First look at the SimWorks Studios Pilatus PC-12 in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- Today we're taking a first look at the SWS / SimWorks Studios Pilatus PC-12 in Microsoft Flight Simulator. We take off from Boonville in California, and fly over to Lampson Field. Wonderful aircraft, great value, and a great first version from SWS!
You can download the startup procedure I have written here:
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You can download the startup procedure I have written here:
ko-fi.com/s/7e93179170
Awesome, thank you! I think the controlwheel lock should not just be removed, but actually be then as a second step/click be STORED on the left "wall" close to the pilot seat. Maybe you can "fix"/update that in your guide.
Never ceases to amaze me how much punishment landing gear can take sometimes. Thanks for the first look and keeping it real, added to my fleet now.
Great job on this. Just a couple things, the cockpit lock flag: unless you replace it in the slot slightly to your left, you are basically holding it the whole flight. To avoid the plane from sliding to the left or right, slightly pull up on the yoke around 70 knots and it will lift off straight at 80 knots.
No defense needed, Jonathan. Working through the controls and seeing what is working (and what not) is exactly what I‘m looking for. Extremely thankful!
Hi Jon. Thank you for keeping your videos honest. The little issue you had with the VOR was great to see cos it shows if something isn’t working then try and work through it. Great for the layman to watch 👍
I love the Kodiak by Simworks studios and this looks just as high quality. I had given up with the Carenado PC-12 due to issues with the autopilot but not having used MSFS in some months couldn't say whether this was fixed or if the plane has had any improvements as of late.
Great video and demostration ... I'll have to check out it.
Lovely video, thank you. I bought it and have it installed but I got distracted and ended up flying their RV-10 instead so I haven't had the pleasure yet. In case nobody has mentioned it, I really appreciate how you balance the sound so we can hear you AND still hear the sim, I'm over creators who turn the sim sound down to about 10% so they're not competing with it and then invite us to listen to the amazing sounds. I generally turn failures off, I'm here to fly not to follow non-normal checklists, so functional checklists are completely fine with me :) Between all these procedures and the new lease of life the VA tours have given my simming it must be time I sent you another kofi !
I'm the same on my channel...John's videos help me a lot in quickly getting up and running in new aircraft. Love his videos
I got it installed too and it flies fantastically. I had the same issue that you did when takeoff. The manual says that you need to apply the right rudder and then slowly ease off and then, as you gain speed, apply a bit of the left rudder. It takes a bit to get used to it and depends on the wind. Thanks,
KFC 325 is perfectly modeled and works like in real life. You have to engage it if you want it to hold your vertical speed.
You must be spending a fortune getting us up to speed in this our recreation, Jon. Really must appreciate you for the effort, mate.
The videos recoup the cost, but yes, we are very grateful.
Great review as always mate!
thanks for the preview, I did notice a significant drop in frame rates flying a 737-600 PMDG, departure from a medium sized airport, not the same performance as it was before the update
Loving this plane!!!
Excellent Jon, thank you for testing ! These reviews/tutorials are very helpful in determining there will be a purchase or not. Very happy to see OH which is Finnish registration :) Now continue watching, leaning toward purchase after 3 minutes into the video
What does OH stand for? As Sweden is SE, i thought Finland must be FI or SU (Suomi)
No idea.
Exciting takeoff and landing. Excellent looking plane with a good price. Carenado will have to lower their price after this release. You're right; the older autopilots all work a little differently. I think the steam gauged planes by Black Square are the best. I don't usually use them but instead use the GTN750 autopilot instead. Great review.
looking forward to a full flight video.
Thanks a lot for this "functional checklist" start up. Not everybody has the time to do all these long tests before starting the plane up. Many of us have very limited time for the sim hobby unfortunatelly.
Could you maybe split the video into chapters? would make it even better for reference. Thanks a lot!
Great Video, may pick it up. Can you use the PMS50 in it? Also for some reason I cant select notifications for your channel.
Great review as always!
I was actually massively disappointed to learn the new Ground Handling isn't coming until next year.
That's one of the biggest things I dislike about the Sim in it's current state.
It’s not even an improvement in ground handling really though, it’s only an improvement in suspension, that won’t fix the real issues of aircraft feeling like they are a third the weight with tyres that feel like they are 50% plastic so the aircraft move around far more than real aircraft do on the ground.
@@WhiteHawk77 I don't specifically know how they have done it as I haven't checked the settings for them, but the the RV-10, and Shorts SD3-30 don't exhibit that kind of sliding about, whereas the SR22T, which I had one flight in the other day, does when decelerating. I just looked over a PC-12 POH, and rotation should be between 73 to 79kts, for flaps 15 and flaps 30 respectively. I think rotation here occured at about 130kts, but the sliding started at around 70. Possibly more up trim would have helped here?
@WhiteHawk77 You're right, actually. Some planes like the Kodiak and Hondajet have great handling. Some like the new Cessna 207 and the default DA62 are awful with GH.
I guess it really does come down to the developer.
Thank you for this video. Do you know if you can use the GTN 750?
Yes you can.
In the real world any GPS that requires a "cold start" will take 12 minutes after it acquires its first satellite assuming that satellite doesn't dip below the horizon in the meantime. 12 minutes is how long the satellite almanac takes to download. Once it has this almanac subsequent "hot starts" will be much quicker as it knows where the satellites should be.
it takes all of about 5 minutes maybe. in the real plane
Knew you would. Hit 'like' before I even watched it. 🤩 Will be getting this just as soon as they've squashed the reflection bug in the cockpit.
Reflection bug ?
There's a gnarly overlay on the PMS GTNs that they're aware of. Looks like the original plastic shielding is on it@@jonbeckett
Yes, see below. It was a deal-breaker for me but fortunately they're aiming to fix it overnight.@@jonbeckett
Update is out and it is fixed now
Maybe it's just me but I've noticed other aircraft seem to be harder to control on the runway during takeoff/landing since the last sim update.
The SWS PC-12 has some strange ground handling behaviours.
Skidding off the runway seems to be very common - I've seen it in a few videos already. Bug maybe? What tracker do you use, btw?
It's sure to be Tobii Eye tracker. He's been on it for a while now.
Tobii
It's also common in real life. I've flown the PC-12 NGX recently and that 1200HP is no joke. Especially when you come out of single engine Cessna's like I did. I was taught the best way to take off is to apply a bit of backpressure on the elevator and a slight right aileron deflection. Then it's much, much easier to keep it straight with the pedals!
Thanks for posting Jonathan. I see the landing gear lever is in the up position on the ground with 3 green lights. Is this a bug?
I didn't notice :)
@@jonbeckett It is late in fairness! :) Thanks again for posting. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
@@jmskelly59probably a weight on wheels system, with the unlocks showing locked, which is three green.
Hey Jonathan after flying the ASOBO TBM 930 since launch i`m actually looking into purchasing either the SWS PC-12 or the Carenado PC-12 which would you recommend?
The SWS is supposed to be better, but they both work fine :)
Hey Jonathan, can you show how you set up your external walkaround camera. for some reason mine stops at the cockpit door
I use the drone camera.
How are the fps compared to the BKS TBM850?
Hi Jonnathan I want your honest opinion, which of the two Carenado and Sim Works Pc12 the community should buy? Have you consider make a video on it? Cuz I have purchased the Carenado and it works fine so I am unsure if the simworks worth it. Kindly awaiting your reply cheers
The SWS is probably more accurate :) I say that because I've never sat in a real one :). Carenado tend to make aircraft more accessible *on purpose*.
@@jonbeckett actually I was in one two weeks ago and I can say that both carenado and simworks have done a great job modelling. Thanks for the feedback
click the headrest to remove the crew.
Is the 5 bladed one the NG or are they both just the old PC12?
They certainly sound different. Not tried them back-to-back to compare performance.
Is this one a better option over the Coronado one ?
Depends if you want realism in the systems, or something more accessible.
The TBM already filled up my hard drive! lol, guess I'll need to uninstall some older planes.
What's this pusher test???✅
Why this drift happen? And on P3D for example is much more stable on take off
about the takeoff > it happened to OKS in a flight with real PC-12 pilot "supervision", too. And the pilot said "you can refine it, and it's a thin line between realistic flight model and easy smooth takeoffs" 😀 ruclips.net/video/qVEmj88qgwA/видео.htmlsi=rKylRrnb8osijqVV&t=3589
Another nice video! Like!
I have the Carenado version on console. Interesting to see how the two compare
It's a night and day difference. Carenado has always built fantastic looking and sounding airplanes, however their flight dynamics have always been less than stellar.
I also have carenado currently I am kind a hesitating to buy this one. Does it worth it? Having the two airplanes?
Debatable.
Failures will be implemented later as a separate plugin
You can tell thats another SWS aircraft, wild horse very difficult to handle, not sure if the real airplanes are like that but its the same story with the Kodiak, you either committed to train and train for hours until you manage them of you'll always suck at handling them, great video Jonathan!
You never mentioned the price
its 25 bucks
Which imho is not a bad thing.The rest of planes fly like toys in the sim.
Guess you've never flown the A2A Comanche 250. It feels like the real thing and nothing about it feels like a toy.@@caribbaviator7058
I never liked the much lauded Kodiak and this also flys and lands very odd- I’m having horrible issue with ap not engaging at all, trim stays red on ap test and I can highlight that button but NOT press it. Also had other odd glitches with throttles not moving etc. which a hard reatart fixed. Any ideas why the AP is totally shot?
Didn't know this aircraft is so broken - have you checked to see if there are any updates to it ?
do you like it better than three carenado?
They are both good.
Do these passengers come with the plane, or are they are separate add on, thank you.
They come with the plane.
Ahh cool thanks.
Better then carenado.
Does anyone know how to enable the GTN750? I have the NXi and I can’t seem to load it.
The manual covers it.
@@jonbeckett yes it does. I select it during the installation but it still doesn’t show up. Have tried multiple reinstalls and nothing. About to submit a support ticket. Thanks for the response.
@@raylemus72They said it's a known bug and that they are going to be releasing a hotfix at some point today to fix it along with another couple issues.
@@JC-xz4ec Thank you so much! I’ll wait for that then. Take care, and kindly thank you for the response. I’ll leave it alone for now.
Having issues with the throttle and other switches not moving in the sim. So the throttle works, but isnt moving. Same with batt 2 switch not moving. Anyone else having a similar issue, and has anyone found a fix?
Having issue with the hole plane ! 🙂
@@mariobader2152 …. I went ahead and purchased it against my better judgement. My thoughts have been that they were late getting it released, and likely pulled failures because they simply were so far behind. It was fairly late in development when they made the “decision” to release without failures, and thats was probably more to do with development schedule than anything. Same with the issues we are seeing. They finally released it after a hard push, but things still havent seemed right. I havent flown it since the first day or so after purchase. Will just wait for awhile
Why no one is building a NGX with Honeywell Avionics?
Why don't you ? :)
Take-off 3/10 Landing 6/10 😅
No this aircraft drifts alot on takeoff and landing, it wasnt your fault. It is just NOT REALISTIC to real world !!!
Yep - it's a bug.
Every landing with this aircraft is involves a slip approach 😂. I really don’t believe it’s like this in the real world.
It’s not just this aircraft, it’s the sim. There are many others that suffer the same problem.
drifting during TO and Landing is horrible in this plane :(
Yep - it's got to be a bug.
The ground is too flat and clean. The rest could fool me.
Another british
-1000 fpm sends it into sink rate fits. Not sure why such a shallow descent rate. Its actually pretty annoying. May be accurate, dont know