Perfect! No more headache! No one ever shows how to set fixture height! Every video that i have found just shows how to set the tool height and tells you should do the same in fixture. I am so relived after figuring this out from youre video, and a post on a forum. fixture off set Z value should always be Z=0. I hope you make more videos in the future! you are really good at teaching!
@@joepie221 yeah, i could imagine that. I have a follow up question, in my program, i have 2 different tools. Do i need to: 5=set length for both tools in my current program? When i tried calling my second tool in the program, the z-height didnt match up anymore. I am quite new to cnc machining and g-code’s but i understand the basic principles. Thanks in advance:)
@@osnapmusic6730 Every tool in the program, and every in your tool changer has to be calibrated for length. YES. Make double sure that when you call a tool, your code reflects the corresponding 'H' value for that tool. If you call T1 and your code says D1 H2....you'll get strange results because all the tool numbers are not matching. The machine will know the 'D' diameter of the tool, but use the length/height 'H' of a different tool. This is mostly a problem when you cut and paste to save time manually programming. It usually never ends well.
Joe, apologies for not commenting earlier but I'm now watching this entire series (Again), taking notes and applying this to my friend's machine. This series is INVALUABLE for me as a learning tool and is getting me started in my journey of figuring this all out. A Million thanks for taking the time to do this. I might call you with some questions if you have some time. Thanks again Joe!
Hi Brad. You can call me anytime. I'll touch off on the G54 ...stuff and all the drilling parameters very soon. In the meantime, ask all the questions you need to.
Brad, I just ran a G54 - G59 test on my machine. The program responds to my preset E1 - E6 locations in my offset register. Search your machines offset register to see if you can locate the fixture offset page and look where your #1 thru #6 locations are set. Thats where the G54 .......G59 locations will go to when called up. if this is confusing, let me know.
These videos are bringing back a lot of memories. Its been a few years since I've run a FADAL. Great machine! I faintly remember a code to go back to your fixture offset. I think it was something like G0E01Y0X0. Thanks for making these videos!!
I need to experiment with the g54 offset codes. I have never used them. The 'E' offsets are very easy to work with and there are 48 available I believe. Your string calls for a rapid move to the machine E0 home location for X and Y, but I'm not familiar with the '1' after the E0
Great Job, Joe ! I am watching and taking notes the same time :) ! And it is only 6.30 in the morning ! Keep shooting your videos for us ! Great job again !
Thanks. As long as the views per series keep some type of progress pattern, I'll stick with it. If it looks like its dying, I may change direction for a while. For now. I'm sticking with the CNC, but will get back to manual stuff in the near future.
This was the first CNC machine I bought for myself. Its a scary thing to have, but the payback is awesome once you get comfortable. I wish I had a series like this when I was learning.
I noticed you have a sticky note with the "warm up" program code. But if you change the "O word" of that program to 9998. The computer will automatically save it as the true warm up. So everytime you turn the mill on and after it zeros it's self, it'll ask if you want to "start" your 9998 (warm up) program. So now there's no need to manually load the warm up program. And after its done cycling if you hit "manual" it'll automatically restore itself to what ever program you were using/working on; like (RUclips demo) in this case.
It works provided you have a new enough controller...but very nice. Thanks Brian. Even my machine tech didn't know about this little tidbit. How did you come across it?
I used your (ending program) code and worked great. I could never figure out how to get the table to move to the unload position! Now I do and thank you very much! Really Appreciate your stuff!
wow that is way simpler than arguing with a Haas controller, Like everything else in the world, Newer = unnecessarily complicated. keep up the good work Joe
dang, this is way more button pushing than the style of mill that I have... mine only has 2 buttons, on and off lol... ill probably have to watch it a few times but im learning a lot from this series, thanks Joe :)
Joe, the older machines like Fadal become more availble/obtainable to hobbiests and home grage machinists these days.I believe more people are going to subscribe to your channel, if you consider it. The last video suggests how to begin a program like old good days when CAM softwares weren't around like these days but frankly for simple face milling, bore some holes, cut a keyway or simple pocket or contour it is more convient to do it your way. Hope you don't forget to mention the LEARN MODE command that can help us to program a part by probing or even using an edge finder around it. Regards, Shem
Ultimately, I'll get there. I just want to get you guys to a base comfort zone first. The material here is endless, but I don't want to abandon my manual audience completely.
Thanks joe. Wow information over load, I'll need to write that down after I watch you video a few more times twice so far. I will down load it too into my computer video library. Thanks for sharing.
It really seems like a bunch, but when it finally clicks, you'll be surprised at how much easier it seems. Hang in. It will get much better once I start cutting parts for you guys.
Hi Joe Thank you for the info on bolt hole circle, i have another question, you did any engrave on the fadal before? if yes you make a video how do? I have a FFL class 7 and i need engrave the post sample that i make with my SOT, do you can give me any help? Thank you
Good Video Joe. Have you figured out how to use the fixture utility for 5) Find Midpoint ? All of them seem straight forward for me except that one. It seems a little clunky.
Yes, once you select that option, the screen will change and give you the opportunity to identify 2 locations. Once you have, you'll then select the 'compute' option and the screen will display the value.
Hi I have a fadal 88hs milling. I have a problem with the tool offset. When i call T1 and tried to set the offset the tool number not showing instead of tool number ? this symbol appears and when i call T2 symbol change in to 1 When i call each tool the exact tool number not showing instead the previous shows and When i call T1 In the calling screen Its says TOOL 0.3637... IN THE SPINDLES and when i Call T2 the 0 change to 1. What should i do? please help....
Hi Joe! i bought a Fadal vmc 2016L and have never used one before, i have watched their videos and i have learned a lot, i have a precision Matheus M25 that i converted to cnc, and it uses centroid software which is easy, but the machine is too small and weak for what I want to do it, but it works very well for small parts I've done some parts and it turned out really good. I would like to know if you could explain to me how I do bolt hole circle in Fadal. Thank you Wagner Damotta
The bolt circle option should be in the fixed routine sub folder in the monitor. Its conversational in format 1 and pretty easy. Hit 'F' for functions, then you'll see it.
Great video series really like it. Only one bracket required for a comment in the G-code? Thought you had omitted one on the end, until I seen the rest were the same way.. Do you ever use a CAM package to program, or do you just do everything right at the machine? Can't wait for the next installment. :o)
I have Pro Engineer Wildfire for Trajectory, volume milling and engraving. But I think its vital for any good programmer to be able to identify, correct and edit code at the entry level. Core skills. I've seen too many ace programmers that could only load pre-canned code and push buttons.
About the bracket for comment lines......The machine automatically puts just one in place when it prompts you to enter text, but never asks for the end one. You can use two without any problem.
Hey your videos are great! Is there any chance I could get a copy of that job worksheet from you for setups? I'm looking for something quick and dirty that I can play with a little that doesn't make me start from scratch. Thanks!!
I'm curious about the doors on the machine. Isn't it a safety feature and the machine isn't supposed to work without them closed and if so, how is it working with the doors open
Joe, did you initally have to write the end of program code and other codes on the function screen or is that a preset code in the machine from factory, and if so can they be modified. Sorry for the crazy questions, just starting to learn CNC
The "new tool" and "end of program" code is in the controller. yes it can be modified to suit your needs. Thats one of the ways I deliver the table to the door when the part is done.
My tech school instructor should teach it just like this. Why doesn't Fadal, just as an example, have a virtual simulator of the MCU? It would make learning so much easier. I'd even consider moving to Texas to learn from you.
I am not sure. I have pumped 15000 lines of code in via USB in a matter of minutes and the machine didn't even birp. I also have about 1000 programs in the controller, so its pretty robust.
Why don't you set your tool height offset when you install the tool and then use the fixture height offset? The paper documentation approach looks like a lot of extra work and an invitation for disaster.
I go through so many jobs on this machine, the offsets are always changing. The paper setup sheet is a blessing for my shop. I have actually never set a Z height in a fixture offset.
Hey Joe, I'm a manual guy. But I enjoy watching (learning) the cnc side of machining. Thanks for taking the time to show us.
Stick with the series. It will get you thinking.
Perfect! No more headache! No one ever shows how to set fixture height! Every video that i have found just shows how to set the tool height and tells you should do the same in fixture. I am so relived after figuring this out from youre video, and a post on a forum. fixture off set Z value should always be Z=0.
I hope you make more videos in the future! you are really good at teaching!
I have never had a reason to change the Z height in a fixture offset. Its probably useful for identical features on parts of different heights.
@@joepie221 yeah, i could imagine that.
I have a follow up question, in my program, i have 2 different tools. Do i need to: 5=set length for both tools in my current program?
When i tried calling my second tool in the program, the z-height didnt match up anymore.
I am quite new to cnc machining and g-code’s but i understand the basic principles.
Thanks in advance:)
@@osnapmusic6730 Every tool in the program, and every in your tool changer has to be calibrated for length. YES. Make double sure that when you call a tool, your code reflects the corresponding 'H' value for that tool. If you call T1 and your code says D1 H2....you'll get strange results because all the tool numbers are not matching. The machine will know the 'D' diameter of the tool, but use the length/height 'H' of a different tool. This is mostly a problem when you cut and paste to save time manually programming. It usually never ends well.
Joe, apologies for not commenting earlier but I'm now watching this entire series (Again), taking notes and applying this to my friend's machine. This series is INVALUABLE for me as a learning tool and is getting me started in my journey of figuring this all out. A Million thanks for taking the time to do this. I might call you with some questions if you have some time. Thanks again Joe!
Hi Brad. You can call me anytime. I'll touch off on the G54 ...stuff and all the drilling parameters very soon. In the meantime, ask all the questions you need to.
Fantastic. Hoping to see you at the bash - as we ALL are!
Brad, I just ran a G54 - G59 test on my machine. The program responds to my preset E1 - E6 locations in my offset register. Search your machines offset register to see if you can locate the fixture offset page and look where your #1 thru #6 locations are set. Thats where the G54 .......G59 locations will go to when called up. if this is confusing, let me know.
These videos are bringing back a lot of memories. Its been a few years
since I've run a FADAL. Great machine! I faintly remember a code to go
back to your fixture offset. I think it was something like G0E01Y0X0.
Thanks for making these videos!!
I need to experiment with the g54 offset codes. I have never used them. The 'E' offsets are very easy to work with and there are 48 available I believe. Your string calls for a rapid move to the machine E0 home location for X and Y, but I'm not familiar with the '1' after the E0
Great Job, Joe ! I am watching and taking notes the same time :) ! And it is only 6.30 in the morning ! Keep shooting your videos for us ! Great job again !
Thanks. As long as the views per series keep some type of progress pattern, I'll stick with it. If it looks like its dying, I may change direction for a while. For now. I'm sticking with the CNC, but will get back to manual stuff in the near future.
Stoik Gramadanski
Great series , I'm considering buying a CNC machine.This is helping move toward a yes, thanks again for your knowledge.
This was the first CNC machine I bought for myself. Its a scary thing to have, but the payback is awesome once you get comfortable. I wish I had a series like this when I was learning.
I noticed you have a sticky note with the "warm up" program code. But if you change the "O word" of that program to 9998. The computer will automatically save it as the true warm up. So everytime you turn the mill on and after it zeros it's self, it'll ask if you want to "start" your 9998 (warm up) program. So now there's no need to manually load the warm up program.
And after its done cycling if you hit "manual" it'll automatically restore itself to what ever program you were using/working on; like (RUclips demo) in this case.
Interesting. I'll have to research that.
It works provided you have a new enough controller...but very nice. Thanks Brian. Even my machine tech didn't know about this little tidbit. How did you come across it?
I used your (ending program) code and worked great. I could never figure out how to get the table to move to the unload position! Now I do and thank you very much! Really Appreciate your stuff!
Glad it helped. I use that on all my programs.
wow that is way simpler than arguing with a Haas controller, Like everything else in the world, Newer = unnecessarily complicated. keep up the good work Joe
I should have waited for this episode before I asked about tool inventory :)
Thanks for sharing
Hey Neil. It was a good question. Let me know if I skip something you were hoping to see.
dang, this is way more button pushing than the style of mill that I have... mine only has 2 buttons, on and off lol... ill probably have to watch it a few times but im learning a lot from this series, thanks Joe :)
I wish you could do this with 2 buttons. That would be awesome.
awesome educational video series Joe, thanks alot.
Glad to do it.
Joe, the older machines like Fadal become more availble/obtainable to hobbiests and home grage machinists these days.I believe more people are going to subscribe to your channel, if you consider it. The last video suggests how to begin a program like old good days when CAM softwares weren't around like these days but frankly for simple face milling, bore some holes, cut a keyway or simple pocket or contour it is more convient to do it your way. Hope you don't forget to mention the LEARN MODE command that can help us to program a part by probing or even using an edge finder around it.
Regards, Shem
Ultimately, I'll get there. I just want to get you guys to a base comfort zone first. The material here is endless, but I don't want to abandon my manual audience completely.
Joe Pieczynski Sure, what ever you teach is valuable to me/us. Thanks
Great stuff Joe , love learning new stuff,keep it up man..
Hi Joe, thanks for your videos! I must say they have been very helpful! Keep up the good work!
Dan
Thanks joe. Wow information over load, I'll need to write that down after I watch you video a few more times twice so far. I will down load it too into my computer video library. Thanks for sharing.
It really seems like a bunch, but when it finally clicks, you'll be surprised at how much easier it seems. Hang in. It will get much better once I start cutting parts for you guys.
Hi Joe
Thank you for the info on bolt hole circle, i have another question, you did any engrave on the fadal before? if yes you make a video how do?
I have a FFL class 7 and i need engrave the post sample that i make with my SOT, do you can give me any help?
Thank you
Great step by step explanation. Thanks!
Part 4 is in edit right now. Probably post on Sunday. G0, G1, G2,and G3 The machine finally wakes up! Thanks for watching.
Good Video Joe. Have you figured out how to use the fixture utility for 5) Find Midpoint ? All of them seem straight forward for me except that one. It seems a little clunky.
Yes, once you select that option, the screen will change and give you the opportunity to identify 2 locations. Once you have, you'll then select the 'compute' option and the screen will display the value.
Hi
I have a fadal 88hs milling. I have a problem with the tool offset.
When i call T1 and tried to set the offset the tool number not showing instead of tool number ? this symbol appears and when i call T2 symbol change in to 1
When i call each tool the exact tool number not showing instead the previous shows and
When i call T1
In the calling screen
Its says TOOL 0.3637... IN THE SPINDLES and when i Call T2 the 0 change to 1.
What should i do?
please help....
Hi Joe! i bought a Fadal vmc 2016L and have never used one before, i have watched their videos and i have learned a lot, i have a precision Matheus M25 that i converted to cnc, and it uses centroid software which is easy, but the machine is too small and weak for what I want to do it, but it works very well for small parts I've done some parts and it turned out really good. I would like to know if you could explain to me how I do bolt hole circle in Fadal. Thank you
Wagner Damotta
The bolt circle option should be in the fixed routine sub folder in the monitor. Its conversational in format 1 and pretty easy. Hit 'F' for functions, then you'll see it.
@@joepie221 thank you
I going to try and i let you know
Thanks again
Wagner Damotta
Great video series really like it.
Only one bracket required for a comment in the G-code?
Thought you had omitted one on the end, until I seen the rest were the same way..
Do you ever use a CAM package to program, or do you just do everything right at the machine? Can't wait for the next installment. :o)
I have Pro Engineer Wildfire for Trajectory, volume milling and engraving. But I think its vital for any good programmer to be able to identify, correct and edit code at the entry level. Core skills. I've seen too many ace programmers that could only load pre-canned code and push buttons.
About the bracket for comment lines......The machine automatically puts just one in place when it prompts you to enter text, but never asks for the end one. You can use two without any problem.
very very good. thanks a lot for sharing
Hey your videos are great! Is there any chance I could get a copy of that job worksheet from you for setups? I'm looking for something quick and dirty that I can play with a little that doesn't make me start from scratch. Thanks!!
Shoot me an e-mail from my website contact page and I'll PDF one and send it over.
Where can I access your email so I get get back to you? Thanks! -Logan
www.advancedinnovationsllc.com/contact
I'm curious about the doors on the machine. Isn't it a safety feature and the machine isn't supposed to work without them closed and if so, how is it working with the doors open
I believe you are correct. Mine works fine with the doors open. I like it that way.
Joe, did you initally have to write the end of program code and other codes on the function screen or is that a preset code in the machine from factory, and if so can they be modified. Sorry for the crazy questions, just starting to learn CNC
The "new tool" and "end of program" code is in the controller. yes it can be modified to suit your needs. Thats one of the ways I deliver the table to the door when the part is done.
My tech school instructor should teach it just like this. Why doesn't Fadal, just as an example, have a virtual simulator of the MCU? It would make learning so much easier. I'd even consider moving to Texas to learn from you.
I have a list of guys coming down for a seminar. After the covid lifts, maybe it can happen.
How many line of code can you controller process?
I am not sure. I have pumped 15000 lines of code in via USB in a matter of minutes and the machine didn't even birp. I also have about 1000 programs in the controller, so its pretty robust.
That's pretty awesome for an older controller. I was not familiar with this VMC. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks nice video
Why don't you set your tool height offset when you install the tool and then use the fixture height offset? The paper documentation approach looks like a lot of extra work and an invitation for disaster.
I go through so many jobs on this machine, the offsets are always changing. The paper setup sheet is a blessing for my shop. I have actually never set a Z height in a fixture offset.
Lol I think I’ve used FANUC too long, everything else looks too complicated, yet the Okuma/Hurco guys all say FANUC is too complicated
Could you have manually entered G00G90E10X0.Y0. (MDI)
To bring back the machine from home to E10??