This will never be a TED talk...even though its been around since the 8th century and still being used all around the world...and serves as the real foundation of all Western and annotated music...
around 12 years back i and my friend entered our village chapel alone at night and we heard a mysterious music large choirs singing and this sound was coming from the sacristy area of the chapel or from approximately that side . We never understrood what it was but than many years later when i heard the gregorian chant. I realised it was the same similar music but i had no one to discuss with but it was definately a paranormal phenomena and its origins were heavenly im sure of it. it was late night and no one was there around the chapel and the music was soo loud yet so crystal clear. I still dont undertand what it meant
Very interesting, especially the interpretation of the neumes. Never heard themsung before,and interesting how the afford far more expression to the pieces, than the square neumes alone.
Τhe scream/chant of Castrato Alessandro Moreschi tells exactly in every which detail the whole true on going story, Just like the paintings of various masters at the time, including DaVinci's Louvre art works.
It is unfair for Neil McEwan to state that the monks of 1000 years ago could not read. These men were trained in both Latin and Greek, and were the guardians of learning and knowledge during the dark ages, particularly the monks in Ireland.
@@mattymuso2108 the young brothers, when first coming to the monastery, learned the prayers, divine office and Masses by memorization and repetition. Even if they could read, there was normally only one manuscript for the chantor and, possibly, the scola. (One of the reasons the ancient texts were written so large was so that several monks could gather around to use it.)
Amazing!!!Doric have a temporal sign from my point of view this is associate with SaturnI can feel very deep in my heart Gregorian music because i have -Saturn-Neptune-Uranos conjuncion y my 6th house
one correction. The Graduale Triplex was published by Pope Paul VI, via Annabale Bugnini in 1972, not 1979. The Pope presented the triplex to the Church intending it to be the "fons primus" ( first source ) of sacred music for the Catholic Church when offering the Novus Ordo Mass.
+Latin Mass Choir The Graduale Triplex in my hands at this moment says Solesmes 1979. Copyright page says the imprimatur was given in 1973. So you are at least partially wrong. Do you have a source supporting the earlier 1972 date?
The imprimatur is 1973, the Triplex was order to be produced by Congregation of Sacred Rites in 1972. My point is that this Vatican II Triplex was to be released, with the new Mass - to accompany the new banal Mass - but the modernists, led by scheming Anabale Bugnini made sure it never got out. Pope Paul VI was to weak and stupid to insist , so we had to wait till 1979 before it was released. By that time the guitar and tamborine set had done their liturgical damage across the Catholic world and then Bugnini's modernists could ignore the Triplex, pretending it never existed.
The entire "nuance theory" put forth by this lecture was already discredited before Cardine's master work was even published. We know for a fact from medieval testimony that Gregorian chant was originally rhythmic, with precisely fixed note values of long and short, not slight nuances of light and heavy. Cardine brought the neumes to popular awareness, but he was not the first to (re)discover them, and he certainly did not interpret them correctly.
This will never be a TED talk...even though its been around since the 8th century and still being used all around the world...and serves as the real foundation of all Western and annotated music...
around 12 years back i and my friend entered our village chapel alone at night and we heard a mysterious music large choirs singing and this sound was coming from the sacristy area of the chapel or from approximately that side . We never understrood what it was but than many years later when i heard the gregorian chant. I realised it was the same similar music but i had no one to discuss with but it was definately a paranormal phenomena and its origins were heavenly im sure of it. it was late night and no one was there around the chapel and the music was soo loud yet so crystal clear. I still dont undertand what it meant
Very interesting, especially the interpretation of the neumes. Never heard themsung before,and interesting how the afford far more expression to the pieces, than the square neumes alone.
Wonderful teaching. Thank you for your service.
Τhe scream/chant of Castrato Alessandro Moreschi tells exactly in every which detail the whole true on going story, Just like the paintings of various masters at the time, including DaVinci's Louvre art works.
It is unfair for Neil McEwan to state that the monks of 1000 years ago could not read. These men were trained in both Latin and Greek, and were the guardians of learning and knowledge during the dark ages, particularly the monks in Ireland.
Prolly some were. And some weren't. Surely this is obvious.
How would they recite the divine office, psalmody, say the appropriate mass etc. if they couldn't read?
@@mattymuso2108 they would repeat what they heard.... then again I wasn't there!
@@mattymuso2108 by impersonating the teacher?
@@mattymuso2108 the young brothers, when first coming to the monastery, learned the prayers, divine office and Masses by memorization and repetition. Even if they could read, there was normally only one manuscript for the chantor and, possibly, the scola. (One of the reasons the ancient texts were written so large was so that several monks could gather around to use it.)
They are singing in the Solesmes style. I don’t hear any of the rhythmic and ornamental variations associated with the semiological school.
HEAVENLY!
Is there ANY chance anyone has the slides he's using for this lecture?
Benedict of Nursia, 5th-6th c. Charlemagne died 814. Etc.
Amazing!!!Doric have a temporal sign from my point of view this is associate with SaturnI can feel very deep in my heart Gregorian music because i have -Saturn-Neptune-Uranos conjuncion y my 6th house
one correction. The Graduale Triplex was published by Pope Paul VI, via Annabale Bugnini in 1972, not 1979. The Pope presented the triplex to the Church intending it to be the "fons primus" ( first source ) of sacred music for the Catholic Church when offering the Novus Ordo Mass.
+Latin Mass Choir The Graduale Triplex in my hands at this moment says Solesmes 1979. Copyright page says the imprimatur was given in 1973. So you are at least partially wrong. Do you have a source supporting the earlier 1972 date?
The imprimatur is 1973, the Triplex was order to be produced by Congregation of Sacred Rites in 1972. My point is that this Vatican II Triplex was to be released, with the new Mass - to accompany the new banal Mass - but the modernists, led by scheming Anabale Bugnini made sure it never got out. Pope Paul VI was to weak and stupid to insist , so we had to wait till 1979 before it was released. By that time the guitar and tamborine set had done their liturgical damage across the Catholic world and then Bugnini's modernists could ignore the Triplex, pretending it never existed.
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The illustrations do not come across very well on a phone screen. It would be so much better if the chant was sung before he spoke about it.
Phillip Evans maybe he’s a shit singer.
The entire "nuance theory" put forth by this lecture was already discredited before Cardine's master work was even published. We know for a fact from medieval testimony that Gregorian chant was originally rhythmic, with precisely fixed note values of long and short, not slight nuances of light and heavy. Cardine brought the neumes to popular awareness, but he was not the first to (re)discover them, and he certainly did not interpret them correctly.
Would the post-Tridentine chant notation used before Solesmes be more authentic, since it denotes note lengths?