Sire Z3: A Bass We Waited Too Long For!
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
- Sometimes, the best things take their time to arrive. The Sire Z3 proves that a little patience can lead to greatness.
The signal chain is plugged direct from an Ampeg RB112 onto a Universal Audio Volt 276 in Logic Pro X. Using no plug-ins and a teeny bit of compression from the Volt 276 in play-throughs.
Strings used in this demonstration:
JIM DUNLOP Dual Dynamic Hybrid Nickel Bass Strings 45-105
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Padded Strap from Amazon
Neotech Mega Strap-Regular
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So It was brought to my attention that I messed up on my measurements of the string spacing. The correct spacing is 19mm. Thank you and apologies!
For the people asking about the shape of the lower horn, this bass model was presented in winter namm 24, all the prototypes had a rounder lower horns (which looked bad IMO) and the 4 string versions came with 3+1 headstocks. From the prototypes to the production versions they changed the bottom horn on both 4s and 5s Z3s and Z7s, and the 4 strings now come with a 4 in line headstock because the 3+1 design is a trademark from EBMM.
You will see a lot of the pictures on the internet with the rounder lower horn because those pictures are the promo material sire marketed when the basses were announced and most retailers that only advertise brand supplied promo material havent updated their web pages. All retailers that use their own pictures of the material have updated catalogs.
@@CheapMessiah Thank you for this detailed rundown 🙌🏽
@@CheapMessiah thanks for that! Good to know because that round lower horn was actually a deal-breaker for me... Too stubby looking. I knew they were late coming out because of the headstock issue that makes more sense with the bodies as well! ✌️😎
@@bassclefconnoisseur I liked the Z3 idea but hated the lower horn so much I just disregarded this bass.
I was gladly surprised as people started uploading videos 2 weeks ago and the lower horn was revised, Im buying a Z3 in black sparkle now.
I was wondering if they had tweaked the design of the lower horn. I wasn't digging the early prototypes and press photos, but in the more recent demos like this one and Anderton's, the bass looks way better. I'm really glad they fixed it!
We are in the era of budget basses and good amps
@@ugu80 😤💪💯
NICCCEEEE! Really hoping to grab one soon!
@@patrickhunter Get it! 🤙🏾
Review the HS version!
Are you getting the one with the jazz pick up in the neck and the mid sweepable preamp?
Sonojono to the rescue! Now I know everything I need to know. And BEST of all, Sono is truly a trusted source!
@@davejones7475 I appreciate that, thank you 🙌🏽
Brilliant. Sounds great! I love the funky colours of them too. Great video.
Glad you like it!
This damn $499 guitar sounds better than my $2500 EBMM lmao. Good shit Sire!
Sire is killing it with the prices!
Great video btw. Thanks so much for the quality review. I actually sold my American Jazz because I played my Sire 1st gen v7 more. If this z3 feels better than my Stingray, I can see the same happening lol.
Incredible overview! Think this convinced me to want to check out the 3 over the 7!
Z3 definitely piqued my interest more than the 7 due to it's simplicity and straight forwardness. We definitely need to see more Z3 coverage on here!
@@sonojon0 I wish they'd do them with ebony boards too
@@phipschi4255Hard yes 😢
I've got a Sire P7 and pre-ordered the Z3. Also already had a church gig with the Z3 just last Sunday on a PA. Sounds really nice 😁.
It seems the Z7 has the same pre-amp installed as the P7 (same name according to Sire's webpage). To be honest, I kind of dislike the sound of the P7 pre-amp, so I've played the P7 99,5% of the time in passive mode.
This whole "experience" made me buy the Z3 over the Z7. Really, the Z3's pre-amp gives you all the power you need to get a really good sound out of the instrument. I even prefer it to the P7's sound with high quality strings and amp simulation.
These 4 nobs are enough. Especially this bass boost... Delicious 😄
Only gripe I have for now is that the P7 total build quality seems a few notches above the Z3's. Probably the P7 and the Z7 are quite similar here. But as mentioned, Z7's pre-amp was a deal breaker for me, Z3's pre-amp and price point made me say "shut up and take my money".
Killer demo, now I want one!
@@chrisAclaes Honestly worth the purchase!
I ordered one and agree with everything, so much bass for the money it's insane. Passive mode is surprisingly good, but boost the treble, add a smidge of bass and wow what a beastly sound!
My only complaint is the lower horn isn't the most comfortable on my leg when seated but that might be just how I sit.
Great video, Z7 next??👌
@@Buckers2202 That’s awesome! The Z7 is next in line!
Sonojono - Great review, great playing and a comprehensive presentation. It's good to have someone who can really "play" bass. I mean, seriously . . .
@@foxbat2549 Thank you! I appreciate the feedback 🥹🥰
Thank you Sono 😍
@@frankkiethebassplayer You’re the best! 🤙🏾
They nailed this. Sounds far better (and more authentically MM) than any of the SBMM basses. Shame they didn't use the 3+1 headstock though.
Other thoughts? A plain gloss black (no sparkles) or natural finish would be great. And a spokewheel truss road adjustment. And, maybe bridge mutes, a la classic MM?
All the cosmetic suggestions illustrate that the product is pretty much A-okay as is.
I have the Black Sparkle 4 string and it is the Truth!
I had a beautiful Ray34 CA. I bought the Z3 to test it because i know Sire makes wonderful basses for the price. I receivedthe bass, the next day my Sterling Ray34CA was for sale. Everything is better on the Sire.
@@acidjazzsoulfunkrock I agree! The rolled edges make the Z3 so much better. As a former Sterling Ray owner, I never kept them for long, but the Z3 is a keeper. I doubt these will show up much on the used market compared to Sterling
Nice!! I was planning to get the white one but rose gold finish looks stellar! Thanks for the review
No problem!! Glad you enjoyed it. I’d like the white one too if they ever stock them from Sweetwater
Looks amazing ❤
Thank you 😋
Love the Z series. How would you compare it to a Sterling Stingray? Finally a nice battery box! :D
@@AllAboutBasses I originally was looking into that but 9v vs 18v preamp from the Z3 felt like an unfair match. The Z series are a league of their own and can keep up with the Sterling (and more) no problem.
Awesome dude!
@@qasimansari7540 You’re welcome 🤙🏾
On mine there wasn’t a noticeable gain difference between active and passive, which is great when your battery dies mid-gig. I like it that Sire has these trim pots to adjust the active gain to match the passive gain.
@@basstelkeller I agree! A feature that’s worth tinkering to players taste!
Venom shirt and rockin' a fancy colored bass? Love it! 🩷
@@progpaule5123 Hell yeah 😅🤘🏽🎸🖤
Nice my only concern is those tuners I'd like to see someone change them out before I commit to it otherwise I'm definitely interested in taking one for a test drive
How well can it handle distortion tho😭🥵
Glad they revised the lower horn. Bass looks much less hideous now. Hopefully Sire will make a fretless version, since EBMM has all but refused to have fretless Stingrays available for years now. The only two routes are BFR or very recently the custom design.
@@57precision they do have a Fretless version of the Z3 and Z7 only on Andertons website. Unfortunately those are back ordered to hell 😩😩
Much as I like the look of this Stingray emulation (and the sound), my personal preference if I were to look for one would be the equal of the original Stingray headstock dating back to the birthday of the model (lower G tuner and no string retainers).
@@Shred_The_Weapon I honestly wish they kept with the original headstock they had during the prototype but it’s a Music Man copyright 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for this early review. @okayestbassist will be happy about the active/passive option.
@@maikfohnan1415 💯💯💯
Killer!
amazing review!
but I would really appreciated knowing his weight, a typical achilles hell of Sire basses...
He said 9 pounds
Good and fair review! I'd had mine on order from Anderton's weeks ago, the due date kept slipping and slipping ultimately to the same date everyone else had been saying on their sites.......hmmmm???
First impressions, very heavy, lower cut-a-away...WTF....far too small, sitting down it falls off your thigh! The bass knob is almost unusable (like all their basses) as it is so powerful, I'm playing it through two Ampeg rigs - one rig a V4B and 212AV and V7 into a 410HE and a slight bass boost on the bass almost blows the cabs up! and I'm only talking 10-11 o'clock on the master volume....why?? Tuners are shite.
Plus points great neck, looks good, nice bridge, paint finish good, love the tinted neck.
No information on what the centre frequencies of the tone knobs are set to, but that Bass frequency?
I just returned two of them in beautiful blue. They were pretty heavy: the lighter one slightly under 10 lbs, the other almost 10.6 lbs. Also on both the pickups weren’t properly centered. On the lighter one it was especially bad with the G-String. It almost completely missed the pole pieces and was significantly quieter than the other strings. It’s a pity, I otherwise liked the basses and they look amazing.
@@basstelkeller Bummer! Sounds like you got the rotten batch 😩
This preamp seems a lot more usable than the other preamp...
Nice passive option 🤘
Edit: Why does the 5-string lower horn look different than the 4 string?!?! It looks better on the 4 imo🤔
How long did it take to receive it? I’ve been waiting for sweetwater to have them available, I don’t want to wait months to get it
About a week. Most finishes were available to purchase on the spot from Sweetwater. I believe Rose Gold and Black were the only colors in stock
Can you please review the Marcus Miller U7-4 ? This review was great BTW!
@@albertmarkethinkpr1325 Thank you! I will try my best to check out the U7-4
@@sonojon0 I'll be expecting some Venom tones out of it ;) Cronos arghhhh
Is this bass can be set on Active and Passive bass or only active bass? Because I just only know this bass is active.
And how about the push pull knobs?
@@dhanisagustyan Yes, it can go both ways
@@sonojon0 how to switch between passive and active modes? There is no toggle switch. Is it just use push and pull the knobs?
@@sonojon0can you control the tone in passive mode?
@@dhanisagustyanPush/Pull on the bass knob is what controls the active passive mode
@@cramit1No tone control when in passive mode unlike the Z7
Thiking of selling my Fender to get this for Christmas 😅
@@paoloalcantara2465 You won’t regret it 😅
Can you remove the pick guard and just leave the single color body?
Yeah pictures online with the guard removed have looked pretty solid
Nice bass! Sire is great bang for buck. I’m not very Impressed with the passive low-end. Sounds very thin.
@@Songtitles4u Understandable. Passive mode would need some help with EQ in the mix
Nobody´s gonna mention that they reshaped the lower horn? CLEVER move SIRE.
@@luisborralho4298 Crazy too cause I hardly noticed it 😅
@@sonojon0 Glad they did. That thing looked like an underdeveloped toe before.
Is this better than a Sterling for the price and sound?
It's in the Ray 24 price range with Ray 34 features and it's about 9 - 9.5 lbs and it has a active/passive switch which those don't have and in my case the pickup Is always the first thing to get changed anyway
@@MarcG7424 is it better than the z7?
@@revtox6001 The Z7 Cost around 700 bucks and compared to the Ray 34 ( closest in price ) I'd say yes Bully the Kid just unboxed a Z7 on his channel and first impressions out the box no set up liked it compared to his Ray 35 ( 5 string Ray 34 ) check his unboxing review
I'd say it's leagues better in the electronics department as mentioned in the comments. You'll definitely get more mileage on a Z3 than a Sterling Ray24 and Ray34. Also Sterling 9v preamp vs Sire Z3 18v preamp for half the cost of a Sterling is a screaming good deal ⚡
@@revtox6001 Z7 is about 700 bucks I watched a unboxing by Bully the Kid he compared it to his Ray 35 he seemed to like it
love it, but too heavy
What strap are you using please? Looks interesting
I’ve used both straps but the one I used for demo was a generic strap from Guitar Center www.guitarcenter.com/Perris/Jacquard-Guitar-Strap-Pink-and-Blue-Flower-2-in-1500000299507.gc and the padded strap from Amazon a.co/d/gS7e8St
Got one, love it❤. Kind of embarrassing though, I didn’t know about the passive pull switch so thanks for that🫢
@@mdp303 So did a lot of people if that makes you less embarrassed 😅 but congrats on your Z3! I’m loving mines so much! I kinda want another one in White 👀
What? The passive tone should not be slapped on? Is this why Music Man/Sterling doesn't have this mode?
He said slept on
Should not be slept on
This was a joke of course 😁
@@VeitLehmann You jokester 😅
Very nice. Is that the new squier active jazz I see?
@@deangomes6280 Yea it is. That’ll be the next bass to review for the channel 😏
@@sonojon0 Has it been released yet? I'm looking forward to your review as i've got my sights set of picking one up when they are released!
@@tekglitch6596 Yes, they're officially available to purchase directly from the Fender website. I think you can still get a 10% discount upon checkout using "welcome10"
How would you compare with stingray and sterling?
Oh fuck, how am I supposed to control the GAS this way
@@LMaia14 My wallet was feeling it these past few weeks 😩
it may sound better than a Ball's family reserve but it's too ugly for me to buy it
My only complaint is the bottom horn makes it look a little bit off. wish it was longer.
Sire had this opportunity to scrap that headstock for something better but instead they insisted on it. I know of at least two people (myself and a buddy of mine) who won't buy a Sire because of the hideous headstock alone.
They were gonna do the 3x1 headstock and it looked pretty alright but musicman threatened to sue. Apparently musicman owns the 3x1 tuner design. This caused the delay for the z bass, they even had playable basses with those headstocks during namm.
@@bz6398 Thank you. My gripe isn't against the configuration per se, it's mostly against the shape, which looks like a foot run over by a truck. But yeah, a 3 +1 configuration on a MM clone is definitely nice to have.
And as usual, us lefties get screwed.
They also offer lefty models from Andertons but they’re backordered 💀
I’m a lefty and I play a right handed bass. Keanu Reeves does the same thing.
We? You mean you.
Nah, we a family when it comes to this channel 😅