KARDASHIAN REUNION: Reaction & Plastic Surgery Analysis - Was I Wrong?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- I am reacting to, and analyzing the Keeping Up With The Kardashians, to see if my past plastic surgery analysis videos were correct, or if I can see something different on video. I will be covering Kris Jenner, Kim Kardashian, Kourtney Kardashian, Khloe Kardashian, Kendall Jenner, and Kylie Jenner. #KUWTK #LorryHill #PlasticSurgery
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I will cover the following parts of the various Kar./Jenner’s faces and bodies. First I discuss their skin, and why it looks the way it does on the episode. I then talk about how plastic surgery is easy to plan around the show’s schedule and how it is planned. I then discuss why 3 of the sisters have the same look in their eyes. I then discuss Kim Kardashian, her amazing dress, then really look at her lips and side profile to see what is visible. Next is her nose and upper lip, and what happened.
Following Kim, we talk about Khloe and why I think she looks the best she ever has. I discuss how her smile is different, but in the best way compared to her sisters. I see some changes to her cheeks and jaw. I was wrong about something in the past.
Next up is Kris, and I talk about how she is keeping up her maintenance, and some notes about her neck lift in the past.
Next is Kourtney, her eyes, some talk about filler, and some things that she has not changed. I even confirm some analysis I made in the past. You’ll want to hear about that.
Kendall is after Kourtney and I was shocked by her voice, and picked out some things that look so different from her social media.
Last is Kylie Jenner, and her face is looking fuller, and i discuss the combination of natural and medical reasons. There are some thoughts I give about why she looks different than what we normally see her. She even admitted to a surgery, but maybe it wasn’t enough. Make sure to watch my thoughts about it and let me know your thoughts too.
Diet and exercise is what the Kardashians claim is the reason for their bodies, however what they claim to do, and the standard they set is misleading because they have also had surgeries to attain what they have. They have set a standard that is not naturally able to be achieved for everyone.
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“we get up, we have private chefs, personal trainers & endless money” -if Kim were honest
+ plastic surgeons
Don’t forget the nanny’s who take care of their kids and their plastic surgeons
Yeah they making those crazy standard
Plus tons of surgeries
The fact she still thinks everyone is dumb enough to believe that her droopy nappy for a butt with them thin legs is by working out , it really offends my intelligence
thay all talk about being happy with your real body if a real photo gets leaked there suing anyone who uses it , only reason they started working out obsessively is bc when you get a bbl done they will tell you to work out to keep it in shape & help reduce cellulite and they all had babys afterwards takes a toll on your body y'all remember when the real paparazzi got a pic of her on a beach with her real body not her own paid paparazzi that Photoshop her ass to look small and cute and everyone turned on her for faking and promoting products that give that shape
when she looked nothing like her paparazzi photos and promoting fake beauty standers that even they cant achieve nor can a plastic surgeon only filters and Photoshop can give you that look
Kylie is starting to look like a sophisticated 40-something socialite. She certainly doesn’t look bad, but she also doesn’t look like a girl in her early 20s!
She has ruined her face. Period. Its an addiction. By the time she is 40, if she will look like cat woman if she does not see a therapist to adress her insecurities.
So agree with you, she has lost that beauty and innocent youth of the 20+ girls...sad
Exactly. Doing plastic surgery when you’re so young just makes you look older.
Yup. Yet the few time’s you’ve seen her without much makeup, she looks so much younger.
She looks frightening
A big butt doesn't go along with skinny legs, a big butt goes along with THICKKKK thighs!
Right and if you workout with this body type you end up building some muscles, which these chicks don't have. They look scrawny and weak
@@equestrianna13 I’m sorry you had to go through that.:/ Keep your head up, and remember you’re beautiful still.❤️
Exactly that what makes it so obvious!
Yes mam!
@@equestrianna13 I got called "big butt" (in a mean way) all through middle school but then once Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce got big by the time I hit high-school, suddenly my big butt was my best feature.🙄 And now it's not even big by todays bbl standards.😂
Kim talking about how they don't promote an unrealistic beauty standard while having an undisclosed beauty filter on her whole face and body sent me 💀
How is her just existing "promoting" a standard? She's not encouraging anyone to do what she's done. That's on the people who idolizes women on IG if they feel pressure.
Is the woman I saw on the street the other day promoting makeup because she had gorgeous red lip and now I want to buy a new lipstick? Just because you see another woman doing something doesn't mean you HAVE to implement it in your life too.
@@user-ml8er2ct3h She doesn't owe anyone anything, she doesn't have to talk about it. Anyone with eyes should be able to tell her body & face are drastically different from her sex tape days to now.
In the 90's being Kate Moss thin was cool, now it's the exaggerated hourglass. Trends come and go. You have to decide what kind of body YOU want for YOU and not be swayed by what is currently hyped up.
@@user-ml8er2ct3h I'm sorry, I just don't agree. It's on each individual to develop their own self esteem. Society gave celebrities power by being hungry for information about them. It gave rise to the paparazzi and the gossip magazines we see today. These people want to act, sing or sell lipstick. They didn't sign up to be role models or raise people's kids. It's unfair to put that on them. People need to take accountability for themselves and not blame social media. You feel bad looking at IG? Then get off, it's very simple.
LMAOO
@ఌシ i like the kardashains but the promting fitness teas, waist trainers the massive amount of photoshop is to trick the public, its not like they got one bbl and dont want to share it because its personal
“She really believes that they worked for those bodies” killed me 🤣🤣
No lie tho
Well… they kinda did 🤣😅
They’ve brainwashed themselves at this point 😫😅
@@kimkitty3914 that’s also how I took it. Kim worked for the money that paid for that body, so in that way she worked for it
They literally believe their own lies 😂
Kylie is the youngest but literally she looks the oldest sister. She looks like an aunt in 45. Her Instagram photos are bomb but now I see her video, talking she literally look like the one in their 40s
fr i remember thinking kendall was the youngest 💀
For real I'm shocked
Kylie looks older than Kourtney
She does give me granny vibes...hard to believe she's only in her 20s....unreal.
Agree
When Kim says they worked hard for their beauty, she really means they worked for the money to buy it lmao. That's probably why she really believes it. Because she was able to attain it.
True that what I though of this too.
Well Kris worked hard for the money
@@jupiterisaak1004 even if they grew up rich and had a lot of help with their businesses, I'm not going to discredit their version of hard work. Sure it's not the same as ours, but that doesn't change the fact that they are all constantly working--whether it's photoshoots, filming, social media, events, and sponsorships, which can't be easy to be constantly doing. I'm not even a fan of theirs and never saw their show, but I can respect some of what I see in terms of their work ethic, (though the respect still pretty low because of all the other stuff they do).
Going through all those procedures in order to achieve the career they did is a form of work in my opinion. Imagine the pain and recovery everytime. I see it this way personally.
She worked hard on her back. That's what she means she earned it
You could see the panic in Kendall's eyes at one point when Khloe was going through what she "claims" she had done.. she thought he was gonna ask each of them the same question.
Omg lol yes
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I’m seeing a lot of comments about their body type being common amongst black women and I think it’s problematic because many of us feel like we’re supposed to look this way and far more black women are getting bbls and other plastic surgery because it’s expected of us to have the most voluptuous bodies and for many of us it’s damaging to our self esteem. Most women regardless of race are not naturally shaped like that.
Yes agree with this also ; I’m seeing what you are describing; increase in BBLS and the expectation to have only one type of body shape .
@@LorryHill thanks for the response ❤️ love your videos
Thank you for giving your perspective; it’s appreciated!
Yes 👏🏽 as someone who works in a PS office most of the clients are black women and it’s mind blowing how this standard fkd a whole generation up thinking what is supposed to be beautiful etc. So glad natural bodies are back in along with being thin etc
Not all black people have big lips but it’s still a black feature
"Any beauty standard that relies on some plastic surgery should be considered an unattainable beauty standard" thanks Lorry to bring out the delusion ppl have nowadays. Love your videos😍😍
Edit: thank you for the likes!!!
This is this family is promoted left, right and center by the cosmetic industry. Big money with these living bratz dolls.
🤔Actually...no. If the standard relies in plastic surgery, it’s attainable... if you have money😂
@@JLizi well then anything is attainable if u have money 😂
@@JLizi dude, you can go to the moon with enough money. It’s unattainable, period.
Completely disagree! Cuz these women are getting surgery to have hips and ass like black and hispanic women. Also with the lips, eye and eyebrow lifts and cheek filler! All natural features of beautiful hispanic and black women! So TECHNICALLY it's ONLY a unattainable beauty standard to WHITE PEOPLE! 🙄🤣💯💋
Kourtney actually looks her age, and I'm here for it!
She does
Most of the time, surgery doesn’t make you look younger, just better looking for your age
I want some sushi now thanks to your pfp 🤤
@@jeromewilson1048 in my opinion, as it should be, otherwise people look kinda off... You know, like, you actually can't hide life and the experiences life throws at you. The best you can do is to optimize and I think that is when everyone looks their best.
@@immydubby5789 I always want sushi
I work out every day and my body has never drastically changed. It’s gotten thinner and firmer but has never changed it’s biological shape. That’s not normal to just lose weight in your waist but not to your butt or breasts.
eh some ppl do cling onto fat in their hips and breasts more than other places. HOWEVER.... there is no way no how you can get a huge round butt and hips AND skinny ass thighs lol. that is just 100% surgery
I have naturally big hips, butt, and legs and I workout usually every day (except when I'm pregnant which I currently am, I do 4 days a week) I'm 32 right now and my body has gotten tighter here or there but the shape has ALWAYS stayed the same. And trust me when I say I spent endless hours researching workouts and ways to make my legs leaner.
100%
YES!!
I will never understand why society considers these women the beauty "standard" when nothing about them is real, if I paid for my medical degree, would people call me the best doctor in the world and come to my practice? No. It's a dumb example but it's so sad to see young women compare themselves to them and desperately buy their teas, their corsets or their lipkits so they might come closer to what they look like. In reality, you'd need at least 100k thousand in procedures and another million in the bank to maintain the tans, the fillers, get the wigs, buy the clothes, pay the trainers, pay the chefs, pay the nannys, etc.
I don't think society considers them the "standard."
Not to mention quality food. One may work out every day if they do not have access to healthy food, which tends to be expensive, then it is a waste of time.
Agree lol
The Kardashians are the personification of vanity and superficiality. Self worth based on how one looks.
I think that’s a great example of explaining. I agree 💯
Kim’s answer made me mad. Did working out get you that face and body transformation? Absolutely not! There is nothing wrong with plastic surgery but we are no fools, come on
Agree
Im starting to think Kim is a narcissist.... she’s so delusional
Perhaps they are the ones that are fools, sadly...maybe, they are just dumb, plain and simple
I know they really think they are fooling America and that were a bunch of blind idiots
Lol I never knew "working out" can get you a new jaw structure. She's a delusional liar
I never thought the full diaper look was cute. It’s not natural looking to have skinny legs and thighs and then a swollen looking butt that resembles a full diaper.
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"Full diaper look"! I love it! 😂😂😂
Im fkn dyingggg
LMAO
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Exactly
Andy Cohen's body language after Kim's first response regarding unattainable beauty standards, said it all. He didht buy it. 💁🏽♀️
I know, I caught that too.
Lol, he's seeing her in real life😂😂😂
Ikrrrr
He said “lemme turn and grab my cup chile”
yun PURP 😂😂😂same
Kim is really delusional, she doesn’t think that those beauty standards are unattainable ONLY because she has the money to pay for them. She knows that it’s not just exercise, but she’ll never admit it. Denial.
It's mostly good genes...imo.
@@allkindsamusicchick Have you watched Lorry's video on Kim? She highlights the procedures which she thinks Kim has gotten... and there's a lot of them.
Even if it was just exercise (which we know it’s not) normal people have jobs and can’t just workout 3 times a day
Exactly she actually slipped up, she said “we get up, we work,....we workout”...yeah they work for the money to pay for it all.
@@allkindsamusicchick It is not just good genes though! I mean yes if you remember what she looked like before when she became famous she was already gorgeous. But she looks nothing like her natural self at all. By now any signs of aging will never been seen becuase she has the money to erase it all so I don't think we can honestly say it's becuase she has good genes.
What Kim is saying, “we get up and we go to the Dr. get the fat sucked out, then we put on active ware, take a photo for the gram”, yep that’s a workout!
Hahaha..so true👍🏾🤣😂🤦🏾♀️
😂😂😂 good one
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Yes 😂
I think when she said we work hard for our bodies she means they all have serious healing processed due to surgery that aren't easy to go through so in her mind that may seem like "hard work"
I'm glad Lorry made videos on the Kardashians and celebs because if I hadn't watched those, I wouldn't understand how many procedures celebs go through to look perfect.
PeRfEcT
same!! Lorry opened up my eyes/my mind to plastic surgery - I'm grateful
Do they look perfect though? They look weird to me
@@AmyB369 Not at all, they look like blow-up dolls.
Same. Before I saw Lorry's videos I knew they'd had a couple of surgeries but because I was uneducated on all the stuff celebrities get done, I honestly believed some of the face stuff was makeup/lightling/whatever they make you believe to sell product. I didn't see the small changes they had done over time.
Kim’s skin tone is darker than mine now! And I’m a person of color. Seriously wtf
She’s Armenian.
Her father is Middle Eastern. They can get very dark.
@@graceg3250
Armenian’s are Caucasian. Kim just doubles down on the spray tan!
@@graceg3250 are y’all dumb? she was a white armenian . she literally looks black here
She’s right to protect her skin and use fake tan instead. She looks great with or without a tan...
I’m half African and Kim’s fake tan in this clip is darker than me. It looks darker than her black biracial children. I honestly don’t know what to say at this point lol
I mean kim isn't really white.
@@jasper8961
Kim is Caucasian.
@@ez162 she might be, but even before she was tan skinned, if anything she's whitened her skin over the years
@k. emine you can't say that for all people. It's like saying all hispanics are tan, some are pale white. If you look at older pics of kim, she looks the same as she does in the video. ( Skin color-wise)
@k. emine most Armenians are olive skinned. But yeah Kim is still Caucasian.
Kim got so defensive you can already see she doesn’t even believe herself about not setting unattainable standards
But she didn’t set the standard.. it’s ppl who did
@@raqui174 ehhhh- to some extent. But let’s not act like Kim is innocent here. She out of everyone in the group promoted the most unrealistic, money grabbing products I’ve ever seen
@@Same1689hfrh she didn’t promote anything.. I never saw a campaign where she promoted that type of body .. ppl saw it thought it looked nice and then wanted to imitate her.. ppl love imitating others..she never says go do a bbl. we can’t blame her for other ppls actions
@@raqui174 no I’m talking about her lollipop weight loss candy( false and she was sued), waist trainer( dangerous, and once again sued), weight loss pills( sued) , diets( sue) and she claimed this is how she became all hourglass. So yes she set so many unrealistic standards by prompt and profiting off these products
@@Same1689hfrh I think ppl are stupid for even believing a waist trainer could do that.. we are all just a bunch of sheep that want to fit in then blame others when things don’t work out the way they want.. if she cut her leg off I’m sure there will be a few that would do the same
also they're rich! they can hire personal trainers, nutritionists, they have gyms at home, they spend thousands of dollars on treatments to get rid of cellulite and stretch marks and still refuse to admit they set a standard of beauty! they love the money that comes with being these public figures who can make people buy their products but don't want the responsibility that comes with said power, it's truly upsetting to me.
They want to keep their secrets I guess, but we know it ain't one lol. The details of everything they've had done would be interesting to read. Like a wholeee book 📖
100% agree. That pissed me off a bit when Kim said that they worked for their bodies, like ok - but the fact that you have the time, money, and help to take care of your body like that is not the norm for most people. Stop acting like all of us can do the same too - plastic surgeries aside!
TRUE
Agree
This family is the worst thing that happened to our society and impressionable girls.
I'm telling you!!!! Smh.
Yes!!!!
There will always be bad influences in the media, including the Kardashians. The onus is on the parents/guardians to raise kids well and teach them priorities and principles.
No. People need to stop being so easily led or influenced. Idols always existed.
@@iboopyournose7307 yeah but it’s not anyone else’s responsibility apart from their own.
Kim’s comment is so insulting, their job is to look beautiful. The average person works 9-5+ and can’t workout three times a day, most people can’t work out even once a day! That’s regardless of plastic surgeries which yes promotes an unattainable standard!
My thoughts exactly
Yep..but she's far out in Delusia so..
I work 9 to 9 with a child and still find the time to work out. If you want something bad enough you’ll find the time.
exactly.
@@uhhggg9335 you workout 3 times a day?
omg kendall’s face when khloe “admitted” to her cosmetic procedures😂😂
I was waiting for someone to say this😂
When Khloe was saying she's had only one surgery, Kendall's face was like 'yh... sure😑'
@@ajpristine4809 i think she was scared they were gonna ask her the same question
She looked afraid
@@szadalat 😂😂😂
Khloe would be way more relatable and regain the easygoing, unstudied vibe that made us all like her more, if she just admitted to all she's done. Especially because IMO she doesn't look all that good. The distance between her nose an upper lip is off, even though they tried ti correct it with a lip lift to high heavens. I think Lorry is being very generous with Khloe here. I mean poor Khloe if she feels she needs all that to be accepted... but that is not a normal face :/
It’s so funny that all these celebrities and influencers always use the “love yourself the way you are” motto when they are living proof of how uncomfortable they feel on their own skin, such hypocrites
I think Kris's surgery looks better than all of them for a woman of her age. She looks like she hasn't aged and looks very natural.
Because she started so much later in life and focused on maintenance, not setting trends. I think Kris has an overall healthier body image than her daughters. You can see each daughter is more insecure than the one born before. Kendall only escaped because she idealized being a model but even then she’s had a significant amount of work done for someone in her mid twenties, even compared to other models.
To be honest, she's the only one that looks the same as the first Kardashian-episode aired. Most people her age look like badly-wrapped Christmas presents because they do too much or don't care about maintenance.
Kris, in my opinion, looks great. She still has mobility on her entire face, she's able to squint, smile and show teeth, walk normally... yes she's surgically enhanced, but she looks great.
@@edwinjlr1345 That’s exactly what I noticed about Kris in the reunion episodes. And, Kourtney looks quite natural and softly enhanced.
Yep
@@Ineverusemychannel but you can see how horrible the former husband looks
This hill has eyes: Lory’s almost never wrong in her analyses
Haha love !
I wonder what they’re gonna do when the skinny girl era comes back
As a skinny girl I will be happy.
Doesn’t Kendall still fall into that? I don’t want the pro Ana/heroine chic/ low rise jean era to come back...but that’s just my bias after recovering from trauma dealing with anorexia for so many years.
I thought about that too.
On the one hand I want skinny era to come back because I'm skinny and right now I'm very insecure of that fact, but on the other hand I don't want people to suffer from eds and lose weight in an unhealthy way... So I just hope that people would stop making body types "trendy" and they will be accepting of everyone
@@zthetajulietta8184 oh well! Plenty of naturally skinny women want it back. How about we love all bodies?!
Kylie is too young to be looking the way she does. It’s sad, really.
Yes
Exactly. She doesn’t look bad, but she also doesn’t look like a girl in her early 20s. She has some really nice soft features that she ruins with the excessive ps.
It's even sadder that you can't tell that her baby belongs to her. It literally looks as if she adopted Stormi.
I hate to type this but Kylie had a genetically bad start! She would have looked even older, if she didn't get these procedures done. Her facial type was just too prone to deep nasolabial folds and some sagging in the cheek area.
@@sw-hg8eq she would have looked even older at 24? Ah I don’t know about that.
It was comical listening to Khloe talk about what she’s gotten done.
Also Lorry can you please do a video on zendaya and Eiza Gonzalez? Love your channel!
Zendayas had something done to her chin. It used to be long and pointy and now is short. Also her cheeks seem to sit higher on her face (midface lift?) and her upper eyelids don't look as heavy as they used to.
Yes, Eiza!
Yes Eiza!
Eiza Gonzalez good one ☝️
LMFAOOOOO NOT COMICAL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"We work hard...to make money to pay for all the surgery we get done."
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Your definition for unattainable body standards is spot on. I’d add that if you have to photoshop your surgical alterations, then it is LITERALLY unattainable!
Your channel is such a gem. I’m so glad you decided to join RUclips!
Great point !
Yesssss
Kim's comments about unattainability is irresponsible. While they may exercise, they still got a lot of help from plastic surgery and the money that goes along with it. What's sad is.... all these women look exactly the same now. Not just this family, but every woman who has the money to get these surgeries. They all look like the same plastic doll. When I watch movies from the 80s, I think, "wow this is when women were all natural and had their own unique beauty". Now, all these women look like they're related or made in the same factory. The fact is, in my opinion, they are insecure in who they really are so they have to change the outside constantly to try and make themselves feel better. Hopefully they can finally accept themselves physically and work on the interior. I feel like they could have so much more to offer if they would quit being so superficial.
Big facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Unfortunately they will never love themselves physically and it really is sad especially since soooo many young ppl look up to them. Sad to say they want Afro features ( big butt, darker skin, bigger lips , wide hips)
That whole family lies lol. Is anyone really surprised??
Dandy Fine right they want the physical benefits of being a black woman. But don’t want the issues associated with being black like dealing with racism, discrimination, colorism, smh
I was about to say girl your not that fit because she actually thinks that’s why people are saying their body is unattainable does she not realize many people are waaaaay more fit than her it has NOTHING to do with exercise but it’s all about the shape of their body and how unreal it it!
It stings a little to have Kim be so unaware of all the young girls she consistently hurts with this standard. She really doesn’t care and it’s sad that this is the woman everybody wants to be like when she seems so heartless. They really have perpetuated the beauty over brains culture and it makes me feel worried about my future daughter and the world I might be bringing her into and how she will feel about herself. It’s a sad world.
Amazing comment.. ❤️🎯
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Oh my god i love you
I don’t feel alone anymore
I disagree. Kids/ girls who have encouragement in their ACTUAL personal world regarding their self esteem and self worth don't idolize her that way. I personally don't think the esteem of young girls is the responsibility of total strangers it belongs to the parents. How has Kim hurt any young girls? If anything, those girls parents failed them not this total stranger.
Khloe looks like a different person everyday. She don’t even look like khloe kardashian anymore smh.
And Khloe gets upset when people talk about her ever changing faces that SHE posts. I don't understand it.
Yes I agree shes literally different
Yes and I do not think she looks good at all
She was beautiful before, in her own God given way… all of them were! I’m floored by their ongoing choices to disrupt that.
@@donnaclinton991 this is actually really sad because if you freakout that much just by watching your own unedited pics then it's really a problem. Not saying she's not beautiful now but the beauty she's trying to attain and chase is unattainable. And this goes for her entire family. I just watched some video of hers on RUclips talking about some diet pills and she looked a completely different person from this. She must've shaved her chin like lory said during this past 2 or 3 months cause she had a different lips and different face 3 months ago. And I don't understand why and how we as a society consider this women or any other celebs the beauty standards when they probably get more treatment in one finger than we all do in our entire life. They live in a completely different dimension from us honestly. No matter how much relatable we consider them to be at the end of the day they are gazillion years away from reality and how the average person lives 🤷🏾♀️
Just because the unattainable body standard went from super skinny waif to curvy, doesn't mean curvy is attainable for everyone either. Even though people felt relief when it started to change. It just goes from one extreme to the other.
I wonder what the next beauty standards will be. Maybe muscular bodies?
Yes and I know lots of women who have natural curvy structures but they just look like Kim used to! Just human lol You will never find a woman looking like they do in the nature
@@alvernawiley8688 it’s going to be thin again 😒
Whatever trend will be chosen it will be hardly attainable i.e. you will need to be displeased with yourself and continually buy things to try and achieve the ideal. It’s all just business anyway. And money needs to be made.
@@Selenite11 I believe we wont have such strict trends anymore. You can see different trends sometimes even opposites coexisting on social media. You can see people like Kim but also find fat woman saying they are proud of their body. Some trends exist for both like big eyelashes but other doesnt.
I grew up in neighborhood that was mostly Armenian. I thought all of the women were absolutely gorgeous!! Kim Kardashian looked like Jasmine from Aladdin back in the day, she had a natural Armenian beauty and now it looks like the entire family erased it… 😑
her childhood photos are stunning. she would have aged so beautifully, but as soon as she started getting surgery, it threw off her faces natural balance.
I’m just going to wake up, work out and change my straight shapeless body to an exaggerated hourglass guys! See y’all at the gym! 😂 💪
Bahaha
Khloe said it's just squats. Some how they only affect her glutes and leave her leg muscles super skinny.
@@cryforthemoon😂😂
Black women all over the world have that body type. I grew up seeing that as the norm and far from unattainable. It can be difficult to maintain with pregnancy and age, but it's not magical. I don't think the question should be asked without acknowledging ethnic traits.
For years black women were kept out of ballet because their bodies weren't the standard for where that dance form originated regardless of how well they performed. There are many elephants in the room when talking about beauty standards, especially where this crew is concerned.
@@Eff_It I agree with you. As a latinx woman, I naturally have an hourglass figure with a full bust and booty. The difference is my body doesn’t look perfect like theirs because I didn’t have plastic surgery to fine tune it into perfection.
I think Kylie has cheek implants that are extremely large, if you pause this video at 9:55 you will see that from a 3/4 angle, it almost looks like she has no eye socket -- that implant makes a huuuge curve way high up on her face, which doesn't seem very natural. I wonder how much more work she will have done, since she's already changed so drastically. Overall, I'm really glad we got to see them in live video with Andy, where their own production/filters weren't making them look as airbrushed as usual. It's really important to be able to see them without photoshop/face-altering filters, because dermatologists and surgeons get ppl coming in all the time asking for procedures that simply don't produce what a filter does!
Her filler spread
When Kylie first got work done she was really cute and I wish she would have stopped there. Now she looks so bloated in the face it looks really stupid.
@@winterbonnie7859 it's not filler, it's cheek implants. Filler doesn't look that defined and "hard" and it would also be imposiible to put that much in and for it to stay like this. When filler migrates you loose definition and it also doesn't spread like wildfire, how some irresponsible people spread on the internet, insert dr youn, and they also take a longer time, so yeah
I feel like I'm the only one that cannot imagine anyone ever putting any kind of face implant to parts of their face.
Ikr I was like what else did she do
Kylie’s cheek implants working harder than car airbags.
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I just feel like the celebrities whos (hapy eye fixd the tawk text eror professor Switzer? Iz ths beter four u?) looks have changed so drastically insult our intelligence by denying cosmetic procedures.
Exactly plus I feel like it’d be easier to just admit you’ve had work done because that would shut people up. Or maybe all the speculation means publicity too idk
@@Nicole-rj4xz ya it’s so wild to me.
lol and then their fans try to say it's puberty when they're like in their 20's or 30's
.......the celebrities WHOSE (not WHO'S) looks have changed......
WHO'S = WHO IS
It’s pure insecurity which is sad because we idolize someone who doesn’t even like themselves so why do we !
What Kim should have said is: "We get up we do the work, we work out, we have the best surgeons, the best filters, the best fillers."
Lol
Why does she need to say that tho?
I will never in my entire life understand how this family is not 100% cancelled.
The fact that you have a whole playlist for this family is already sad and says a lot about their mental health too. I am not against plastic surgery, but this many potentially life-threatening procedures at such young age are questionable, to say the least.
For REALS though!!!! I don't know how people idolize them so much. It doesn't take much to see that they are probably not in the best mental shape.
Agreed
It's also a SMART business decision. Their brand is beauty, so they must live up to their own hype. The surgeries have made them ultra wealthy.
I think this family needs to seek a therapist more than a plastic surgeon lol
@@mave143 that and because they are insecure. I wouldn’t ever do this but if I had a family like that I would be too. Shaming each other like that.
It really angered me when Kim defended their influence over the new “beauty standard”. I honestly don’t see the point in not coming clean at this point. She is moving on to a career in law (which values intellect over appearance), and finally admitting that they had a lot of cosmetic work won’t take away from the legacy they created from their show. This was the PERFECT opportunity for them to be raw and transparent, and they totally blew it (in my opinion, of course).
Lol she's failed her law exam 3 times.
@@liawatson5789 fr? That's so sad. Failing one time sucks, but three?? 😖😖
@@liawatson5789 but let's not ignore the fact that statistically most people who take it fail it at least twice. Just saying.
THISSS. 🙌🏼 it’s what I’ve been saying, they blew their chance to just be honest about it. They would have looked so good just admitting to it after all these years, I’d respect that kind of honesty tbh
@luna your point??? Which of them did you pass and what was your score?
i loved when you reminded everyone that that not everybody has the money, time, and pain tolerance for plastic surgery. i’ll add one more to that: HEALTH!!! people who have disabilities and chronic illnesses are also oft excluded from being able to get cosmetic surgery because they can’t rely on their bodies to heal from those procedures. the kardashians are sitting on a bed of unimaginable privilege compared to the average person :(
Kylie had a lot of work done, now she doesn't look related to Kendall anymore.
And her fans still believe she only had lip fillers 💀
🤣 poor them
@Mami Makala I’ll admit I love her lip kits lol
@@re3171 😆😆😆
Exactly she looks just like her father kaitlyn
Kourtney looks Natural. Her body and beauty in general is actually attainable. I can honestly believe that it’s because of her lifestyle (workout and diet). She looks good for her age.
That jaw line is way too snatched for her to not have had at least a facelift
She's had breast implants and maybe some lipo
@@Kimber123 dang chil out kimber lmao
@@Kimber123 she’s always been honest about the boob job though 🤷🏼♀️ been talking about it since the beginning of KUWTK
@@jmaldo92 and Botox to forehead or brow area, her brows are much higher then before
Kourtney is the most beautiful of the bunch... I like that she’s maintained a (mostly) natural look.
I think their beauty standard is unattainable for the average person because the majority do not have access to personal chefs, dietitians, top personal trainers, and/or nannies to watch their kids while they focus on keeping themselves looking young and refreshed.
With respect, I am a disabled working single parent and I eat and cook healthy food and kids are a workout. I took them to the park everyday. Walked the school run. I think the thousands spent on surgery and injections, make up artists and tailored clothes is what’s prohibitive.
@@patsysadowski1546 Not all people are capable of doing the things you describe. I think, overall, the Kardashian's are just too privileged to have any comprehension of what's normal and attainable to normal people
I am a seamstress and costume maker and I do a lot of measuring and sizing of people. Most women, (not all) are shaped with ample assets in either the butt/hip area, or the breast area, it is very, very rare to be blessed equally in both. Some have no curves in any area and are all angles and lines. The point is, I have only seen a body like the Kardashians on one woman and she was completely unaware of it, which made her even more amazing!! I also agree, Khloe looks really good in this video and I hope she knows that and is happy.
Wow ; thank you so much for your unique perspective; yes I completely agree; it’s pretty rare .
Just love how Kourtney kept true to herself and did her interventions softly. Gorgeous!
How could Kim say that in all seriousness? She has an interview with Vouge I believe and she says something along the lines off "that was a great look, I should bring that back to fashion." so there she does acknowledge that she is in fact a trend setter. This time it just didn't fit her narrative. Its undeniable that without the Kar-Jenners being in the spot light for so long half these surgeries that are so popular now wouldn't be without their influence. There is literally a "Kylie Jenner bundle" at some plastic surgeons offices. Not to mention that entire part of 2015 where young teens where literally having the blood vessels in their lips pop out and being sent to the ER - sometimes for irreversible damage over the "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge" for trying to obtain Kylies new pout that she so very recklessly lied about how she attained that!! For her to say what she said, as well as what Kendell said is so irresponsible. Now women are going to believe that this is all obtained through the gym and kill themselves in the gym trying to achieve a body that is simply unattainable w/o surgical and non surgical enhancements. What she said is just simply untrue and that's a shame because if there ever was a time to come clean about it - that would've been the time to do so.
She either thinks that the general public is so stupid that it's not plainly obvious what they have done to themselves or she is delusional. If they were honest about what they had done it would be far more respectable.
Tbh who tf would believe that those were achieved through working out??? FFS she doesn't look human, she looks like that pokemon character... Besides Kourt and Kendall. Its the body dysmorphia for me.
Some people really do work at getting as toned as possible after baby, but I have 3 obgyn’s in my family and they all attest that stomachs like that…IMPOSSIBLE.
@@ellaocean :They look like they come from Bugs life cartoon.
I think she truely believes this is all her own work. You know those rich millionaire heirs that think they are it and better with their heired money and everyone eles are pesants.
I think this is the first time I’ve ever commented on a RUclips video but I just had to say, thank you so much!!! The way you go about breaking this down is so eloquent, genuine, and honest without being overly judgemental. This is interesting and important stuff for people to know the truth about and you’ve gone about critiquing their actions in a way that doesn’t degrade them or others who have chosen to get plastic surgery. Love it!
Wow thank you so much; what a lovely comment 💕
You created this channel just in the right moment for everybody. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into every single analysis you make. We really appreciate all your work.
Aww thanks; that’s good to hear 🌸
You’ve really opened my mind to plastic surgery. I always used to think plastic surgery was bad and stuff but you’ve really taught me about it and made my mind expand more
I worked in medical and plastics do humanitarian work too. It is not always paid for, and it's certainly not glamourous like BH plastics. So I feel if someone can't close their mouth because of their born with features? Please help! I don't think a good surgeon should excuse mental illness. As in not getting therapy for the deep down issue, $200,000 in.
Popular opinion: Kylie only looks good in the pics that she posts, not in video or irl
Exactly that's what I was thinking too she looks nothing like her pictures
Yep because they are edited SO much
Facts
She is kind of frightening
Facts
It’s amazing how many procedures Kim has had that she’s going full circle and starting to look more like how she did in the beginning. It’s almost like she’s at a point where she’s having procedures done to reverse work she’s had done and regretted it
as soon as she started getting surgery it threw off the balance of her naturally beautiful face, and had to keep getting surgery to fix it
Nobody's face is moving in the whole reunion 🤣 They look completely ridiculous. They're all starting to look like Muppets.
Its funny how Kim says that shes not promoting an unattainable standard of beauty when because of her, her own sisters have changed their face to assimilate to her plastic surgery self. I mean the fact that Khloe went to the extreme of shaving her jaw..i mean im assuming thats a big surgery 🥴 and now guess who her jaw and chin looks like? The same jaw and chin Kim has....the same goes for the other sisters they all look like Kim now. When before plastic surgery they all looked different....not to mention they all dont even share the same father so they looked very different from eachother to begin with. Now imagine what this does to the rest of the population that actually believe they are natural if her sisters were affected knowing it was not natural and just plastic surgery and fillers.
Not to mention the body surgeries aswell
No need for face recognition on their phones 🤣
Yep and they are all getting the big fake asses like her too. Except Kourtney.
Look what they do. Not what they say
kylie actually said she always wanted to look like kim. kris must be a colossal egoist she pushed them to it
I love your videos. Like you're not putting anybody down, but you are also making people feel good, who can't get plastic surgery and have gigantic insecurities because of it.
They all influence each other. Kim had the strongest hold as she was the one who made them rich, no matter what Kourtney says in regards to her 2005 reality show. Kim got stuff done, and then the other two followed suit with varying results. After that, Khloe started influencing Kylie with her own insecurities and lip filler for days. Kendall, who everyone claims is the prettiest and above it all, also got everything but her knees done. If she were shorter, I imagine she'd be a lot curvier than she is now based on how defined her silhouette got through the years (because of her surgeries).
People can pin the blame on those who said mean stuff about their appearance back in the day when it was super ok, but you'd be making them a disservice by painting them as poor and helpless women who just HAD to get massive hips and behinds. Plus, they had the chance to teach their younger step sisters better. To tell them that it is okay to not have the curves of a bikini model or the lips of a duck. They clearly didn't, though. One good look at kylie and Kendall, and you can tell they did not get the support they might have needed when it came to their appearance and self-esteem.
You do you and all that, but there are times where plastic surgery does have a deeper meaning. One that cannot be ignored. Kylie was 18 or so when she got stuff done! Maybe she was a late bloomer! but now we will never know because she just couldn't wait until she was physically done developing (women usually take longer than men to finish)
Sorry for the essay.
I agree with you and the phrase "got everything but her knees done" made me laugh out loud!! 🤣🤣
I agree that they have their insecurities, everybody have it. But I think they get some procedure by impulsivity. A lot of people on social media say that they would get surgery if they had money. In the case of this family they can have anything they want any time they want. Its like they edit a smaller nose on a photo and the next day they can get a nosejob to look like the photo.
Well said!
@World of my Hellcat Ants yah. My bad! It was a mistake
Kim’s tan is disturbing. Also khloe looks like she can’t move one side of her face. Kourtney and kris looked great💗
The left side? With her lips that won’t separate l? I noticed that too, scary stuff
Thank you for your research and service to the real world community. I've been a makeup artist and Esthetician for 20 years. It's hard keeping up with the Kardashians in the real world. I have to explain to my clients just how much makeup they need to have on just to half way look like the images they bring me of these women they use as their inspiration pics. Then you revealed the filters that they use for just each individual body part . Omg! I have to encourage my clients to look like themselves and trust in me to make them feel their absolute best with what they have on their own.
Keep up the good work 👏 bless your heart ❤
Yes they are making unattainable beauty standards....
are those "beauty" standards though??? or a "wanna-be-a-second-rate beverly hills freak" standard?
@@im-pn3ug they ain't my standards 🤷🏽♀️
don't allow them to set beauty standards then....? they might be for the majority of people but that doesn't mean you have to allow them to be yours as well.
I think it’s so crazy how people are praising Kylie for talking about her lip fillers as if she hadn’t said it a while back
She had been open about them for a while, too. I remember it being big news that she admitted to not getting her lips filled as much as she used to a few years back.
Remember when she got her lips done first and she was like what guys it’s just lip liner 💀
@@Nicole-rj4xz “i use like six different colors 🥺”
@@emmacaden1260
‘I just over line them 🥺’
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@@Nicole-rj4xz no word of a lie that's why I stopped watching that shitty ass show. Don't lie to me as if I'm an idiot.
I appreciate how you remain graceful yet so honest. It's beautiful energy, and it's so needed because you show that transparency doesn't have to mean shame. For Kim to say that they achieve their bodies from simply working out is irresponsible. When millions of people follow you, you have to do better. Love your work queen!
Kim was SO beautiful to begin with though, all she ever needed is maintenance. (IMO)
I agree
i agree. don't get me wrong she looks gorgeous here - but i love her original armenian features. very exotic and eye catching. her face is less striking now.
She ruined her face. She looked beautiful the way she was.
AGREE she had such a beautiful Middle Eastern beauty and she's still extremely gorgeous.
@@jjasmineluv she took away most of what made her look middle eastern and that is a shame.
i always beat myself up over the body standard women have... it’s just impossible as someone who is already naturally thin (not curvy) and who works out. people being different is way more beautiful than this copy and paste beauty standard. love your approach to this video as always! love u lorry
Love to you ❤️
I truly don't believe that most people hold women to the standard that the KardJenners have set. Maybe this is a standard if you're a beauty influenser because you'd be competing with other beauty influensers, but theirs isn't a standard that regular people are held up to.
Don’t worry, soon curvy bodies will be out and your natural thin body type will be in. Then the curvy girls are going to start being insecure and starving themselves again. Endless cycle, women bodies should not be trends
Why are people surprised at Kim's answer?. Obviously she had to say their beauty standards are attainable or else people will stop buying their products and save up that money for botox and fillers.
I just felt that Kim was SO defensive in this interview (it didn’t feel natural for anyone, felt like they all fought before the cameras were rolling) and this was a topic Kim was ready to fight. She really does believe they all worked for the final look, but it’s really a combination of surgery, exercise, diet, and lifestyle choices.
Omg the soft “bye” at the end from the little boy at the end of your video, so cute! 🤍🤍
That was the most damaging answer Kim could have given. By saying they put in the work regarding their looks she puts the responsibility on all the young girls out there who look up to them. You’re essentially tellin them if they aren’t “beautiful” or “attractive” enough it’s their fault. Which is bullshit anyway because LOOKS FADE!!!
She’s always damaging. But what she said was a complete LIE anyway. She never mentioned the fact that she has surgically altered both her face and her body DOZENS of times!!!
wow kim looks really good in this :O. i mean im glad that i know how much goes into this otherwise id be insecure af
Kim did the best thing by getting a face lift her cheeks are not inflated like Kylie’s
@Divaa Purswani
In a previous video Lorry speculated that Kylie had cheek implants because of the shape and angle, its too much in my opinion they look bizarre, face lift looks better imo
@@Nicole-rj4xz Her cheeks are a little chipmunk-esque.
@@kellymcphaul2793 yeah because of that forward projection, whereas Kim’s are more prominent on the sides.
@@Nicole-rj4xz Cheekbone implants hardly ever sit right, and they also destroy the bone under them.
@@Nicole-rj4xz she's had both. Implants and filler plus she carries a lot of weight in her face. She needs to get her cheeks filler dissolved and go the kim route.
I respectfully disagree. I think Khloe looks scary and obviously overdone.
I feel the same. I was surprised Lorry said she looked good. Khloe, while not as bad as Kylie, looks horrible.
Yes! Her mouth doesn’t move naturally at all when she speaks or smiles. I was reminded of Michael Jackson when I watched her. She’s gone way too far with the facial surgery and piling the makeup on top.
I think the jaw shaving was beneficial though, it’s given her a much more contoured/slim look that she didn’t have before
I feel like by saying she “worked for it”she means she earned the money to pay for it and maintain it
Great analysis as always .... i found Kim's comment about working out really disappointing. It is UNREALISTIC because it was attained through surgery!
You are the queen if fairness and diplomacy.
When you explained why MAYBE Kim thinks she actually got that body by simply working out is a very good explanation.
Chances are despite knowing she’s had procedures she’s also keenly aware of how hard she works to keep it up, so in her mind it’s from her effort…because that’s the daily process, a surgery faded away in your memory but your every day practice sits in the forefront of your mind.
Interesting analysis as always!
Thank you!
Thank you ; it’s insane because that answer came to me out of the blue while I was trying to explain it ; where most of my stuff is scripted before hand.
@@LorryHill very emotionally intelligent 🙏🏻
I love you for being honest about your work and having your complete priorities straight with the effects of unattainable body norms
Thank you 😊
Kourtney is the most beautiful.. and thats probably cause she’s the most natural
She does a lot of injectables
@@kerstenl2028 I didn’t say she was natural I said she was the most natural
@@kerstenl2028 injections and plastic surgery are two different things. I think we should destigmatize Botox cause all it does is smooth skin whereas plastic surgery actually changes your whole damn face
Would love to see a Friends reunion analysis of plastic surgery!
I was noticing that Jen, Courtney, and David have definitely had work done, not so sure about Lisa and Matthew, and Matt seems the most natural imo! What did you think?
Yes!!
Yes, please!!
I can’t believe I was delusional enough to believe I believed their bodies were real until I was like 21 (in like 2018) and I saw that infamous pic of klohe pushing around a stroller after pregnancy. Her butt was sooooo large, that’s when it clicked.
Don’t feel some type of way, at least you escaped that mindset! There’s still people supporting these women with their corsets / makeup.
I honestly can’t stand that whole family and glad the show is finally ending but I’m watching this video because I love your analysis!
Kylie looks straight up awful... she doesn’t even look related to Kendall anymore. I’m older than her and look younger than her. It’s sad she’s so insecure imagine what she’ll project on to her black daughter smh
*biracial
@@munderaruwa5990 ***BLACK. like I said bc she will be identified a BLACK woman for the rest of her life no matter what she’s mixed with.
@@ashlixoxo she's still biracial.
@@skurinski But still she looks black
@@ashlixoxo she’s biracial. You can’t ignore half of her background. What kylies doing would impact any child it doesn’t matter what colour they are.
I am getting an education right now!! 😂😂 This is unbelievable, thanks for sharing. I’m loving your content
Thank you !
Only Kourtney looks human and decent.
@@AlexandertheGreat99 Kourtney was the first to have plastic surgery. She had her boobs done when she was 19. She's also had her nose done, Botox too.
@@gregoryholstein4224 i believe she has the least amount of surgery
@@gilazz She has had the least amount of surgery, but she does get injectables
Yep. Kourtney is still easily recognizable in relation to the way she’s always looked. What she’s had done has been very tasteful and fairly natural looking. She has lightly enhanced, and then maintained. Next, I’d say Kendall, but her procedures are starting to catch up to her, in the sense that she is beginning looking less and less like herself.
Now, Kylie is at the other end of the spectrum. She literally looks like an entirely different being. Not recognizable AT ALL compared to her original form. Every single part of her physical being looks fake/plastic. And it has aged her by decades in the process. In all honesty, it’s horribly sad to be soooo insecure that you don’t even want to be recognizable as you, but to look like a clone of your half sister. I’m really not trying to come across as superior, or jealous. If I had the money, you better believe I’d be getting half a dozen procedures performed on myself. But not to that extreme. I would still want someone who hadn’t seen me in a few years to be able to still recognize me as me.
@@AlexandertheGreat99 Kendall looks super plastic now IMO. Look at that turned up nose, she didn't need to go there. Plus the huge lips, Hugh cheeks and slanted eyes. Natural my a$$.
Kris Jenner has modelled how to use surgery as you age while maintaining your beauty features. She still has that combination that is Kris. Kourtney and Kendall seem to be following her lead whereas the other girls seem to want to change features all together.
They’re all fake plastic
I really appreciate your content. It gives me an insight into the lengths celebrities go to for aesthetics.
The KarJenners think we’re fools 😭
Honestly, I have a similar body shape and it is extremely hard to maintain as I get older. Hips depend on your bone structure and the muscle surrounding them is hard to build. The quickest way to make them look more obvious is lipo to the stomach bc exercise can only but shrink your stomach so much
My diets are getting more strict and I'm losing muscle naturally with age so stuff doesn't stay as sculpted for as long. Hormones play a lot into my disappearing small waist and chest size. You can't be that curvy without fat, but you can't strategically place the fat either unless you do so surgically so yes....they are absolutely promoting unattainable body standards.
These chicks look scrawny with silicone
I also have a similar body shape (way back when, I was asked if my butt was real), but the Kards thigh to butt ratio is not normal. It's just that our wyes have kind fo gotten used to it.
Yeah cause how do they have no tummies/thighs but still have a fat butt? Also they accredit their butts to working out, but a workout ass does not look like that 😅 like huh
@@jmaldo92 gee thanks jerk, I look very similar
@@Divinefeminine1821 🤷🏽♀️✌🏽
Please do bella poarch! she’s had a few rhinoplastys, done her eyes, lightened her skin. You can see how dramatically different she looks compared to her younger photos.
I was really hoping to hear from you about this.
I wish all celebrities had lorrys energy and told everyone what they have done. Nice job Lorry your the real MVP
I cracked up when Khloe told Andy YOU KNOW TRISTAN &.I ARE NOT PERFECT
This is truly one of the best channels I found on RUclips!
Thank you ❤️
I can't stand liars.
But I've come to the conclusion that we simply will most likely never get the honesty and transparency we hoped for from that family.
They live in another world that the MAJORITY of us do not.
At the end of the day, WE know the truth. We know they've had plastic surgery and tons of different procedures. So, it's up to us to change the standard by debunking their lies and making sure our youth stop believing in these people who blatantly LIE.
It's like they want us to believe that they're perfect.
They’re selfish and materialistic.
This!!!!
Amen!!!
This channel is positively fascinating just for the sake of seeing all of the many things someone can have done. It’s mind blowing. It’s amazing what money can buy!
I definetly agree with the kardashian body type being the least atteinable. while the heroin chic look of the 90s and 00s was extremely unhealthy, it was almost democratic in the way it was obtainable. but now we are back to the kind of beauty standards we last saw in the 80s with supermodels, but squared. maybe the next decade will bring reprieve from this.
100% agree! Back then if you were that thin you weren’t expected to have breasts and an ass.
Agreed. But you mean "democratic" in the sense that anybody can starve themselves? Oh, what a world we live in. Love your body!
I don’t necessarily agree. I’m not defending the standard today, but I think it has allowed for some appreciation of fuller/bigger body types. As a curvier woman (albeit with a belly) I feel more appreciated now than in the size 0 days.
I still prefer today's tbh ... it was hard not end up anorexic or bulimic growing up in the early 2000's lol really 😅.. now i just feel thin and great when I see these thick kardashians look alike in social media, that would've never happened 15 years ago.
I however prefer the trend of very fit models, you can see their muscles, you can tell they work out, but there is no ridiculously huge butts and breasts and they look amazing imo. And the best part... it is attainable with mostly dedication and hard work without starving yourself.
@@kathamaran6184 not saying it was better. But getting tons of plastic surgery to look this way is deeply unhealthy and dangerous to the body. as well as anorexia and bulimia back then.