@@nutli839 Well, time has proven that his analysis is less than accurate. Hence how could one trust him to make any economic projections? I certainly would not. He did not have full facts when he analyzed this case and this hinders his credibility severely.
Quite a bit of misinformation in this analysis - one must understand that many of the so called "his fans" stirring up trouble have always been cp fans and the leading cp fans actually work for the infamous company YH. Also, many of "his fans" are disguised fans or paid to work for his competitors. With this in mind, this is clearly a case of a plot to jeopardize fair market competition which amounts to a very serious legal issue had it happened elsewhere.
Spoken like a fan. This material is not an analysis of the fan community, and I suspect that the author, like most normal people, doesn't see the difference between solo and CP fans, and that's the main problem continuing to this day. CP fans are a niche who say they like the actor, but actually like their fantasies about his romance. These people do not support the actor, only their fantasies. They may even believe they support the actor, but they only do so when the actor intentionally or accidentally fits into their fantasies. If an actor like XZ refuses to play with CP fans, they become envious because they believe the actor is deceiving them, that he is denying the truth. CP fans shout that they love him and are often louder than the actor's fans, but they sabotage anything that doesn't involve their CP faith. It's just that normal passersby have no way to distinguish one from the other, so they consider everyone a fan of the actor.
@@shinaxia7474 True, and this kind of cp mentality and net attitude leave room for whoever plotted 227 to play with. As for this author, in many ways he represents the final struggle of 227, as much as he would like to portray himself as a rational analyst, his facts are much less than exhaustive and his reasoning could not sustain any further probing
I am a corporate finance lawyer , also worked on entertainment law, drafting contracts for film production house. Your program is really interesting covering CF and entertainment , even though I don’t agree 100%.. I have other perspectives too on the popularity of him and Yibo… what ever happens, I feel both Yibo and Xiao Zhan have earned their places not only in the Chinese entertainment industry , but , as a “ name card “ to go beyond China , they have and will continue to play their parts as being “ iconic “. Let’s check on them in 10 years , I believe they will stay and not 糊掉：） keep up your good work .. and thank you 🙏
Деньги,деньги,деньги... Мне как простому зрителю абсолютно наплевать на коммерческую сторону развлекательного бизнеса. Для меня главной ценностью является получение удовольствия от того, что я вижу на экране или читаю в интернете ,что позитивно влияет на меня и затрагивает мою душу. Сяо Чжан представляет собой самое лучшее проявление светлой стороны современной китайской культуры. Меня возмущает стремление его опорочить и принизить его духовную ценность различными интригами в целях собственного обогащения!
This video is nightmarishly long, especially for someone who doesn't know Chinese and has to read the little subtitles, but it was worth watching. Very interesting analysis. I might disagree with a few points, but I agree with most. A reflection on the 227. the whole incident that was aimed at XZ hit a ricochet and collapsed the whole fan club system in China. Angry youngsters wanted to destroy someone they don't like and blamed XZ fans for all the fan club crimes, it's just that people on the sidelines, passersby if you will, are not blind and noticed that all houses have the same dirt. The 227 was one big hypocrisy on the part of the fan clubs attacking XZ, and that was noticed. People were outraged not at Xiao Zhan and his fans, but at the entire fan community. Yes, the XZ was beaten in public, but already in 2021 idols began to imitate the XZ and pass on to their fans what he passed on to his fans in July 2020. 227 was the biggest shot in the knee that the fan clubs of other stars could have taken, and now everyone is collectively suffering because there are no rankings, no votes, and their idols do not receive the title of most popular this or that. Congratulations!
Out of curiosity ... I assume you are not in China and do not understand Chinese. How did you know about the 227 drama so well? And I thought that 227 affected only idols and fans in China...
@@xinyizhang8776 I'm not from China, I'm not Chinese, I'm Polish. I've been watching c-drama since 2018, but I'm not a fan of any actor. I liked a few and Xiao Zhan was one of them. Our Song won my heart and I watched new episodes on YT every week, although there was no translation. Xiao Zhan has tons of fans around the world and is actually the most popular Chinese next to Jackie Chan. Of course, The Untamed, but not only that. All his dramas are loved and available on YT. I found out about 227 two hours after the apology was posted by XZ Studio. One YT channel gave a translation and tried to explain what was going on. This whole situation was absurd. I couldn't believe that the entire internet suddenly went crazy, because apart from China, also a lot of paid accounts were destroying XZ's reputation on YT, TW, FB, IG. So I watched it from the beginning and saw the fans of XZ being beaten. I myself have been attacked many times only because I tried to convince people that this violence did not make sense and that it would turn against them. Because, firstly, this novel offended all morality and violated the rights of XZ and WYB as a human being, and secondly, AO3 worked, only at that time it moved to another server and users could log in to their accounts, they only had to use a different address. AO3's temporary shutdown was planned and an English announcement was on AO3 as early as December 2019, only of course Chinese children do not read English-language announcements from the administrator. So already on March 4 it was known that all this hatred was unfounded, and yet it was constantly fueled. This was not the usual anger of the children, because that would burn out after a few days, and in fact many aggressors retreated after their anger was over, but the remaining professional black accounts that logged in during working hours, provoked war, always used the same pointless arguments. People really like Xiao Zhan all over the world and consider him the showcase of China. Many people went to China, especially to Qongqing, to see the country that XZ sings so beautifully, and if it weren't for the pandemic, China's tourism would flourish at this point thanks to XZ fans. Stores outside of China began bringing in goods advertised by XZ (especially in Canada), and many American fans flooded Netfliks with requests for XZ drama. I know The Untamed was on Netflix. Luxury brands such as GUCCI, Zenith, Tod's boast about cooperation with XZ on Western platforms. As strange as it sounds, many people have started to look more favorably on China because it was China that gave birth to and shaped Xiao Zhan. If someone as good as Xiao Zhan loves his country, this country can't be bad, right? All in all, lots of people around the world support Xiao Zhan. Each of his drama is widely discussed on Western social media and the platforms that share his drama always earn a lot of money, because each of his drama is a global hit. XZ is simply a great young gentleman who embodies the classic Chinese beauty and charms us like a prince on a white horse. Not only in China, Xiao Zhan's fans cried during 227. As XZ is China's best showcase in the world, 227 was China's worst showcase. When China boycotted XZ, the world boycotted c-ent. Only after the premiere of The Wolf, fans allowed themselves to watch something more. XZ is simply the most influential Chinese artist outside of China and one of the most influential in the world. Fans in many countries are still organizing charity events in the footsteps of Chinese Xiao Fei Xia.
@@shinaxia7474 wow that's very interesting story from another point of view. Thank you for the explanation. However, there's one thing about AO3, I'm pretty sure it is banned in China mainland. The same way RUclips is, you can't access to the website unless you use a foreign VPN. And at same time imagine that when you open social media and see XZ's fans saying how lovely their idol is. I can understand that was outrageous for someone, and because they could do nothing about it they went attacking the idol because of the hate towards part of his fans.... there were hate from both sides and because people are hiding behind the 'Fans' the whole group took the blame. Unfortunately you can't reverse a bad image by simply saying that not all from the group are bad.
@@xinyizhang8776 If you're comparing AO3 to YT, then either before 227 AO3 was officially inaccessible and users used some workarounds, or this whole incident brought the site to the attention of the authorities. In March 2020, I saw reports of Mainland China people who, out of curiosity, went to AO3 (meaning there was access to the site, although I don't know if through a VPN or normally) and analyzed the content of the site. Most of the texts (I won't give a % because I can't remember) were pornography, hardcore erotica involving minors, non-consent and more edgy numbers. While fanfics involving fictional characters may be distasteful but people turn a blind eye to it, if you use real people and describe how they have kinky sex, it's a bit... unsavory. Someone who defended such "freedom of speech" told me at the time: "AO3 is like a pornhub, you don't want it, don't watch it" so I asked if that person would be happy if someone put her, or her mother, or her sister on such a site. As you can guess, I didn't get an answer. The fact is that at the end of February AO3 was temporarily unavailable due to the transfer of content to another server. The fact is that at the beginning of March, Chinese people from Mainland China were able to access AO3, as they were shown accessing the site. I understand that XZ fans were and probably are annoying, I'm sick of them myself and don't consider myself a fan although I like XZ, but not being able to access an illegal porn site shouldn't cause such mass aggression. What these people did was simply appalling. The enormity of mindlessness, hatred and blind retaliation. No one checked what really happened or why, everyone started hating and hurting the innocent actor. XZ fans were arrogant, agree, annoying, of course yes, but other groups of fans were not innocent either, and no one shouted that their idol must pay for their faults. The editor-in-chief of the Prosecutor Daily did a journalistic investigation proving that XZ fans did not report AO3, but he was quickly silenced and his Weibo account closed. In my opinion, XZ flopped because someone wanted to destroy him before he become more popular, exploited the technical issues on AO3 and put all the blame on XZ fans. The angry, pandemic-scared crowd mindlessly started destroying everything. Most normal people came to their senses within a few days. When I talked to them, it was clear that they were frustrated, helpless and looking for someone to blame, but eventually their anger passed. There were, however, accounts (some of whom have already gone to court and suffered punishment) that were deliberately scrambling and making things up to destroy XZ and his fans completely. These accounts attacked anyone who dared to ask for reason. I understand that you can dislike someone, but how can you participate in mass violence knowing that the victim is innocent? If the idol was supposed to be in charge of his fans, where were the idols of the fans who abused Xiao Zhan? Were they not equally or even more disqualified? But no other idol paid for the behavior of fans, for this unprecedented violence against XZ and his fans. Is this what justice in the c-ent looks like? I have never used aggression online, but I was insulted just for standing up for Xiao Zhan. Do you mean to say that the people who attacked me had the right to do so because they believed that some arrogant XZ fan caused shut down access to an illegal pornographic site? If these people applied collective responsibility, why didn't they themselves follow the law they imposed and they, along with their idols, suffered the consequences? Why everyone pointed out that people were buying Guang Dian, and no one saw that fans of other idols were fundraising en masse to break the record for the fastest-selling song? Because when everyone took XZ and his fans under the microscope, the others could feel impunity. Believe me, I've seen more than one disgusting filth that had nothing to do with XZ and his fans, but someone wanting to distract attention from his own scandal dragged XZ into everything. His fans were afraid to open their mouths lest their words be twisted and used against him and some fan clubs specialized in exactly that. After all, public enemy number one is there to blame for everything. By the way, it's not just China that doesn't have access to certain sites or channels on YT. But somehow no one thinks that fans of an idol are to blame and they don't attack him for that. That would just be ridiculous.
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巫師分析的很深入.從頭認真聽到尾.不管如何我們都認為肖战的自律和正能量再加上他的毅力.著實在現代年輕人中是極少數的存在.光這種人品就值得我們去喜愛他支持他.
我們都是群奶奶粉级的人了.肖战也是我們此生唯一願意粉的明星人物
227之前我完全不知道肖战是谁，227的时候我觉得肖战完全是无妄之灾，肖战的粉丝也是无妄之灾，群体为若干个体负责任这不是连坐吗？更何况这种粉丝哪个当红明星没有？有哪个明星管住了？但是事情发展远远超过我的估计。。。。即使是大家苦饭圈久矣，为什么这个雷会完完全全爆在肖战身上呢？别人和别人的粉丝全都干干净净，只有肖战和肖战粉丝有问题？我总觉得这个事情跟阅文吴文辉/程武交替造成内部混乱，以及阿里的适时操作有关。另外这是刚开始全国封控的时候，所有人都闲的发毛，再加上资本的引导。。。。真是天时地利人和。。。。
总之，我现在很开心肖战又回来了，每次看到他的各种微博开屏什么的都很高兴。非常非常非常佩服他，他的内核太冷静强大了。希望渡劫成功的肖战越来越好呀～
视频看完，觉得是哗众取宠。肖战没那么复杂，网暴者也没那么无辜。这充分体现中国网民的无脑，低素质和无底线。我从不过分解读肖战。他就像你，我，他一样。在洪流中身不由已，但还坚持着低线
他不应該叫战，－直都要战斗
必须辟谣一下，官方没有说“偶像失格”。相关事件的讨论在检查日报的“法辩”栏目，“偶像失格”只是在检察日报众多评论中一篇提到（作者为某娱乐公司法律从业者），其他文章也有完全不同的观点。关于“偶像失格”的定性，检察日报官方还专门发文做了澄清。
我记得检查日报的社长还专门写了一篇文章，可惜被网暴犯们逼的删博退网了
是的，当时去看了那几篇报道，各自不同立场。但是，立刻所有营销号统一口径“偶像失格”，一看就是有组织的打压。
你谈到了很多，可能也是为了你的饭碗，你没有谈到其实227确实是有对家资本在运作，后来也露出一些马脚。
不是露出了一些马脚，是露出了很多马脚，大富贵事件，晨小晨事件，还有其他大大小小的马脚
227就是對家打擊肖戰早就設下的陷阱，這後來都陸續被扒出來了，所以肖戰跟他的粉絲都是受害者，哪來什麼錯，小編根本沒弄清楚就出來長篇大論的胡扯一通，就是蹭熱度賺流量的營銷號！
他就是故意摘除乐华，想把责任都推到肖战身上，夹带私货罢了。
เมื่อไรคนเลวถึงจะหมดไปจากโลกนี้เสียทีนะ..
我这个小姐姐也刚刚开始喜欢肖战，以前真不理解这人为什么有那么多女孩子追捧成这样。分析的挺不错，肖战本身看似憨憨还是很务实这点，确实凸显和其他顶流的不同
他最難得的是.他很聰明.但也很自律.不會被娛樂圈的歪風影響.
抛开内容不说，这一期视频的画面确实是有史以来最养眼的一期。哈哈哈，往期的都可以闭眼听，这一期的甚至经常看走神了就没仔细听。。。
作为曾经混过几年饭圈的人表示，粉丝都是在官宣的时候把销量充满，粉丝永远只认自己家的偶像跟着偶像走，不是任何品牌的死忠粉和长期客户，官宣长时间后的购买力没有像官宣日那么高的持续下去可太正常了，这不应批评，换个角度想，各品牌想合作一次超级顶流就保证了一辈子荣华富贵（销量以后永远持续第一），想什么好事呢😂
粉圈太乱了，要是肖战振臂一呼粉圈乖乖听话，那他也就危险了… 打工人何苦为难打工人呢
经典评论
文中提到代言當時提高的聲量和銷量之後斷層下跌云云閣下是財經博主代言人不就是提高聲量讓人注意到產品提升人氣至於之後的銷售量還是要經營團隊自己努力不然肖戰直接任CEO好了
说白了！就是你肖战占了太多流量！蛋糕别人吃不到！所以啊！羡慕妒忌恨
我也是kcp大群中一员 确实看出xz粉丝特别惜命 讲八卦都小心翼翼，确实是陪偶像经历过风雨的人😂😂😅😅
長達快一小時的視頻，我以為能看更深入的觀點，但整個非但沒分析出啥，空幹話更是又多又長😅
要知道肖戰背後的資本，就要跟王一博的資本一起對照看就很明顯，騰訊跟阿里的對弈明明白白。
真相了
不是肖战的粉丝，但是非常喜欢博主的三观和眼界，这文案太有深度了，这么有深度的文案，怎么看的人这么少呢，心疼一下！
关心经济的谁会看这些娱乐圈的，看到这些网红明星毫无兴趣
他夹带了一点私货。关于恶性竞争直接略过，还有肖战的商业价值被他贬低了。
感觉作为财经圈的 博主虽然努力在网上撷取了一些资料，但仅限于肤浅的表象，对于227发生的原因已经后续恶性竞争的发展，一笔带过，说的不深刻也不全面，还不如亲身经历的粉丝自己的理解深刻。看似面面俱到却没有多少干货，还是以博主滤镜解读这一复杂事件，当然无法引起大部分粉丝的思考和共鸣。
@@nutli839 Well, time has proven that his analysis is less than accurate. Hence how could one trust him to make any economic projections? I certainly would not. He did not have full facts when he analyzed this case and this hinders his credibility severely.
但是看评论不觉得害怕吗。。。粉丝都站出来说博主蹭热度或227事件本身说的有误。。。可是正常人关注这个博主不就是因为正确的三观和理性的商业分析么。所以综上感觉还是有些遗憾，也更惊讶于优质的内容没被共鸣和提及，炸出来一堆一言难尽。。。。
謝謝, 對於“肖戰粉絲” 的理解, 確是很多披皮的. 真的粉絲是理性的, 有智慧的！ 再者, 那些有悔辱性的同人小說（ 女化, 弱化肖戰）, 投訴是網民的權利, 也是責任, 沒有不妥, 只是被黑勢力利用, 發拷.
明白人。说的好，必须给你点赞👍👍
本来很期待这一期的，但是看完很失望。巫师一直是很有干货的，为什么在这个人这里躲躲闪闪？很多网上直接可以看到的东西都忽略了，深入的东西也没讲出来。很想知道背后的东西，看来是没机会了。本来喜欢含光君的，但是因为227粉了肖战。一个是因为良心和一个旁观者的是非观，另一个是因为这个男人真是刚，佩服。
没有讲这事的人能概括所有，能听up讲这么多我也满足了。你说的对，人都是复杂的，我接受复杂， 甚至喜欢，希望肖战以后顺顺利利
我觉得抛开227事件的本身只谈资本少了点什么。肖战当时不道歉恰恰是正确的做法，一来他是受害方法律上是被侵犯姓名肖像权的一方，他认错就是对国家那几年的普法唱反调。二来 墙网站的是国家网管局做的，他一个艺人要代表国家向看黄网的网民道歉？他要这么做了以后正剧资源想都不要想。而且在中国资本是政府掌控，一个行业的兴衰都是看政府政策。比如2015年左右影视资金开始收紧，开始所有国资背景的投资公司不在做影视方面的投融资业务了，比如信托产品等融资渠道全部被禁，少了资金渠道影视艺人公司才那么挺而走险，作对赌争资源。他当年道歉了也没有用，因为这盆脏水就是要泼他的，他只能坚持底线，保住他真正的粉丝群体，试着向正剧资源靠拢。
影片聽起來肖戰好像一直在討好粉絲、不敢得罪粉絲，其實在我看來肖戰的格局絕對比這還大。道歉這件事像你說的不只是侷限在粉絲層面，更是牽涉到了國家政策問題。肖戰說他不贊成管理粉絲這詞，也不是因為他認為粉絲是甲方，不敢得罪，而是他懂得感恩，這是兩種完全不同的態度。同時，他是務實的明白人，但絕對不是投機份子，否則也不會在他第二個窗口期消失在大眾跟前，跑去演了一年的話劇沈澱自己。
你说的对，越来越多的事情让人们开清楚，中国资本算个屁，不和当政者合作，既当不了资本，当了资本也要吐出来。马云完美诠释。博主我都怀疑是收钱办事。只有网民被政府和资本两方愚弄，指那打那。至于肖战，他就是自己。他一点都不失格，失格的是主流媒体。引导发酵网暴攻不可没
你們真看得起他，😂
@@君韩 确实是个让人看得起的人
嚯～火盆
有时候想想某网站被墙，到底明星方应该承担什么责任？对不起没管好粉丝？粉丝连他们父母的话都不听，听偶像的？对不起网站因为粉丝被墙了？为什么被墙？哦，被上面发现了？发现了啥？网站违法…你怎么发声？发个鬼声。
我是在那个事件之后才知道肖战这么大影响，之前只知道是个男偶像。这波操作让我这个路人对他很有好感。粉丝就是衣食父母，人不能吃完摔碗骂娘，他做的可以。
提純也是罵，只是那群體太小，他就沒有尊重
陈情令认识肖战的，当时也是喜欢的不得了。他出歌我买了，出电影出剧我也看了，但是打榜转投？？不行我还有自己的事情要做，这种形式的支持我不会也从来没做过。后来他突然被全网骂，甚至到了你说你喜欢肖战就会被阴阳怪气的时候，我也取关了一阵。后来慢慢骂声淡下去了，看了几集他的新剧，又觉得香得不行。传说中的227事件，一堆人包括粉丝让他发声，他能说啥啊，也没什么能说的吧，反正说什么都是得罪人，还不如不说。就像巫师讲的，当时那一句谈恋爱等于失业也觉得这个人很清醒。觉得最近几部剧也确实不错，长得好看演技也不拉胯，反正没事看看帅哥演的戏，我自己挺舒坦的。但是现在是我这种佛系喜欢肖战的都会被人指指点点，是着实有点魔幻了。
Yes, he is.
227本来肖战就没有错呀。那个文章我也看了，是黄文所以符合国家清网才给墙了，网站在墙外还是好好的文章也没删。他的粉丝只是推了一把让政府墙的快点而已。但是当时黑他的人的确是有组织的，后面应该是资源的争夺。在他之后我再也没有追哪个内娱的明星了，觉得内娱恶心。不过可能因为清网这一系列的原因他最近和正剧走的比较近了。也是不错的。
所以，227 主事者成功了阿！至少 2020 他們吃飽喝足了。
其实有两点，就我本人说，一开始就不觉得肖战好看，但是陈情令里的魏实在是太让人心疼了。上一个我这么移情的角色还是小燕子。
二就是227事件，有点像父母越反对的对象越相爱。这事本来肖战本人没做错什么，本人还被写小黄文，试着让任何一个女明星被写小黄文还闹这么大，简直社死。别说我为什么说女明星，因为没几个人写男明星的。有也别告诉我，谢谢。
个人不混粉圈，但是觉的他这事上挺委屈的，所以能支持就支持下
我喜歡肖戰正向積極的生活態度，
低谷時不自怨自艾精進自己，高峰時也謙虛低調做人。
理解巫师的重点是在资本方面，但把227的着眼点放在肖战粉丝方面不如再放大一圈，放在肖战周围的其他资本上。227黑子的重要组成部分是王一博粉丝，他的公司乐华娱乐也有对赌协议，尝试上市了好几次，在上市的文件里可以看到20,21年好几个亿的主要收入是王一博带来的，而为什么呢，是因为当时作为cp的另外一方肖战正处于舆论漩涡中，对于商家而言，选择另外一个是差不多的，这也就是巫师在视频里提起来的广告被p成另外一个人的原因。王一博方在这个cp中吃到了大量的红利，所以在其他黑子势力撤退的时候，他们不愿放弃，继续用cp捆绑着肖战。还有巫师提到的官媒定性，那个文章是约稿，而不是官媒自己的观点，相反检查日报的社长表达了完全不同的观点，于是被网暴退网，声音消失了，巫师不妨查一下，那个提出偶像失格的律师是哪家公司的律师呢？还有227中出现的大量的女权账号都是哪一方的呢？究其原因就是利益，巨大的利益，所以巫师敢不敢把这些个利益链讲一讲呢，如果你敢讲，那我佩服你。
"巫师不妨查一下，那个提出偶像失格的律师是哪家公司的律师呢？" 你以為他不知道？
@@wr8636 唉，这不是提醒一下嘛，他不想说，大家也知道的啊😄
你说的这些有事实依据吗？没有的话就是招摇！
@@tiffanyxie6864 怎么会没有证据，这些都是网上公开的信息，多少人都查过了
@@lx5414 网上公开的就是肖战粉丝啊！哪有这么多阴谋，真不是肖战粉丝别人能把这么大的帽子扣上？没完没了的！
各位這個報導 聽聽就好對家的黑營銷號
小編對227真的是完全沒去搞清楚就長篇大論的胡說八道，事件真相早已人盡皆知了，你還在指責抹黑肖戰和他粉絲，真讓人懷疑你是不樂華家的營銷號，還是收了他們什麼好處吧！我要不是從227開始一路看事件發展過來，對事件非常了解還真會被你的長篇佐料給忽窿了！
做個善良的人吧！賺錢也不該違背良心亂說話！
從小哥哥昨晚發的連結才進到這裡來,他的視頻太長我懶得看,只是把肖戰和背後資本掛勾的都不是好東西，如果有資本就不會至今還被造／謠／網／暴了。
還有很好笑的事，這個影片下方竟然還有桶進來長篇大論安利他家心肝，影視寒冬，真的進組才是王道，不然吹再多、同一篇文貼再多都沒有用。
视频很长，不过认真的看完了，认同巫师的观点是只有一个人商业价值决定了资本是不是继续用你，而肖战用他本身优秀的业务能力，也就是作品吸引了越来越多的人，而他本身的确是一个清醒的明白人，知道自己要的是什么，并且非常自律的为之努力。
肖战怎么火起来的，这一点我并不同意巫师的观点，他并不算完全因为耽改火的，恰恰相反是因为这个剧因为他火起来了，所以资本觉得是因为耽改，急急忙忙地以这个为营销方向，但是拉低了整个剧的格局，后来更是因为王一博方没有分到更多的蛋糕，所以把主流奖项的机会给撕没了，至少我看这个剧的时候并不知道什么是耽改，同时也很多人因为这个题材而不想看剧。据我所知肖战大量的粉丝都是227之后为了三观支持他的，而不是所谓的耽改粉。
在227的起因上巫师是不是应该把眼光再放大一点，看看肖战以外的周围的资本。肖战粉丝当时大量涌入，其中很多其他的批皮，反串，当时牵头举报微博链接的大粉后来被证实和黑子联系紧密。如果巫师再深入的了解一下227事件，就会知道227的词条在227之前就已经建立好了，明显就是有预谋的恶性商业竞争。而后来的王富贵事件，和晨小晨还有教师事件，明显能看出来其他的利益方的身影。如果巫师能够深挖一些他们身后的利益链，你会有很多惊喜。而整个227说到底就是资本的争夺和博弈，肖战创造的这块蛋糕很多人想抢而已，而不是这一次就是下一次。
@Lx 很認同你的說法, 巫師對227暸解得不夠深入！
巫師對227根本就是胡說八道！
@@yunglily6461 所以我很推荐巫师去仔细考古一下227的时间线，比如说cp超话的建立时间是2019年的4月由王一博粉建立的，而这个cp的名字是由王一博的另外一个cp变化而来，至于为什么要下大量脂粉引导，运营这个cp，到后来王的公司乐华官方正式认领了这个cp，什么原因大家自己想吧。
@@lx5414 若227不是商業惡性競爭, 肖戰也不會報刑事案而也立案啦！只是這種案很難有證據, 所以清朗力度才在227後更加大了！ 巫師只是很表面知道227起因/過程, 主要在經濟角度去談肖戰~
@@yunglily6461 的确，他的着眼点在肖战粉丝怎样怎样，一看就没有深入了解过，凡是了解过的人怎么能错过讲227的各个黑子的组成部分和他们的背后资本呢，或者是他心里明白，但是不敢讲罢了。
肖战就像金手指小说男主那么有魅力，我可以读他一辈子
小編知道肖戰是怎樣保護粉絲，為粉絲所做的那些事嗎？你了解他們受到的是怎樣的傷害嗎？你根本就不了解，還是故意胡說八道替誰甩鍋抹黑肖戰和他粉絲的！
小編還是去仔細了解內情再來吠吧！黑心錢賺了會被反噬的喔！
他這是 227 最後的掙扎。妳聽他說話要死不活的，虧心話說多會損氣。
@@wr8636
對啊！
同意，我今天又有朋友转发这个视频给我看，还说他说的很客观。把我气的脑仁子痛
非常贊同影片的觀點，227那時候那個"全網黑"真的很瘋狂，不知道的還以為肖戰把整部刑法的罪都犯了個遍，大概還挖人祖墳呢，呵呵
某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
* 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
* 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
我之前是小飞侠，但是现在回归生活了。太佩服巫师了！分析的好详细而且中肯，非常有深度。
算是肖战路人粉，2020年11月才听说227，不喜陈情令但喜欢肖战。这个视频解说的有道理，所有人都是工具人，粉肖战，也是普通人在娱乐圈找个相对有共鸣的明星喜欢而已。
在我眼里，227事件同时也是我从路人成为粉丝的一步，尽管我是在12月份才正式入坑，但是因为227事件，我不忿于肖战在此事付出的代价之深，所以会关注他。但是真的成为他的粉丝还是因为他每次出现他的脸都好好看(也算作品了😀)。
他好看只能说你审美很戛纳搞了
我也是
@@pengsong8977 我也确定他的脸是我喜欢的，我不看电视剧看他的脸就会有很愉悦的感觉，身体的感受最诚实
@@ffghcg4105 好吧……
2019底开始关注肖战，从而开始关注内娱。出国20+年，从开始只看美剧到回归内娱。所以错过许多，有断层，50+ 才知道有“饭圈”。227让我诧异，扑天的恶意，颠倒黑白，断章取义。作者说大家把对饭圈的恶意发泄到肖战粉丝上可以理解。在看过耽改3.0，张那么快销声匿迹之后，我也赞同作者所说227是为了提纯。但说227是肖战想提纯，不敢苟同。227到底是谁想提纯，看谁的团队更有经验（作者也说了227出来，肖的团队不知所措， 挖机机哇已经跟肖对簿公堂，相反王的团队，copy韩娱，组CP，拆CP，各种手段驾轻就熟。王在肖之前炒了无数CP。据说bjyx，以前是博君一潇，程潇的潇。），看227最后谁得利最多，（227之前，陈情令到底谁获得更多利益，到底谁想提纯，最后谁又真的得到利益），我坚持我的怀疑，王才是227企图提纯的一方。2019年底到2020年出，我自己曾经也是CP粉。如果不是当时那么多花絮，我肯定不能成为CP粉。没看过小说，刚看剧的时候，只会注意肖战，王真是一个不起眼的角色。但是在花絮中，在剧后宣传中，王凸显出来。我就是这样成为了CP粉。说王的团队组的CP，没人怀疑吧。无论227是否是月华开始的，但我严重怀疑月华借着227提纯，作者也说了，本来227开始都是些饭圈小事，但是最后闹到世人皆知，不清楚多少家介入，企图阻止肖战成为顶流，但月华肯定介入了。
227之后，我只是肖战粉丝。在美国，没有办法买光点，托国内侄女买的。那一个亿里也有美国50+老阿姨的一份。我公司同事都知道我喜欢肖战，老公孩子也知道。我很骄傲。看过他很多采访，三观一致。如果我有资本，我也投资他，有才有貌，踏实肯干，双商在线。投资他，肯定赚。内鱼如果都多投资这样的人，才能有前途。
作者提到的老师在课堂，学校推荐肖战。227风平浪静之后，才露出来很多其他偶像其实也有。王有，最早的三人偶像团体也有。不比肖的少。但是227，那些参与的资本就只提肖战，而且网暴素人，提一句肖战，就可能丢工作。其他偶像都有资本护体，我同样看到照片视频做同样的事情，但是就不会大肆宣扬。我觉得作者有一点是对的，成年人谈的都是利益。肖战陈情令前后，肯定有资本看到他的价值，向他伸出橄榄枝。但是227出现之后，资本犹豫了，因为刚刚构成的同盟还不牢固，碰上这么大的风暴，就退缩了。所以才有了当时新丽划清界限。无可厚非，利益第一。
看了直播，幾點感想：
1，小楊震的扮演者王鴻立（？）已是翩翩少年了，長得也好看，祝他一切順利，平安健康喜樂。
2，所有人一致認為一博是卷王之卷，包括李導與劉偉強。劉偉強說一博沉默寡言，但碰到做不好的，就會一直去練習直到做到好為止。不愧是一博：濃墨重彩地做，雲淡風輕地說。
3，一博進入電影圈的緣份，應該是始於傅東育。合作《冰雨火》時傅導相當欣賞一博，把他拉去演《抉擇》裡的蔣先雲。為了演好蔣先雲，大冷天又下著雨，一博堅持扛50公斤（？）的木頭在泥裡雨裡爬滾了好幾個小時。最後在大禮堂蔣先雲與老蔣決裂的那段演說，鏗鏘有力、擲地有聲，幾年前看時，的確被震撼到了。
據說，是該導演將一博推薦給《維和》的李導。李導明顯欣賞一博，將他推薦給了于冬，于冬又薦給了程耳。程導說當時旁邊的人給他推薦了幾人個年輕演員，他聽過一博但不知道他長什麼樣，他讓助理把這幾位年輕演員的照片給他看。
據說，其他年輕演員都是妥妥民國定妝照，只有一博是一張賽車服的假寐照，只看得到上半張臉。程耳卻選了一博，因為：他的氣質就像是那個年代走出來的。
程耳透過黃磊約了一博見面，程耳說一博話不多，他覺得這樣更好。《無名》第一個訂下的演員是一博。
一博原本戲份並不多，但由於一博地快速融入其中，一邊拍一邊寫劇本的程耳將葉生的戲份愈加愈多。
4， 我對《熱烈》頗有疵議，陳爍追夢的過程著墨不夠多，好幾個陳爍情緒感染力非常好的片段，正片裡都被剪掉了。但，非常謝謝製片陳祉希慧眼視英雄，將一博推薦給了姚導，才有了扣人心弦的精彩好劇《追風者》。雖然我對沈圖南的結局意難平，仍然是部好劇，有時代的波瀾壯闊，有弄堂的市井煙火，有家國大事，有師徒情長。總的來說，比《繁花》、《狂飇》更餘韻無窮。我雖喜歡王家衛美學，但提不起勁看第二遍《繁花》。《追風者》卻是當我想要有些感性時，可以回頭重溫，特別是前四集、和師徒二人互動的幾個片段。
5，一博參加創造101時，黃子滔說他就是喜歡一博這種不爭不搶的個性。一博在《天天向上》如此受哥哥們喜歡，多多少少也得諸於一博不爭不搶、多做少說的個性吧。一博真正做到了孔子所說的「君子欲訥於言、敏於行。」或許也正因為如此，在一個爭名奪利、削尖了頭的娛樂圈，一博卻以不爭不搶、訥於言敏於行，既結福緣又逢貴人。
一博沒資本靠山，一博就是自己最佳的資本靠山：實力，是別人永遠拿不走的。
6，一博，常保赤子之心，一路繁花盛開，永遠的美少年，平安健康喜樂。
7，認識一博不到四年，這個孩子在四年內拿出一張如此璀璨的影視成績：無重複角色，每一部戲都表現得可圈可點，每一個角色都能在神態氛圍氣質神韻上與劇中人切合、讓觀眾絲滑代入。
一博舞蹈有天賦，演繹方面的天賦，亦不遑多讓。凱薩琳赫本曾對剛入行、賣力表演的安東尼霍金說：不要演。從2020年夏天認識藍忘機和王一博，除了《有匪》，看了他所有的影視作品，堪稱是潤物細無聲的演繹方式：化身劇中人、行其所行、思其所思，神韻氣質氛圍神態與角色吻合。是以，魏若來與《熱烈》裡的陳爍雖同樣來自底層、懷抱夢想，但因個性截然不同，魏若來身上，就完全看不到陳爍的影子。一個是三分靜氣，三分霸氣，三分殺氣，一分痞氣的金融天才，一個是被生活壓得喘不過氣、流露著點點自卑與怯怯的青年。
8，下面這段話，深得我心：「年輕一代個人看好王一博，半年看了他參演的三部電影。可塑性強，張弛有度，可靜可動，宜古宜今。外型與氣質兼備，謙虛有禮聰明有悟性。既可行走時尚前沿，又可融入日常煙火。純粹真摯赤誠有青年朝氣，寵辱不驚無懼徧見黑白，沉心靜氣執行力強，態度端正行穏致遠，真正做到了「訥於言，敏於行，慧於心」。他的綜合素質和內在驅動達成模式，一定會讓他走得更遠。祝福。」
聊xz 可见巫师多想红😂😂😂
巫师财经背后的资本运作
咱就说 这不就是陈情令讲的故事的现实版么
没毛病，还真是。。。
喜欢一个人不需要理由❤
视频看完了，这个视频甚至影响到我对自己人生以及世界的认知。感激巫师让我看到以前未曾看到过的星空
好长。还是看完了。我觉得肖战不管是因为脸也好还是实力也好，确实具有暴风吸粉的能力。内娱人层出不穷，砸过机会连个响都没有的比比皆是。他能断层绝对不是某个单一要素能决定的。但他个人经历也确实过于魔幻现实加天选了😂
这么长居然看完了，没一句废话。厉害
Quite a bit of misinformation in this analysis - one must understand that many of the so called "his fans" stirring up trouble have always been cp fans and the leading cp fans actually work for the infamous company YH. Also, many of "his fans" are disguised fans or paid to work for his competitors. With this in mind, this is clearly a case of a plot to jeopardize fair market competition which amounts to a very serious legal issue had it happened elsewhere.
Spoken like a fan. This material is not an analysis of the fan community, and I suspect that the author, like most normal people, doesn't see the difference between solo and CP fans, and that's the main problem continuing to this day.
CP fans are a niche who say they like the actor, but actually like their fantasies about his romance. These people do not support the actor, only their fantasies. They may even believe they support the actor, but they only do so when the actor intentionally or accidentally fits into their fantasies. If an actor like XZ refuses to play with CP fans, they become envious because they believe the actor is deceiving them, that he is denying the truth. CP fans shout that they love him and are often louder than the actor's fans, but they sabotage anything that doesn't involve their CP faith. It's just that normal passersby have no way to distinguish one from the other, so they consider everyone a fan of the actor.
Complete agree!
@@shinaxia7474 True, and this kind of cp mentality and net attitude leave room for whoever plotted 227 to play with. As for this author, in many ways he represents the final struggle of 227, as much as he would like to portray himself as a rational analyst, his facts are much less than exhaustive and his reasoning could not sustain any further probing
我不会为这事再跟别人争论，但是我会用自己的钱为我为肖战投票😊
56分钟？？？？？太顶了，赞。无论作品如何运作，作为演员的锚肖战还没有立住，显然他作为一个聪明人肯定是知道的，但是就算他立刻去进修演技，他之后能走到哪里，到底有没有这个天赋，之后是否会遇上更好的作品还是一切未知。
突然发现，评论里也都是肖战粉丝，清晰见证了视频里说的评论区战斗力
肖战粉丝也是人也是观众，不妨看看他们的黑粉是怎么构陷辱骂他们的吧，换谁都忍不了
…… 本肖战粉丝现在都佛了…… 不过你都提到肖战粉丝了就进来留个言。 希望肖战粉丝们都赶紧脱粉，我想看场话剧每一次都抢不到票…… 卷的有些厉害
@@mama0823 因吹斯汀
因为喜欢的人多。而且不相信爱是生命终极追求的人理解不了肖战和粉丝
粉丝是观众也是人，不会被营销号两三句就带偏。227怎么发生的，绝不是这么简单。
一副众人皆醉我独醒,说别人二极管定义他人,你不是也在规训自己粉丝!说这不能断人财路,跳b站又跳字节你不也是利已有什么好立牌坊的!
哈哈哈哈。
@Tiannan Xiang 人类就是无处不在，别拿粉丝扣帽子了。以为人都不会分析问题吗？不过是分析的角度而已。看这营销号为谁卖命罢了。
分析的太好了。227事件出来的时候我压根就不知道肖战这个人，陈情令也没看过，就记得当时新闻闹的很大，就多少吃了点瓜。最大的感受就是：这个肖战也太TMD惨了。他明明啥都没干就要对这个负责对那个负责，还要被各种人身攻击都不敢吱声。我极其讨厌这种乌烟瘴气的舆论氛围，就没再继续关注了。还好后面肖战发展的还不错。
Emmmmm 期待你未来分析肖战的第二期吧 也许那个时候他自己已经是资本本身了
整个事件下来我觉得肖战真的聪明人 点都踩得很对 但凡换个人早在路上死八百回了。其实从他学生时代就有苗头 挺能折腾一个人 双商皆高 就算不出道当明星也不会太失败。他当时面临的粉丝问题其实是明星偶像产业的共同问题 他按照传统的套路处理了 但是他的粉丝群体太大战斗力太强悍，所以免不了被反噬。这件事情他能做的不多 只能承担结果，毕竟也没有一个参照物或者上帝视角教给他完美的解决方案
还有从这件事情上学习到的是 对于已经对你抱有成见的人不必去费心讨好挽回😅 认清谁是真正对你重要的人才能互相成就
你沒去搞清楚事件的真相，小編更是故意附和黑子來誤導不知真相的網友，事情早在2020年就已被查清楚是王一博粉絲披皮搞的陰謀，還披皮肖戰粉絲到處搞事甩鍋給肖戰，這些網路上有很多資訊可查到，小編不是收錢故意抹黑，就是不用心蒐集資料不敬業的營銷號！
@@silveatzeng0820 你闭嘴吧 到处叭叭xz就是被你这种人招黑的
@@Yolande0
妳不想搞清楚真相就跟著黑子把污水潑向肖戰粉絲，我為什麼不能澄清讓眾人知道真相，難道肖戰粉絲就該一直被栽贓陷害不能為她們辯解，妳這是哪門子道理？
這個結論的潛台詞就是：中國是個沒有法治的國家？別人非法侵犯你的權利，你偶像的姓名權 ⋯ 妳也只能逆來順受？其實黑手只是趁著疫情中犯事罷了。
太精彩了
他是真的帅，而且台词功力相当强。
先说一下我自己不算肖战粉丝吧。看过魔道祖师/原著很多年了，感觉肖战在陈情令里演绎的不错。也没关注227，很久之后，是好奇怎么再不见肖战这个新面孔后，查了发生的这一堆事情，反倒开始关注他。看过肖战的一些综艺和访谈，觉得巫师说的对肖战的评价很中肯，正是因为肖战出道不易，才且过且珍惜。成熟或者说事故是把双刃剑，能感觉肖战在宣传时候的言语不算是很出彩，但是言辞上算谨慎认真。至于说到他一路走来，肯定不能像巫师分析的这么专业，但是说到两件大事：1. 在当初陈情令这样的双男主耽改剧是什么肯定大火的好资源？只是因为当时肖战资历和底子不够厚罢了。2. 227事件中，管理粉丝/控粉不当？只是因为肖战资历和经验不足罢了。毕竟肖战真正站在圈里，或者说被这么多人关注到也不过几年而已。写了这么多总归有两个呼吁：1. 肖战本人颜值在线，演技/工作也是认真/踏踏实实打工人吧。只要是他能稳住心态，不走极端触不犯法律或者道德败坏，还是期待他能够在未来多创作一些好作品的。2. 希望大家理智追星，也理智反追星，不参与网暴。网暴一时爽，带来的痛苦悲剧和悔恨却是真实长久的。
不懂就问 这事不是肖战粉丝网暴二次元吗？变成反追星网暴肖战来了 笑死
@@Fenggelin
某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
* 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
* 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
分析的很精彩！期待更多视频👍
簡單地說，一個無背景，無後台的演員突然爆紅，職場大忌，引至對家和資本利字當頭紛紛下場廝殺，韓娛，內娱經常上演的戲碼，猶幸當事人經得起考驗，不然早已灰飛煙烕，手段真是心狠手辣都是利益
你的三观好正！！！好喜欢你的内容输出
我觉得你对"227"事件的分析有欠公允和不严谨, 可能是不想得罪Ali,YH...的资本。肖战因为自身的真诚善良和能力, 才使得大量的三观路人下场成为小飞侠或陪伴粉, 这些人中大部分人经济富裕, 不追星, 不开微博, 只为陪肖战走完娱乐圈。
真诚善良实在太虚了
纯路人 已经吐了
虽然不太了解韩娱，权志龙是很火的。我也期待小编的X第三弹，几年以后也行，咱能等。但是每一年或者每三年换一次顶流（以前我是相信的）的说法，已经被肖战打破了，看了小编的资本博弈篇，肖战这几年真的很不容易，他自身够好，才是他这几年一直顶流的底气。
必须给你留言，喜欢内容，喜欢中立。
终于出长视频了，等了好久
粉丝本来就是衣食父母啊，演员管理观众，歌手管理听众么？不知何时流行了暴力对待粉丝反而是正确的。没有粉丝，偶像价值等于零，而且粉丝个体的失误也不宜推责于整个群体。
感谢巫师，英文也精彩
巫师真的我男神哈哈哈哈哈
感觉这个才是巫师自己做的视频，之前那个几分钟十几分钟直接切断的视频，感觉实在是太乱了，看完了，啥都没记住
就说两句。第一，没有刻意的提纯。第二，没有举报过ao3。
我也感觉他团队没有刻意的提纯，但确实是不太敢和粉丝硬刚，不敢得罪唯粉，也不敢得罪cp粉，毕竟两个群体的量都不小，能带来的利益也不小。。。
绝对举报了，墙是铁证。所以我到现在绝对不买olay和dw。因为他们不仅无差别扫射。还威胁我写同人的太太和提了一两句墙的作者。
@@backmoonchen8801 震惊了。中国墙了那么多网站，你告诉我这就是举报的证据？？？小小百姓举报啥就墙啥是吗？你倒是找一个ao3被举报的有效证据来啊？靠自己的臆想和推论做证据吗？而且你说的她们是谁啊？具体哪个扫射谁了？难道不是同人圈的一些人把事情闹大了吗？如果你认识的人被威胁了，那应该针对威胁者报警啊。那些没有威胁的为什么要一起被骂？
ao3这个事你怎么不怪墙呢？不要光捡软柿子捏。而且，举报ao3违反了什么国家的那一条法律法规？举报者是个人，为什么要所有粉丝群体甚至肖战本人为此负责？
@@backmoonchen8801
沒舉報, 是海外的, 去哪裡舉報啊?
我第一次看将近一个小时的短视频还不觉得长
不知道会不会做813 什么时候做 什么时候又能播出来了😊
53:00 这女明星谁呀？好美
围观了整个227 作为路人从没觉得肖战有什么错 长得也挺好看 但粉丝饭圈一套话语体系看多了让人厌恶
I am a corporate finance lawyer , also worked on entertainment law, drafting contracts for film production house. Your program is really interesting covering CF and entertainment , even though I don’t agree 100%.. I have other perspectives too on the popularity of him and Yibo… what ever happens, I feel both Yibo and Xiao Zhan have earned their places not only in the Chinese entertainment industry , but , as a “ name card “ to go beyond China , they have and will continue to play their parts as being “ iconic “. Let’s check on them in 10 years , I believe they will stay and not 糊掉：） keep up your good work .. and thank you 🙏
你不認識, 王一博團隊一直在經營CP, 因他只能值CP粉兢金！
看了直播，幾點感想：
1，小楊震的扮演者王鴻立（？）已是翩翩少年了，長得也好看，祝他一切順利，平安健康喜樂。
2，所有人一致認為一博是卷王之卷，包括李導與劉偉強。劉偉強說一博沉默寡言，但碰到做不好的，就會一直去練習直到做到好為止。不愧是一博：濃墨重彩地做，雲淡風輕地說。
3，一博進入電影圈的緣份，應該是始於傅東育。合作《冰雨火》時傅導相當欣賞一博，把他拉去演《抉擇》裡的蔣先雲。為了演好蔣先雲，大冷天又下著雨，一博堅持扛50公斤（？）的木頭在泥裡雨裡爬滾了好幾個小時。最後在大禮堂蔣先雲與老蔣決裂的那段演說，鏗鏘有力、擲地有聲，幾年前看時，的確被震撼到了。
據說，是該導演將一博推薦給《維和》的李導。李導明顯欣賞一博，將他推薦給了于冬，于冬又薦給了程耳。程導說當時旁邊的人給他推薦了幾人個年輕演員，他聽過一博但不知道他長什麼樣，他讓助理把這幾位年輕演員的照片給他看。
據說，其他年輕演員都是妥妥民國定妝照，只有一博是一張賽車服的假寐照，只看得到上半張臉。程耳卻選了一博，因為：他的氣質就像是那個年代走出來的。
程耳透過黃磊約了一博見面，程耳說一博話不多，他覺得這樣更好。《無名》第一個訂下的演員是一博。
一博原本戲份並不多，但由於一博地快速融入其中，一邊拍一邊寫劇本的程耳將葉生的戲份愈加愈多。
4， 我對《熱烈》頗有疵議，陳爍追夢的過程著墨不夠多，好幾個陳爍情緒感染力非常好的片段，正片裡都被剪掉了。但，非常謝謝製片陳祉希慧眼視英雄，將一博推薦給了姚導，才有了扣人心弦的精彩好劇《追風者》。雖然我對沈圖南的結局意難平，仍然是部好劇，有時代的波瀾壯闊，有弄堂的市井煙火，有家國大事，有師徒情長。總的來說，比《繁花》、《狂飇》更餘韻無窮。我雖喜歡王家衛美學，但提不起勁看第二遍《繁花》。《追風者》卻是當我想要有些感性時，可以回頭重溫，特別是前四集、和師徒二人互動的幾個片段。
5，一博參加創造101時，黃子滔說他就是喜歡一博這種不爭不搶的個性。一博在《天天向上》如此受哥哥們喜歡，多多少少也得諸於一博不爭不搶、多做少說的個性吧。一博真正做到了孔子所說的「君子欲訥於言、敏於行。」或許也正因為如此，在一個爭名奪利、削尖了頭的娛樂圈，一博卻以不爭不搶、訥於言敏於行，既結福緣又逢貴人。
一博沒資本靠山，一博就是自己最佳的資本靠山：實力，是別人永遠拿不走的。
6，一博，常保赤子之心，一路繁花盛開，永遠的美少年，平安健康喜樂。
7，認識一博不到四年，這個孩子在四年內拿出一張如此璀璨的影視成績：無重複角色，每一部戲都表現得可圈可點，每一個角色都能在神態氛圍氣質神韻上與劇中人切合、讓觀眾絲滑代入。
一博舞蹈有天賦，演繹方面的天賦，亦不遑多讓。凱薩琳赫本曾對剛入行、賣力表演的安東尼霍金說：不要演。從2020年夏天認識藍忘機和王一博，除了《有匪》，看了他所有的影視作品，堪稱是潤物細無聲的演繹方式：化身劇中人、行其所行、思其所思，神韻氣質氛圍神態與角色吻合。是以，魏若來與《熱烈》裡的陳爍雖同樣來自底層、懷抱夢想，但因個性截然不同，魏若來身上，就完全看不到陳爍的影子。一個是三分靜氣，三分霸氣，三分殺氣，一分痞氣的金融天才，一個是被生活壓得喘不過氣、流露著點點自卑與怯怯的青年。
8，下面這段話，深得我心：「年輕一代個人看好王一博，半年看了他參演的三部電影。可塑性強，張弛有度，可靜可動，宜古宜今。外型與氣質兼備，謙虛有禮聰明有悟性。既可行走時尚前沿，又可融入日常煙火。純粹真摯赤誠有青年朝氣，寵辱不驚無懼徧見黑白，沉心靜氣執行力強，態度端正行穏致遠，真正做到了「訥於言，敏於行，慧於心」。他的綜合素質和內在驅動達成模式，一定會讓他走得更遠。祝福。」
@@baobaosafehealthy
*某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
* 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
* 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
Me too@@baobaosafehealthy
讲的很好，观点很正
只能说明他背后的团队很厉害，他本人也很明白很配合。
**某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
** 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
** 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
強！
终于看到对227事件的合理言论了
以及xz的另一个护城河是颜值😂 外加相较于同类偶像出身明星更突出的业务。他还不红的时候其实就因为颜值出圈是糊中顶流了😂只是娱乐业就是赢者通吃 他这样的只能分点渣渣。不是靠媚粉立人设对金主而言便宜好用就行的 ，能做到这样的明星爱豆大把大把😂 再砸钱营销也不能打造出第二个xz
脸在江山在😂
闹了一整，耽改全凉了，偶像行业也急速降温～都图什么
我一直怀疑巫师的声音是ai生成的 😂😂😂
好家伙一个小时 有的听了
大袄师
为什么一个好好的财经频道最后变成讲明星八卦。我服。
评论都是肖战粉丝啊。。只有我是巫师粉丝么😌
粉丝有两个，黑子居多。我是粉巫师也喜欢肖战的😅
博君一肖由樂華運營😂227也是樂華協調的😊肖戰實際上是替中國政府背鍋了😅
Blind!
@@luckycteo8027
看了直播，幾點感想：
1，小楊震的扮演者王鴻立（？）已是翩翩少年了，長得也好看，祝他一切順利，平安健康喜樂。
2，所有人一致認為一博是卷王之卷，包括李導與劉偉強。劉偉強說一博沉默寡言，但碰到做不好的，就會一直去練習直到做到好為止。不愧是一博：濃墨重彩地做，雲淡風輕地說。
3，一博進入電影圈的緣份，應該是始於傅東育。合作《冰雨火》時傅導相當欣賞一博，把他拉去演《抉擇》裡的蔣先雲。為了演好蔣先雲，大冷天又下著雨，一博堅持扛50公斤（？）的木頭在泥裡雨裡爬滾了好幾個小時。最後在大禮堂蔣先雲與老蔣決裂的那段演說，鏗鏘有力、擲地有聲，幾年前看時，的確被震撼到了。
據說，是該導演將一博推薦給《維和》的李導。李導明顯欣賞一博，將他推薦給了于冬，于冬又薦給了程耳。程導說當時旁邊的人給他推薦了幾人個年輕演員，他聽過一博但不知道他長什麼樣，他讓助理把這幾位年輕演員的照片給他看。
據說，其他年輕演員都是妥妥民國定妝照，只有一博是一張賽車服的假寐照，只看得到上半張臉。程耳卻選了一博，因為：他的氣質就像是那個年代走出來的。
程耳透過黃磊約了一博見面，程耳說一博話不多，他覺得這樣更好。《無名》第一個訂下的演員是一博。
一博原本戲份並不多，但由於一博地快速融入其中，一邊拍一邊寫劇本的程耳將葉生的戲份愈加愈多。
4， 我對《熱烈》頗有疵議，陳爍追夢的過程著墨不夠多，好幾個陳爍情緒感染力非常好的片段，正片裡都被剪掉了。但，非常謝謝製片陳祉希慧眼視英雄，將一博推薦給了姚導，才有了扣人心弦的精彩好劇《追風者》。雖然我對沈圖南的結局意難平，仍然是部好劇，有時代的波瀾壯闊，有弄堂的市井煙火，有家國大事，有師徒情長。總的來說，比《繁花》、《狂飇》更餘韻無窮。我雖喜歡王家衛美學，但提不起勁看第二遍《繁花》。《追風者》卻是當我想要有些感性時，可以回頭重溫，特別是前四集、和師徒二人互動的幾個片段。
5，一博參加創造101時，黃子滔說他就是喜歡一博這種不爭不搶的個性。一博在《天天向上》如此受哥哥們喜歡，多多少少也得諸於一博不爭不搶、多做少說的個性吧。一博真正做到了孔子所說的「君子欲訥於言、敏於行。」或許也正因為如此，在一個爭名奪利、削尖了頭的娛樂圈，一博卻以不爭不搶、訥於言敏於行，既結福緣又逢貴人。
一博沒資本靠山，一博就是自己最佳的資本靠山：實力，是別人永遠拿不走的。
6，一博，常保赤子之心，一路繁花盛開，永遠的美少年，平安健康喜樂。
7，認識一博不到四年，這個孩子在四年內拿出一張如此璀璨的影視成績：無重複角色，每一部戲都表現得可圈可點，每一個角色都能在神態氛圍氣質神韻上與劇中人切合、讓觀眾絲滑代入。
一博舞蹈有天賦，演繹方面的天賦，亦不遑多讓。凱薩琳赫本曾對剛入行、賣力表演的安東尼霍金說：不要演。從2020年夏天認識藍忘機和王一博，除了《有匪》，看了他所有的影視作品，堪稱是潤物細無聲的演繹方式：化身劇中人、行其所行、思其所思，神韻氣質氛圍神態與角色吻合。是以，魏若來與《熱烈》裡的陳爍雖同樣來自底層、懷抱夢想，但因個性截然不同，魏若來身上，就完全看不到陳爍的影子。一個是三分靜氣，三分霸氣，三分殺氣，一分痞氣的金融天才，一個是被生活壓得喘不過氣、流露著點點自卑與怯怯的青年。
8，下面這段話，深得我心：「年輕一代個人看好王一博，半年看了他參演的三部電影。可塑性強，張弛有度，可靜可動，宜古宜今。外型與氣質兼備，謙虛有禮聰明有悟性。既可行走時尚前沿，又可融入日常煙火。純粹真摯赤誠有青年朝氣，寵辱不驚無懼徧見黑白，沉心靜氣執行力強，態度端正行穏致遠，真正做到了「訥於言，敏於行，慧於心」。他的綜合素質和內在驅動達成模式，一定會讓他走得更遠。祝福。」
某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
***央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
_(:з」∠)_ “谁知道命运里所有馈赠都在暗中标好了价格” 文案里面事情前因后果都还没交代清楚 干嘛念诗
肖战的这种代言特点，其实更适合冲一波的专款，卖完就撤。
Деньги,деньги,деньги... Мне как простому зрителю абсолютно наплевать на коммерческую сторону развлекательного бизнеса. Для меня главной ценностью является получение удовольствия от того, что я вижу на экране или читаю в интернете ,что позитивно влияет на меня и затрагивает мою душу. Сяо Чжан представляет собой самое лучшее проявление светлой стороны современной китайской культуры. Меня возмущает стремление его опорочить и принизить его духовную ценность различными интригами в целях собственного обогащения!
厉害 讲得很透彻
务实的明白人，太准确了。
完全不追星的人 看完这篇竟然觉得被圈粉了
想问巫师几岁。。。我比肖战小但是不知道肖战是谁
说的没错，227肖战的事儿在娱乐圈算个p啊
某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
** 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
** 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯
这里就有个华点，还没有爆火高龄的不红艺人，他怎么在最开始搭上新丽的船的？
This video is nightmarishly long, especially for someone who doesn't know Chinese and has to read the little subtitles, but it was worth watching. Very interesting analysis. I might disagree with a few points, but I agree with most.
A reflection on the 227. the whole incident that was aimed at XZ hit a ricochet and collapsed the whole fan club system in China. Angry youngsters wanted to destroy someone they don't like and blamed XZ fans for all the fan club crimes, it's just that people on the sidelines, passersby if you will, are not blind and noticed that all houses have the same dirt. The 227 was one big hypocrisy on the part of the fan clubs attacking XZ, and that was noticed. People were outraged not at Xiao Zhan and his fans, but at the entire fan community. Yes, the XZ was beaten in public, but already in 2021 idols began to imitate the XZ and pass on to their fans what he passed on to his fans in July 2020. 227 was the biggest shot in the knee that the fan clubs of other stars could have taken, and now everyone is collectively suffering because there are no rankings, no votes, and their idols do not receive the title of most popular this or that. Congratulations!
Out of curiosity ... I assume you are not in China and do not understand Chinese. How did you know about the 227 drama so well? And I thought that 227 affected only idols and fans in China...
@@xinyizhang8776 I'm not from China, I'm not Chinese, I'm Polish. I've been watching c-drama since 2018, but I'm not a fan of any actor. I liked a few and Xiao Zhan was one of them. Our Song won my heart and I watched new episodes on YT every week, although there was no translation. Xiao Zhan has tons of fans around the world and is actually the most popular Chinese next to Jackie Chan. Of course, The Untamed, but not only that. All his dramas are loved and available on YT.
I found out about 227 two hours after the apology was posted by XZ Studio. One YT channel gave a translation and tried to explain what was going on. This whole situation was absurd. I couldn't believe that the entire internet suddenly went crazy, because apart from China, also a lot of paid accounts were destroying XZ's reputation on YT, TW, FB, IG. So I watched it from the beginning and saw the fans of XZ being beaten. I myself have been attacked many times only because I tried to convince people that this violence did not make sense and that it would turn against them. Because, firstly, this novel offended all morality and violated the rights of XZ and WYB as a human being, and secondly, AO3 worked, only at that time it moved to another server and users could log in to their accounts, they only had to use a different address. AO3's temporary shutdown was planned and an English announcement was on AO3 as early as December 2019, only of course Chinese children do not read English-language announcements from the administrator. So already on March 4 it was known that all this hatred was unfounded, and yet it was constantly fueled. This was not the usual anger of the children, because that would burn out after a few days, and in fact many aggressors retreated after their anger was over, but the remaining professional black accounts that logged in during working hours, provoked war, always used the same pointless arguments.
People really like Xiao Zhan all over the world and consider him the showcase of China. Many people went to China, especially to Qongqing, to see the country that XZ sings so beautifully, and if it weren't for the pandemic, China's tourism would flourish at this point thanks to XZ fans. Stores outside of China began bringing in goods advertised by XZ (especially in Canada), and many American fans flooded Netfliks with requests for XZ drama. I know The Untamed was on Netflix. Luxury brands such as GUCCI, Zenith, Tod's boast about cooperation with XZ on Western platforms. As strange as it sounds, many people have started to look more favorably on China because it was China that gave birth to and shaped Xiao Zhan. If someone as good as Xiao Zhan loves his country, this country can't be bad, right?
All in all, lots of people around the world support Xiao Zhan. Each of his drama is widely discussed on Western social media and the platforms that share his drama always earn a lot of money, because each of his drama is a global hit. XZ is simply a great young gentleman who embodies the classic Chinese beauty and charms us like a prince on a white horse. Not only in China, Xiao Zhan's fans cried during 227. As XZ is China's best showcase in the world, 227 was China's worst showcase. When China boycotted XZ, the world boycotted c-ent. Only after the premiere of The Wolf, fans allowed themselves to watch something more.
XZ is simply the most influential Chinese artist outside of China and one of the most influential in the world. Fans in many countries are still organizing charity events in the footsteps of Chinese Xiao Fei Xia.
@@shinaxia7474 wow that's very interesting story from another point of view. Thank you for the explanation. However, there's one thing about AO3, I'm pretty sure it is banned in China mainland. The same way RUclips is, you can't access to the website unless you use a foreign VPN. And at same time imagine that when you open social media and see XZ's fans saying how lovely their idol is. I can understand that was outrageous for someone, and because they could do nothing about it they went attacking the idol because of the hate towards part of his fans.... there were hate from both sides and because people are hiding behind the 'Fans' the whole group took the blame. Unfortunately you can't reverse a bad image by simply saying that not all from the group are bad.
@@xinyizhang8776 If you're comparing AO3 to YT, then either before 227 AO3 was officially inaccessible and users used some workarounds, or this whole incident brought the site to the attention of the authorities. In March 2020, I saw reports of Mainland China people who, out of curiosity, went to AO3 (meaning there was access to the site, although I don't know if through a VPN or normally) and analyzed the content of the site. Most of the texts (I won't give a % because I can't remember) were pornography, hardcore erotica involving minors, non-consent and more edgy numbers. While fanfics involving fictional characters may be distasteful but people turn a blind eye to it, if you use real people and describe how they have kinky sex, it's a bit... unsavory. Someone who defended such "freedom of speech" told me at the time: "AO3 is like a pornhub, you don't want it, don't watch it" so I asked if that person would be happy if someone put her, or her mother, or her sister on such a site. As you can guess, I didn't get an answer.
The fact is that at the end of February AO3 was temporarily unavailable due to the transfer of content to another server. The fact is that at the beginning of March, Chinese people from Mainland China were able to access AO3, as they were shown accessing the site. I understand that XZ fans were and probably are annoying, I'm sick of them myself and don't consider myself a fan although I like XZ, but not being able to access an illegal porn site shouldn't cause such mass aggression. What these people did was simply appalling. The enormity of mindlessness, hatred and blind retaliation. No one checked what really happened or why, everyone started hating and hurting the innocent actor. XZ fans were arrogant, agree, annoying, of course yes, but other groups of fans were not innocent either, and no one shouted that their idol must pay for their faults. The editor-in-chief of the Prosecutor Daily did a journalistic investigation proving that XZ fans did not report AO3, but he was quickly silenced and his Weibo account closed.
In my opinion, XZ flopped because someone wanted to destroy him before he become more popular, exploited the technical issues on AO3 and put all the blame on XZ fans. The angry, pandemic-scared crowd mindlessly started destroying everything. Most normal people came to their senses within a few days. When I talked to them, it was clear that they were frustrated, helpless and looking for someone to blame, but eventually their anger passed. There were, however, accounts (some of whom have already gone to court and suffered punishment) that were deliberately scrambling and making things up to destroy XZ and his fans completely. These accounts attacked anyone who dared to ask for reason.
I understand that you can dislike someone, but how can you participate in mass violence knowing that the victim is innocent? If the idol was supposed to be in charge of his fans, where were the idols of the fans who abused Xiao Zhan? Were they not equally or even more disqualified? But no other idol paid for the behavior of fans, for this unprecedented violence against XZ and his fans. Is this what justice in the c-ent looks like?
I have never used aggression online, but I was insulted just for standing up for Xiao Zhan. Do you mean to say that the people who attacked me had the right to do so because they believed that some arrogant XZ fan caused shut down access to an illegal pornographic site? If these people applied collective responsibility, why didn't they themselves follow the law they imposed and they, along with their idols, suffered the consequences? Why everyone pointed out that people were buying Guang Dian, and no one saw that fans of other idols were fundraising en masse to break the record for the fastest-selling song? Because when everyone took XZ and his fans under the microscope, the others could feel impunity. Believe me, I've seen more than one disgusting filth that had nothing to do with XZ and his fans, but someone wanting to distract attention from his own scandal dragged XZ into everything. His fans were afraid to open their mouths lest their words be twisted and used against him and some fan clubs specialized in exactly that. After all, public enemy number one is there to blame for everything.
By the way, it's not just China that doesn't have access to certain sites or channels on YT. But somehow no one thinks that fans of an idol are to blame and they don't attack him for that. That would just be ridiculous.
@@shinaxia7474
說的真好！
想知道这个X是谁😜🤪
四个字？
比如刘耀文和宋亚轩现在的时团cp吗另外肖战作为天平座和刘耀文很像诶😂
草说的好像在500强大公司卷天天对付okr老板办公室政治跟职场人际关系就不社畜不迷茫了一样...
呵呵 法律对人的标准那是最低标准。。。。
录音可以稍微讲究一些，每一句都有口水音
现实版让子弹飞
第一第二
🤣
有没有懂227的朋友在留言里谈谈各方势力和他们的资本？纯好奇。
这个作者为了不得罪人没有说实话。我就打直白告诉你吧。陈情令火之后，男二方凭借自己娱乐圈各种暗黑手段的熟手优势，一方面组cp榨肖战，一方面掀起黑风暴直接对肖战下死手，把陈情令积累的流量收割成他一个男二不配的收入，这个事情布局之深在陈情令拍摄的时候这个团队就已经准备了非常多的预制材料，直到现在依然在用这些材料割血，他们确实成功了，2020本来是肖战的丰收年却成了他的沉寂年，男二独自一人吃了全部红利。这个事情和手段太丑陋太残忍太黑暗，而同时他们全力黑的肖战居然找不出任何有价值的黑材料，这激起了观众粉丝路人的愤怒，她们以强力的，不离不弃的支持回应了对家，以自己的强大声量把他们以为一定能搞死的肖战拉了回来。这就是227事件和后227时代。
**某平台 來總 查明2.27真相, 原來是王一博粉絲一早在2.16已經佈署
先找人冒充肖戰粉絲(還建議帶上肖戰頭像) 到處惹是生非,
得罪所有偶像的粉絲, 再利用其他粉絲攻擊肖戰, 要肖戰糊逼他退圈
** 最後王一博粉絲(任教師) 被罰款及要公開向肖戰道歉
** 央視第一個站出來支持肖戰, 播放肖戰的新劇.
其他電視台也陸續播放肖戰的新劇, 成績都不錯