Doesn’t matter, if you’re good your good and that’s that, she lost get over it, she knew that coming into the fight too so it’s not like it was a random fight where it wasn’t allowed
Kickboxing rules: no clinch for survival, active clinch with knees, no throws, no elbows, a yellow card forfeits 25% of the fight purse and earns a 1-point deduction, a red card is a disqualification. Its clear why Valentina lose.. she breached the rule several times and got penalised in her striking count purse
You are right about KB rules but remember this point> Valentina won the 1st Kunlun Fight Championship 2014, only 1 year before this fight, under other particular rules, shared by Kunlun, not exactly Kickboxing rules. You can see the referee trying to explain to Valentina the rules. Shevchenko Team clearly explained that they received no clear information about changes in the rules, minutes before this fight; that is why Valentina never returned to the Kunlun event. A similar situation happened in Kung Fu Master vs Bai Jing where Valentina won by far. No excuses, however, Valentina always has been superior to Wang Cong, Bai Jing, and others.
@@ague6598 I like your points. Shevchenko lose because she didn't fight by the rule, thus fighting like a wild animal. Its a promoted match, not street fight. Even modern wars leaders put many boundaries for himself to be considered
@@ryanstephanus Valentina lost the fight, It is true but not fighting like a Wild Animal, She won, the first Kunlun, under other particular rules that she used in this second tournament. the root cause was: no clear new rules explained until minutes before the fight. That is why Shevchenko never comes back to Kunlun. Another fight where another Chinese Fighter benefited, on purpose vs Shevchenko, was against Bai Jing. These actions are not random.
@@ague6598kickboxing matches are not allowing to use elbows and clinch. Without these things, she will lose more thoroughly. After Valentina has these violations, she not only lost the initiative and score on the court, but also violated the rules. By the way, the referee of their match was Korean.
@@alvint848 we agree about kickboxing rules, however it has been explained several times, kunlun was not following kickboxing rules in previous events, and Valentina won the 1st championship, 1 year before this fight, with other particular rules explained by Kunlun. Most of people know Kunlun was not a serious promotion, and they can buy referees, from different nationalities, as you can see in other fights along the time.
This fight is under freestyle kicking boxing rule. Valentina is one of the greatest fighters for sure but she lost that fight because of not following the rules - initiate clinching and elbow.
People are surprised that Valentina got beaten in this fight, but the Chinese girl is a former Sanshou women champion, and she fought at 135 lb usually, she is bigger than Valentina, and it shows because Valentina could not physically dominate her when she knows her striking especially her punches could not keep up. No shame, and just appreciate a good fight, instead of making excuses.
surprised, because there wasn't any beat. the chinese woman was good, but weak punches and was unable to knock out val, so sorry, but there was not a real beat there.
Valentina hugging for dear life every couple seconds, as always, she does not have the warrior spirit to go toe to toe with the toughest warriors in her division
very well said. i saw her spit on one woman she beat. i was through with that skeleton head so and and so after that fight. now she grabbed and held none stop and hugged instead of fighting weak person. even hugged and then threw blows off the hugging. only way she could stay in this fight ugh. grasso beat the stew outta her TWICE
Are you joking? She butchered Alexa Grasso in the second fight. And went toe to toe with Amanda Nunes up a weight class Wipe off your Cheeto dust fingers while sitting on your couch
I’m a huge Valentina fan, but I can see clearly that she lost this fight. The opponent did exactly what it takes too deal with counter striker which is relentless pressure and match the speed of Valentina. I don’t know why people think Valentina won, look at her face
@@madgavin7568 Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from the Korean ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
I'm not sure if they had issues before, but you can tell Valentina dislike Wang Cong. Also, Wang Cong physical strength was a bug issue for Valentina. Let's see if Wang Cong can defend takedowns in the UFC
exactly bro, and people keep saying that she is lost without her clinching but im thinking like you, plus she did pretty well against her without her clinch, i dont know that much about kickboxing so I cant really say who won but it was close imo, Valentina challenges herself and that shows greatness
I did not observe many significant strike landed by either fighter. Surprisingly, Wang Cong was the aggressor in this fight. With a point deduction for Valentina, it did not surprise me that Wang had won the fight.
This fight must have been under kickboxing rules where there's no clinch, no throws, no elbows. This really doesn't favor Valentina as clinch and throws are her main strength. She's really lost without clinch
@@easternstrategist5276 both initiated the clinch here, both hit with knees out of the clinch. So I ask do they know the rules, or did they not explain the rules here.
Valentina won that fight. The only one fight where I had doubts was Shevchenko-Nunes 1, the rest, including Sch-Nun 2 or Sch-Carm 1, were won by Valentina. Currently She is the best in fly weight
Amanda Nunes won the first fight handily. She scored 10-9 in the first and 10-8 on Valentina in the second round but gassed trying to finish her. Valentina came back and won the third however even if you scored the third round 10-8 for Shevchenko Nunes still wins the fight 28-27, otherwise its 29-27 Nunes. Shevchenko didn't do enough to defeat Nunes in the second fight, it was a dull and disappointing bout that should have been scored a Draw as Nunes didn't do enough to beat Valentina either and I say that as a fan of the latter.
@@madgavin7568 😂she didn't do enough that's laughable it was a split decision after all against Amanda in the second fight, if you really would have watched that fight you would see that the aggressive and harder Strikes come from Shevchenko, also Amanda misses often. The only thing Amanda really was able to land are (the mostly light) leg kicks, some where really hurtful but that was not enough. Also Amanda tried to eyepoke her and get a warning, they talked a bit during and after the fight. Expecialy Amanda was on edge but both where on fire and a bit trashy. I loved the tension, they would be great TUF Coaches the two greatest female fighters for 3 time😏 🤔maybe after Amanda hopefully can get her shit together and win the rematch against Pena, we get a Trilogy. Valentina clearly lost the first fight, but it was still a close fight. I was impressed by Shevchenko how she could get out of the "RNC" neck crank, she didn't tapped like Connor or yeah Nunes (she quit because she was tired). It's never a fair fight between them
the first one against nunes she lost alright.. this one was meh.. the second with nunes she won and that other loss by tko was ridiculous... and i could not find the muay thai fight where she lost to Debby Urkens but i guess i wont because it is from 2008.. but as we can see. valentina does not lose by ko, real tko or whatever.. it was by split decisions by the referees
@@madgavin7568 What a bunch of BS. Nunes can get the 1st fight but don't try to embelish it with your 10-8 in the 2nd round BS. BULLET whooped her as much in the 3rd round and I love the gassed out excuse as usual for THE FAKE GOAT. BULLET showed what true heart is by getting beat in the 2nd round 10-9 not 10-8 at all and ended the round on top and came back in the 3rd round to whoop THE FAKE GOAT. Nunes edged the 1st round so it was 29-28 for THE FAKE GOAT in a very close fight. Would have been stopped if it was 5 rounds not because of gaz tank but because of lack of heart. 2nd fight is a clear win for THE GOAT....THE REAL GOAT. 2-4-5 easy for THE GOAT...THE REAL GOAT. Even 3 can go to her. I love the she didn't do enough excuse as if THE FAKE GOAT did anything at all the entire fight besides getting countered all night long. Boring or not THE FAKE GOAT got punched in the face 80% of the fight and was confused and getting tagged all night long. Even THE FAKE GOAT thought she won the lottery when they gave her the gift. 2nd fight was a clear win 3-2 at worse for THE GOAT....THE REAL GOAT.
@@kamalvin23 Agree you ass. You can't have the Thai style clinch and elbow in a kickboxing match. She broke the rule all the time and got what she deserved.
@@33badyess She did not counter, she tried tohug and even when hugging Wang Cong still threw punches at her body causing her to wind up and lose even more energy. It's no surprise here, she fought a bigger opponent, no one made excuses when she lost to Amanda Nunes, everyone just said she lost because Nunes is bigger, so why make excuses here?
I felt Valentina made more significant hits but Cong was being the aggressor and making more hits. Val is great at counters but therein is the problem, she almost only counters. Double edged sword. Again, Cong in my eyes didnt make any significant hits but definitely made more. If each hit counts regardless of how significant it was then Cong played it smart. Val also got points docked from the ref.
Deal with it. The ref was a Korean. And Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
Apparently, you dumbass didn't know that in a kickboxing match you can't grab your opponent to clinch or elbow. She fights like a chicken by the kickboxing standard.
She clearly didn't. She kept clinching which was against the rule. That alone should be disqualified or have multiple points deducted after repeated warning by the Korean ref.
Ese es el problema de pelear en un país tan comunista ellos siempre favorecen a los suyos aunque tengan mal desempeño en los deportes contra sus competidores por eso nadie quiere pelear en China ni en Corea
elbows are not allowed under this ruleset and it was mentioned several times by the commentators. Valentina was just trying to be sneaky with the illegal elbows.
No fue la mejor pelea de Valentina, pero el fallo fue totalmente Asiático, Valentina a demostrado que es demasiado buena en todos los sitios del mundo, es joven y tiene un historial de mucha gloria deportiva en todo el Orbe, a la asiática ¿QUIEN LA CONOCE FUERA DE SU SITIO?, NO FIGURA NI EN LAS ESTADÍSTICAS. Jamás tendrá la gloria de Valentina.En fin en el deporte se gana y se pierde, pero da coraje cuando hay estos malos fallos .
Ahora Valentina es la campeona peso mosca en ufc y ya va por la sexta defensa el 25 de septiembre vs Liz Carmouche y todos la conocemos en cambio la china ni redes sociales tiene
@@kamalvin23 Deal with it. The ref was a Korean. And Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
Valentina was slightly better; have to admit this was the closest fight I’ve seen of her (except mma); finally a rival at her level. Nevertheless she should’ve won this fight and kept her belt; as I said, she was superior, by a smaller margin than the rest of Valentina’s fights, but she definitely won this fight.
i agree, i especially dont see how they voted 32-27 thats insane to me since it was so close, did she lose because she kept on clinching or what? cause to me it seemed like Valentina won without a doubt even though it was a close fight and Valentina looked uncomfortable
@@yeahmhmmrightokaymhmmyeahsure Agreed the 32-27 is ridiculous. I said it under a different comment, it looks like they didn't make the rules clear here, after all bot initiated the clinch and trow knees and elbows. It was not a great performance by Shevchenko and Wang Cong.
@@madgavin7568 It didn't ruined the fight because of the rules. That's what rules are for with different style of competition. You failed to understand that as a casual armchair Valentina fanboy. She was actually lucky that the Korean ref didn't issue her multiple point deductions.
@@YCHTT What rules? If there was no clinching rules they should have been specified before the fight, but they weren't. Cut the authority bias. The ref was dodgy and so were the 'rules' that you so pompously proclaim Val broke. The fight was rigged.
@@madgavin7568 You are so stupid & bias, it's like going to the basketball game & ask why don't you specify that one can't use feet? Do you see how idiotic you are? Your comment will be ignored and no further comments are needed. IMAO
How is that a win for Wang Cong? lol For what? For brandishing wild with your hands to make points? No clinch allowed, nothing. What a moronic BS. In MMA, Val would eat that chicken alive lol
As much I like Valentina i did not like this match at all. The chinese girl was active and trying to do something and Valentina was just clinching all the time. Wand Cong was very inaccurate, punching air and could not do any real harm but she was very active. Good verdict I think
eso ya se venia venir valentina mucho abraza y eso le paso factura y la tarjeta le desconto puntos , aparte la rival era dura como todo asiatico pelean hasta morir y no le tienen miedo al golpe , tercero la china iba asía adelante y eso como que preocupo a valentina ya que paresia que sus golpe no le afectaban ala asiatica , en el tercer raun valentina fue mas , atacando estando pegada , pero es algo que su maestro nunca le ha enseñado atacar en distancia corta , que mejore eso y sera perfecta .
Nada de eso Valentina perdió porque los chinos favorecieron en su país a su peleadora por eso nadie quiere pelear ahí ni en Corea la china no domino en nada a Valentina no se que pelea viste
Sinceramente la pelea le robaron, fue más contundente el robo que los jueces del fallo hicieron a favor del rival, pero valentina fue más táctica, pero creo que le faltó más aliento , ánimo y seguridad , pero con calma y más táctica y todo saldrá mucho mejor, piensa valentina que también hay que estudiar al rival , solo así podrás vencerla , el Perú grande como tu mi linda valentina, orgulloso todos estamos por ti valentina, que el todo poderoso te guie y te bendiga por tu forma de ser y tu sacrificio que haces, gracias totales. 🙂
Analizando la pelea con objetividad y sin apasionamientos y viendo nuevamente la pelea, los resultados fueron injustos. La GANADORA DEBIÓ SER VALENTINA, POR LO QUE HIZO Y SE VIÓ DENTRO DEL CUADRILATERO.
@@maximovalverderomero3640 Lo que pasa es que peleó en China un país comunista y obvio iban a hacer ganar a su peleadora por eso el maldito referí y los jueces desfavorecieron a Valentina
They would not let her fight as she usually does. There were different rules, even they showed her a yellow card. It was not fair for Valentina. She is a great fighter and she deserves a fight with known rules. No la dejaron luchar como acostumbra hacerlo. Tienen otras reglas, incluso le mostraron tarjeta amarilla y eso le quita puntos. Por eso gano Wang Cong. En esas condiciones, con otras reglas es difícil de ganar, muy mala decisión haber elegido esa pelea, el equipo de Valentina Shevchenko debería tener mucho más cuidado en la selección de peleas. En conclusión no me pareció una buena pelea porque se usó otras reglas de lucha que desfavorecían a la campeona Valentina Shevchenko. Ánimo Valentina, es amargo perder pero fue por razones de reglamento más que desempeño.
This is why the Chinese sports fighters or their fight organizations will NEVER be taken seriously with this type of GARBAGE judging! Valentina was ROBBED!
@@lemonbitters4559 Nah. I pick on Valentina for having a padded record with 10 fighters that have Laughable records - seven 0-0 records, two unknown because they probably had losses and no wins, and Jan Finney with 8-10 and won only by UD. But being objective, Val should've won against Cong.
@@easternstrategist5276 regardless of the style Shevchenko was fighting or whether she was fighting a good fight, she lost before she stepped foot inside the ring.
it didnt even seem that close..bullet was more technical and elusive..she also had in my opinion, most of the significant strikes..the chinee girl is good tho but val won that fight..I was confused by the referee
Lost all respect for Valentina Shevchenko. She knows that clinching and elbows are not allowed in this match and despite the ref warning her 100 times, she kept throwing elbows and clinching. Dirty fighter and a sore loser.
Can anyone with kickboxing knowledge tell me if foot position is different between boxing/kickboxing? I love Valentina, but in watching this, couldn't help but notice for an orthodox southpaw matchup, her foot was almost always on the inside and not the one trapping position. Is it more worth it for kicks to be on the inside? Or was she just not doing well on her positions?
guys, i only watch mma so can someone please explain what valentina was doing wrong? i thought the clinch was a part of the sport, but she seems to keep getting yelled at / reprimanded, and then given a yellow card? so confused
This is a kickboxing fight under k 1 rules. You're not supposed to clinch or throw. Valentino was very used to clinching and throwing people because she did Muay Thai. If you ever watch Glory kickboxing fights it's the same rules. No clinching or throwing. Just pure kickboxing.
I’m a massive Valentina fan, but clearly Cong got more punches and kicks in. Valentina wouldn’t get back with kicks and punches when cong threw them at her and connected, she would just clinch her, which then the ref would pull them apart, On the other hand cong became more ferocious when she would get hit .Cong won fair and square.
Not so sure about that. All three rounds were pretty competitive and aside from the no clinching shenanigans Valentina wins rounds 1 and 3. Cong to her credit did enough to win round 2, but no way did she win 30-27 or even 29-28. Shitty judging and very confusing rules.
Peter yan vs sean o'malley that's match also remember velentina vs amanda nunnes match also remember anyway velentina is bad luck in unaminous decision but she is da best fighter women in da planet
Pelea totalmente ROBADA!! Siempre debe aver una gran diferencia regular para quitarle el titulo a un campeón eso me parece un robo! Valentina! tu eres la Campeona!!!
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Who’s here after the ufc debut
Me
Aqui
Me too😊
how old is she?
Alex vs Israel incoming . If UFC does this story right and match her up well, we gonna see Alex vs Israel female version soon
Who's here after Wang Cong won her UFC debut by KO
Schevchenko rematch soon . 2025 hell yeah. Alex vs Israel vibes
Wait what
This is a kickboxing fight with no clinch and elbow allowed. Now watch it again and do your math if you don't understand why Valentina lost.
Shevy was getting frustrated. See what she did at the end of the round. Thats how you know she felt overpowered
Doesn’t matter, if you’re good your good and that’s that, she lost get over it, she knew that coming into the fight too so it’s not like it was a random fight where it wasn’t allowed
Watching this after Wang Cong got into the UFC. I think the UFC will try to give her the Pereira style fast track.
Well hopefully if she is a special talent for the division, in this sense she has earned it.
Wang is a clown. The only Fast track in her future is to Bellator or back to China .
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Kickboxing rules: no clinch for survival, active clinch with knees, no throws, no elbows, a yellow card forfeits 25% of the fight purse and earns a 1-point deduction, a red card is a disqualification. Its clear why Valentina lose.. she breached the rule several times and got penalised in her striking count purse
You are right about KB rules but remember this point> Valentina won the 1st Kunlun Fight Championship 2014, only 1 year before this fight, under other particular rules, shared by Kunlun, not exactly Kickboxing rules. You can see the referee trying to explain to Valentina the rules. Shevchenko Team clearly explained that they received no clear information about changes in the rules, minutes before this fight; that is why Valentina never returned to the Kunlun event. A similar situation happened in Kung Fu Master vs Bai Jing where Valentina won by far. No excuses, however, Valentina always has been superior to Wang Cong, Bai Jing, and others.
@@ague6598 I like your points. Shevchenko lose because she didn't fight by the rule, thus fighting like a wild animal. Its a promoted match, not street fight. Even modern wars leaders put many boundaries for himself to be considered
@@ryanstephanus Valentina lost the fight, It is true but not fighting like a Wild Animal, She won, the first Kunlun, under other particular rules that she used in this second tournament. the root cause was: no clear new rules explained until minutes before the fight. That is why Shevchenko never comes back to Kunlun. Another fight where another Chinese Fighter benefited, on purpose vs Shevchenko, was against Bai Jing. These actions are not random.
@@ague6598kickboxing matches are not allowing to use elbows and clinch. Without these things, she will lose more thoroughly. After Valentina has these violations, she not only lost the initiative and score on the court, but also violated the rules. By the way, the referee of their match was Korean.
@@alvint848 we agree about kickboxing rules, however it has been explained several times, kunlun was not following kickboxing rules in previous events, and Valentina won the 1st championship, 1 year before this fight, with other particular rules explained by Kunlun. Most of people know Kunlun was not a serious promotion, and they can buy referees, from different nationalities, as you can see in other fights along the time.
valenttina clealry lost, all she did was nothing but hugging, clinch striking.
Lies.
@@madgavin7568 Denial... This is kickboxing, not muay thai.
Lost? You must be smoking crack!
Pereira vs Adesanya sequel but it's females
Hell yeah. If UFC is smart, hopefully schevchenko wins then give cong a top 10 by 2025. And by summer rematch cong and schev
Shevchanko continuously clinched despite it being a kickboxing ruleset. A fight she agreed to the rules of smh, deserved loss.
This fight is under freestyle kicking boxing rule. Valentina is one of the greatest fighters for sure but she lost that fight because of not following the rules - initiate clinching and elbow.
People are surprised that Valentina got beaten in this fight, but the Chinese girl is a former Sanshou women champion, and she fought at 135 lb usually, she is bigger than Valentina, and it shows because Valentina could not physically dominate her when she knows her striking especially her punches could not keep up. No shame, and just appreciate a good fight, instead of making excuses.
surprised, because there wasn't any beat. the chinese woman was good, but weak punches and was unable to knock out val, so sorry, but there was not a real beat there.
@@KovacsZoltan12 Well the judges disagree with you. 🤗
@@bjjbuster2164 Fuck the judges.
Valentina was robbed. Clear as day.
@@madgavin7568 Valentina kept hugging, not allowed in this fight.
Valentina hugging for dear life every couple seconds, as always, she does not have the warrior spirit to go toe to toe with the toughest warriors in her division
very well said. i saw her spit on one woman she beat. i was through with that skeleton head so and and so after that fight. now she grabbed and held none stop and hugged instead of fighting weak person. even hugged and then threw blows off the hugging. only way she could stay in this fight ugh. grasso beat the stew outta her TWICE
@@blackyboi2885grasso didn’t beat her badly lol. All fights were close.
Are you joking? She butchered Alexa Grasso in the second fight. And went toe to toe with Amanda Nunes up a weight class
Wipe off your Cheeto dust fingers while sitting on your couch
@@blackyboi2885Grasso lost the second fight and got battered lmao and she will lose again next weekend
I’m a huge Valentina fan, but I can see clearly that she lost this fight. The opponent did exactly what it takes too deal with counter striker which is relentless pressure and match the speed of Valentina. I don’t know why people think Valentina won, look at her face
i agree. I love Valentina but she definitely lost this
I don't see how Valentina lost this fight. She countered the shit out of her opponent.
@@Mr.Elliott do you have footage of Valentina getting hit clean in this fight. Can only see the few weak leg-slaps she got.
Yo vi una andanada de puños y patadas que aterrizaron en el cuerpo y la cara de la china.
@@madgavin7568 Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from the Korean ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
13:05 Valentina taunts her opponent after the bell. Joker needs to make her pay! Bully pay-back beatdown!
Female version of Alex Pereira
lol
😅🤣😂
I'm not sure if they had issues before, but you can tell Valentina dislike Wang Cong. Also, Wang Cong physical strength was a bug issue for Valentina.
Let's see if Wang Cong can defend takedowns in the UFC
Guys, she agreed to the rules and signed the contract. She has nobody but herself to blame for challenging a professional kickboxer.
She still out kickboxed her 😂😂😂she caught her leg then stared at her like she’s sped
exactly bro, and people keep saying that she is lost without her clinching but im thinking like you, plus she did pretty well against her without her clinch, i dont know that much about kickboxing so I cant really say who won but it was close imo, Valentina challenges herself and that shows greatness
I did not observe many significant strike landed by either fighter. Surprisingly, Wang Cong was the aggressor in this fight. With a point deduction for Valentina, it did not surprise me that Wang had won the fight.
rewatch the fight again. Valentina
This fight must have been under kickboxing rules where there's no clinch, no throws, no elbows. This really doesn't favor Valentina as clinch and throws are her main strength. She's really lost without clinch
Snake Griffin Yes it was under Kickboxing rules
@@iRAPMUZIX Someone who finally gets it. That last sentence is very accurate.
Valentina is never lost. Bet on that.
Kick boxing is shit rules
@@bjjbuster2164 i wouldnt say lost without it, she did pretty well in this fight without it
Everybody Wang Cong tonight!
Cong is Man
Shevchanko hitting more takedowns here than her MMA fights.
i had to see for myself because during her entrance the announcers mentioned she beat valetina
Valentino looks like she felt she just got robbed
***** I agree
She thinks that every time she loses
2-1 Shevchenko + point deduction = draw. Should have gone an extra round.
Imao she clinched way too often. It's not just the yellow card that deduced her point.
@@easternstrategist5276 is clinching not allowed in Muay thai
@@easternstrategist5276 both initiated the clinch here, both hit with knees out of the clinch. So I ask do they know the rules, or did they not explain the rules here.
@@sachinchauhan5853 that's not Muay Thai, it's a K1 fight
@@DarkJediFarkas ohk i didn't know that
Valentina won that fight. The only one fight where I had doubts was Shevchenko-Nunes 1, the rest, including Sch-Nun 2 or Sch-Carm 1, were won by Valentina. Currently She is the best in fly weight
Amanda Nunes won the first fight handily. She scored 10-9 in the first and 10-8 on Valentina in the second round but gassed trying to finish her. Valentina came back and won the third however even if you scored the third round 10-8 for Shevchenko Nunes still wins the fight 28-27, otherwise its 29-27 Nunes.
Shevchenko didn't do enough to defeat Nunes in the second fight, it was a dull and disappointing bout that should have been scored a Draw as Nunes didn't do enough to beat Valentina either and I say that as a fan of the latter.
@@madgavin7568 😂she didn't do enough that's laughable it was a split decision after all against Amanda in the second fight, if you really would have watched that fight you would see that the aggressive and harder Strikes come from Shevchenko, also Amanda misses often. The only thing Amanda really was able to land are (the mostly light) leg kicks, some where really hurtful but that was not enough. Also Amanda tried to eyepoke her and get a warning, they talked a bit during and after the fight. Expecialy Amanda was on edge but both where on fire and a bit trashy. I loved the tension, they would be great TUF Coaches the two greatest female fighters for 3 time😏 🤔maybe after Amanda hopefully can get her shit together and win the rematch against Pena, we get a Trilogy.
Valentina clearly lost the first fight, but it was still a close fight.
I was impressed by Shevchenko how she could get out of the "RNC" neck crank, she didn't tapped like Connor or yeah Nunes (she quit because she was tired). It's never a fair fight between them
Yes she did.
the first one against nunes she lost alright.. this one was meh.. the second with nunes she won and that other loss by tko was ridiculous... and i could not find the muay thai fight where she lost to Debby Urkens but i guess i wont because it is from 2008.. but as we can see. valentina does not lose by ko, real tko or whatever.. it was by split decisions by the referees
@@madgavin7568 What a bunch of BS. Nunes can get the 1st fight but don't try to embelish it with your 10-8 in the 2nd round BS. BULLET whooped her as much in the 3rd round and I love the gassed out excuse as usual for THE FAKE GOAT. BULLET showed what true heart is by getting beat in the 2nd round 10-9 not 10-8 at all and ended the round on top and came back in the 3rd round to whoop THE FAKE GOAT. Nunes edged the 1st round so it was 29-28 for THE FAKE GOAT in a very close fight. Would have been stopped if it was 5 rounds not because of gaz tank but because of lack of heart. 2nd fight is a clear win for THE GOAT....THE REAL GOAT. 2-4-5 easy for THE GOAT...THE REAL GOAT. Even 3 can go to her. I love the she didn't do enough excuse as if THE FAKE GOAT did anything at all the entire fight besides getting countered all night long. Boring or not THE FAKE GOAT got punched in the face 80% of the fight and was confused and getting tagged all night long. Even THE FAKE GOAT thought she won the lottery when they gave her the gift. 2nd fight was a clear win 3-2 at worse for THE GOAT....THE REAL GOAT.
Shevchenko won, just because the other female fighter was on her country.
Racists lol
郑宏翔 but it’s true the Chinese girl only won because of the point reduction and in her country favor. Valentina clearly one
Yes , fully agreed .. Valentina was robbed by the corrupted referee and its judges, in favour to their own country girl
@@kamalvin23 Agree you ass. You can't have the Thai style clinch and elbow in a kickboxing match. She broke the rule all the time and got what she deserved.
郑宏翔 racist your ass
wang cong is valentinas alex pierra to izzy. saying it now mf's.
I felt that Valentina won.
you are blind, idiot.
racist. chinese is superior in this fight.
@@freeworld88888 LOL valentina countered the fuck outta that girl. Val is the UFC flyweight champion now though. Val would still kick her ass.
@@33badyess She did not counter, she tried tohug and even when hugging Wang Cong still threw punches at her body causing her to wind up and lose even more energy. It's no surprise here, she fought a bigger opponent, no one made excuses when she lost to Amanda Nunes, everyone just said she lost because Nunes is bigger, so why make excuses here?
I felt Valentina made more significant hits but Cong was being the aggressor and making more hits. Val is great at counters but therein is the problem, she almost only counters. Double edged sword. Again, Cong in my eyes didnt make any significant hits but definitely made more. If each hit counts regardless of how significant it was then Cong played it smart. Val also got points docked from the ref.
bien tu l'as juste senti parce qu'elle n'a pas dominé le combat pas un seul round
Valentina won 1st and 3rd rounds.
But she lost the game.
You're not the judge.
Deal with it. The ref was a Korean. And Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
No need to fight cans in the UFC. She needs fast tracking like Alex Pereira.
no good without the clinch..damn thats the hole in her defense
Valentina la destroso, es inexplicable como no gano. Fue un fraude.
Grande El PERU TE AMA VALENTINA
valentina no deja de sorprender mas alla de la derrota injusta su tecnica es perfecta
Simon
I searched to see one of the few fights Valentina ever lost in her martial arts career, but in my opinion she won this fight too.
DOZIER MUZIC Same as her second fight vs Amanda 😏
Apparently, you dumbass didn't know that in a kickboxing match you can't grab your opponent to clinch or elbow. She fights like a chicken by the kickboxing standard.
She clearly didn't. She kept clinching which was against the rule. That alone should be disqualified or have multiple points deducted after repeated warning by the Korean ref.
Guess who’s in the UFC now.
idk about that one. the bullet def had the first and last round. doesn't quite make sense.
I really don't like this fight but i have Shevchenko winning.
The Referee gives her a Yellow card. It was on of her worst fights.
Resultado dudoso, para quitarle el titulo a una campeona debes haber peleado muy por encima del rival y Wang Cong no lo estuvo.
Ese es el problema de pelear en un país tan comunista ellos siempre favorecen a los suyos aunque tengan mal desempeño en los deportes contra sus competidores por eso nadie quiere pelear en China ni en Corea
07:02 muy mal el referí tocándole el rostro a Valentina . Cómo se atreve? Ahí se vio el favoritismo
Su ignoracia es infinita😢
Are elbows legal? Saw Shevchenko throw a few against the ropes.
elbows are not allowed under this ruleset and it was mentioned several times by the commentators. Valentina was just trying to be sneaky with the illegal elbows.
No fue la mejor pelea de Valentina, pero el fallo fue totalmente Asiático, Valentina a demostrado que es demasiado buena en todos los sitios del mundo, es joven y tiene un historial de mucha gloria deportiva en todo el Orbe, a la asiática ¿QUIEN LA CONOCE FUERA DE SU SITIO?, NO FIGURA NI EN LAS ESTADÍSTICAS. Jamás tendrá la gloria de Valentina.En fin en el deporte se gana y se pierde, pero da coraje cuando hay estos malos fallos .
Ahora Valentina es la campeona peso mosca en ufc y ya va por la sexta defensa el 25 de septiembre vs Liz Carmouche y todos la conocemos en cambio la china ni redes sociales tiene
No respect for Kunlun Fight ! Shevchenko won that fight.
Yes , it's a controversial fight in favour to their 'country girl' , fucked up referee and judges , Boooh to KL fight 👎
Shevchenko took money before the fight .
@@kamalvin23 Deal with it. The ref was a Korean. And Shevchenko should have many points deducted who kept clinching after repeated warning from ref. She lost that fight. She wasn't willing to fight based on the rules & scared to exchange against Wang hence kept clinching instead.
Bias judging. It's the same way with Japanese judging, too...when there's a national and a foreigner. All sorts of shittiness...
Valentina was slightly better; have to admit this was the closest fight I’ve seen of her (except mma); finally a rival at her level.
Nevertheless she should’ve won this fight and kept her belt; as I said, she was superior, by a smaller margin than the rest of Valentina’s fights, but she definitely won this fight.
i agree, i especially dont see how they voted 32-27 thats insane to me since it was so close, did she lose because she kept on clinching or what? cause to me it seemed like Valentina won without a doubt even though it was a close fight and Valentina looked uncomfortable
@@yeahmhmmrightokaymhmmyeahsure Agreed the 32-27 is ridiculous. I said it under a different comment, it looks like they didn't make the rules clear here, after all bot initiated the clinch and trow knees and elbows. It was not a great performance by Shevchenko and Wang Cong.
I love Valentina!!
good fight rounds fairly close but i dont see how valentina lost that one bwtf do i know
The 'no clinching' shenanigans ruined the fight. Judging sucked as well.
@@madgavin7568 It didn't ruined the fight because of the rules. That's what rules are for with different style of competition. You failed to understand that as a casual armchair Valentina fanboy. She was actually lucky that the Korean ref didn't issue her multiple point deductions.
@@YCHTT What rules? If there was no clinching rules they should have been specified before the fight, but they weren't.
Cut the authority bias. The ref was dodgy and so were the 'rules' that you so pompously proclaim Val broke. The fight was rigged.
@@madgavin7568 You are so stupid & bias, it's like going to the basketball game & ask why don't you specify that one can't use feet? Do you see how idiotic you are? Your comment will be ignored and no further comments are needed. IMAO
Clinching more like Valentina was out of gas and couldn't hang she look for every opportunity to hug instead of fight.
¿Valentina tuvo un(a) rival?..A pesar de todo, sigo pensando que la pelea lo ganó Valentina a todas luces.
How is that a win for Wang Cong? lol For what? For brandishing wild with your hands to make points? No clinch allowed, nothing. What a moronic BS. In MMA, Val would eat that chicken alive lol
Apparently, you dumbass didn't know that in a kickboxing match you can't grab your opponent to clinch or elbow. She fights like a chicken.
te amo valentina
As much I like Valentina i did not like this match at all. The chinese girl was active and trying to do something and Valentina was just clinching all the time. Wand Cong was very inaccurate, punching air and could not do any real harm but she was very active. Good verdict I think
eso ya se venia venir valentina mucho abraza y eso le paso factura y la tarjeta le desconto puntos , aparte la rival era dura como todo asiatico pelean hasta morir y no le tienen miedo al golpe , tercero la china iba asía adelante y eso como que preocupo a valentina ya que paresia que sus golpe no le afectaban ala asiatica , en el tercer raun valentina fue mas , atacando estando pegada , pero es algo que su maestro nunca le ha enseñado atacar en distancia corta , que mejore eso y sera perfecta .
Nada de eso Valentina perdió porque los chinos favorecieron en su país a su peleadora por eso nadie quiere pelear ahí ni en Corea la china no domino en nada a Valentina no se que pelea viste
17 x muay tai and k1 champion ofcourse shevchenko will clinch what did everyone expect it’s natural for her
Sinceramente la pelea le robaron, fue más contundente el robo que los jueces del fallo hicieron a favor del rival, pero valentina fue más táctica, pero creo que le faltó más aliento , ánimo y seguridad , pero con calma y más táctica y todo saldrá mucho mejor, piensa valentina que también hay que estudiar al rival , solo así podrás vencerla , el Perú grande como tu mi linda valentina, orgulloso todos estamos por ti valentina, que el todo poderoso te guie y te bendiga por tu forma de ser y tu sacrificio que haces, gracias totales. 🙂
Legit just saw her sleep some girl in like 1 minute
Valentina ganó limpiamente y por lejos. Es un fallo localista e injusto..
Analizando la pelea con objetividad y sin apasionamientos y viendo nuevamente la pelea, los resultados fueron injustos. La GANADORA DEBIÓ SER VALENTINA, POR LO QUE HIZO Y SE VIÓ DENTRO DEL CUADRILATERO.
@@maximovalverderomero3640 Lo que pasa es que peleó en China un país comunista y obvio iban a hacer ganar a su peleadora por eso el maldito referí y los jueces desfavorecieron a Valentina
They would not let her fight as she usually does. There were different rules, even they showed her a yellow card. It was not fair for Valentina. She is a great fighter and she deserves a fight with known rules.
No la dejaron luchar como acostumbra hacerlo. Tienen otras reglas, incluso le mostraron tarjeta amarilla y eso le quita puntos. Por eso gano Wang Cong. En esas condiciones, con otras reglas es difícil de ganar, muy mala decisión haber elegido esa pelea, el equipo de Valentina Shevchenko debería tener mucho más cuidado en la selección de peleas.
En conclusión no me pareció una buena pelea porque se usó otras reglas de lucha que desfavorecían a la campeona Valentina Shevchenko. Ánimo Valentina, es amargo perder pero fue por razones de reglamento más que desempeño.
Muy buena pelea dora y le dió la muenda a mi Valentina chevchenco, muy buena rival, mis respetos
No holding so simple.
shevchenko really emoted in the entrance
This is why the Chinese sports fighters or their fight organizations will NEVER be taken seriously with this type of GARBAGE judging!
Valentina was ROBBED!
And yet there's now a Chinese UFC champion, but go ahead and stay mad because your favorite fighter lost to one.
No whitey wasn't robbed
BA C they’re both white ? Are u stupid ?
@@lemonbitters4559
Nah.
I pick on Valentina for having a padded record with 10 fighters that have Laughable records - seven 0-0 records, two unknown because they probably had losses and no wins, and Jan Finney with 8-10 and won only by UD.
But being objective, Val should've won against Cong.
I'm 11 min in and China still hasn't hit her..
And whitey did?
valentina won
*Valentina looses fight* Her delusional fans: Valentina Won that fight I have no evidence nor proof but she won
@@JackGlockyy the fight is proof ass wipe
Was robbed
@@JackGlockyywe are all aloud opinions!
Valentina got Robbed!!!!!!!! Valentina Clearly Won!!
Rob you ass. You can't have the Thai style clinch and elbow in a kickboxing match. She broke the rule all the time and got what she deserved.
@@easternstrategist5276 regardless of the style Shevchenko was fighting or whether she was fighting a good fight, she lost before she stepped foot inside the ring.
Kong won, she controlled the entire fight. Valentina was going back then entire time. But it was a closed fight tho.
it didnt even seem that close..bullet was more technical and elusive..she also had in my opinion, most of the significant strikes..the chinee girl is good tho but val won that fight..I was confused by the referee
6.5
Cant win em all, that's a fact .... but I will always love Valentina...... The best of the best
she WON this fight! she was robbed.
In this fight Valentina Savchenko wins, the Chinese judges cheat in judgment and the referees also favor Chinese fighters.
you are so stupid😅
It would have been a close fight in any country, but a fairer verdict in the U.S. where Valentina would have been declared the winner.
@anthony joshua natty or not Everyone has an opinion, but aside from that -- who do YOU think really won this fight?
Lost all respect for Valentina Shevchenko. She knows that clinching and elbows are not allowed in this match and despite the ref warning her 100 times, she kept throwing elbows and clinching. Dirty fighter and a sore loser.
Valentina is clear winner
is this kickboxing or muay thai?
kickboxing, but blonde chick clinching all the time
Brava la china pero recibió una andanada de puños y patadas por parte de Valentina,
El fallo fue localista.
que publico mas frio.
Damn she's clinch merchant in Kickboxing too
Feels like another pierea vs izzy coming
Valentina lost 29-28. She won 3rd round. This is so weird to see
What was the yellow card for? What was she doing that was illegal? Was it her wrapping the neck? It’s 2nd nature for Muay Thai fighters...
What is the Asian lady's record?
Valentina heavily relies on the clinch against aggressive opponents in Muay Thai and it messed her up here. She just wasn't used to these rules.
bueno la china sorprendio a los jueces,pero valentina es mejor 100 veces mejor eso ni dudarlo y sin duda valentina le pedira la revancha
Hasta tarjeta amarilla le puso desgraciado arbitro
Can anyone with kickboxing knowledge tell me if foot position is different between boxing/kickboxing?
I love Valentina, but in watching this, couldn't help but notice for an orthodox southpaw matchup, her foot was almost always on the inside and not the one trapping position.
Is it more worth it for kicks to be on the inside? Or was she just not doing well on her positions?
valentina is a muay thai fighter, which uses a lot of clinching, and elbows. she couldn't stop clinching because thats what she's used to I guess
guys, i only watch mma so can someone please explain what valentina was doing wrong? i thought the clinch was a part of the sport, but she seems to keep getting yelled at / reprimanded, and then given a yellow card? so confused
This is a kickboxing fight under k 1 rules. You're not supposed to clinch or throw. Valentino was very used to clinching and throwing people because she did Muay Thai. If you ever watch Glory kickboxing fights it's the same rules. No clinching or throwing. Just pure kickboxing.
Desde PERU Saludos para ti Valentina.
Valentina was dominant, in my opinion she won
She was backing up and clinching all time bru… she also elbowed like 3 times in the 3rd round which is illegal in freestyle kickboxing.
VALENTINA ES LA MEJOR..............VAMOS PERU
Another round please
Damn Valentina had that song for a long while
No goo ....Valentina winner 🎉 ❤ not correctly !😢
I’m a massive Valentina fan, but clearly Cong got more punches and kicks in. Valentina wouldn’t get back with kicks and punches when cong threw them at her and connected, she would just clinch her, which then the ref would pull them apart, On the other hand cong became more ferocious when she would get hit .Cong won fair and square.
Not so sure about that. All three rounds were pretty competitive and aside from the no clinching shenanigans Valentina wins rounds 1 and 3. Cong to her credit did enough to win round 2, but no way did she win 30-27 or even 29-28. Shitty judging and very confusing rules.
Si tengo una hija su nombre sera valentina.
This is a tough crowd
valentina won this fight
valentina is the real winner.
11:42 la cara de Valentina lo dice todo
Now I see why she hate Weili Zhang. Chinese PTSD
Obvious troll is obvious.
I like see that Asian women in octagon with Valentina I am sure she won't do any good and I believe that fight should be drought
Peter yan vs sean o'malley that's match also remember velentina vs amanda nunnes match also remember anyway velentina is bad luck in unaminous decision but she is da best fighter women in da planet
Just watched her UFC debut
Pelea totalmente ROBADA!! Siempre debe aver una gran diferencia regular para quitarle el titulo a un campeón eso me parece un robo! Valentina! tu eres la Campeona!!!
Valentina veniste de principio a fin.vale tu victoria.