@@kingdavidson7430 any animal can have an adverse reaction to different feeds, just like people. With this being said, it’s pretty rare. An overwhelming majority of animal feed contains soy since it is very high in protein and cheap. Soybeans should not be fed as a sole form of feed as they are way too high in protein. They are also best digested if cooked first to remove the large amount of oil in them.
Good morning,,I live in East TN, called called hunter nutrition, for roasted rolled soybeans, it was 50dollors shipping per bag I've called about a dozen places no 1 has it the do have soybean meal will this work ,Thanks for video VERY helpful.
Hello! You bet. Soybean meal will work just fine for you. It’s 40% protein and other than the finer texture, it will be the same as the rolled roasted.
Hello, Brian. You will have to watch the label on what you’re buying. There are usually a couple different kinds. The label will usually say “not for sheep” or will list the animals you can feed and sheep won’t be on there. As an example, TSC used to carry a nice 12% sweet feed that had no copper. They got rid of it, and now their feed has copper. The no-copper option they have now is more expensive. 🫤 You are correct that usually the “all stock” feed will be copper free. But…. Always check the label. 👍🏻
Cool, but soybeans are one of the most genetically modified foodstuffs behind corn. Why not just give them grass? It works for us. I appreciate your content. Bless yall
Thank you for watching our videos and thanks for the comment. Your statement is correct. About 90% of the soybeans in the US have been genetically modified. If this is something you wish to avoid, we support your decision.
I'm so sad you guys do not ship to my address in Puerto Rico. I'm desperate for good feed and there is no such thing here. Only alfalfa pellets, not even mineral blocks. 😭
Send me an email at timothy.ventrello@linessafarms.com We can probably ship some stuff to you, it will just cost you a few dollars more to help us cover the shipping costs. We just sent a test package of mineral to a farm in PR a few weeks ago and it wasn’t too bad. Thanks!
Good morning Tim,I wrote down your formula, can I replace 1 scoop of soybean meal instead of the roasted rolled soybeans, can't get roasted soybeans in East tenn,Thanks
The generic sweet feed we purchase for our videos is a 12% mix from the "big box" stores such as tractor supply or rural king. This will be a primarily corn based ration with some soy to bring the protein level up to 12% as corn only has a 7% protein level. This is sold as "all stock sweet feed" and is pelletized using molasses as the binding agent plus some vitamins. We generally do not use generic sweet feed mix and purchase it for use in the videos. Since many people only have access to the generic 12% sweet feed, we try to make videos showing what most people have access to. 12% is the "standard" all flock feed you will find in most stores throughout the nation.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks, Tim. I will look at your website linessafarms.com/ and your other videos for your feed mixing formulas. I am now in search of a cement mixer. ;-)
Does this formulation with roasted soya represent the concentrate component of feed? How much of this is to be given to a sheep daily or how often.? Can you do a video on the feeding schedule for kids. Flushing, early pregnancy and late pregnancy?
Soybean meal is far too high in protein to make up the majority of any feed products. Most feed products ready to eat in the USA use corn as the base component.
Hello Cee. We do feed our bucks and does the same grain mixture. Just make sure you are keeping an eye on your calcium and phosphorus ratio to avoid any urinary calculi with the males.
Hello! Soybean hulls do not have the same nutritional value of soybeans. Protein percentages are relatively low at between 9-11% but it has lots of great fiber and helps maintain a healthy rumen. We like to add soybean hull pellets to our feed.
Hello Lora and thank you for the question. Pneumonia is a worrisome issue that can affect lambs and goat kids. While most will bounce back with time and care, some can develop permanent lung damage and have long term issues which can hurt growth and overall health. If you experience a lot of pneumonia issues on your farm, there are pneumonia vaccinations which can be administered to your babies which will significantly help to prevent illness. Now, on to your question.... Anytime we have a sick animal, we feel vitamin B injections can help significantly to give the animal a boost. Antibiotics can have negative consequences on gut bacteria as well. Antibiotics are indiscriminate killers of bacteria for all intents and purposes. There are some deep weed topics such as bacteria structure which categorizes theme as gram negative, gram positive, etc... My long winded point it that most broad spectrum antibiotics such as LA200, penicillin base, Nuflor, etc... all have the potential to kill helpful gut bacteria as well as the bacteria we are targeting with treatment. This is why one of the side effects so often associated with antibiotic use is diarrhea/scours. Any time you are providing livestock with antibiotics, you need to attempt to replace and preserve healthy gut bacteria as soon as possible. The best way to do this is to provide lots of clean water and good quality hay. Since we know gut bacteria aid in the production of vitamin B, it is helpful to offset a potential reduction in vitamin B with an injection or two. Anti inflammatory medications such as dexamethasone can be helpful to control the inflammatory response often associated with lung infections. Banamine can also help with pain and fever reduction. Generally speaking, sick animals on our farm receive antibiotics (when warranted), dexamethasone, banamine, vitamin B, and good quality feed. Hopefully this was helpful to you! Thanks, Tim
Hello and thank you for watching our videos and for your comment. Phytoestrogens such as isoflavones found in soybeans and other legumes such as certain types of clover have been linked to reproductive issues in female livestock. While the amount of soy used in our feed mix shown should not affect your livestock fertility, we do understand your concern. Soy bean meal is the main ingredient used in most feeds and the higher the protein%, generally the higher the amount of soybeans. Soybean meal itself is about 40% protein. While the soybean amount used in our feed (or others with 20% protein or below) should have no negative affects on your ewe or doe fertility, if you are concerned about your personal intake of phytoestrogens, we would consider more research to see how much the added soybeans would put you at risk. We personally do not use raw soybeans in our mixes for various reasons but many other livestock producers such as cattle producers do.
When we use the term “raw soybeans” we are referring to uncooked. We do not advise uncooked soybeans for any producer. We feel they are too high in phytoestrogens/isoflavones and may (although not proven at the levels we use them) interfere with reproduction in our female stock. Also, raw soybeans have been shown to inhibit protein synthesis in juvenile lambs and goat kids. For this reason we would recommend roasted rolled soybeans or soybean meal.
When your feeding your mixed feed is that percentage based on a certain amount you’re feeding? Say you feed a goat 1 pound a day and your feed is 12 percent can you feed that pound in two feedings and maintain the 12 percent or does it double?
Hi, Curt! Thanks for watching our videos. This is a great question and it can be confusing. The protein percentage of the feed is constant. So, in the case of 12% protein feed, regardless if you eat a pound or 5 pounds, it will never be more or less than 12%. This number simply tells you what percentage of the feed is protein. So…. What does this mean for you? Well, it means the higher the protein feed, the less your animal has to eat to enjoy the benefits. A sheep and goat can generally tolerate up to about 20% protein feed. Anything over this cannot be properly digested and is hard on the kidneys/isn’t properly used. Would I rather have you feed your animals 2 pounds of 6% protein or 1 pound of 12% protein…. I would go with the 12%. The TOTAL protein intake would be the same for each but it would be a lot easier on the animal to just have the 12%.
We raise lots of different breeds. We have a lot of traditional polled Dorset (old body type) along with some Rambouillet, Southdown, Katahdin, Hampshires, Columbia, and Isle de France.
This is a really complicated question. The short answer is the soy will more than likely have a possible effect on the hormone levels of the animal but not have an effect on the human consuming the animal. Multiple studies need to be looked at and of course, you have to look at the motivations behind the people writing the study and it’s reliability. Soy and soy products are high in phytoestrogens. This is almost impossible to regulate because the levels of these are determined by time of harvest, temperatures, etc… no 2 harvests are the same. Researchers using rats for studies struggle with this because it is almost impossible to control the hormone levels of rats because the feed always has different levels of these plant estrogens (assuming the food has soy). Almost all commercial animal feed contains soy. It is the safest and cheapest natural protein source we can find that is not meat based. Likewise, this is the reason why so many vegetarians and vegans choose soy and legumes (both very high in phytoestrogens) in their diets. It’s hard to get the protein you need to survive without meat or soy. So, the big question is, does increased estrogen in meat equate to a notable amount of estrogen getting passed on to the consumer. The short answer is no. We have seen many studies where this question comes up because of the artificial hormones fed to cattle. Lots of studies look into how much of this get passed on to the consumer. In the end, while estrogen levels are slightly higher in beef fed artificial hormones, the amount is so slight when compared to food like soy, tofu, or beans, it’s basically a non issue. I have included an article for you to see regarding this. I suspect there would be more difference in estrogens when comparing male and female animals than animals fed soy. The other consideration to be made is the way animals metabolize these feeds as compared to people. Generally stated, sheep and goats do not get nearly as profound of an estrogenic effect from these feeds as compared to humans. Although, it still is a concern. Some legumes such as certain species of white clover have significantly high amounts of phytoestrogens and these can have some effect on breeding. Studies are cloudy on this topic though. Hopefully this helps. In the end, I would say you should not be concerned about your estrogen intake when feeding your animals feed containing some soy.
@@LinessaFarms Thank you so much! I wasn't aware of the levels in certain white clover. That's interesting. We have some in our pastures. Truly I wasn't expecting a reply so it's greatly appreciated! I'll definitely check out the link.
@@Oldfarmlady it’s a valid question. I worry about kids especially getting too much soy. So far as the white clover is concerned, don’t loose too much sleep over it. We have it in our fields as well and we have not experienced any fertility issues. If there is an effect, it’s so small we can’t quantify it.
That’s understandable. We offer a wide range of free choice minerals for sheep, goats, and rams/bucks for people running grass fed operations if you ever need anything. Thanks for watching our videos and leaving a comment. Foundationfeed.com
Thanks for showing us how to figure out the protein amount by explaining the math computation.
Thank for all your great info in your videos! Eager to apply what I have learned!
Very good 👍🏻 thank you for your reply. We appreciate it very much.
Thanks for your changing and wonderful healthy lifestyle! 😊
Thank you for your kind words and for watching our videos!
@@LinessaFarms Hey Tim do animals have any adverse reactions to soybean.
@@kingdavidson7430 any animal can have an adverse reaction to different feeds, just like people. With this being said, it’s pretty rare. An overwhelming majority of animal feed contains soy since it is very high in protein and cheap. Soybeans should not be fed as a sole form of feed as they are way too high in protein. They are also best digested if cooked first to remove the large amount of oil in them.
@@LinessaFarms Ok thanks. I heard it raises estrogen levels in humans
Good morning,,I live in East TN, called called hunter nutrition, for roasted rolled soybeans, it was 50dollors shipping per bag I've called about a dozen places no 1 has it the do have soybean meal will this work ,Thanks for video VERY helpful.
Hello! You bet. Soybean meal will work just fine for you. It’s 40% protein and other than the finer texture, it will be the same as the rolled roasted.
Correct me if I’m wrong 12 percent sweet feed has copper in it from the big box stores. I think all stock sweet feed doesn’t have copper.
Hello, Brian. You will have to watch the label on what you’re buying. There are usually a couple different kinds. The label will usually say “not for sheep” or will list the animals you can feed and sheep won’t be on there. As an example, TSC used to carry a nice 12% sweet feed that had no copper. They got rid of it, and now their feed has copper. The no-copper option they have now is more expensive. 🫤
You are correct that usually the “all stock” feed will be copper free. But…. Always check the label. 👍🏻
Cool, but soybeans are one of the most genetically modified foodstuffs behind corn. Why not just give them grass? It works for us.
I appreciate your content. Bless yall
Thank you for watching our videos and thanks for the comment. Your statement is correct. About 90% of the soybeans in the US have been genetically modified. If this is something you wish to avoid, we support your decision.
If I do a mix of 36% and 12% do still need to apply the crushed limestone.
If your calcium is not at least 2x the amount of phosphorus in the feed, you will need to add something to boost the overall calcium level.
I don’t know if you have said how much limestone your scoop is or what kind you get? Barn lime???
It is barn lime. You can add one pound per 100 pounds of feed to increase the calcium percentage of your feed by about 1%.
I'm so sad you guys do not ship to my address in Puerto Rico. I'm desperate for good feed and there is no such thing here. Only alfalfa pellets, not even mineral blocks.
😭
Send me an email at timothy.ventrello@linessafarms.com
We can probably ship some stuff to you, it will just cost you a few dollars more to help us cover the shipping costs. We just sent a test package of mineral to a farm in PR a few weeks ago and it wasn’t too bad.
Thanks!
Good morning Tim,I wrote down your formula, can I replace 1 scoop of soybean meal instead of the roasted rolled soybeans, can't get roasted soybeans in East tenn,Thanks
Yes. That’s fine.
My mill sell soybean meal would that be okay
Yep! Sure is. Soybean meal will have the same nutritional value, just in a different texture.
What is your "sweet feed". It is just like a sweet cob but in a pellet form? Ingredients?
The generic sweet feed we purchase for our videos is a 12% mix from the "big box" stores such as tractor supply or rural king. This will be a primarily corn based ration with some soy to bring the protein level up to 12% as corn only has a 7% protein level. This is sold as "all stock sweet feed" and is pelletized using molasses as the binding agent plus some vitamins. We generally do not use generic sweet feed mix and purchase it for use in the videos. Since many people only have access to the generic 12% sweet feed, we try to make videos showing what most people have access to. 12% is the "standard" all flock feed you will find in most stores throughout the nation.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks, Tim. I will look at your website linessafarms.com/ and your other videos for your feed mixing formulas. I am now in search of a cement mixer. ;-)
Sir, I guess you need to change the whiteboard with a bigger one 👍
I will see what I can do! Thanks for watching the videos!
Does this formulation with roasted soya represent the concentrate component of feed?
How much of this is to be given to a sheep daily or how often.?
Can you do a video on the feeding schedule for kids. Flushing, early pregnancy and late pregnancy?
Soybean meal is far too high in protein to make up the majority of any feed products. Most feed products ready to eat in the USA use corn as the base component.
Complete Guide to Successfully Feeding Sheep and Goats Year Round: The 4 Feeding Cycles ruclips.net/video/ngjcQoDbpW0/видео.html
Do you feed your bucks the same feed?
Hello Cee. We do feed our bucks and does the same grain mixture. Just make sure you are keeping an eye on your calcium and phosphorus ratio to avoid any urinary calculi with the males.
As always great helpful info thank you 😊
Thank you!
Are soybean hulls the same or of any value?
Hello! Soybean hulls do not have the same nutritional value of soybeans. Protein percentages are relatively low at between 9-11% but it has lots of great fiber and helps maintain a healthy rumen. We like to add soybean hull pellets to our feed.
Thanks for sharing
Have a baby lamb with pneumonia he's ever had any shots other than antibiotic what else should I be doing for him to help him get over this
Hello Lora and thank you for the question. Pneumonia is a worrisome issue that can affect lambs and goat kids. While most will bounce back with time and care, some can develop permanent lung damage and have long term issues which can hurt growth and overall health. If you experience a lot of pneumonia issues on your farm, there are pneumonia vaccinations which can be administered to your babies which will significantly help to prevent illness. Now, on to your question....
Anytime we have a sick animal, we feel vitamin B injections can help significantly to give the animal a boost. Antibiotics can have negative consequences on gut bacteria as well. Antibiotics are indiscriminate killers of bacteria for all intents and purposes. There are some deep weed topics such as bacteria structure which categorizes theme as gram negative, gram positive, etc... My long winded point it that most broad spectrum antibiotics such as LA200, penicillin base, Nuflor, etc... all have the potential to kill helpful gut bacteria as well as the bacteria we are targeting with treatment. This is why one of the side effects so often associated with antibiotic use is diarrhea/scours. Any time you are providing livestock with antibiotics, you need to attempt to replace and preserve healthy gut bacteria as soon as possible. The best way to do this is to provide lots of clean water and good quality hay. Since we know gut bacteria aid in the production of vitamin B, it is helpful to offset a potential reduction in vitamin B with an injection or two. Anti inflammatory medications such as dexamethasone can be helpful to control the inflammatory response often associated with lung infections. Banamine can also help with pain and fever reduction. Generally speaking, sick animals on our farm receive antibiotics (when warranted), dexamethasone, banamine, vitamin B, and good quality feed. Hopefully this was helpful to you!
Thanks,
Tim
I am concerned about the high amount of phytoestrogens in soy.
Hello and thank you for watching our videos and for your comment. Phytoestrogens such as isoflavones found in soybeans and other legumes such as certain types of clover have been linked to reproductive issues in female livestock. While the amount of soy used in our feed mix shown should not affect your livestock fertility, we do understand your concern. Soy bean meal is the main ingredient used in most feeds and the higher the protein%, generally the higher the amount of soybeans. Soybean meal itself is about 40% protein. While the soybean amount used in our feed (or others with 20% protein or below) should have no negative affects on your ewe or doe fertility, if you are concerned about your personal intake of phytoestrogens, we would consider more research to see how much the added soybeans would put you at risk. We personally do not use raw soybeans in our mixes for various reasons but many other livestock producers such as cattle producers do.
When we use the term “raw soybeans” we are referring to uncooked. We do not advise uncooked soybeans for any producer. We feel they are too high in phytoestrogens/isoflavones and may (although not proven at the levels we use them) interfere with reproduction in our female stock. Also, raw soybeans have been shown to inhibit protein synthesis in juvenile lambs and goat kids. For this reason we would recommend roasted rolled soybeans or soybean meal.
When your feeding your mixed feed is that percentage based on a certain amount you’re feeding? Say you feed a goat 1 pound a day and your feed is 12 percent can you feed that pound in two feedings and maintain the 12 percent or does it double?
Hi, Curt! Thanks for watching our videos. This is a great question and it can be confusing. The protein percentage of the feed is constant. So, in the case of 12% protein feed, regardless if you eat a pound or 5 pounds, it will never be more or less than 12%. This number simply tells you what percentage of the feed is protein. So…. What does this mean for you? Well, it means the higher the protein feed, the less your animal has to eat to enjoy the benefits. A sheep and goat can generally tolerate up to about 20% protein feed. Anything over this cannot be properly digested and is hard on the kidneys/isn’t properly used.
Would I rather have you feed your animals 2 pounds of 6% protein or 1 pound of 12% protein…. I would go with the 12%. The TOTAL protein intake would be the same for each but it would be a lot easier on the animal to just have the 12%.
@@LinessaFarms ok that clears it up for me. Thank you
what breed of sheep do you guys raise?
We raise lots of different breeds. We have a lot of traditional polled Dorset (old body type) along with some Rambouillet, Southdown, Katahdin, Hampshires, Columbia, and Isle de France.
Will the soy effect hormones though? Estrogen like in humans?
This is a really complicated question. The short answer is the soy will more than likely have a possible effect on the hormone levels of the animal but not have an effect on the human consuming the animal. Multiple studies need to be looked at and of course, you have to look at the motivations behind the people writing the study and it’s reliability. Soy and soy products are high in phytoestrogens. This is almost impossible to regulate because the levels of these are determined by time of harvest, temperatures, etc… no 2 harvests are the same. Researchers using rats for studies struggle with this because it is almost impossible to control the hormone levels of rats because the feed always has different levels of these plant estrogens (assuming the food has soy). Almost all commercial animal feed contains soy. It is the safest and cheapest natural protein source we can find that is not meat based. Likewise, this is the reason why so many vegetarians and vegans choose soy and legumes (both very high in phytoestrogens) in their diets. It’s hard to get the protein you need to survive without meat or soy.
So, the big question is, does increased estrogen in meat equate to a notable amount of estrogen getting passed on to the consumer. The short answer is no. We have seen many studies where this question comes up because of the artificial hormones fed to cattle. Lots of studies look into how much of this get passed on to the consumer. In the end, while estrogen levels are slightly higher in beef fed artificial hormones, the amount is so slight when compared to food like soy, tofu, or beans, it’s basically a non issue. I have included an article for you to see regarding this.
I suspect there would be more difference in estrogens when comparing male and female animals than animals fed soy.
The other consideration to be made is the way animals metabolize these feeds as compared to people. Generally stated, sheep and goats do not get nearly as profound of an estrogenic effect from these feeds as compared to humans. Although, it still is a concern. Some legumes such as certain species of white clover have significantly high amounts of phytoestrogens and these can have some effect on breeding. Studies are cloudy on this topic though. Hopefully this helps. In the end, I would say you should not be concerned about your estrogen intake when feeding your animals feed containing some soy.
extension.sdstate.edu/hormones-beef-myths-vs-facts
@@LinessaFarms Thank you so much! I wasn't aware of the levels in certain white clover. That's interesting. We have some in our pastures. Truly I wasn't expecting a reply so it's greatly appreciated! I'll definitely check out the link.
@@Oldfarmlady it’s a valid question. I worry about kids especially getting too much soy. So far as the white clover is concerned, don’t loose too much sleep over it. We have it in our fields as well and we have not experienced any fertility issues. If there is an effect, it’s so small we can’t quantify it.
How can I find out how much fat it has in it?
Hello, Bobby. You would need to check the feed label for crude fat or check out a website like feedipedia.org
Our customers don’t like GMO so we’re out.
That’s understandable. We offer a wide range of free choice minerals for sheep, goats, and rams/bucks for people running grass fed operations if you ever need anything. Thanks for watching our videos and leaving a comment.
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