Hi Steve, thanks for the comment. I had little niggling back problems before putting the sim in. Hitting off the mat sitting on concrete made those niggles turn into very uncomfortable discomfort. If I play off grass my back is fine. I'm sure you will be fine with no history of back trouble but if you start to feel anything strange in your lower back... Stop
Thanks for the comment. I'm now looking at a launch monitor you can use outdoors and hit of real turf in the real world rather than the simulation world
Derby based just starting my garage gym / golf sim journey. If you’re nearby I’d be interested in some of your gear. I’m 58 and have to consider concrete floor of garage too. Great channel and content so far. Keep posting even if it’s not sim stuff.
Thanks for the comment. I think I would defo be keeping it if it wasn't for my back issues and would execute a plan of 70/30 course/sim practice. Not very local to you and have a friend interested in most of it 👍
Totally agree. I originally had the Country club elite mat, but it ruined my elbows. I became a picker because of that mat. Just about back to healthy and have gone with an alternative. Swing back to normal.
Gotta try a new mat. I have a Country Club Elite hitting strip and plywood built up and covered in turf for stance that sits on a gel slab. I hit 100-200 balls per day. Also use mevo plus and love the data parameters that I get. First year having a sim I won 5 individual events, compared to the best year prior was 2 wins. Love it, I’ll never go back, but the mat has everything to do with it.
I have enjoyed following your journey to qualification and used your bag mapping tips for my system. I have the truestrike mat, that actually has done the opposite for me. I used to pick the ball off the turf and now I take a divot (most of the time). Best of luck and thanks for all the content/
Mat choice is huge, our pro gives indoor lessons and really don’t like his mat. Have used the Truestrike on several occasions and feels really comfortable to hit off with no pain issues so far. Best of luck to you.
Sad to be old 😂, have shoulder pain too while I play in the garage, certainly not enough for the moment. But great for the winter and 25km golf distance. And alternance with TGC and practice is good too.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to his frustration and what he's saying. But I don't understand, if he's been playing for any length of time, why he didn't understand from the git-go that this is a problem with all golfers in practice situations that involve everything from driving ranges to home simulators. It's always been well known by any amateur I've known to the best pro, that your range practice and simulation doesn't translate well to the actual course. However, I still see them hitting off matts at ranges and on simulators. The reason is this, every shot you take at the range on a mat or using your home simulator on a mat is a perfect lie. You also know you get another ball every time when you mess up. This allows you more relaxed and you don't suffer from the "this is my only shot" syndrome like you do on the actual course. So, the secret is, like he said, that you have to play a lot of golf on an actual course before your game will ever get better.
Thanks for the comment. It was mostly the hitting off the mat aggravating my back which was the straw that broke the camels back. Your right though you need a good mix of outdoor and indoor practice 👍 with the outdoor being way more important
We call what you described when you go from the simulator to the course Simulator syndrome! We have issues hitting off real grass for a few holes!!! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇸❤️
I think you are making a mistake by selling it. Sure you can practice on turf as the opportunity is there now, but you never know what your circumstances will be down the road. I totally agree with you about practicing off turf will always trump SkyTrak, but I guarantee in a few months, years time you wish you hadn’t.
Hi Tim Thanks for your message. I have suffered with my back for the last 4-5 years and as I get older it's more problematic. It actually stopped me playing for 3 months in 2021 and I missed Senior Open Qualifying. Struggle to play 18 holes on back to back days now and on the hard floor on the sim my back starts to niggle after 20 shots or so. Also FOR ME these days hitting off a matt doesn't promote good swing trends.
@@ScratchAt50 That’s no good mate…I have a SkyTrak myself and I understand the feeling that it does not necessarily equate to improvement on the course.
@@ScratchAt50 there are many who would say your back hurts because of flaws in your swing, if anything should hurt from a bad mat it would be your wrists. Now if your back only hurts when hitting off a mat you should look into what you’re doing differently on the mat and real turf. You could be pulling up to avoid hitting the mat too hard which puts extra strain on the back. There’s definitely some subconscious compensations you are making hitting off the mat.
Thanks for your comment. I had back issues effecting how much golf I can play way before I got the golf sim. The firmness of the mat on the concrete floor aggrevates it more and quicker so I have found myself using it less and less.
I think that's a fair comment David. It's great if you cant play outside in the winter for example. A launch monitor that you can use outside on grass gives so much more real world info
Buy the Sig Pro Softy hitting mat from Shop indoor golf and you can keep your simulator. I was having the same issue.
I will take a look, thanks for the comment
watch Tiger Woods vid with Scottie Scheffler on divots......pretty interesting. Tiger says when he's hitting it well he doesn't take divots
I saw that, Scotties face was a picture 🤣
Unfortunately Tigers rules are different to every other mortal being..
I invested in a really good mat, it is about 2 inches thick, and I have not had any back problems !
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment.
I had little niggling back problems before putting the sim in. Hitting off the mat sitting on concrete made those niggles turn into very uncomfortable discomfort.
If I play off grass my back is fine.
I'm sure you will be fine with no history of back trouble but if you start to feel anything strange in your lower back... Stop
You can get matts that mimic taking a divot. They work really well and are not like a solid rubber back, they have a few rubber “legs” instead
Thanks for the comment.
I'm now looking at a launch monitor you can use outdoors and hit of real turf in the real world rather than the simulation world
@@ScratchAt50 mevo plus for sure.
Derby based just starting my garage gym / golf sim journey. If you’re nearby I’d be interested in some of your gear. I’m 58 and have to consider concrete floor of garage too. Great channel and content so far. Keep posting even if it’s not sim stuff.
Thanks for the comment.
I think I would defo be keeping it if it wasn't for my back issues and would execute a plan of 70/30 course/sim practice.
Not very local to you and have a friend interested in most of it 👍
Buy the Sig Pro Softy hitting mat. No pain at all, plenty of cushion, and it replicates the grass
Thanks for the heads up, if I ever think about reinstalling the sim I will consider it
Country club elite mats are very unforgiving for pickers and you have to get your AoA correct otherwise it’s a fat.
Totally agree. I originally had the Country club elite mat, but it ruined my elbows. I became a picker because of that mat. Just about back to healthy and have gone with an alternative. Swing back to normal.
@grilledchimi The hard concrete floor the mat is on is a huge contributor as well as just getting older 🙈
Gotta try a new mat. I have a Country Club Elite hitting strip and plywood built up and covered in turf for stance that sits on a gel slab. I hit 100-200 balls per day. Also use mevo plus and love the data parameters that I get. First year having a sim I won 5 individual events, compared to the best year prior was 2 wins. Love it, I’ll never go back, but the mat has everything to do with it.
That's awesome Kyle.
I'm going to visit the Mevo stand at the golf show next month.
I have enjoyed following your journey to qualification and used your bag mapping tips for my system. I have the truestrike mat, that actually has done the opposite for me. I used to pick the ball off the turf and now I take a divot (most of the time). Best of luck and thanks for all the content/
Your most welcome Mike..
Mat choice is huge, our pro gives indoor lessons and really don’t like his mat. Have used the Truestrike on several occasions and feels really comfortable to hit off with no pain issues so far. Best of luck to you.
The hard concrete floor the mat is on is a huge contributor as well as just getting older 🙈
Sad to be old 😂, have shoulder pain too while I play in the garage, certainly not enough for the moment. But great for the winter and 25km golf distance. And alternance with TGC and practice is good too.
Getting old sucks Seb 🙈
@@ScratchAt50 me too 50 and when I wake up, if I have no pain, it seems I’m dead !!😂😂
I'm somewhat sympathetic to his frustration and what he's saying. But I don't understand, if he's been playing for any length of time, why he didn't understand from the git-go that this is a problem with all golfers in practice situations that involve everything from driving ranges to home simulators. It's always been well known by any amateur I've known to the best pro, that your range practice and simulation doesn't translate well to the actual course. However, I still see them hitting off matts at ranges and on simulators. The reason is this, every shot you take at the range on a mat or using your home simulator on a mat is a perfect lie. You also know you get another ball every time when you mess up. This allows you more relaxed and you don't suffer from the "this is my only shot" syndrome like you do on the actual course. So, the secret is, like he said, that you have to play a lot of golf on an actual course before your game will ever get better.
Thanks for the comment.
It was mostly the hitting off the mat aggravating my back which was the straw that broke the camels back.
Your right though you need a good mix of outdoor and indoor practice 👍 with the outdoor being way more important
Nicklaus caught it clean.
Wish I was Jack Nicklaus 🤣🤣🤣
We call what you described when you go from the simulator to the course Simulator syndrome! We have issues hitting off real grass for a few holes!!!
🐊🏌🦅🇺🇸❤️
It was more like a few rounds for me 🙈
Thanks for the comment
I think you are making a mistake by selling it. Sure you can practice on turf as the opportunity is there now, but you never know what your circumstances will be down the road. I totally agree with you about practicing off turf will always trump SkyTrak, but I guarantee in a few months, years time you wish you hadn’t.
Hi Tim
Thanks for your message.
I have suffered with my back for the last 4-5 years and as I get older it's more problematic.
It actually stopped me playing for 3 months in 2021 and I missed Senior Open Qualifying.
Struggle to play 18 holes on back to back days now and on the hard floor on the sim my back starts to niggle after 20 shots or so.
Also FOR ME these days hitting off a matt doesn't promote good swing trends.
@@ScratchAt50 That’s no good mate…I have a SkyTrak myself and I understand the feeling that it does not necessarily equate to improvement on the course.
@@ScratchAt50 there are many who would say your back hurts because of flaws in your swing, if anything should hurt from a bad mat it would be your wrists. Now if your back only hurts when hitting off a mat you should look into what you’re doing differently on the mat and real turf. You could be pulling up to avoid hitting the mat too hard which puts extra strain on the back. There’s definitely some subconscious compensations you are making hitting off the mat.
Thanks for your comment.
I had back issues effecting how much golf I can play way before I got the golf sim. The firmness of the mat on the concrete floor aggrevates it more and quicker so I have found myself using it less and less.
Thank you for sharing
Your most welcome
What size is your room? Looks pretty narrow
All info here 👍
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It’s you unfortunately but to each his own I guess.
Yes thats a part of it for sure Nelson.
Thanks for the comment
what is your asking price and where are you listing your Skytrak?
£1400 with cables and protective case.
Planning to list it at the weekend.
I think for Mid to High Handicap this is a great device for a scratch Golfer not as helpful.
I think that's a fair comment David.
It's great if you cant play outside in the winter for example.
A launch monitor that you can use outside on grass gives so much more real world info
Zwift studio!!
Ha Ha, if i ever get back on the bike it certainly could be for sure..
Very disappointing to hear, but health first!
If your hitting the ball good you shouldnt be taking a divot.
Not true for everyone.
I compress my ball with a shallow divot when I'm playing well 👍