Should secular music be played in churches?
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2024
- There's a fine line between worship in church and wicked worldly behavior.
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Call him out. Wrong is wrong.
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Thank you!
They’re making a mockery of what the church is SUPPOSED to be, and worse - they’re mocking God. He knows what he’s doing. It’s all about money 💰
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Amennnnnnnnn!! God doesn’t need mans help. Were compromising with the devil the work is already done preach the word live the life
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These same people think God is in that church. God left there a long time ago. These black folks only do thieve things in America. I live in Canada we can’t do that in our church or dress like these people. I had a friend who came with her church I think it is called The Church of God and these people were dress like the church of olden days in holiness, but the driver was a short black obese man in shorts and then I heard he was the Pastor. That caught me off guard. Is this Pastor Murphy, if so he has lost a lot barrel of weight, but he ain’t no preacher because he was caught trying to cross over to Canada with a gun. A preacher walking with a gun. Who is he going to “kill”. The bible says thou shall not killed.
"This would not have happened in a mosque."
Word.
Never..
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And never a J synagogue, or any other religious temple.
Only the Christian church compromises its biblical beliefs and sacraments.
Those are false churches, not of God.
Never ever
Note: a woman stated that she chose church over the club for NYE, she went to this service and was disappointed. It means something when someone is wanting to leave the world looking for something new in Jesus but find the very thing they're trying to get away from!
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Exactly! She like I should have just went to the club. 😔
Right and Murphy is gonna be held accountable for this foolishness.
This opens doors to demons. Be careful what doors you open because sometimes they are not so easy to shut.
This does not glorify God in the church or out of the church. God is holy and he does not bring confusion.
Amen
Lies again? Listening to music is porn
Exactly
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. Rev 3:15
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I agree 100%. This is sinful!!
AMEIN!
Amen
The fact we are even asking the question tells me we are Long far gone! Not only is this not acceptable in the church, it is not acceptable period.
Exactly
Last days.
YES!! My thoughts exactly! Smh 🤦🏾♀️
Same thing I was thinking
Right
Without holiness no man can see god
Amen!
God
Amen!
Without Jesus Christ no man can be holy.
Jesus met me where i was, but he didn't stoop down into the mess i was in and joined me. Jesus lifted me up out of the mess i was in, saved me, delivered me and set me free. Jesus is not a chameleon. Charmeleons become who the people are to reach them. That has never been and will never be anything like Christ. After Jesus changed me, my entire life, lifestyle, changed. Secular music along with all other worldly agendas has no place in my life any longer. With Jesus, im not only doing well, im doing swell. I love my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, wouldn't turn back for anything. The world has nothing to offer anyone but the wages of sin, which is death. To God be the Glory, 🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾
Amen
Every music has a spirit behind it, godly music is suppose to be influenced by the Holy Ghost while secular music is not. Light and darkness can never agree. We have enough anointed gospel music for Christians, anything out of God will not do.
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EXACTLY!!!
@miller9627 so do you believe that the 150 souls were actually saved? Yes ✔️ or No X
@@almamiller575 I highly doubt, probably they saw no difference between the service and the parties/clubs they go to. The other day I saw a video from a youtuber saying that the 150 are the ones who responded to a call to join the church and not a call for salvation (if there was any). I actually stopped following this story, am concentrating on building my faith in the Word of God.
They doing to damn much and I just had to reach out to my own church regarding this after my 18 yr old daughter came home from a youth church Christmas pajama party. I was floored with what I saw, kids doing karaoke to secular music and dancing etc….im 42 and I was raised different. It was absolutely just some stuff you didn’t do in church…..cuss, walk in the pulpit, etc…..I was always taught that church was a sanctuary. You respect it and treat it holy! They could’ve did karaoke to Christmas songs or anything but Keisha Cole talking bout she knew once she start kissing she found out…..😳 naw I’m not cool with this. The word tells us to be in the world but not OF the world and we should look different and apart from the worldly and sinful things we see day to day or things that’s provokes, entice, or persuade us to sinful nature. I’m sorry call me old school or whatever but it ain’t right! What we need the church for if it looks like what the world has to offer??? It’s crazy to me for real and just a sign of the times. Y’all better get RIGHT or get LEFT
Amen, even if you were playing secular music driving by the church, we would turn it down. We truly reverenced and feared Go. #holinessIsStillRight
@@Inspirational-Onehello. Preachhh. Same here. I grew up in a sanctified church. U sat in the back is if you was unwed and only went to the bathroom if you had to pee. And do NOT parade your unwed self to give any tithes. U better give them to somebody else to take up there😅I ain't lying.
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I agree with you.
@@Inspirational-One I meant unwed and pregnant 😅
I would have been running 🏃♀️ 🏃🏃♀️ out of that church!! And I would never go back!!
Well, why would they leave when they got what they came for. They knew what they were coming for. Most of them.
Secular music should not be played at church... otherwise what separates us from the world?
Exactly!!!
Even if he was in the field it's still unacceptable
THANK YOU WHAT HAPPEN TO THE WORD ..NO ONES SAYS WHAT THE WORD SAYS.. NOT EVEN THESE DRY PERACHER
I disagree. There's a time and a place for that. The church is a holy place and that music and dance is a hard no!
THANK YOU
@@shaunharris697no there is no time and place for it when you are a Christian trying to lead people towards Christ it shows you have no morals and don’t truly care to share the word of Jesus, it’s all for money
@@shaunharris697 I believe that’s what she was saying
I agree with the lady, the guy.....I knew he was lost when he bragged about being in a fraternity. How can you be a man of God and also part of secret societies?
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Society that ask you to audibly commit your body and soul to the organization for initiation. That “pastor” is far from God.
I was thinking that too. Fraternities are not even of God. It’s a covenant outside of God.
Yeeeeesssss. I like this news guy but he has weirdos as "experts" a lot. They be just as lost as the folks they talking about
Oh stop it.
Pastors want to go viral, That’s the problem. Pastors dealing with the spirit of EGO. How does swag surf glorify God?
Keep the sacred sacred
And what happens to the lost soul who is trying to get right with God and doesn't want secular music in his or her life anymore?
Exactly. Those that a re genuine about being saved are trying to escape the world and know there is nothing in it for them. I left a church 15 years ago when I first got saved because they were playing James brown instrumentals. As a baby Christian I knew it was a mess but how those folks that been saved for years and decades didn't know it
@@thepoweroftheoilofjoythis is what happens when you follow people instead of seeking God.
I remember reading the bible for the first time, and coming to the realization that we were way off the path. It was shocking, and it shook me for a second, but I continued to study the word for myself.
It may seem strange, but the word does teach that there will be a falling away of the church some day. We just so happen to be witnessing it in real time.
Anyways, just my 2cents…✌🏾
The genuines seeking God won't go back there. God know where that genuine soul is. When God saw his prodigal son returning, the Lord left the 99 righteous ones to meet him on his way back to the Lord ❤HalleluYAH
Don't go to that church
@@eddiea2446 acting upon the truth that is revealed is still difficult. Whenever it’s executed, those wins are special, because it’s not what most tend to do. Standing ten toes down, is almost never the easiest thing to do successfully. Honestly I think it’s due to the fear of starting over being a major struggle for a great deal of people.
Anyways, just my 2cents…
NOPE! He’s wrong for that! I can’t believe this is reaching the news stations I hope and pray William Murphy comes to his sense
They Need To Sit Bishop William Murphy Down Or At Least Talk To Him
This is far more than just a “secular music in church” question, this is about the carnal commercialization and absence of moral authority with the black church. This is 2-3 generations worth of being silent when we could’ve led the conversation, supporting public policies that decimated our communities, and becoming the least influential institution in our communities. No accident here - the pole has replaced the cross! 😢😢
Agreed-we are called to be separate from the world
I love how you called the people “church goers” and not saints, Christian’s or the body of Christ because they’re not.
Yep that’s not the body of Christ period
Why didn't Pastor Murphy just play his own music. His old tracks were anointed. I don't understand 🤨
Exactly! I really like his music. I was surprised to see he did this.
There is a difference between getting people in the seats and actually saving souls.
THEY CAN NOT COME UNLESS THE LORD DRAWS THEM
@@thomasclarrett1918 and he’s not drawing them with this worldly trash
@@thisistheendministries2557 YOU GOT THAT RIGHT
That could never be seen in the mosque or temple. Christianity is a joke in this country. No other place you will find clubbing in the church.
All religions are false.
They love defiling God’s Church.
Exactly
No. What is the point of Church then? Secular music is all-around. Why can't Church be for gospel?
Just a few days ago, I was thinking about the benefits of becoming a Muslim. I was hoping the Lord would give me insight. Many things were revealed to me that made me decide not to join the Muslim religion. I even saw a sign where Jesus says he’s the way, the truth, and the light. There is no other way to God.
What struck me was one of the things that was revealed to me is the Christian faith will get smaller and the Muslim faith will grow ALOT in the near future. I mean people will be joining like crazy from so many different places. And the reason why is because there will be so much calamity in the world that the Muslim religion will claim to be the answer to bringing peace to the world. And many people will blindly follow.
I thought about why the Christian faith would diminish and watching the behavior of our church leaders including the behavior of those who claim to be believers makes it seem plausible. Research even shows that there is a great decline of people going to church.
I am not happy to say these things but I am happy that Jesus is returning. I hope I will be ready and I hope you will be too.
Well, praise God you did not become a Muslim. But there’s no decline of people going to church. Going to church doesn’t make a person saved anyway so that doesn’t matter. We actually need less churches, and the ones that are open. Preaching the truth.
What comes to mind on this topic is "PRIDE AND REBELLION."
And the word reads that "rebellion is the same as witchcraft."
Here's some scriptures re: pride
Proverbs 11:2.
Proverbs 16:5.
Proverbs 16:18.
Also, re: rebellion
1 Samuel 15:23.
This is good. Lord have mercy and bring holiness back to church. It all started to change when the altar became a stage and stages are for performances.
This is what the Word means when it says "they have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof"
But Murphy does not even have a form. He’s
Not even trying to be a Christian
It definitely should not!! Straddling the fence you can't serve God and the devil at the same time! But if you wanna walk it out go to the club!! The crazy part is THESE DAYS you can have a more genuine conversation about God at the club BEFORE you can at church because these days churches are about money and worldly things!! God is tired of the blatant disrespect this exactly why this world is in the position that it's in!!
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Amen❤
I strongly agree. I'm tired for the Lord. He has given this planet serious opportunity to correct it's behavior and we just won't do it. This coming year, the devil is going to have a field day.
You're absolutely right!
True
It’s SECULAR! So, you have your answer .. it doesn’t belong in the church. God says my house should be called a house of prayer. There’s nothing to question or debate. The place on that video is not a church. That would never happen under a real pastor in a real church. Says something about everyone who was in attendance during that foolishness.❤
There are plenty of places and times to listen to secular music. Church is reserved for those things that honor God. The goals are sanctification of the saints and redemption of the lost. Come out of the world and be separate, says the LORD.
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@@JesusIsComingSoon316 I would never suggest a believer to listen to secular music. I've found it to have a strong influence on my mind and I don't want to think those thoughts anymore. I agree that we are the church, the body of Christ, who strive to be holy, for God is holy.
There’s never a time to listen to worldly trash. Not for Christians. Navion saved. They’re going to do what they do because they are the world. Remember that song we are the world. Well, they had that title right.
When has the name of Jesus Christ never been enough?
Very embarrassing 🤦♂️ and is just down right a sign of the falling away
Be holy as I am holy. The Sanctuary is the most sacred, if you see how The Temple was protected... HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE
There are way better Gospel Music Artists,Hip Hop and Alternatives respectfully that could be played in Church. 😢
Why'd they have to go back to the negativity instead of forward with real gospel youth of today?
I agree, I love Canton Jones and others.
Yes exactly canton jones, messenja, hulvey, Andy mineo, Tripp Lee and the list continues
NO SUCH THING AS HIP HOP ,IN GODS HOUSE , THAT NOT GOD EITHER
If you need Hip hop that bad then you worship it and not God
@@JesusIsComingSoon316 James Bible
Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him
The Bible says “be ye holy, for I am holy”. In or out the church, God is trying to restore his holy image in all who profess to believe in him, because everything other then that, is sin which brings mental, spiritual, physical and ultimately eternal death.
This church service was a disgrace and the Holy Spirit was not there. This is a prime example of a luke warm, Laodicean church that God is going to spit out of his mouth.
Judgment begins with the house of God. Please people, ask God to help transform you, because your title as Christian will not save you, it is “he who does the will of my father which is in heaven”, and the Father said “Be ye holy”
Beware of false prophets
Why is this even a question? They know it’s wrong and they don’t care. They are not showing who they’ve become but rather who they’ve always been. The most appalling part is, the amount of people following the behavior. God is not mocked and He will deal with folks accordingly especially “leaders”. If one is called to lead and be an example of a responsible and righteous leader, there is no excuse for deliberate sin, disregard, rebellion. This is why we follow God not man and some folks can’t seem to tell the difference. I’m praying for all because even a child would know that the behavior is inappropriate so there’s no excuse nor explanation. Jesus, help!
They turned the church into a night club 🤦🏽♀️
If you want to appease the secular crowds, preach entertainment… If you want to please the Lord God, preach holiness.
In response to the two guest on the show, you should be acting the same way in the world as you do in the church. If something isn’t appropriate in church then it shouldn’t be appropriate outside the church because we are the church. HalleluYAH!
Absolutely not why would you play secular music on a church?
“…that’s how you get people in the seats ..” ok, so now they’re in the seats for the wrong reason. When the party stops then they’re gone …
Great point
Please stop playing with GOD 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Hello no!!!!!!!
The only opinion that should matter in this situation is what the creator says. Our personal opinion doesn’t matter.
The fact that someone is asking this question is just sad. SMH!
This looks like a social organization pretending to be a church.
So, Whether you eat or drink, or whether you do, do everything for the glory of God! 1 Cor 10-31 So, if anything we do doesn't glorify or reflect God then we ought not to do!
I was looking for this comment. It’s easy to fall into dual thinking saying “this is for church and this isn’t”. God is everywhere! His spirit is within us. Everything we watch, think, say, or do should honor God.
One of my favorite scriptures!
@@theartistcherrypi6454 Mine too!
I'm glad she came back around to answer yes. And I Agee we have to be humbled enough to say we made a mistake....but the Scripture also says walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. So I pray for the body of Christ to be in alignment with the Head Lord Jesus Christ and the Word of God imitating after Him in love to Him and each other.
Churches need to stop being desperate. It's a waste of time if the Holy Spirit isn't leading the service. This is not of the Holy Spirit.
It’s a sad day for Believers... Some of these Pastors that called themselves to lead a church are not worthy to lead a blind man across the street!!! SMH.... People better stop playing with GOD!!
I think that Pastor is playing with fire 🔥 and he is going toget burn 🔥!✝️🙏💕
And this is why non believers don’t take us serious. We’re suppose to be holy/set apart. But instead we’re acting like the world smh
These are not churches. These are unbelievers who think they know Jesus but they do not.
WHAT IF JESUS WOULD HAVE RETURNED DURING THIS SERVICE?!?!?!
I've was raised in the black church. I'm 50 yrs old and now refuse to go back. Living and going to church in Atlanta, Georgia simply became a show. Bentley's, Tesla's, Range Rovers, private jets, helicopters, etc. in pastors parking spaces all over the city. I'm convinced that Jesus would have driven a Prius. This makes church look no different from the world. 😢
Let's face it: there are different types of "christians" nowadays. The Bible says do not mix the profane with what is Holy. It also says to render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and unto God, that which is God's. But, people have been allowed to carve out their own definition of a christian, making it align with their personal lifestyle. The point in coming to Christ is to change one's ways; to put away the wordly lifestyle and walk in communion with God. What is the difference between the world and the church? It is God's standard as decribed in the Word, and that standard is - Holiness.
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO !!! Holiness all the way. Lets not confused the babes in Christ.
No, its "church". Respect and honor are due! If folk want secular music they can go to the clubs or play it at home. *"Be In And Not Of The World!"* 🍃 🙏🏾🍃
I can’t think of a more frightening thing than satan roaming around in the midst of a church acting like this! Between Satans evil and Gods wrath, that’s a dangerous place to be.
Lord Jesus! God help us all. 😢😢😢
It shouldn't be in the Church, Christian homes or lives
What's with the artist on stage painting pictures? Just like the club. An artist doing pictures (the club), a DJ playing ratchet music (the club), and people dancing (the club). People, we have a club here.
This is just plain stupidddd
Hell no!!!!!!!!
You can't take the holy Factor out of being saved
There's no room for debate. Any right thinking christian knows there's no place for it.
God is exposing false prophets. This is a church I wouldn’t dare step foot in!! I pray for all of their salvation. That they would come to know the one true living God and repent turn from their wicked ways. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Jesus please come quickly!
NO
SHAMS SHAME SHAME, I pray that his eyes are open. God's message isn't ours butthe Almighty and his word CONDEMS such actions. Stop trying to justify sin, this dishonored God. The blood of the congregation will be on those fake pastors who leads them astray.
Unacceptable. What business does light have with darkness? Except to expose it. Scary. No wonder so many in the world do not respect the church. Repentance must come before judgment does.
They putting all kinds of spirits in that church. Y'all going to have more demons leaving then what you came in with. Them folks need to flee.
I woulda walked straight out too
I listen to gospel rap at work and I enjoy it and gets me through my day.. God dwells within you
The Lord said to me a few years ago, Memphis will have an earthquake most of the damages will be downtown and then He said, Atlanta will be attacked.
William Murphy is the divine judgement upon that congregation. God sends false prophets has a judgment to those who want their ear tickles, May God show His grace and mercy upon them.
Thank you for posting this. It is sad, sad, sad!
Do not conform to the standards of this world. Its really sad to see the Western Churches going this way. We are praying for you all.
There's only one way to get people in the church. Just Preach The Gospel. If you're called. A Real Live MAN OF THE MOST HIGH PREACH THE TRUE AND ONLY GOSPEL.
So. Should they expect this every Sunday? If that type of music is not going to be played then what was the point?
There are so many Christian artists that have Godly music that could have been played! This is truly disappointing and embarrassing to the Kingdom😔
Secular music shouldn't be played in a house of worship because the music has nothing to do with God. Keep God's house HOLY!
He said he likes it but not in the church...can't serve 2 masters Brother
Nope, there is a time and place for everything.. secular songs in church isn't one of them
Most of these people go to clubs more than chuch so if they play that music they will be happy to dance
I would have been LOST - I don’t have any interest in secular music. The words are are ridiculous 😮
Abomination. Absolutely disgraceful and offensive.
This is why im Glad for my pastor apostle Gino Jennings. He is a straight up Holiness preacher and he preaches the Holy word as its meant to be preached. As far as this so called preacher being talked about hes nothing but a hypocrite whos chasing the money. God is not mocked. Truly we are in the last days
This is terrible!! We can't reach the world for Christ doing what the world does!!
Satan is working hard because he knows his time is short. He’s working we need to say AWAKE!
Even if you were in a field and you were there to worship God, playing secular music would be absolutely wrong!!!! The purpose of why you're there would have changed. There should be a clear delineation between what is secular and what is holy! And don't bring that unholy mess into the house of God.
It’s all an issue…Please stop justifying this ungodly behavior…God is not pleased, whether it’s done in or out side the church especially if you are professing Jesus Christ and that intimate relationship
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2 Corinthians 5:17
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
No,no,no this is not right. You cannot justify glorifying Satan in what suppose to be the Lord's house. Emphasis on the suppose!
Mayne if Jesus don't come back soon e'erbody goin' to Hell
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out my mouth! Rev 3:15
If Jesus isn't enough, check *your* teaching of the gospel. Go OUT and bring them in to learn the good news. Don't turn the church into a nightclub to get them there.
#TripleO *Out Of Order*
The word “Holy” means to be separate. God calls us to be separate from the world.
Last days
It's obvious he is picking up where Carlton Pearson left off
That shouldn't be a question 😊
Wow!! This is crazy!!!