I've followed your videos for awhile. I don't have a sawmill and probably never will but the excitement you show for every project is so awesome to watch.
I work on bicycles, and, the mark-up for bike tools could drive a guy to the poor house! Here and there, I have found that making or adapting existing tools saves a bunch of money. When somethings works, like your winch/drill-motor adaptation, I'm just all smiles!
If you'd squared the shaft, and inverted the socket, so the square drive engaged it, you could then have used a hex head bolt in the socket to drive it with the drill. No welding required.
niklar55 That’s a pretty good idea, but I didn’t want to permanently modify the shaft. I needed to be able to use the original hand crank for if the drill fails or dies or if a log is too heavy for it.
After seeing you struggle with loading logs in earlier videos, this was really fun to watch. Congratulations on a very clever solution. I'm sure your back will appreciate it!
Looks Great ! The older and tireded I get , the more I figure out how to save steps and effort to get more done well. Your doing great! Great project for a rainy day that will give you a low cost production jump !! Really nice looking mill !
Great idea! IF you have to make another one for any reason, get a 5/8's nut and slice two sides of it off and weld that into the socket. By using a manufactured nut you'll have the hex sides fitting better into the socket wall. As the video was progressing I kept thinking of a hex nut fitting nicely into the hex flats of the socket. Not that you'll ever need to remake the one you have. (possibly a backup adapter). #KeepTheChipsFlying, FLR!
I can't tell you how pleased I am to find this vid. Believe it or not I just bought a 3x socket drill adapters for my toe board and it never occurred to me to use it on the winch. And guess what? My winch is a hand boat winch that already has hex drives on it and has 3 of them giving you 3 constant mesh gears essentially. On the deep reduction low speed gear on the winch, if I put the drill on high speed it should just walk logs up the ramps. Also I toyed with the idea of getting a gas powered winch. They don't cost too much but heck, that idea is shelved after my good fortune of finding this LOL. I still will get a gas powered winch because when I eventually mill the wood to build the shed to put the mill in (lol), I might make a guide to line up the logs parallel to the mill and use the gas powered winch to drag them inside.
Great Hack! If I can make a suggestion if you need to do it again or others doing it for their mill. We had a similar situation and needed a 3/4" x 1/2" rectangle socket for the crank handle for a truck mounted swing lift with same type 'boat' winch. Took a couple 3/4" nuts and tacked them together stacked and ground the weld bump flat to fit socket. Then with a thin cutoff wheel split the nut off center lenghtwise and used a bench grinder to grind the flat faces on inside of cut nut halves, dropping both pieces in the socket to check fit to the shaft when grinding until we had a nice rectangle fit. Take same amount off each nut surface to keep it centered on shaft. To secure the 2 ground nut halves inserts inside the socket, we drilled 2 small holes on each side of socket, lining them up with insert nut flats and rosette welded the nut inserts to the socket wall from the outside of socket and ground smooth. There was no inside welding of socket or grinding and whole thing was all flat grinding the nut halves held with ViseGrips on a bench grinder. All the grinding was flat surface and took place outside the socket, made the job a whole lot easier and no Dremeling. Took me about 20 minutes and we used an old 6 point 3/4", 1/2" drive socket from the junk box. Can be used with an electric drill or a 1/2" ratchet. Painted it florescent orange to spot easier in the tool bag and wouldn't get lost.
I’m not sure if you still rly on this improvised socket after two years, but if I was building it, I was first cutting and separating the octagon part from the square that goes to the ratchet. Then citing the octagon to two halves. Now that the two pieces are open and facing up, I can weld it and shape it with an angle grinder. When everything fits right, you can weld back all 3 parts and you’ll have a good socket, in 15-20 minutes. Thanks for sharing!!
Cool part about using a small boat trailer for a sawmill trailer is that not only is it the right size, but it also comes with a winch and is riding on leaf springs and D-rated tires.
So you'll be crankin on the LT-15 all day long now! Really cool up-grade. Love it when folks make their own tools to make the work flow faster. Great video, thumbs up.
Hell yeah. Thanks man, this was a jackpot video for me. I have an HD-36 Norwood and I have been obsessed with trying to figure out some way to load better and this is it. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
That is very innovative and I am very impressed with your fabricating abilities. WM needs to do their own engineering now and make it easily adaptable to hold a portable drill.
Get some huge batteries. Think about making a torque post to save your wrist. You have the 2 screws on the cover you could secure your torque mount Set it up so you can use the same one for the low/high speed inputs and strap it in and still get battery on/off. Then you can make a bicycle brake cable/handle trigger puller and you have "remote" operation Then you have a 4 speed operation - low winch/1 low drill, low winch/2 high drill, high winch/1 low drill, high winch/2 high on drill. Angle the mount so when the winch is on the ground, drill is up. Probably easier to figure out the best compromise for power and speed and leave drill in that position.
I've got to admit... I was skeptical .. but that was an amazing demo... very cool.. now, a couple of 4X4's to run your logs up onto before cabling them up... also, maybe a choker knob on the end of your winch cable and a choker bell welded to the winch bracket... much easier to get under a log than a hook...
The drill was not straining at all so I don't believe drill life would be affected at all vs driving deck screws in comparison. A couple lithium batteries would easily last all day...possibly without having to use the second at all.
@@falllineridge Oh yes, stupid of me, but thanks for your reply.. must admit, your way did turn out great, no wobbling or of centre and seems the drill coped well..Best of luck.. Real name IAN, from coastal North Essex UK.keep the videos coming.. where you live is a million miles from the way I live beside the sea.
If you have a look in some tool catalogues, like snap-on (but they aren't the only ones) There are all sorts of adpators, & if i remember a 'weatherhead socket will do that job, without all the work, but all the same, great idea. Or you could have ground 2 more flats on the shaft & got a square adaptor.
If you weld a square drive (Harbor Freight Adapter set) to the inside of the winch frame, you will have a place to store the 'winch socket' when you need/want/have to use the crank. Also if you have a hooking point on the ramp side, you can use the winch to 'position' the logs without having to use the peavey or cant hook.
you have a good idea, and With your permission, i have another Idea for making an adapter. Get a nut, grind as much thread material as necessary with the die grinder. slip it over the shaft of on the winch. drill a hole through the nut and winch shaft so they line up and then tap in a " roll pin" of the corresponding size, very similar to a shear pin on an auger. that way a socket can be used without modification. and if the hex nut wears out - drive out the pin and install a new nut/pin and your off and running. keep up the good work i enjoyed watching.
hi, is that a dutton lainson winch? i use their winches and they actually do have drill adapters for their brake winches & their worm gear winches but oddly not for their pulling winches
Wow looks like that worked out great, sometimes drills come with a screw on handle that goes on the side of them it would definitely help out when the drill decides to jerk around.
Wow, that is really slick! Thanks for sharing. Could you share your source of your Water Container and how much soap you and please for blade lubricant. Thanks RC By the way I’m out in San Diego County Ca and I picked up an older LT 15 and am just getting started. I’ve been following you for a while and am learning a Bunch. I value your decent manner and solid values you quietly live.
Hello, I’m a bit late here but for your adapter you can purchase an eight point socket from tool truck and away you go!! I have some in my tool box and they sure are handy when you need one. Any ways thanks for the video’s, and keep a strain on it brother
I am surprised that so many people like you are still persisting with manual winches . I threw my manual winch away years ago and fitted a 12volt electric winch . It has a remote i can walk around the mill and adjust the log going up the ramp.. The other thing is i have a designated battery that is constantly charged by a solar panel.and want go flat . Sorry to think your idea is short term but my setup is more permanent. Cheers Rob
A cheap impact socket will eliminate the chrome and add some beef... way easier to weld. I find this is a surprisingly common improvement to adding power. I just added power lift to my popup tent trailer by welding an impact socket to the lift shaft.
Hello and Good Day Young Man, Gotta ask something. But first a little side story.. My Grandfather taught me everything concerning wood shop stuff, he had one as i was growing up and now that he has passed away and now i am 58 (UGG) i have most of his beloved tools. I always enjoy taking a fire wood piece, a log if you will and take it to the lathe and turn out some bowls, He insisted that i chip off the bark on the areas that i would be using the band saw for, taking a length wise cut, then screwing onto the face plate to the wood for turning.. He says by doing this as the tree grew, the bark will carry a lot of dirt and sand and gritty stuff in general, By removing bark his band saw blades would survive a lot longer without going through the grit. I watch and enjoy your whole adventuresome life you have, and wonder about your Blades going thru all that possible grit. Is that a concern on your milling expertise?? As always Young Man, Blessings to you and your Family, and to all the wonderful followers you have on your channel Just Me and JuneBug living life here in Beautiful Beaumont Cally
BIG GUY IN BEAUMONT CA Yes, that is a concern. If the bark easily comes off, like older pine logs, I’ll knock it off. If it’s fresh and tough to remove i leave it. Usually if the log hasn’t been dragged in the dirt I get good life out of my blades. Larger mills have a debarker option which is slick. Good story! Thanks for sharing that.
For all the work it took to make your adapter I think I would have gone to Sears (if one is still on life support in your area) and bought a 1/2" drive "Universal" (swivel) adapter and driven out the roll pin between the female end, and the center section then drill the equivalent size hole in your winch shaft and attach the female end with the roll pin you removed earlier. I would bet without checking the width is probably pretty close without any additional modifications necessary. (the center section, and male end are left-overs) The female end stays in place with the roll pin and having a 3/32" hole in your winch shaft wouldn't hurt a thing and you could always put it back the way you bought it without any adverse effects. Might take longer driving to the hardware store than the actual modification. For the record the impact hammers in your gun won't engage if there isn't sufficient resistance so considering the gear ratio of the winch and the torque of the tool I think it's unlikely a log big enough to cause the hammers to engage would even fit onto your mill at all. FYI they also make 8 sided "square drive" sockets and all you have to do is flatten your rectangle to a square with a grinder. (I'm generally not a fan of so drastic a modification unless there is absolutely no chance I ever want to return to the "old way").
next time, try a 12 point socket that fits even closer to the intended/required size. i think even and i hate to advertise for them, craftsman has specialty sockets for such odd shapes, almost like that alligator socket advertised on tv. but either way, nice job of taking what you had and making it work for YOUR needs to make life/work easier on yourself.
You might consider an impact socket , non chrome , easier to weld ? You also might consider using jb weld to fill in the back up socket ? Good to have a back up of both socket and adapter in the tool box. Great update and making it easier hack :) Just watch your wrist .... keep that drill against your leg friend . Nice time saver !
For future stuff like this, I find it easier to go get a piece of square tube that fits the inner diameter and just weld that to the socket. Only costs a couple bucks and its way easier than grinding welds with a dremal. If you cant find a piece of square tube that fits, just take a 4 pieces of flat bar, clamp them around the outside of whatever you trying to adapt too to set the inner diameter. Then weld the outsides up and the socket on. Minimal grinding and fast. I did this on my Turbosawmill.
There’s also a socket that’s advertised online the center is filled with metal pins and as you push it onto your rectangular piece the pins wrap around it and tighten onto it. What you did work though . Good effort
Nice. There must be a hell of a good reduction in that winch. I'm as surprised as you were. Oh, you'll still be tired at the end of the day. It'll be from increased production though.
Another simple way to make an adapter would be to buy another winch handle for about 15, weld something, maybe a cheap socket to it and cut the end off. Ready for your drill.
Thats a pretty slick set up using a hand winch with a drill.I'm not trying to be a pain but why are u so high up in the air..? My mill is one foot off the ground and i love it..I took the wheels off and dropped mine down as low as possible..Roll the logs the logs up my ramp with my tiny tractor..Turning them I use a come along..too much fun. Have a good one..Thanks
@@falllineridge Rather than grinding the inside of the socket, I would have been tempted to modify a steel nut in the same way you did the socket, and then choose a socket to fit the nut - it would have meant you were working with mild steel instead of the chrome, and a nut would have been cheaper than the $6 you paid for the socket! Great video & good luck!
I'd have milled / cutoff wheeled the sides off and welded some HSS for sides, puts all the sharp/bumpy bits that cause wear on the input shaft to the outside. With the torque mount you can add pieces of pipe to the mount to go around the input shafts to cover the snaggy bits. Bit of muffler tube would be perfect.
Awesome hack. I think it would be easier to take a grade 8 bolt, that the was just larger than your two flats on the winch. Grid the head of the bolt down so you can weld two flat stock on each side.Weld a small piece on each end for strength. Grid a small flat on the bolt for the drill to grab. All one piece if you choose drill small hole through all so carter pin will hold it in place so nothing to lose or misplace. You might even have all the part laying around the shop.
"F" for spelling skills.
i didnt log on to watch your spelling skills i wanna see if you have any tricks to make my lt 40 easier to handle
I've followed your videos for awhile. I don't have a sawmill and probably never will but the excitement you show for every project is so awesome to watch.
Been watching you here for the past 12 months now man and I'm addicted to your channel, continued success to you in all things!
Thank you, sir! And thanks for stopping by on the premiere chat.
I work on bicycles, and, the mark-up for bike tools could drive a guy to the poor house! Here and there, I have found that making or adapting existing tools saves a bunch of money. When somethings works, like your winch/drill-motor adaptation, I'm just all smiles!
If you'd squared the shaft, and inverted the socket, so the square drive engaged it, you could then have used a hex head bolt in the socket to drive it with the drill.
No welding required.
niklar55 That’s a pretty good idea, but I didn’t want to permanently modify the shaft. I needed to be able to use the original hand crank for if the drill fails or dies or if a log is too heavy for it.
@@falllineridge The hand crank would still work, as you're only removing the rounded parts and adding two extra flats.😊
Weld a bolt head onto it. Ever need a hand crank use a wrench or socket wrench.
Yep thats what I would of done too
After seeing you struggle with loading logs in earlier videos, this was really fun to watch. Congratulations on a very clever solution. I'm sure your back will appreciate it!
It's a great feeling when things work out the way you hope.
John O Yes it is
Looks Great !
The older and tireded I get , the more I figure out how to save steps and effort to get more done well.
Your doing great! Great project for a rainy day that will give you a low cost production jump !!
Really nice looking mill !
You thrilled all of us out here!
Great idea! IF you have to make another one for any reason, get a 5/8's nut and slice two sides of it off and weld that into the socket. By using a manufactured nut you'll have the hex sides fitting better into the socket wall. As the video was progressing I kept thinking of a hex nut fitting nicely into the hex flats of the socket. Not that you'll ever need to remake the one you have. (possibly a backup adapter). #KeepTheChipsFlying, FLR!
I can't tell you how pleased I am to find this vid. Believe it or not I just bought a 3x socket drill adapters for my toe board and it never occurred to me to use it on the winch. And guess what? My winch is a hand boat winch that already has hex drives on it and has 3 of them giving you 3 constant mesh gears essentially. On the deep reduction low speed gear on the winch, if I put the drill on high speed it should just walk logs up the ramps.
Also I toyed with the idea of getting a gas powered winch. They don't cost too much but heck, that idea is shelved after my good fortune of finding this LOL.
I still will get a gas powered winch because when I eventually mill the wood to build the shed to put the mill in (lol), I might make a guide to line up the logs parallel to the mill and use the gas powered winch to drag them inside.
Worked better than I thought it would.
Weld a socket to the winch. And weld an adapter to the crank handle. So you can use the handle when the drill gives up. Just an idea.
Great Hack!
If I can make a suggestion if you need to do it again or others doing it for their mill. We had a similar situation and needed a 3/4" x 1/2" rectangle socket for the crank handle for a truck mounted swing lift with same type 'boat' winch.
Took a couple 3/4" nuts and tacked them together stacked and ground the weld bump flat to fit socket. Then with a thin cutoff wheel split the nut off center lenghtwise and used a bench grinder to grind the flat faces on inside of cut nut halves, dropping both pieces in the socket to check fit to the shaft when grinding until we had a nice rectangle fit. Take same amount off each nut surface to keep it centered on shaft.
To secure the 2 ground nut halves inserts inside the socket, we drilled 2 small holes on each side of socket, lining them up with insert nut flats and rosette welded the nut inserts to the socket wall from the outside of socket and ground smooth. There was no inside welding of socket or grinding and whole thing was all flat grinding the nut halves held with ViseGrips on a bench grinder.
All the grinding was flat surface and took place outside the socket, made the job a whole lot easier and no Dremeling. Took me about 20 minutes and we used an old 6 point 3/4", 1/2" drive socket from the junk box. Can be used with an electric drill or a 1/2" ratchet. Painted it florescent orange to spot easier in the tool bag and wouldn't get lost.
I’m not sure if you still rly on this improvised socket after two years, but if I was building it, I was first cutting and separating the octagon part from the square that goes to the ratchet.
Then citing the octagon to two halves.
Now that the two pieces are open and facing up, I can weld it and shape it with an angle grinder.
When everything fits right, you can weld back all 3 parts and you’ll have a good socket, in 15-20 minutes.
Thanks for sharing!!
A man after my own heart.
Those drills have more power then you think !
Great video too !
Someone from a tool manufacture co will watch this and you'll see that adapter in the stores in a year. Good job
Got to luv it when a plan comes together good job 👏🏻
I was shocked!
Cool part about using a small boat trailer for a sawmill trailer is that not only is it the right size, but it also comes with a winch and is riding on leaf springs and D-rated tires.
Good job, and thank you for listening to your viewers
As you always say "theres probably a better way to do this" way to go man keep on keeping on!
Thanks for stopping by, Rylen!
So you'll be crankin on the LT-15 all day long now! Really cool up-grade. Love it when folks make their own tools to make the work flow faster. Great video, thumbs up.
Hell yeah. Thanks man, this was a jackpot video for me. I have an HD-36 Norwood and I have been obsessed with trying to figure out some way to load better and this is it. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
Great trick! Post more if you have them!
That is very innovative and I am very impressed with your fabricating abilities. WM needs to do their own engineering now and make it easily adaptable to hold a portable drill.
I'm surprised that no-one offers something like this. Seems like it would be a really good market to break into. Appreciate the kind comment, Larry.
If you want to double the power. Add a pully when pulling the heavy wet logs onto the bed
That was a good idea that will save you time & energy.
Great idea! I’ll definitely be trying it. Enjoy your channel.
Hats off to you. I like many others thought this was never going to work but if you don’t try...... nice one.
For extra grip of the log, Wrap it around the log one to two times. The cable will grip the log so It will roll straighter and resist the twist.
Great idea! And you did it without a huge cost!
That was the best part!
Get some huge batteries. Think about making a torque post to save your wrist. You have the 2 screws on the cover you could secure your torque mount Set it up so you can use the same one for the low/high speed inputs and strap it in and still get battery on/off. Then you can make a bicycle brake cable/handle trigger puller and you have "remote" operation Then you have a 4 speed operation - low winch/1 low drill, low winch/2 high drill, high winch/1 low drill, high winch/2 high on drill. Angle the mount so when the winch is on the ground, drill is up. Probably easier to figure out the best compromise for power and speed and leave drill in that position.
I did the exact same thing for our camping trailer for the stabilize jacks. make the chore so much easier!
Dave Brittain I’ve been using a socket/impact wrench on the mill jacks also. I’ll switch to the drill now. It’s amazing how much faster you can go.
Nothing like a great idea, thanks for sharing!
You're right. I've seen a lot of great ideas, and that was nothing like a great idea!
Any thoughts on switching to synthetic rope? I have it on my ATV winch and will not be going back to cable.
Ray Zickrick I’m more than open to that idea. Where did you get yours?
@@falllineridge I think it was on Amazon. $24.00 or there a bouts. Get the 7,000 or 8,000 Lb one. Best of luck to you.
Nice work. Thanks for the video.
I've got to admit... I was skeptical .. but that was an amazing demo... very cool.. now, a couple of 4X4's to run your logs up onto before cabling them up... also, maybe a choker knob on the end of your winch cable and a choker bell welded to the winch bracket... much easier to get under a log than a hook...
I was skeptical too. Thanks for the tips, Thom!
Good point, nice job and a good idea as a whole, well done
Interested in seeing how many logs you can load on one battery charge, and how long the drill will last.
The drill was not straining at all so I don't believe drill life would be affected at all vs driving deck screws in comparison. A couple lithium batteries would easily last all day...possibly without having to use the second at all.
Got to do what you got to do. Sometimes things work and sometimes not. Good idea. You have very clever and helpful viewers.........
Got to say im impressed i thought it may not have the jam to pull it up the ramp all the way either well done!
Darren Morrow Thanks, Darren! I was pretty surprised.
Standard 12 pt socket instead of six fits perfectly on square shaft. No grinding required.
Hiya, why did you not buy 2 cheap half inch drive sockets cut the hex off and weld both together ?
The 1/2" square wouldn't have fit as it was. It would have had to be ground out anyway because the winch has a rectangular shape.
@@falllineridge Oh yes, stupid of me, but thanks for your reply.. must admit, your way did turn out great, no wobbling or of centre and seems the drill coped well..Best of luck.. Real name IAN, from coastal North Essex UK.keep the videos coming.. where you live is a million miles from the way I live beside the sea.
Good stuff I think that type of socket is what's made for a well head to loosen n tighten the pit less that holds the pump n hose.
I’m impressed
didn’t think that drill would do it.
Excellent solution to help yourself
They also make sockets for square nuts and bolts. I even own a few made by Sears
I love this channel
Personified Regret Thank you!
If you have a look in some tool catalogues, like snap-on (but they aren't the only ones) There are all sorts of adpators, & if i remember a 'weatherhead socket will do that job, without all the work, but all the same, great idea. Or you could have ground 2 more flats on the shaft & got a square adaptor.
That’s going to save you arm and shoulder congrats the mills looking up
I think so too, thanks!
That’s slick as snot right there!
Worked like a charm. Nice job
If you weld a square drive (Harbor Freight Adapter set) to the inside of the winch frame, you will have a place to store the 'winch socket' when you need/want/have to use the crank. Also if you have a hooking point on the ramp side, you can use the winch to 'position' the logs without having to use the peavey or cant hook.
you have a good idea, and With your permission, i have another Idea for making an adapter. Get a nut, grind as much thread material as necessary with the die grinder. slip it over the shaft of on the winch. drill a hole through the nut and winch shaft so they line up and then tap in a " roll pin" of the corresponding size, very similar to a shear pin on an auger. that way a socket can be used without modification. and if the hex nut wears out - drive out the pin and install a new nut/pin and your off and running. keep up the good work i enjoyed watching.
hi, is that a dutton lainson winch? i use their winches and they actually do have drill adapters for their brake winches & their worm gear winches but oddly not for their pulling winches
BOY YOU SURE DID THAT THE HARD WAY
Wow looks like that worked out great, sometimes drills come with a screw on handle that goes on the side of them it would definitely help out when the drill decides to jerk around.
That's a great idea 🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍
You can put a log hook on the cable and turn your bigger logs on the mill as well. Check out Norwood as they have one.
Wow, that is really slick! Thanks for sharing.
Could you share your source of your Water Container and how much soap you and please for blade lubricant.
Thanks
RC
By the way I’m out in San Diego County Ca and I picked up an older LT 15 and am just getting started. I’ve been following you for a while and am learning a Bunch. I value your decent manner and solid values you quietly live.
Got a winner there bud!
If you take a 1/2 socket extension, cut off one and put into the drill the other end should fit the drive input to the winch.
You need to check out 'parbuckling', ancient technique that's still just as useful today.
Would making the ramps longer reduce the power needed in exchange for longer loading time?
Alan L. Simmons Most definitely.
Great video of DIY Log Milling Hacks that's working smarter not harder. I Just found your Channel and subbed Thanks for sharing.
Team Stucker Thank you!
Good video, great idea, I would suggest a blanket or something over the wire rope in case it snaps. cheers for now
Hello, I’m a bit late here but for your adapter you can purchase an eight point socket from tool truck and away you go!! I have some in my tool box and they sure are handy when you need one.
Any ways thanks for the video’s, and keep a strain on it brother
I have a question what is the diameter of your wheels on the mill and what is the circumference of your blades? Thanks Marc G.
I am surprised that so many people like you are still persisting with manual winches .
I threw my manual winch away years ago and fitted a 12volt electric winch .
It has a remote i can walk around the mill and adjust the log going up the ramp..
The other thing is i have a designated battery that is constantly charged by a solar panel.and want go flat .
Sorry to think your idea is short term but my setup is more permanent.
Cheers Rob
That is awesome I'm doing that too brilliant that is cool I have a sawmill too
A cheap impact socket will eliminate the chrome and add some beef... way easier to weld. I find this is a surprisingly common improvement to adding power. I just added power lift to my popup tent trailer by welding an impact socket to the lift shaft.
I wonder if using JB Weld to adapt the socket to the wench handle would work. Just remove the socket and JB weld before it sets up.
Nice Job!
Hello and Good Day Young Man, Gotta ask something.
But first a little side story..
My Grandfather taught me everything concerning wood shop stuff, he had one as i was growing up and now that he has passed away and now i am 58 (UGG) i have most of his beloved tools. I always enjoy taking a fire wood piece, a log if you will and take it to the lathe and turn out some bowls, He insisted that i chip off the bark on the areas that i would be using the band saw for, taking a length wise cut, then screwing onto the face plate to the wood for turning.. He says by doing this as the tree grew, the bark will carry a lot of dirt and sand and gritty stuff in general, By removing bark his band saw blades would survive a lot longer without going through the grit.
I watch and enjoy your whole adventuresome life you have, and wonder about your Blades going thru all that possible grit.
Is that a concern on your milling expertise??
As always Young Man, Blessings to you and your Family, and to all the wonderful followers you have on your channel
Just Me and JuneBug living life here in Beautiful Beaumont Cally
BIG GUY IN BEAUMONT CA Yes, that is a concern. If the bark easily comes off, like older pine logs, I’ll knock it off. If it’s fresh and tough to remove i leave it. Usually if the log hasn’t been dragged in the dirt I get good life out of my blades. Larger mills have a debarker option which is slick. Good story! Thanks for sharing that.
For all the work it took to make your adapter I think I would have gone to Sears (if one is still on life support in your area) and bought a 1/2" drive "Universal" (swivel) adapter and driven out the roll pin between the female end, and the center section then drill the equivalent size hole in your winch shaft and attach the female end with the roll pin you removed earlier. I would bet without checking the width is probably pretty close without any additional modifications necessary. (the center section, and male end are left-overs) The female end stays in place with the roll pin and having a 3/32" hole in your winch shaft wouldn't hurt a thing and you could always put it back the way you bought it without any adverse effects. Might take longer driving to the hardware store than the actual modification.
For the record the impact hammers in your gun won't engage if there isn't sufficient resistance so considering the gear ratio of the winch and the torque of the tool I think it's unlikely a log big enough to cause the hammers to engage would even fit onto your mill at all.
FYI they also make 8 sided "square drive" sockets and all you have to do is flatten your rectangle to a square with a grinder. (I'm generally not a fan of so drastic a modification unless there is absolutely no chance I ever want to return to the "old way").
You should do another video to let us know how much battery power you use up to cut as much as you do!
REALLY a great idea!
next time, try a 12 point socket that fits even closer to the intended/required size. i think even and i hate to advertise for them, craftsman has specialty sockets for such odd shapes, almost like that alligator socket advertised on tv. but either way, nice job of taking what you had and making it work for YOUR needs to make life/work easier on yourself.
Now there's a You Tuber that really knows how to "LOG ON".
Nice.
You might consider an impact socket , non chrome , easier to weld ? You also might consider using jb weld to fill in the back up socket ? Good to have a back up of both socket and adapter in the tool box. Great update and making it easier hack :) Just watch your wrist .... keep that drill against your leg friend . Nice time saver !
I would fabricated a bracket of sorts the holds the drill in place for that reason, or try using an impact driver.
Hey they got a one-size-fits-all socket you know one with the little bars in it or rods and what are you going to call it I'm just saying
For future stuff like this, I find it easier to go get a piece of square tube that fits the inner diameter and just weld that to the socket. Only costs a couple bucks and its way easier than grinding welds with a dremal. If you cant find a piece of square tube that fits, just take a 4 pieces of flat bar, clamp them around the outside of whatever you trying to adapt too to set the inner diameter. Then weld the outsides up and the socket on. Minimal grinding and fast. I did this on my Turbosawmill.
Good idea, thank you!
There’s also a socket that’s advertised online the center is filled with metal pins and as you push it onto your rectangular piece the pins wrap around it and tighten onto it. What you did work though . Good effort
Did you try and 8 point socket
Do you know what the gear ratio is on the winch.
Next rainy day add a bracket so the drill's torque won't brake your wrist! Basically a tab for the drill handle to sit against.
Nice. There must be a hell of a good reduction in that winch. I'm as surprised as you were. Oh, you'll still be tired at the end of the day. It'll be from increased production though.
Jim Willoughby I can deal with that!
I am amazed at your amazement! Amazing what gear reduction can do, huh?
Another simple way to make an adapter would be to buy another winch handle for about 15, weld something, maybe a cheap socket to it and cut the end off. Ready for your drill.
What no super fast fwd log cut so we can see the beautiful bounty for that work.
How can you protect/prevent the cable from being crushed, pinched, or fouled by the logs rolling over it against the log deck rail?
That's pretty cool. It's time for me to start making and selling those, LOL. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thats a pretty slick set up using a hand winch with a drill.I'm not trying to be a pain but why are u so high up in the air..? My mill is one foot off the ground and i love it..I took the wheels off and dropped mine down as low as possible..Roll the logs the logs up my ramp with my tiny tractor..Turning them I use a come along..too much fun. Have a good one..Thanks
That genius man should patent that
Welding a nut onto the square shaft and increasing the socket size would be an easier and faster option.
Clever and much time to do something else. Awesome 👏
I would have started with a hex nut to fit my socket and reduced it to fit. Just saying.
David Sutton That would work great, but I didn’t want to permanently attach a nut to the winch.
@@falllineridge Not what I meant. Cut sides from the nut to fill in the socket and weld them in. No grinding.
David Sutton Ah gotchya...that’s a good idea.
@@falllineridge Rather than grinding the inside of the socket, I would have been tempted to modify a steel nut in the same way you did the socket, and then choose a socket to fit the nut - it would have meant you were working with mild steel instead of the chrome, and a nut would have been cheaper than the $6 you paid for the socket! Great video & good luck!
I'd have milled / cutoff wheeled the sides off and welded some HSS for sides, puts all the sharp/bumpy bits that cause wear on the input shaft to the outside. With the torque mount you can add pieces of pipe to the mount to go around the input shafts to cover the snaggy bits. Bit of muffler tube would be perfect.
Awesome hack. I think it would be easier to take a grade 8 bolt, that the was just larger than your two flats on the winch. Grid the head of the bolt down so you can weld two flat stock on each side.Weld a small piece on each end for strength. Grid a small flat on the bolt for the drill to grab. All one piece if you choose drill small hole through all so carter pin will hold it in place so nothing to lose or misplace. You might even have all the part laying around the shop.
That's an ripper solution mate Cheers