Y'all, this vid was made before long guard got the startup M1 damage bonus buff, it's surely not in the D tier in its current state. I will be updating this list in the future. Stay tuned my dudes 🙏
Long guards start up m1 didn't get buffed but instead they buffed it's stamina meaning instead of 10 m1's it has 11. But staggering with it's m1, it becomes one of the best styles in the game as of rn. L tier list btw many of the styles doesn't belong on the tier that's in there (also the long guard buff has been here for weeks they js didn't announce it)
Basic is really good when you use it right, infight, outbox, countering, brute force, you name it, Basic can do it all. And why is long guard on D tier? Long guards range inherited Hitmans range, and its fast startup, makes it a really good style for outboxing,.
both styles can 100 to 0 their opponents with 10 m2s but ironfist is slightly stronger since it can take you out with 9 m2s and one m1 while slugger needs 9 fully charged m2s and four m1s to 100-0 your hp they're almost equal tho ','
Kimura is a style for people that want to win for the sake of it, if you are so slow you can barely perfect dodge, what the hell are you supposed to do?
@@Hidden1000 "Champions like me" 💀💀💀💀 You say that, while the idea of pushing them away with punches is useless, since you have to get close, which gives him more and more chances to slow you down, and the effect takes more than you think to wear off.
For anyone if someone would be mad from tier list Remember when someone calls your style trash and you cook with it (like for example shot out to long guard guys with 20 ks) It means that your so cool that u can cook with "low tier" (by someone subjactive opinion) style Idk why i wrote so many text but anyway don't get mad at tier list, it's just someone opinion.
@@Aslambzhikghost has the best staggering, best feints (my opinion), extremely good at being aggressive, literally has long range on m1s if you feint and in my opinion i think it has one of the hardest m2s to dodge since most of the people I fight quite literally cannot dodge the m2 probably cause of aggressiveness
This is a weird tier list… Smash is not s tier because that heavy is just too slow, no matter how strong. Most people can easily dodge it. This is covered thanks to feinting. Other than that, damage is great, good dashes, over all good style so I believe about low a tier. Bullet should not be s tier because the m1 damage sucks(lower than long guard) and the jab mechanic is inconsistent. The heavy counter damage is okay though. Dashes are about long guard. High b tier. Kimura should not be s tier because the slowdown can be avoided pretty well by just stalling. Also the m1s do not have fast enough startup and can be avoided well. However the slowdown snowballs really well. Low a tier. Counter has good dashes, decent block, consistent damage. Can fight against majority of styles well. A tier. Ghost is a good style with a free interaction win with ghost jab, but one sided m1s and m2s make for easy dodging when the opponent starts to adapt to you. Not bad dashes and damage is okay. A tier. Freedom is amazing when played well, but once caught it just dies. Also, all of its modes have mechanics from other styles, so if you know how to deal with them, freedom is a breeze. High b tier. Iron fist has amazing damage, a comeback ult, and slowdown effect. But it has unrecoverable self damage, slow m2s like smash that are easy to dodge(but hit like a truck), and bad dashes. Dash wrong and you get heavy punishment. Lights are a bit slow and predictable pattern being left to right. Hitman has amazing damage, good block, fast start up, and amazing range. The opponent makes one mistake and their health is taken away. Dashes are really bad, but that really doesn’t matter. However, one sided m1s and m2s that are really easy to dodge. But there is feinting which covers it. S tier, but not the best style. Hawk should be much higher in s tier. Amazing and deceptive range, damage that snowballs, a fifth dash that dodges every punch, a below average but decent block, and anti heal. This style is amazing. By playing agressive, low block really doesn’t matter as you are the one taking initiative and attacking, not blocking. By keeping pressure, you increase gauge and snowball the fight. Slugger should be higher on s tier because of deceptive range, anti heal, decently fast lights, and a chargeable heavy that can mix up and deal amazing damage. One perfect dodge and 1/8 of the opponenet’s health is gone due to the heavy. Block damage is good and block is low but enough to withstand a single barrage. Fights end really quick with slugger.
You're not really supposed to throw a smash m2 unless you've mind gamed your opponent into thinking you'd always throw a feint. Perfect dodging with smash is also more rewarding compared to other styles mentioned, less risky compared to ironfist since it takes no self damage and easier to do compared to slugger with its better dodge. With Kimura, it is understood that your m1s will be slower but all you really need to do is to catch your opponent three to four times to make em practically immobile. You can't really stall Kimura forever since you'll run out of stamina quickly once he gets his slow stacks on you. Ghost has one of the best abilities in the game, he can begin a combo during your startup with its ghost jab. Not to mention he can basically ult you safely even if you're not below half since, again, he can catch you with the jab right after the ult anim. Feinting with ghost is also very rewarding, pair that with the zero m1 indicators and it'll be very hard for you to be read by your opponent. Hawk is good, yea, but you really can just play passive against him to make him lose his modes. There's little Hawk can do against it since its got weak front dashes. I think I've made my points clear on ironfist alr so yea Hitman is basically low risk high reward. If you look at plain stats no one's really better. Plus, if you learn how to dodge as hitman then there's no touching you since its got a very strong guard. Slugger isn't as strong as it used to, you'll lose if you brawl it out with slugger sure. But with its slow punches, they are so easily dodgeable. And no, slugger can't really withstand constant pressure, one chronos barrage is enough to take out its guard and chronos has a below average damage. Edit: Slugger does 1/10 of your health as damage with a fully charged m2 not 1/8 Thanks for sharing your thoughts tho.
I still wouldn't agree smash to be s tier tho it's a bit too high, since it's really countered by reaction based playstyles in higher skill ceiling in ranked where they just pd everything. It would be A tier at best since it's inconsistent in higher ranks. It's pretty much a 50/50
Shotgun's barrage may took away 90% of your stamina,but the stamina require for it to be able to use is BELOW 50% (6 M1s before use), this can help you to have at least 5% damage confirmed every single times barrage off cooldowns. Your job here is to have your jabs slowly when barrage on cooldowns for it to off cd, and throw it with m1 combo when it's off cooldowns. For the bonus counter damage taken, just dont try to get countered and everything solved. Personally,i think shotgun should be at least A tier above charge. You got good stats, decent startups speed, an ability that can give your opponent pernament 5% damage everytime for just a bonus counter damage taken.
speed and block tenacity are important in a fight since without one, you're at a slight disadvantage agaisnt wolf, and corkscrew. both of these styles can litterally kill you in a matter of seconds if they are pros and know what to do.
As an Ippo user, i only use this style prob because i have MC syndrome, but i literally pulled freedom and slugger but idk how to use them. But thanks to Ippo i am still keeping my winning streak
15:14 as a slugger main this happens to me even with a solid 80 ping this is probably because of roblox servers being bad or just a bug that drowningsome dosent notice
Honestly tips for ghost is only use ghost jab when someone gets too near,look what mah boi ricardo did to ippo,HECK EVEN DEMPSEY ROLL GOT TIRED OF CARRYING IPPO💀.
Wolf has a small stun time after using his whitefang, but they can dodge I think? Maybe, but when I used wolf and use the double m2, I always could not follow up. Just a thing that makes wolf just a tiny bit worse, although it doesn’t matter
Wolf is so busted though, that second M2 is always guaranteed if you miss the PD or block the first. Not even just difficult, it's bugged to legitimately be impossible to do.
hawk is kinda the best when you get to ecstasy its like a 75 percent ghost jab almost undodgable m1 and m2 is also fast with m1 anti heal and also with hawk you can perfect dodge light attacks easily if you have good reaction time this style is overpowered the range got nerfed but still overpowered
honestly the ecstasy mode is fast but isnt so fast that u cant dodge it, its very easy if u just learn the pattern but ye i get what u are saying the swayback and other stuff is still too good
Ngl for me I would put shot gun in The worst tier possible is bc that if they counter ur barrage move ur cooked u can’t dash until u get it again but in that period of time Yr cooked u can’t dash which is part of winning ur possibly ur gonna shred lots of ur health except if ur gonna fight a noob
i know bruh 😩😩😩 corkscrew buff, slight nerf on speedy styles most will likely retain their places tho but we'll see once i make an update on the list soon
@@yabooomboom also, the best part, Hawk got a HEAVY range nerf. So glad for that. It now has really bad range, and average in Ecstasy mode. Everything else is the same, but range was murdered down.
I main chronos because im a perfect dodge monster and idc if i have below avr stats if u cant touch me it doesn't matter the only thing holding me back is lag and wolf. and his m2 counter dmg is alot and i main him for his ability and dashes overall and reason why i dont main freedom its just hard to grasp its playstyle of 3? and its fragility but idk all styles are s tier if used correctly my opinion tho
I main bullet its very good style recommend for counter people not just the m2 the m1 are good once can counter enough and if you master the bullet jabs you practically a monster
Are you trying to sound stupid? Bullet counter m2 does 15% damage to average styles, 9% to Iron fist, 20% to hands low and shotgun. Focus mode used to deal 50% damage before it was nerfed to 45% and no focus did 40% until it was nerfed to 35%, currently focus does only 40%. Said by Miguel'O'Hara (THE balancer himself)
Honestly, I get where your going with chronos by putting it at C tier but I don't think it's fair cus chronos has got some ridiculously high counter dmg especially in focus mode, if you know how to land counters in focus mode you can just eat away at your opponent's health like crazy, even in base mode it's counter dmg is very high, pair this with amazing dashes and a crazy block dmg i think it's a solid high A or low S style but I get your point too since it has weak block, low dmg and other things. It is actually as balanced as ghost is in my opinion as a Chronos main
i see it dude, it's just that counters while on focus is very risky cause you could get snapped out of it with one mistake i respect good chronos players fr fr, dat style's pretty hard to use
unpopular fact: freedom does not have actually have 80 hp, he just take 20% more dmg. a normal m2 does 6 dmg and it took more than 14 hits to ko a full hp freedom
i feel like freedom is most honestly low A tier at best. its fragility really makes it a turn off and most of the time if ur playing against someone good they can just out damage you which is very annoying. it has great potential but its stats are holding it down too much.
Shotgun rework is taking so long. Now i have an idea to balance him. Alright basically make the barrage not consume all if your stamina while the speed n dmg are the same. Like it only takes 30 or 25% of your stamina. And about the glass jaw which is his downside. I thought of an small bar in your screen that tells how worse is the shotgun getting countered gonna be. Basically the meter will increase everytime your m2 is getting countered. How it works Getting M2 countered by M2= meter increases. Getting M2 countered by M1 =slight meter increase. Getting M1 countered by M1 = not increasing. Why? Cause hayami/shotgun doesn't ha the glass jaw before he fought ippo. What do yall think
@@j-hk2kd I dunno where Ur saying how's he even weaker. But I'd assume your talking about the getting countered part. Cus at the start of the match your gonna take normal counter dmg as everyother styles like basic, long guard, smash and etc who doesn't take extra counter dmg. The bar will only increase every time your gonna get countered. Like it's slowly gonna get worse every time your gonna get countered.
@@tougKaxva I think it’s just far too easy to pressure and get pressured during matches. But then again, I’m a Gold 3 turning Diamond 1, so I can’t say much.
@@j-hk2kdI'm pretty sure your talking about the glass jaw. I'll make it simple You and I know shotgun glass jaw is a huge drawback to him so what I'm thinking of is making that drawback not really a big deal. At the start of the match shotgun wouldn't get extra counter dmg. Like he would take the same counter dmg as every other styles that doesn't take extra counter dmg like basic, cork, etc. So he will basically have a prodigy type stat. -Fast M1, M2 -Decent dashes -Average block or below By the time if the shotgun user takes counter too much the bar meter will increase. Like No extra counter dmg --> extra counter dmg as hands low ---> shotgun extra dmg. Like it will slowly build up if he's getting too much counters.
As a 21.5k who’s been playing since August, i’ll just put some tips for ya 1. There is WAY too much styles in S tier 2. Long guard is the worst style for you⁉️ 3. How tf did chronos manage to land lower than iron fist
@@JakeOddy Chronos can atleast gain something from being passive. Iron fists whole style is just so niche. You can barely chase anyone with its bad dashes so you’re forced to be passive if they back dash away, m2’s are controversial since you take damage yourself. Ult is controversial since most of the times, you won’t even get the maximum value from it. Chronos on the other hand benefits to those who are good with counters. Chronos is also the style with the fastest m1 in the entire game. Focus is a bit I will be honest, mid since you have to ‘focus’ (Ha i’m so funny) but you can use a tech where your focus is guaranteed to hit/continue its m1 chain. Its ult is again a little niche (since ult damage differs if you’re in focus or not) but if you use the tech, you will mostly land chronos’s ult in focus most of the time. Difference: Dashes - Chronos < Iron Fist Damage - Chronos > Iron fist Counters - Chronos < Iron Fist M1’s (Telegraphed) - Chronos > Iron Fist M2’s (Telegraphed) - Chronos > Iron Fist Ult - Chronos < Iron Fist Rewards for being passive - Chronos < Iron Fist Ult gain - Chronos < Iron Fist You see where i’m going? Iron fist is imo, the worse legendary based on the stats I gave
@@JakeOddy What if I mess up the pd? With iron fist, you literally have nothing else to do but to accept free damage. And since iron fist has slow m1’s, fighting back isn’t an option either. You can still double dash with chronos to avoid damage or counter since chronos has the fastest m1’s
You forgot Hitman's biggest downside which is its weak stamina. Kimura is a bad match up because it locks Hitman to being able to do 3 flicker jabs before being stamina broken lol plus when succumbed to pressure, Hitman would seek to move away for some breathing space only to get easily caught because they dont have the stamina for both an M1 and dashing along with its very predictable patterns. It doesnt need a nerf IMO due to this but I do also feel bad using it myself because people keep leaving the match when they cant get their turn back
Bro really put ghost behind so much styles when it counters every other style you use against it like I fought a ghost once I was sitting at diamon rank and this platinum looking ranker I fought was using ghost and I had to endure infinitely changing tactics by this guy whilst making sure that I don't loose health in making a pound for pound effort ghost is op no excuses, unless you wanna explain how the ghost style which is based on a character from a boxing anime who had 70 wins 0 losses and 0 draws this guy is a beast, he's the ALPHA AND THE OMEGA
Ghost is versatile, that's why most ghost mains are able to do well in almost any matchup. There's one catch tho, it's lacking on the damage department which holds it back from being the strongest through stats alone, this is where skill comes in. That dude you fought probably got the hang of ghost and is able to use it effectively at most times. The anime doesn't really translate well to the game too, look at slugger for example, he's based on the goat Takamura, a middleweight world champion with a hardened body but in game its got a very weak guard. Also, I based this half on my experiences and half on pure stats alone. Just because I said something doesn't mean that that's the objective fact, clearly some people will think that this is stronger than that or that is stronger than this.
Alr so dont get me wrong im not tryna trash talk to your tier list or some but chronos at c? Basic at A? Smash at s? Handa low at s too? Like KIMURA s? I am respecting your tierlist but u look at some styles so powerfull that i have a feeling u are placing some styles that u like higher cuz chronos can't be C hes a Kimura easily B+ Smash easily a Counter is easily B Hammer is easily B or even a cuz of the skill cuz u cant pd every time he's to good for it.
@@Fujyyj yo bro thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏 there's a reason why Kimura's banned in most tournaments chronos is glass without the cannon unless he's at focus with its counter damage Basic got the damage to really compete with the others counter take hmm yea I kinda agree with you there along with hammer anw, will be updating this list soon since there's been a balance change last week thanks for the thoughts my g 🙏
I agree longaurd is fun to use, but ironfist has the same exact range as it lol, Bullet needs a nerf because people keep spamming feint and heavy, and ippo isn't realy good charge is better factually
Hammer bodyblow was never fixed. I asked the balance team and they confirmed it, wolf m2 also has a bug that has something to do with rollback that makes white fang true. Chronos is also bugged where if you successfully pd, it counts as a hit and focus randomly turns off which makes it longer or shorter but it depends. Slugger is also bugged which makes their m2 not perfect dodgeable. Bullet's passive is barely working aswell, etc. This game is kinda buggy I cant lie
yoo how'd you get in touch with the balance team btw? would be really helpful to make inquiries about the styles from time to time to prevent inaccuracies when discussing em in the future vids 🙏
@@yabooomboom You can sometimes catch them talking in the official discord server and sometimes they'd talk about bugs so sometimes I learn about new bugs about the game.
@@NamelessWither just because you can doesn't mean it's fixed. That's why it's buggy, it's unpredictable. Sometimes you can dodge it, sometimes you can't. It's not acting right and interacting unpredictable.
Wait this quality is great, as a ippo main I feel hitman is BROKEN compared to in boxer styles and just bullies them keep going boom man you’re extremely underrated.
hitman's strong stat wise but it can be countered lel freedom takes a lot of practice for someone to really tap onto its potential, i kinda suck with that style too 😵
@@yabooomboom The thing is, when i use hitman, i ran out of stamina really quickly, idk if its hitman's downsides or not but having low stamina is definitely not my playstyle
y'all i kinda forgot to mute some of the emote clips t-t lol please bear w me on this vid 🙏 edit: please dont get too mad at me for the placements since i based 50 percent of em solely in my own experiences and the other half on their plain stats, all styles are viable under the right hands 🙏🙏
Hey bro, idk if that is you but if i remembered i was fighting you and i was using ghost, and i was like searching for what style that i used perfectly. Yea if that actually you well im glad i meet you bcz i finally can use the style that i perfectly use by me so ty if that is really you
![TROLLING a TOXIC WORLD CHAMPION with CORKSCREW STYLE! [Untitled Boxing Game]](/img/1.gif)
Y'all, this vid was made before long guard got the startup M1 damage bonus buff, it's surely not in the D tier in its current state.
I will be updating this list in the future.
Stay tuned my dudes 🙏
Long guards start up m1 didn't get buffed but instead they buffed it's stamina meaning instead of 10 m1's it has 11. But staggering with it's m1, it becomes one of the best styles in the game as of rn. L tier list btw many of the styles doesn't belong on the tier that's in there (also the long guard buff has been here for weeks they js didn't announce it)
long guard put lower than shotgun is wild
Basic is really good when you use it right, infight, outbox, countering, brute force, you name it, Basic can do it all.
And why is long guard on D tier? Long guards range inherited Hitmans range, and its fast startup, makes it a really good style for outboxing,.
I wish it had hitman's range honestly
I love long guard man but it really needs a buff of some sort
Check Jwordz’s Long Guard vid.
@@yabooomboomfacts
The main downside to it is it has no gimmick
Long guards underated
"iron fist has the strongest m2 in the game"
Slugger m2: pardon
both styles can 100 to 0 their opponents with 10 m2s
but ironfist is slightly stronger since it can take you out with 9 m2s and one m1
while
slugger needs 9 fully charged m2s and four m1s to 100-0 your hp
they're almost equal tho ','
I wouldn't say strongest m2 I would probably say strongest true damage m2 (mixed with counter dmg)
Iron Fist’s m2 will cause both players to take dmg. Slugger does not. It also can’t be pd’d.
@@yabooomboomYou can take an opponent down with 9m2 and 1 m1 but you will delete half your hp
Iron fists used to deal slowness but it’s bugged so it is the strongest
When i use chronos i always save the focus until the enemy low so i can easily knockdown faster before the enemy knock me first
that's actually really smart ','
when he said that iron fist has "good dashes" i lost it, he has a bad dash, my boy kamogawa needs buffs asap TwT
my bad dude t-t
What's wrong with you, most of the S tier were A
You can't get mad at him it's his opinion if he thinks those styles are s tear then let him be we all have different opinions
Does*
Its his opinion not yours
@@HykelArdipramana-qg2ee Any problem you comment on?
@@AlviYe so don't complain with "what's wrong with you with you, most of the S tier were A"
When i use ghost i always spam my ghost jab whenever in an ult so most of the time i get the first hit after the ult ends
really good way to catch em my dude
Kimura is a style for people that want to win for the sake of it, if you are so slow you can barely perfect dodge, what the hell are you supposed to do?
gimmicks don't get you far, champions like me will be willing to push them away with punches or wait it out the effect to wear off
@@Hidden1000 "Champions like me" 💀💀💀💀
You say that, while the idea of pushing them away with punches is useless, since you have to get close, which gives him more and more chances to slow you down, and the effect takes more than you think to wear off.
Never let bro cook again
fr 🗿
@@yabooomboom what
For anyone if someone would be mad from tier list
Remember when someone calls your style trash and you cook with it (like for example shot out to long guard guys with 20 ks)
It means that your so cool that u can cook with "low tier" (by someone subjactive opinion) style
Idk why i wrote so many text but anyway don't get mad at tier list, it's just someone opinion.
And pls say what's differents between ghost and basic because i don't see =)
thank u bro t-t
this guy gets it fr fr
@@Aslambzhikghost has the best staggering, best feints (my opinion), extremely good at being aggressive, literally has long range on m1s if you feint and in my opinion i think it has one of the hardest m2s to dodge since most of the people I fight quite literally cannot dodge the m2 probably cause of aggressiveness
@@skull-hi8zi i can't argue with one thing
Hardest to dodge m2? It's just basics m2 that comes always from right....
@@Aslambzhikyeah but it's my opinion cause people who I fight cannot even dodge it most of the time
chronus made me get 30 streak and im proud being chronus main
sheesh, respect 🙏
chronus=chromatic anus
This is a weird tier list…
Smash is not s tier because that heavy is just too slow, no matter how strong. Most people can easily dodge it. This is covered thanks to feinting. Other than that, damage is great, good dashes, over all good style so I believe about low a tier.
Bullet should not be s tier because the m1 damage sucks(lower than long guard) and the jab mechanic is inconsistent. The heavy counter damage is okay though. Dashes are about long guard. High b tier.
Kimura should not be s tier because the slowdown can be avoided pretty well by just stalling. Also the m1s do not have fast enough startup and can be avoided well. However the slowdown snowballs really well. Low a tier.
Counter has good dashes, decent block, consistent damage. Can fight against majority of styles well. A tier.
Ghost is a good style with a free interaction win with ghost jab, but one sided m1s and m2s make for easy dodging when the opponent starts to adapt to you. Not bad dashes and damage is okay. A tier.
Freedom is amazing when played well, but once caught it just dies. Also, all of its modes have mechanics from other styles, so if you know how to deal with them, freedom is a breeze. High b tier.
Iron fist has amazing damage, a comeback ult, and slowdown effect. But it has unrecoverable self damage, slow m2s like smash that are easy to dodge(but hit like a truck), and bad dashes. Dash wrong and you get heavy punishment. Lights are a bit slow and predictable pattern being left to right.
Hitman has amazing damage, good block, fast start up, and amazing range. The opponent makes one mistake and their health is taken away. Dashes are really bad, but that really doesn’t matter. However, one sided m1s and m2s that are really easy to dodge. But there is feinting which covers it. S tier, but not the best style.
Hawk should be much higher in s tier. Amazing and deceptive range, damage that snowballs, a fifth dash that dodges every punch, a below average but decent block, and anti heal. This style is amazing. By playing agressive, low block really doesn’t matter as you are the one taking initiative and attacking, not blocking. By keeping pressure, you increase gauge and snowball the fight.
Slugger should be higher on s tier because of deceptive range, anti heal, decently fast lights, and a chargeable heavy that can mix up and deal amazing damage. One perfect dodge and 1/8 of the opponenet’s health is gone due to the heavy. Block damage is good and block is low but enough to withstand a single barrage. Fights end really quick with slugger.
You're not really supposed to throw a smash m2 unless you've mind gamed your opponent into thinking you'd always throw a feint. Perfect dodging with smash is also more rewarding compared to other styles mentioned, less risky compared to ironfist since it takes no self damage and easier to do compared to slugger with its better dodge.
With Kimura, it is understood that your m1s will be slower but all you really need to do is to catch your opponent three to four times to make em practically immobile. You can't really stall Kimura forever since you'll run out of stamina quickly once he gets his slow stacks on you.
Ghost has one of the best abilities in the game, he can begin a combo during your startup with its ghost jab. Not to mention he can basically ult you safely even if you're not below half since, again, he can catch you with the jab right after the ult anim. Feinting with ghost is also very rewarding, pair that with the zero m1 indicators and it'll be very hard for you to be read by your opponent.
Hawk is good, yea, but you really can just play passive against him to make him lose his modes. There's little Hawk can do against it since its got weak front dashes.
I think I've made my points clear on ironfist alr so yea
Hitman is basically low risk high reward. If you look at plain stats no one's really better. Plus, if you learn how to dodge as hitman then there's no touching you since its got a very strong guard.
Slugger isn't as strong as it used to, you'll lose if you brawl it out with slugger sure. But with its slow punches, they are so easily dodgeable. And no, slugger can't really withstand constant pressure, one chronos barrage is enough to take out its guard and chronos has a below average damage.
Edit: Slugger does 1/10 of your health as damage with a fully charged m2 not 1/8
Thanks for sharing your thoughts tho.
@@yabooomboom thanks man 👍
@@UnhelpfulEngineer thanks for them valid takes too g 🙏
I still wouldn't agree smash to be s tier tho it's a bit too high, since it's really countered by reaction based playstyles in higher skill ceiling in ranked where they just pd everything. It would be A tier at best since it's inconsistent in higher ranks. It's pretty much a 50/50
hands low desperately needs a buff
Not really. It will get a rework eventually tho.
@@j-hk2kdhow
nah it's alr perfect that way
@@v3nomousz_ dawg its been one of the worst styles for 20 updates in a row or smth like that
@@a_real_idiot98 what makes that?
As a slugger main I can confirm that I feel my range is a bit weird now
drives me nuts sometimes 💀
Shotgun's barrage may took away 90% of your stamina,but the stamina require for it to be able to use is BELOW 50% (6 M1s before use), this can help you to have at least 5% damage confirmed every single times barrage off cooldowns. Your job here is to have your jabs slowly when barrage on cooldowns for it to off cd, and throw it with m1 combo when it's off cooldowns.
For the bonus counter damage taken, just dont try to get countered and everything solved.
Personally,i think shotgun should be at least A tier above charge. You got good stats, decent startups speed, an ability that can give your opponent pernament 5% damage everytime for just a bonus counter damage taken.
speed and block tenacity are important in a fight since without one, you're at a slight disadvantage agaisnt wolf, and corkscrew. both of these styles can litterally kill you in a matter of seconds if they are pros and know what to do.
As an Ippo user, i only use this style prob because i have MC syndrome, but i literally pulled freedom and slugger but idk how to use them. But thanks to Ippo i am still keeping my winning streak
15:14
as a slugger main
this happens to me even with a solid 80 ping
this is probably because of roblox servers being bad or just a bug that drowningsome dosent notice
Honestly feel like it's a bug 🤔
I sure do hope it's a bug cuz if it's a nerf I'm gonna bawl my eyes out
As an iron fist main, it's not 80% it's 75% ult
2 m2s 24%
1 m1 1%
Ult 75%
100% ko
thanks for pointing it out my dude ','
As a Freedom main, idk if it's just me but Freedom Flicker jabs feels better than Hitman's,
It feels faster for some reason.
It has little to no endlag, the damage is identical to hitman but has shorter range
In fact it does have the faster flicker jabs
Honestly tips for ghost is only use ghost jab when someone gets too near,look what mah boi ricardo did to ippo,HECK EVEN DEMPSEY ROLL GOT TIRED OF CARRYING IPPO💀.
2 m1s, pause, repeat
In my Opinion,"smashing" can get rid of your opponent as soon as possible that also depends if you're a brawler or in fighter
Wolf has a small stun time after using his whitefang, but they can dodge I think? Maybe, but when I used wolf and use the double m2, I always could not follow up. Just a thing that makes wolf just a tiny bit worse, although it doesn’t matter
hitman can be countered by…. Dodging :/
@@Idkman......... every style can be countered by dodging '-'
@@yabooomboom Yes :(
Wolf is so busted though, that second M2 is always guaranteed if you miss the PD or block the first. Not even just difficult, it's bugged to legitimately be impossible to do.
@@zetasans495 Fr
u shouldve put freedom higher, since the ability cooldown got removed recently
it's a lil too fragile in my opinion tho by i might look into that, thanks for the thoughts my dude 🤔
Nice video, Counter is my favorite style
very chad choice my dude
@@yabooomboom tysm 💯💪
Counter shoud be higher cause of its balance and because it has same speed m1 as hitman
Ngl the smash part got me laughing a little lol
Also i never knew hammer and charge existed in the game😂
EYY HSHS glad you enjoyed my dude 🙏
hammers are quite rampant on ranked atm WKWK
hawk is kinda the best when you get to ecstasy its like a 75 percent ghost jab almost undodgable m1 and m2 is also fast with m1 anti heal and also with hawk you can perfect dodge light attacks easily if you have good reaction time this style is overpowered the range got nerfed but still overpowered
honestly the ecstasy mode is fast but isnt so fast that u cant dodge it, its very easy if u just learn the pattern but ye i get what u are saying the swayback and other stuff is still too good
Ngl for me I would put shot gun in The worst tier possible is bc that if they counter ur barrage move ur cooked u can’t dash until u get it again but in that period of time Yr cooked u can’t dash which is part of winning ur possibly ur gonna shred lots of ur health except if ur gonna fight a noob
Pls notice this to
I think they fixed that already, but if that were still the case then yea I agree
you're underrated as hell wtf
should get more subs
thank you my g 😩
Dude you need to remake this again cuz the game just made a balance change
i know bruh 😩😩😩
corkscrew buff, slight nerf on speedy styles
most will likely retain their places tho but we'll see once i make an update on the list soon
@@yabooomboom also, the best part, Hawk got a HEAVY range nerf. So glad for that. It now has really bad range, and average in Ecstasy mode. Everything else is the same, but range was murdered down.
Nekota Style on top (waiting for it to be made sob)
I wonder if swallow style would work
I'm the 200th subscriber:) btw you forgot to mention that freedom's whirlwind can swayback
I main chronos because im a perfect dodge monster and idc if i have below avr stats if u cant touch me it doesn't matter the only thing holding me back is lag and wolf. and his m2 counter dmg is alot and i main him for his ability and dashes overall and reason why i dont main freedom its just hard to grasp its playstyle of 3? and its fragility but idk all styles are s tier if used correctly my opinion tho
I main bullet its very good style recommend for counter people not just the m2 the m1 are good once can counter enough and if you master the bullet jabs you practically a monster
its passive is a lil tricky but very rewarding once you get the hang of it 🙏
Ty bro love yo vidoes
Yes it's a Lil tricky but it's manageable
Long guard is good by using m1s right and style as well
Fun fact, focus mode does not increase chronos ult . I tried ulting a 50% health freedom with focus mode and they survived with 10% ish.
It only adds 5% more damage, without focus it does 35%.
@@choton8195
No focus focus does 45 while with focus does 45 lol.
@@choton8195 35 that's basically a bullet counter
Are you trying to sound stupid? Bullet counter m2 does 15% damage to average styles, 9% to Iron fist, 20% to hands low and shotgun. Focus mode used to deal 50% damage before it was nerfed to 45% and no focus did 40% until it was nerfed to 35%, currently focus does only 40%. Said by Miguel'O'Hara (THE balancer himself)
@@choton8195 I meant a few bullet counters but ok
small correction. iron fist ult does 75% :)
idk about yall but i love hitman. Not using it, but fighting it 😅
Honestly, I get where your going with chronos by putting it at C tier but I don't think it's fair cus chronos has got some ridiculously high counter dmg especially in focus mode, if you know how to land counters in focus mode you can just eat away at your opponent's health like crazy, even in base mode it's counter dmg is very high, pair this with amazing dashes and a crazy block dmg i think it's a solid high A or low S style but I get your point too since it has weak block, low dmg and other things. It is actually as balanced as ghost is in my opinion as a Chronos main
i see it dude, it's just that counters while on focus is very risky cause you could get snapped out of it with one mistake
i respect good chronos players fr fr, dat style's pretty hard to use
@@yabooomboom Thx, like I said I get where you're going and I respect your opinion too. I just stated my own
@@ArcaneGreatness didn't mean to sound defensive my dude, i respect that i respect that 🙏
unpopular fact: freedom does not have actually have 80 hp, he just take 20% more dmg. a normal m2 does 6 dmg and it took more than 14 hits to ko a full hp freedom
i feel like freedom is most honestly low A tier at best. its fragility really makes it a turn off and most of the time if ur playing against someone good they can just out damage you which is very annoying. it has great potential but its stats are holding it down too much.
Shotgun rework is taking so long. Now i have an idea to balance him.
Alright basically make the barrage not consume all if your stamina while the speed n dmg are the same. Like it only takes 30 or 25% of your stamina.
And about the glass jaw which is his downside. I thought of an small bar in your screen that tells how worse is the shotgun getting countered gonna be.
Basically the meter will increase everytime your m2 is getting countered.
How it works
Getting M2 countered by M2= meter increases.
Getting M2 countered by M1 =slight meter increase.
Getting M1 countered by M1 = not increasing.
Why? Cause hayami/shotgun doesn't ha the glass jaw before he fought ippo.
What do yall think
Idk, making him even weaker is questionable. But drowning will give us the rework on Friday. So sit tight.
@@j-hk2kd I dunno where Ur saying how's he even weaker. But I'd assume your talking about the getting countered part.
Cus at the start of the match your gonna take normal counter dmg as everyother styles like basic, long guard, smash and etc who doesn't take extra counter dmg.
The bar will only increase every time your gonna get countered.
Like it's slowly gonna get worse every time your gonna get countered.
@@tougKaxva I think it’s just far too easy to pressure and get pressured during matches. But then again, I’m a Gold 3 turning Diamond 1, so I can’t say much.
@@j-hk2kdI'm pretty sure your talking about the glass jaw.
I'll make it simple
You and I know shotgun glass jaw is a huge drawback to him so what I'm thinking of is making that drawback not really a big deal.
At the start of the match shotgun wouldn't get extra counter dmg.
Like he would take the same counter dmg as every other styles that doesn't take extra counter dmg like basic, cork, etc.
So he will basically have a prodigy type stat.
-Fast M1, M2
-Decent dashes
-Average block or below
By the time if the shotgun user takes counter too much the bar meter will increase.
Like
No extra counter dmg --> extra counter dmg as hands low ---> shotgun extra dmg.
Like it will slowly build up if he's getting too much counters.
@@tougKaxva ah, I see now. I take back what I’ve previously said.
Eiji Date is so Goated
a real chad indeed 🗿🗿
basic above counter hell nah never cook again, everytime I see a style ranking vid it’s really dumb
As a 21.5k who’s been playing since August, i’ll just put some tips for ya
1. There is WAY too much styles in S tier
2. Long guard is the worst style for you⁉️
3. How tf did chronos manage to land lower than iron fist
Chronos is mid asf, bad m1 and m2, a focus mode which all you can do is when they activate the focus just dodge and hit them
@@JakeOddy Chronos can atleast gain something from being passive. Iron fists whole style is just so niche. You can barely chase anyone with its bad dashes so you’re forced to be passive if they back dash away, m2’s are controversial since you take damage yourself. Ult is controversial since most of the times, you won’t even get the maximum value from it.
Chronos on the other hand benefits to those who are good with counters. Chronos is also the style with the fastest m1 in the entire game. Focus is a bit I will be honest, mid since you have to ‘focus’ (Ha i’m so funny) but you can use a tech where your focus is guaranteed to hit/continue its m1 chain. Its ult is again a little niche (since ult damage differs if you’re in focus or not) but if you use the tech, you will mostly land chronos’s ult in focus most of the time.
Difference:
Dashes - Chronos < Iron Fist
Damage - Chronos > Iron fist
Counters - Chronos < Iron Fist
M1’s (Telegraphed) - Chronos > Iron Fist
M2’s (Telegraphed) - Chronos > Iron Fist
Ult - Chronos < Iron Fist
Rewards for being passive - Chronos < Iron Fist
Ult gain - Chronos < Iron Fist
You see where i’m going? Iron fist is imo, the worse legendary based on the stats I gave
@@ForsakenChance just fucking perfect dodge
@@JakeOddy What if I mess up the pd? With iron fist, you literally have nothing else to do but to accept free damage. And since iron fist has slow m1’s, fighting back isn’t an option either. You can still double dash with chronos to avoid damage or counter since chronos has the fastest m1’s
@@ForsakenChance you can out box with any style in your game
Happy 105 subs
eyyy thank u my g 🙏😌
nah what long guard being d tier is crazy 😭😭😭😭😭
check the pinned comment my dude
@@yabooomboomeven before the buff it was definitely not a d tier, shotgun being higher is a disgrace
Bro I try hammer and it's effective in any mode bc it's annoying to use by enemy's
yea dudee, i will be updating this soon 🙏
15:16
Happens to me as well but rarely
You forgot Hitman's biggest downside which is its weak stamina. Kimura is a bad match up because it locks Hitman to being able to do 3 flicker jabs before being stamina broken lol plus when succumbed to pressure, Hitman would seek to move away for some breathing space only to get easily caught because they dont have the stamina for both an M1 and dashing along with its very predictable patterns. It doesnt need a nerf IMO due to this but I do also feel bad using it myself because people keep leaving the match when they cant get their turn back
Hey its me from last video let me guess you country your wn filipino cuz your singapore right?
Trickster, you were once my favorite style since you were the worst style back then. Seems like I'm gonna be a long guard main now.
bro is him 🗿
Bro really put ghost behind so much styles when it counters every other style you use against it like I fought a ghost once I was sitting at diamon rank and this platinum looking ranker I fought was using ghost and I had to endure infinitely changing tactics by this guy whilst making sure that I don't loose health in making a pound for pound effort ghost is op no excuses, unless you wanna explain how the ghost style which is based on a character from a boxing anime who had 70 wins 0 losses and 0 draws this guy is a beast, he's the ALPHA AND THE OMEGA
Ghost is versatile, that's why most ghost mains are able to do well in almost any matchup. There's one catch tho, it's lacking on the damage department which holds it back from being the strongest through stats alone, this is where skill comes in. That dude you fought probably got the hang of ghost and is able to use it effectively at most times.
The anime doesn't really translate well to the game too, look at slugger for example, he's based on the goat Takamura, a middleweight world champion with a hardened body but in game its got a very weak guard.
Also, I based this half on my experiences and half on pure stats alone. Just because I said something doesn't mean that that's the objective fact, clearly some people will think that this is stronger than that or that is stronger than this.
@@yabooomboom well it doesn't matter when the style is a hybrid like it can out speed you how are you gonna land a hit when the guys faster than you
@@D-class_5000 i mean ofc u gotta play around that with proper timing u kno
@@yabooomboom I mean it's hard using ghost around running freedom users
Smash (temu iron boxer) VS iron boxer
Most of ur S tiers are A or B
If you want to play all style just use freedom
Bro im the 200th subscriber 🎉❤
Yoooo thank u so much bro 🙏😩😩
@@yabooomboom keep the good quality videos you make bro👍
Hello bro I'm a new supporters
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Counter S i got 26 streaks with Counter and still using
Me with my 75 streak with smash:
Counter is good. But people that dont throw punches randomly wont get countered
@@noobatbedwars7716 ik how pros play and im making them to fall for counter
@@DEVbinance but its just not gonna work if your opponent doesent throw punches
fire vid
Ye i think slugger got a bug
😢 nahhhhhhh he forgot the focus on chronos CHRONOS SHOULD BE S TIER!!!!! WHOS WITH ME????!
Trickster🥰is🥵a🤫solid🧏🅰️ss🤨
theres no way you put counter to C tier
Im planning to update this soon, looking at this with more experience at the game, i could've ranked the styles much better
Alr so dont get me wrong im not tryna trash talk to your tier list or some but chronos at c? Basic at A? Smash at s? Handa low at s too? Like KIMURA s? I am respecting your tierlist but u look at some styles so powerfull that i have a feeling u are placing some styles that u like higher cuz chronos can't be C hes a
Kimura easily B+
Smash easily a
Counter is easily B
Hammer is easily B or even a cuz of the skill cuz u cant pd every time he's to good for it.
Basic is B ofc ur underrating some styles here and overrating
Im saying these as i tried and played atleast good amount of matches in every style.
@@Fujyyj yo bro thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏
there's a reason why Kimura's banned in most tournaments
chronos is glass without the cannon unless he's at focus with its counter damage
Basic got the damage to really compete with the others
counter take hmm yea I kinda agree with you there along with hammer
anw, will be updating this list soon since there's been a balance change last week
thanks for the thoughts my g 🙏
@@yabooomboom No problem but like if u put hands low that high i would say chonos is little bit worse then hands low so yall really sleeping on him
The hitman tho HAHQHQHQA
hitman deserves that treatment
Bro hammer is very op 💀
Ye thats right smash deserver S tier
underrated youtuber
appreciate you my dude 🙏😌
I agree longaurd is fun to use, but ironfist has the same exact range as it lol, Bullet needs a nerf because people keep spamming feint and heavy, and ippo isn't realy good charge is better factually
Hammer bodyblow was never fixed. I asked the balance team and they confirmed it, wolf m2 also has a bug that has something to do with rollback that makes white fang true. Chronos is also bugged where if you successfully pd, it counts as a hit and focus randomly turns off which makes it longer or shorter but it depends. Slugger is also bugged which makes their m2 not perfect dodgeable. Bullet's passive is barely working aswell, etc. This game is kinda buggy I cant lie
dammmmm '-'
im gonna make a "needs fixing" tier next time i update the list, thanks for this info man
yoo how'd you get in touch with the balance team btw? would be really helpful to make inquiries about the styles from time to time to prevent inaccuracies when discussing em in the future vids 🙏
@@yabooomboom You can sometimes catch them talking in the official discord server and sometimes they'd talk about bugs so sometimes I learn about new bugs about the game.
@PureEuphony wdym never fix i can dodge he hammer blow easily like an m2
@@NamelessWither just because you can doesn't mean it's fixed. That's why it's buggy, it's unpredictable. Sometimes you can dodge it, sometimes you can't. It's not acting right and interacting unpredictable.
Long guard really need a buff or rework
needs some love fr
Wait this quality is great, as a ippo main I feel hitman is BROKEN compared to in boxer styles and just bullies them keep going boom man you’re extremely underrated.
thank you so much my dude 🙏😩
GUYS LET HIM SEE THIS COMMENT PLEASE.
Mr boom boom man can I have some spins plssss I wanna get a legendary style please.
drop the @ 😌
@@yabooomboom1v1 me :D
Long Guard has pretty good damage on it's startup M1. from what I know, it is the current meta.
Is the name of yours a jojo reference by any chance?
it's actually an avatar reference ','
@@yabooomboom oooh thanks, sorry for the mishaps
Some of em ain't really where they belong tbh- but it's your ranking so who am I to argue?
brotha put half the styles in s and put some actual decent ones below b, wild.
Smash better
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@@yabooomboomthey legit sometimes spam the heavy😂
Hands low is counter but faster but also weaker
how is it weaker? the self-counter is barely noticeable and it literally has better base dmg
@@v3nomousz_ wait hands low have better base damage?
@@SellaSalbilla yeah, that's why it has less counter bonus
so basically both styles deal the same dmg when counter
@@v3nomousz_ ooh ok
I Do not need to be in the meta. Im build diferent. (counter main.)
chad 🗿
No way you ranked iron fist higher than counter😂😂😂😂
W ranking
am glad you enjoyed my g 🙏😌
counter is entirely dependent on counters the hell are you on about
it's got better base damage than the other counter styles is what i meant
it can dish out passable damage without just relying on counters
@yabooomboom I apologize if I came out as rude, yeah I took gimmicks over base dps. nice video
I feel offended as a chronos user ngl
Ghost is a B/C tier imo
ghost an easy A tier
Iron fist should be higher to s
It's c tier at best... sorry iron fist will never work against pros 😂😂.
shit dash, only carried by ult and strong m2 (which is predictable asf)
Ngl, idk if im just ass but hitman sucks, freedom also sucks
hitman's strong stat wise but it can be countered lel
freedom takes a lot of practice for someone to really tap onto its potential, i kinda suck with that style too 😵
@@yabooomboom The thing is, when i use hitman, i ran out of stamina really quickly, idk if its hitman's downsides or not but having low stamina is definitely not my playstyle
@@Moon1ght ohhhh fair fair my bro
CorkScrew user here. thank you for the S tier
date is goated
basic does more m1 dmg than wolf 🤔
GUYS I GOT CHORNOS AND FREEDOM (also freedom is my old main)
das great brother 🔥
@@yabooomboom :D
Long guard D tier 😞
I'm so sorry bro 😔
@@yabooomboom bro long guard got me to world ranked bro 😞
@@String_273HwisaHwdhz16 you have my respect bro 😔
chronos the best style to play besides being weak asf, should get some buffs fr
fr fr
One of the worst lists I have seen I don't want to be mean but this is not a valid tier list and this is coming from someone with 4k kos and 20k elo
I respect your opinion g 🗿
Shot gun I get 20 wins strik
I absolutely love the hitman style
Most of it's users are hella predictable, and who wouldn't want a free W
y'all i kinda forgot to mute some of the emote clips t-t
lol please bear w me on this vid 🙏
edit: please dont get too mad at me for the placements since i based 50 percent of em solely in my own experiences and the other half on their plain stats, all styles are viable under the right hands 🙏🙏
Mr explosiveboomboomman ty for the free unusual i apriciate you man! TYSM! (btw i was the guy named NormalDisplay thats in your server :) )
@@StikDud yoooo good to see you here mann 🙏
Hey bro, idk if that is you but if i remembered i was fighting you and i was using ghost, and i was like searching for what style that i used perfectly. Yea if that actually you well im glad i meet you bcz i finally can use the style that i perfectly use by me so ty if that is really you
Hmm I understand