all on more challenge ideas, some of it might even go to Berilio.)
HAH, AMERICAN SALES TAX ISN'T INCLUDED!
Even then We brits still complain its too pricey
Time for reverse-American-Revolution?
Also, thank you Berílio!
If im not mistaken from "1st world countries" only USA doesnt include tax in their prices.
WAIT YOUR PRICES DONT?!
It wasn't a mistake. The cashier just assumed the price of the Rhino was wrong, as he knows Rhinos are free.
Oh god 2000$ ? Thats like half a mechanicus army right ?
How dare this man speak such truths Quet from GW
Mechanicus or Genestealer Cults
@@klausmarduke9711 naaah Genestealer cults have an awesome combat patrol you can buy it multiple times to... Aaaaand it's gone !
@@klausmarduke9711 GSC have bunch of cheap options lately. And you have the option put a bane blade.
@klausmarduke9711
I play both 😭
>sell truck loads of objective markers
>run out of material to make more
>do it again
>spend it all on models
Just as planned
Don't forget to write it off as a business expense
@@zerolightonyxsun8115we love tax write offs in this house
"You're not supposed to blow $500 at once"
You guys are lucky my wife was out of the house when you said this.
Haha same with their "$500 hobby dollars a year" comment... like they meant to say each month right??? Asking for a friend.
Prices two years ago: "2,000 points for $500!"
Prices now: "500 points for $2,000!"
It's sad but true
I started playing in 5th Ed…my, how the times have changed 😢
@@griffinkees9772I remember 2nd edition. Although it's not all bad - Rhinos used to cost £6 and now they're free.
@@griffinkees9772It's called inflation
I went through a really old flash drive from 2005.. (25 mb) I had a screen shot on it of an imperial guard army I wanted to eventually get.
3 boxes of Cadians (20 guys per box), ~$27 per box, 2 leman russ, ~$29 per box, Basilisk, ~$27 per box, and a Heavy weapon team ~$27 (3 hwts per box).... yeah it was kind of sad.
Brad came to my house and kicked my Watcher in the Dark. Refused to elaborate, and then crumbled into a pile of dust.
It's true.
Nah bro. lil due turned into a dark disciple for my Dark apostle. he appeared one day at the door with the message "My Dad hates me."
@Psykroids I'm glad he has a loving home now .
@@Psykroids and then he exploded for D3 mortal wounds
I saw a post on the Emperor's Children sub reddit the other day, about a guy who posted that white Egyptian guy titled "Us" on the Thousand Sons reddit and got banned immediately. The people in the EC all laughs while the Ksons banned him.
Lore accurate I say.
The Rhino is Free story was the best - almost priceless
Only reason it wasn't, it's cause it's a story, not a rhino
Give Berilio that army, he deserves some minis.
They should do an episode like this for AoS and give him that army
He deserves it especially after that vacation clip Show.
This!
He's too busy painting Death Guard
@@skillfulwave6592 I think AoS is a quite a bit harder for this just because the secondary market is so much smaller. Still you see an okay amount of stuff going up on MiniSwap.
Omg is this the fated "affordable armies episode three where they get fed up and talk about 3d printers" episode that was foretold in the ancient myths??? I never thought I'd see the day
Unfortunately not.
My comment got disproven the moment I got past the intro lmao
they do say "we will do that episode someday" at the 4min mark at least
SOON(tm)
Next price bump thatll be the one for sure.
Getting to a Poorhammer video in under a minute feels like a crime. I love it.
"$500 (=£390) is a decent hobby budget for a year."
Erm... Yeah so this was a wake up call.
They meant a month right ?...
@@dracometeors3010I hope so.
It's normal to have a pile of unbuilt and unpainted right?
@@stevesanderson4371 i don't but i pay damn good money to have Stuff that i enjoy painting.
Laughs in Skiing/Snowboarding
@@krald8421 I could spend $500 to go skiing like 6 times which is probably enough for me for a year.
"itll cost you an arm and a leg" buddy i play death guard we got plenty
Laughs in genestealer cults
@@skillfulwave6592 laughs in not having a million good discount options
tzeetch cultists
Where does it state it has to be YOUR arm and leg?
"Looking ahead is cheating..." - goddamn it, take your tax... XD
Also, speaking of taxes - "when you see a price you assume that's plus tax..."
[laughs in Australian, where it is literally illegal for a stated shelf-price to not include tax]
Hooray for good consumer protection laws!
EDIT: bartering with the kangaroos is generally fine, but watch out for the magpies, they're worse than the card games corner of eBay =P
@@KittyFaerie1 Yeah, hearing "when you see a price you assume that's plus tax" as a european is so incredibly funny. I don't even know what the current tax rate is and I literally could not care less.
@@phoenixdblack being ignorant about the tax rate is not a thing to be proud of
@@EndofTransmissiontheres nothing wrong with being a citizen of New Hampshire. Taxes are for lobsterbacks and Benedict Arnolds!
Comment of shame. I got caught lacking.
An army painting race would be fun, or maybe a budget army painting video where you only use budget tools to paint your armies to stick on theme with being on a budget.
Define budget.
I mean, I can get an airbrush and a pump for 35 bucks shipped with prime.
A gallon of distilled water is 1.39, and each color is 58 cents.
An army painting race between sisters and thousand suns... I suppose a tortoise race is still a race. 😂
Id still bet Eric would lose a painting race.
as an australian I can confirm i have brought many differnt 40k armies from local wildlife, a dingo sold my my space wolf army
On the issue you guys had with finding good deals for guard, the Guard community is famously thrifty and has a habit of swooping up any “fair” deals immediately.
It’s the equivalent of ork players always kitbashing that Guard players are always looking for good deals to expand their armies.
As a Guard player, this is 100% true. Will buy any wreck and make it battleworthy with a week or two in the shed.
well, what should i tell...
you just never finish collecting guard o7
@@joshuasutherland6692 oh yeah, the amount of "e-bay rescue" post you see on the official guard subreddit is kinda funny
You can find guard deals especially on the older plastic Cadians, but this is 100% true
if i had a podcast that made money, I'd use it to buy armies and put it under business expenses too.
If sellers don't want 'low balls' they can set a min and it gets auto rejected. Without a min you'd be surprised how little people will let something go for just to get rid of it.
germans are tough as nails, ive seen stuff not moving for years...
The best and cheapest way to build a SM army is just to buy HH stuff. You get 20 marines for 70 bucks. Slap the right weapon on them, and you are good as green. You also get 10 terminators for 80. For vehicles, they are the easiest thing to find on eBay.
This is a very good idea, the way that 30k marines are equipped means that the units transfere to primaris single- weapon units really easily. Buying one box of tactical marines and a weapon upgrade kit can get you 5 "intercessors" 10 "hellblasters" and 5 "infernus squads" for one example. The rhino variants are all gorgeous, new models that are great to put together (with the exception of one part that's a pain) and the land raider proteus is a great model as well.
@@BrandonL337 Amd get mk 3 or mk 4 for tactical squads since those kits get some special and heavy weapons.
@@ergonamix9977 does the new mk. 3 come with special weapons? I'm not sure about getting the old tactical squads, as the weapon upgrade kits are made to directly fit into specific poses in the new kits.
@@BrandonL337 huh, I guess it was the old kit. Either way, the mk. 4 still does
Saw someone selling a tau lot near my city back in the fall for 300$. Guy had 300$ worth of unopened crisis boxes alone, along with a couple tanks, speeders, big mechs, and at least 40 troops from what I remember. Between jobs and still am so I couldn't justify spending the money, but I would have been SET if I could have picked it up.
Europeans, if you don't know. US sale taxes are variable local taxes on basically everything. They vary by 4%-10%, but plan on 7%-10% is smart. The federal taxes on gasoline/petrol or liquor is included in the price. Welcome to the USA!
In Europe, sales taxes are also variable local taxes that vary greatly from country to country.
And the EU mandates that prices shown include sales tax for full transparency pre purchase.
Welcome to Europe 😂
It's not just Europe tho.. only the USA and Canada do not include the full price on the tag. Most places use the full price.
Definitely bias, but it always feel weird, because those taxes are know before the purchase and think it's weird that it is blammed on the store even tho it is the store who pays those taxes and should be included in the price. There is no tax man who runs in stores raising prices how it sometimes feels in America. It is not a big thing and it is just what you are used to, but it is one of those things I will never understand probably
They are happy then VAT tax on toys here is 22%.
The bottom end is 0% sales tax for a few states.
Buy in new Hampshire lol, no sales tax baybee
Don't do this don't do tax evasion this is not legal advice etc.
Alright, this week's shill% times are 0:35 for merch (Disqualified; "This is not just a shilling") and Patreon at 2:34 (and 3:14). The Pleasantries% time is 57:14.
Calling me out in the episode shall not grant you any favors, hence me disqualifying the merch shout out... but I may buy a mug.
The images of the Space Marines Brad bought is making think he's chasing his dream: Loyalist Alpha Legion
This is how I plan on painting my loyalist Space Marines. They're gonna be mid-activation of cloaking devices, so I can paint them partially in loyalist color schemes, and partially in Alpha Legion heraldry.
So as a fairly new Guard player, a guy with a lasgun is a guy with a lasgun. Only problem with the Solar Auxiliaria which are beautiful sculpts is no special weapons. Same with the Russes, they’re great, but no sponsons, I hear you might have a solution I don’t have to that problem named 3d printing. I do think a truer Guard list would even now have a little indirect, but there are definitely people Guard who run tank spam, or all infantry or other meme lists. You did great, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Also rule with Guard, if it’s good enough to run 1, run at least 2.
For the sponsons find another guard player the regular Russ kit comes with 4 sponsons I'm shure they'd be willing to hand over their unused ones.
I run the auxila as tempestus scions and the storm section guys with the volkite weapons as special weapon proxies.
@@ergonamix9977 Hmmm never thought of that. Arm swaps for the special weapons?
@@DaGoook same scale, so should work
Erica “sounds good” sounds super defeated today. You got this buddy.
Berillio said in their QnA video that he had an audio clip of Eric saying "sounds good" ready to be edited in should Eric fucks up that line.
My idea for what to do with the models. You send them around to as many 40k/painting RUclipsrs as you can and say they can get content. Have them paint up a unit, then rank all of them on a tier list against each other.
There was a popular eBay scam a couple months ago where people were listing hard to find minis but just the box for it? Like the box that the sprues come in, and nothing else. Almost got tricked into buying a loonshrine box that way before I realized.
they did that with the PS5 when it was getting scalped too
If you do the 3D printing version of this episode down the line, please make sure to reach out to creators and ask if they're ok with being featured on a video with such a topic, for the sake of their legal safety.
what do you mean? I'm sure the creators that do "Muscular Golden Space Janitors" have no idea their models can be used to play a wargame :P
@@Shield_OW Auspex took down a 3D model video after one of the creators freaked out. Asking first can't hurt.
I have faith in PH knowing enough and doing enough research to do that before hand.
Then there are the Chinese re-sculpts who don't give a sht as China doesn't now what IP infringement 😅
I'm sorry, but if a 3d model creator is that scared of legal safety because they deliberately made models that are 99% close to official GW models, it's the creators fault
Oh yeah, it’s Poorhammering time!
You came into the frey and just poor alver the place
Hey this sounds fun, let’s try… UK pricing (that all include tax), 25% LGS discount. Guess every single army fits.
It may be cold, miserable, and we’re terrible at all the sports we invented. But you can’t take the fact GW stuff is only very overpriced rather than extremely overpriced here away ;)
Although pour one out for NZ/AUS…
Yeeeep even at 21% 500$ AUD doesn't get you far
For $1000 (£776) I guarantee you can buy 2k of any army you want. Even admech or GSC.
I have accidentally done the $500 challenge for knights at MSRP over the course of like 3 years. I live in Canada, so converting USD to CAD I have a budget of $682
I started off in December 2021 getting a knight castellan for $190, and a box of helverins for $85. Later that month I got a box of warglaves for $90. At the end of 2022 I got the chain breaker lance for $250
I am now the proud owner of:
1 knight castellan (525 pts for $190)
2 armiger warglaves (300 pts for $90)
2 armiger helverins (280 pts for $85)
Chain breaker lance ($250)
1 knight errant (405 pts)
2 armiger helverins (290 pts)
2 armiger warglaves (300 pts)
Total points: 2090
Total cost in CAD: $615
Total cost converting to USD: $450.77
TLDR if your faction has a really good Christmas box, consider buying it. I got 3 free little knights for its cost
Damn I really liked the part where Brad said its brickin time and than bricky started yapping about sisters
I wish I could be certain if this is a joke or not.
Money question: which kits and how many would you have to buy in the UK and then sell at US prices to pay for the trip? Assuming the cost for a round trip at $1000, and no additional cost for shoving them in a big duffel bag or suitcase
New challenge episode unlocked.
When I went to the UK for work I went with a huge empty suitcase and filled it up with warhammer boxes, I placed an order with wayland and had it delivered to the hotel
It would likely be warhammer world exclusives like the fancy land raider that are the most profitable
Alternate title, "How I explained my recent Warhammer purchases to my wife!"
Justice for Berillo, he should have got a Death Guard army out of this with some free rhinos. He’s the real star of this show after all.
Kangaroos only tend to play Dark Eldar; tends to be harder to barter, now Koalas they're all Space Marine Players, can always get a good deal! ;)
love that 5 minutes in berilio shows the old tyranids combat patrol
„You‘re not supposed to just spend $500 all at once“
Me, who definitely didn’t just buy five daemon princes because I wanted one for each god plus a undivided one.
I don’t even play Daemons.
Please, send help.
The solar aux Russ sculpt is crispy AF
ironic that you call the Death Guard, Necrons, Tyranid half of the intro boxes the "little brother army." when I got the 8th edition box as my 1st 40k thing, I took the death guard half because I wanted the cool bad guys, and I gave my little brother the lame space marine half
The £ literally being worth $1.28 dollars right now. Also buys way more Warhammer cos they make it here and most of the 3rd party stores ship within the UK for free. So the Adeptus Custodes combat patrol is (logging into the Warhammer store as if I am from the US) $168, which by exchange would be £131, but the combat patrol from GW in England is £100, ($128), and from a third party store I can get the Custodes combat patrol for £80, ($102), with free delivery. So getting an army for $500 in the UK is honestly way way easier, that is around £390, you could also literally get it all new and no ebay needed. US and Australia/NZ especially a lot harder to do 40k on a budget I think.
Brad: "This is insanity land. Do not buy a 2000 point army to start off"
Me: *Hides my 7 2000+ point armies I bought in a year since starting*
Over 4k in a lot of those because I have issues
Idea for "outsourcing" the painting process: Bricky has a couple of Vtubers he's been streaming with lately that have expressed at least a passing interest in 40K tabletop. Perhaps he could convince them to do a 'yapping a painting' stream with a couple of them while you three answer their lore questions?
Alternatively, partnering with Ninjon or PlayOn or Squidmar to paint one of the armies could get it done.
Or you could host a painting competition where you establish the paint scheme and the contestants pick a unit and get to painting. Yes, there will be some stylistic and skill level differences, but the army would def be unique. And as long as you established the exact colors to be used, then the army will still look cohesive. Winner can get a swag box or a VTT game with you two or get to be a guest on an episode to talk about mini painting or something.
As a guard player, that list isn’t optimal but the fact that it was $500 is damn impressive. You earned my seal of approval.
Havent played a singel game in the current edition , but I fully agree that its damn impressive in that price range
That CSM tale alone was a roller coaster.
Troll Trader is an amazing place to purchase second hand models for folks in the US. Yes, they're in the UK, but the shipping to the US is cheap flat rate (8 British bucks I think.) The models always come packed very well. Shipping takes about 2 weeks. Their selection is massive - stuff on spure, built, partially painted, and fully painted, etc.
This! I got a bunch of the new guard models new on sprue for super cheap and they actually shipped to Alaska! Love that site.
22:38 "To spend for the year"
Eheh, yeah... the year... sure.
5:34 Not me, whos blown like $750+ since November 2023 on my first army, and thats not even accounting for all the third oarty kitbashing supplies 😅
FYI. CSM gets cheaper to buy because Chosen technically are so close to Legionaries that you can run them as Chosen instead. Just pose em differently. So CSM gets closer to "This is cheating" tier.
I bought my first army from a Craigslist posting of someone local selling 2500 poi to of space marines, I think it was like a double of the 2nd or 3rd edition starter set assembled and painted, for $500 with a large Crystal Cases case. I met, talk3d to the guy, and told him about it being my first Amy, and he cut me a deal for $300 and a promise to send him a few pictures of it being played. We shook hands and I stuck to the deal. I still have that as a sizable section of my army, and despite them being surfs I doubt I'll repaint them because of the memory
This is a great video, I like the idea of getting each of the members in your play group to paint one of the armies and then y’all can do showcases of the armies and maybe use them in a hoard mode or a crazy 4-person battle
Today I recieved my poorhammer objective markers and also a new video!! the momentum is perfect!!
Custodies players will soon come out as the wealthiest once FG dies because you don’t have to spend any money anymore.
One thing to keep in mind with second hand miniatures is that there is no guarantee for the level of modelling quality if that's something you care of. Uncleaned mould lines and thick paint are a thing.
If you just want to play, then it's fine. But turning them to an army that also looks good will take extra effort.
brake fluid, greenstuff and a drill are my friends for these "rescues"
strip paint, fix any holes and maybe even add more holes for "battle damage" and then paint.
$2000? Those are rookie numbers!
The most high effort episode ever?? Must be about money! 😂
Oh this one is going to do numbers
The Poorhammer Strikes Back moment.
My parents are currently in Sweden, so I asked them to pick up a Mk. III tactical squad kit for me. It would cost 134 AUD here. There, it costs around about 90 AUD. So yeah, handy tip: if you want cheap WH kits, go to Europe.
I found this episode compelling, as someone who has been buying classic 40k models on ebay with absolutely no intention of it turning into a full army.
Me and my poor financial decisions feel attacked
Audibly said “Oh no” upon seeing the title, looking forward to this one
What hurts me right now is that I haven't finished my first two armies, I've been looking at necrons, and now you just gave me hope for guard. I really want to build a Canadian themed Guard army...
Because using it in 40K just makes the Geneva checklist joke even better
Raffle one of the armies off, the person chooses which one out of the armies they want// Then have a competition between yourselves and the person that wins the army in an epic paint off!
Seeing this After starting 5 months ago , spending 5k on 5 armies 😂 i regret nothing !
Photo time! Hearing the audio first is like one huge tease at times 😊
I’ve watched y’all for awhile and as a guard painter, it makes me so happy that y’all covered them
lovely video, for ideas on what to do with them, it would be kinda neat to hear more about the actual process of learning to play them.
Get in, $2000 of poorness
As someone who plays guard, I'm gonna come out and say it; That list is neat. It's probably not gonna do great against Khorne and Orks, but it's still a good fun list. I'm honestly more disappointed you didn't do the meme list of 4 Baneblade variants and Lord Solar (because it's funny; 1 Baneblade, 1 Stormlord, 1 Stormsword, 1 Shadowsword, and 1 Lord Solar).
Thank you kindly for showing this off. Much love, and i cannot wait to see more episodes.
"Can you actually afford Warhammer 40K?"
To quote The Undertaker: "My answer... is no."
"When you see a price tag, you always assume 'plus tax', that's just how it works." It definitely isn't in the civilised parts of the globe, no. When I see a price tag, I assume that's the literal amount of money I have to fork over and then I'm done with it.
boy oh boy, can't wait to compare this episode's prices to the future 3d printer one
You should do a paint challenge! Maybe keep it to poorhammer crew or maybe bricky and friends?
Tell us how yall tackle painting and the entire army in 1 week? 2 weeks? A reasonable month? I'd love to hear a 2-3 hr episode with interviews with how everyone tackled it, what quality they got it to, etc. I know logistically. You all said 4 was the max for episode cast, but I see poorhammer constantly pushing their own evolope, so now that yall have the armies.... gotta paint em!
Very good episode, thanks for putting in all that work for us!
What a title 😂😅
Paying my taxes for looking (but not skipping, we don't condone time travel) ahead. Also thanks for showing us the miniswap subreddit, plan to make some use of it later to get MOAR ORKZ.
maybe do a campaign?
each player has to build and paint the part of their army that is necessary for the next fight without having to paint the full army. and with generous time limits between each fight this could make a good and fun set of videos that show how you build, paint and play your new forces.
Im gonna be honest, the WHOLE TIME I was listening i was like "this is cool, shame the only mention of my beloved guard is gonna be possibly bullying cadians again" and then you ACTUALLY HAD IT, my day is made
The fact that 500 dollars is cheap is crazy
So how many price increases till the 40k actually describes the cost of collecting 2000 points. And not in dollarydoos
This was a downright treat to watch, the whole way through
Died laughing at some of the subtle jokes thrown in (like the rogal dorn not having a butt)
I was getting really hyped for this, and then realised I in am a child living in Australia and 500 dollars plus shipping is equivalent to roughly 1000 dollars. Sigh
The return of the king 👑👑👑 ..... Of saving money.... Also berelio you used the land raider crusader in the bataslate episode no the land raider redeemer
OH THIS IS GONNA BE A BANGER
Joke's on you, I was looking BACK because I started watching baseball and came back to credits!
Seriously though, these videos are super helpful for people like me who have a limited budget, and it's really appreciated.
Honestly the CSM story is almost note for note how I built mine at a budget. Just bought bits on the cheap, 3d printed stuff, and got 2nd hand stuff. Good that you guys are spreading awareness on how you guys got the models though!
The *only* issue with the new leman russ is the lack of sponsons, and I mean... you can just glue some spare guns on somewhere or the like if you're really worried there or just say "oh it's got heavy bolters or plasma or whatever". Otherwise it's a beauty and I'm planning to get some myself at some point given I already play and love tank guard.
Ironically I asked on Reddit if someone has had experience with the combat Patrols and know which factions are close match. Ofc I got spammed with all of them all balanced equally and that I am the only one who think some match-ups do not feel fair as a starting match
Now this was a great way for me to live vicariously through you and get hyped about all the pile of potential to paint.
I also do this with one guy in our play group who hits our and he comes home with so many armies… one of these days I’m going to build a knights army by occasional purchases at the store.
With the latest points increases Sisters are actually probably incredibly doable.
I got to 1600 points just throwing some combat patrols (1 old one and 1 new one) and characters (and some paragons) in my Amazon cart and if you're actually bargain hunting you could definitely get there.
Just punched it in, and back in the Imperium magazine days, if you managed to pick up 3 copies of each Sisters issue (except only one of the Canoness), with current points you'd come in at just over 2k for just over half the budget.
Even in Australia you'd only be sitting at just over 75% budget!
Love the thumbnail similar to the other episode like this
Edit: it's even mentioned lol
So how is Elden Ring DLC?
I finally had time to finish all Rememberances and Bayle. Going to really enjoy doing randomizer runs with the DLC weapons in the pool for unique feeling runs. Berilio is still mid DLC because someone made him spend 12 days tinkering with the editing on this episode.
I loved this! As someone recently buying minis, this was great. Sitting on a bunch of Tau from like 15 years ago, kept watching as many different market places as I could looking for the old CP, so this all felt super relatable right now!
Also had to keep telling myself to buy one thing at a time and not just jump to trying to finish off a whole 2k points.
I'd love to see a video like this for AoS too if you guys ever end up doing more content for that.
One biggest factor is all the accessories you need to buy afterwards. For example… primer, paints, brushes, paints, a carry case, paints, dice, rulebooks, paints.
With a Spearhead box, I’ve easily spent more to paint them than what the box cost to buy.
Annoyingly when I decided to collect another faction / army, the paint scheme was completely different. There was few paints that both used.
Stopped buying GW a decade ago. Just an outright scam by a company who underpays their artists and denies them credit like the comic industry SIXTY years ago.
Paying the look-ahead tax
Not sure if this has been done before, or if it's a terrible idea, but a fun video idea is "What armies are the best looking/most fun to kitbash with Orks". Gives Eric a chance to really show off how fun and customizable an Ork army is.
Love this! I got into 40k this year (because Poorhammer kept playing after Solely Singleton episodes...) and I was able to build a Sisters army for less than $500. Found a great bulk deal of like 1250 points (Vahl, old Combat Patrol, Celestian Sacs, Paragon, etc.) on Miniswap for $250 and combined that with 2 of the old Combat Patrol that I got for $120 each on Amazon. Obviously not the best 2k army and I've spent too much since then, but I've been very happy with it.