How #1 Nation-Ranked Students Evolve Their Learning

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @JustinSung
    @JustinSung  6 месяцев назад +2

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    Every week, I distil what really works for improving results, memory, depth of understanding, and knowledge application from over a decade of coaching into bite-sized emails.

  • @jacky7878
    @jacky7878 Год назад +116

    1. How are you going to use this information? Make it clinically relevant
    2. Curiosity -> derive things from first principles -> create logical framework
    3. Deep Processing - How can you make it interesting? Can you compare it to other concepts?
    4. Focus on most important concepts -> remove the noise

    • @Aritul
      @Aritul Год назад +1

      Thank you! 🙏🏿🙏🏿

    • @llljojulll
      @llljojulll 3 месяца назад

      Great summary! I would just add: understand your process and improve your process.

  • @cara.bella15
    @cara.bella15 2 года назад +323

    This makes so much sense. Now that I’m learning more complex concepts in physics, mechanics and chemistry I’m struggling because I don’t have a good fundamental understanding. From all the exams I did in my younger years, I’ve realised i never had a real understanding of what was going on, I just noted patterns to get the right answer. For example, i knew in chemistry mass = n x gfm. I never understood why but i just applied this equation and moved on. For maths, i didn’t understand why we have to differentiate an equation to get the equation for the gradient but I learnt how to do it and moved on. This was why i was so bad at explain questions. I want to have a good fundamental understanding because then i can go about questions in a more logical way so that answering harder questions will not be as difficult. Hmm, it seems daunting though, to learn first principles all over again but that would probably help me in the future

    • @fatimav441
      @fatimav441 2 года назад +3

      This!!!

    • @Solitary_Observer
      @Solitary_Observer 2 года назад +13

      That’s exactly my problem.. And i have no idea What i should be doing to fill those gaps.

    • @syedghaffarhassan
      @syedghaffarhassan 2 года назад

      That's exactly me 😂😂

    • @Daniel-sr7hs
      @Daniel-sr7hs Год назад +14

      @@Solitary_Observer you just have to start over. There's no way to get a good fruit without planting

    • @xaquariix
      @xaquariix Год назад +1

      you're just like me fr, now that Im in university I feel like I have more control on my learning and my understanding of fundamental concepts in math and English have greatly improved

  • @thevisitor1012
    @thevisitor1012 2 года назад +156

    Very lovely video. I remember when I was in Highschool high achievers like Archer would be seen as "gods" that no one could ever hope to touch. But Sung who is well-versed in metacognition and understands the theories behind learning can break down and list Archer's reasons for success better than he could, and even points out that anyone could achieve the same if they followed the same process.

  • @tarajones-legros3661
    @tarajones-legros3661 Год назад +49

    I’m in my 50’s . The information here is fascinating. I was a C student that struggled quite a bit in high school and college. But listening to you guys, I did not have the maturity to even desire to improve my studying “strategy”. Fast forward to now, where I am certain I could learn and become proficient at anything I put my mind to. As a lifelong learner, I am hungry to learn new things all the time. The processes you discuss in this channel just fuel the desire to put them into practice and to learn faster and more effectively. Fascinating. I guess my main point here is that a person’s maturity likely has much to do with academic success. Well done guys!! Thank you!

    • @marisol033
      @marisol033 Год назад

      Did you improve you learning skills with only his methods ? Which videos helped you learn?

    • @tarajones-legros3661
      @tarajones-legros3661 Год назад +4

      @@marisol033 Of course not. But I will say that his videos on mind mapping opened up a new world. I was doing it wrong.

    • @djai2968
      @djai2968 Год назад

      @@tarajones-legros3661I completely agree. The CEO one clicked something for me (esp the mind mapping/note taking) and I couldn’t wait to find out more. I’ve let various mental barriers/ignorance/fear or failure hold me back from challenging myself but Justin’s research/work has really opened my eyes. He’s absolutely brilliant

  • @seasaintx
    @seasaintx 2 года назад +963

    I'm gonna become an academic weapon

    • @Hana-ri1nb
      @Hana-ri1nb 2 года назад +30

      @@FrozenPrimordial no it does
      Getting perfect grades means determination , intelligence & discipline

    • @seasaintx
      @seasaintx 2 года назад +25

      @@FrozenPrimordial ok I trade stocks and I'm developing my social skills,I'm gonna become perfect.

    • @johana.1513
      @johana.1513 2 года назад +10

      Wish you luck!

    • @aeioouui
      @aeioouui 2 года назад +4

      we LOVE to see it

    • @iam_kxylee
      @iam_kxylee 2 года назад

      I totally relate 😂😅

  • @siggy1277
    @siggy1277 Год назад +1

    Top students often have strong natural abilities like high cognitive processing and deep-thinking skills. But they combine this with an obsession over improving their studying process.
    Reflect constantly on how you can study better and more efficiently. Ask yourself every day - how have I improved today and what can I focus on tomorrow?
    Don't just blindly follow mainstream study techniques like cramming past papers or Anki flashcards. These tend to be popular because lots of average students use them, not necessarily top students.
    Look for the fundamental principles and first causes behind concepts. Don't just memorize surface details. This builds stronger mental schemas.
    Relate uninteresting topics to things you do find interesting. Forcing curiosity helps learning.
    Measure learning displacement, not distance. Don't ask "how many hours should I study?" but rather "how can I study most efficiently and effectively?"
    The learning process is complex with no quick fixes. Be patient and dedicate time to slowly improving your skills. Joining a program like the one mentioned can accelerate this.

  • @followtheproven4558
    @followtheproven4558 2 года назад +50

    It's suprising Archer spending 5 hours a week with full time business that he likes , still gettin top1% results.
    Am curious to deep dive in process no matter the pain it takes🙏

  • @victoriaaguilellab.1601
    @victoriaaguilellab.1601 2 года назад +32

    I agree completely with 30:49, as I've always been a top student and never known why. People ask me if I study all day, if I read or take notes, or what is it that I do to get such good grades? The only thing I tell them is that I would never study all day and that I wish I knew how I do it. Thanks Justin for helping me understand myself better! PS: we need more videos like this.

  • @rammule8103
    @rammule8103 2 года назад +52

    I agree with the importance of knowing your fundamentals, and I feel like this holds especially true in math. The way I am being taught math in undergrad university depends on the professor, but usually follows a spam of theorems/propositions, lemmas, definitions, and proofs. These theorems are all built on previous theorems, which all stem from fundamental axioms, and the "idea" or "intuition" behind some axioms can be the same over different fields of math.
    While the theorems depend on previous theorems, we still have to heavily memorize the "sufficient conditions", and the "consequences", so still repetition is required to really put it in the mind despite the "links" we see to previous theorems. There are just so many theorems to know. When I did a mind map for one of my courses, the map grew so large it couldn't fit on 1 page with a small font. This is how linked maths are. Now I keep my maps small to be more exam-oriented, easier to extract key ideas.
    On top of this, part of the mathematical formation is the knowledge of how to a prove theorem. Depending on the professor, some may insist more on proofs more than others. For example, in my analysis classes, the professor always mentions on how 10 years back, he'd tell the students to memorize the proofs if they'd want to succeed in math. Nowadays, he still mentions it but doesn't expect it from us. Some of these harder proofs can take an entire 1h30 class for him to show us, and he'd literally write essays. Instead of memorizing these proofs, it usually is sufficient to extract key steps, and if we really master mathematics (having this mathematical sophistication as they call it...), the steps would be obvious to us since one follows another.
    I also liked your last comment in the video. I feel like in whichever field you are in, the thing you need to understand is fundamentally the mentality you need to have and not the course material. It is not just about saying that you can learn this, but also what and why you need to learn. In mathematics, the mathematical mindset is asking the right questions that pertain to whichever field you currently are studying in. This of course is developed after a while. If you've seen about continuity, you'd naturally question on stronger versions of it, and then arrive on maybe uniform continuity. If you're studying prime numbers, your mind would ask questions on patterns in the numbers, because these are what is of interest to mathematicians. If you take a math course for physics students, the mindset would be different. A math course for engineering students would also be different. This could be why courses are separated. A good, and probably experienced professor would teach us this mindset, while some may just take about the material.

    • @mohmeegaik6686
      @mohmeegaik6686 2 года назад +3

      You deserve a praise or a mention from Sung for your detailed, informative comment. From me you get 3 !!! Thank you too.

    • @ffc1a28c7
      @ffc1a28c7 Год назад +4

      Ideally, you should not be memorizing all the sufficient conditions or consequences of the theorems you cover. I'd argue that one should aim to develop an intuitionistic mindset (in that, what you think seems right should be right), and much of that comes with exposure and the development of mathematical maturity. If you are simply memorizing proofs, you are not doing math. To be mathematically mature is to look at a problem or theorem and be able to understand how the fundamental ideas could give rise to those ideas.
      When you go through the normal analysis stream, there is fundamentally only 1 major concept of "let this positive epsilon get small". Once you have the intuition for a limit, when you get exposed to the formal definition of a riemann integral, or generalized forms in Rn or metric spaces, you have the same basal intuition.

    • @MariaSantos-uo3pb
      @MariaSantos-uo3pb Год назад

      @@ffc1a28c7yes, that’s basically what they’re saying: understand the principles behind these concepts in order to develop a flow of logic (that way, having to memorize each and every aspect isn’t needed, as you’re able to utilize that logic to reach them in the first place)

  • @Pale3110
    @Pale3110 2 года назад +54

    I really like your talks. You guys critically think abt things instead of just accept things. My classmates don’t really like using their brains. I hope I meet people like this when I’m an adult

  • @MrPinkfloydian
    @MrPinkfloydian Год назад +3

    This was very interesting!
    I got two things out of this:
    - It seems that the "context approach" of any subject, being it boring or interesting, is the one that brings the best of the results (like in that already contested by Justin - the "Memory Palace"). For example, I have been playing those brain games and struggling A LOT with that grid... sequence... location... game. The briefly flashing squares sequence that we must repeat then. One day it just clicked. If I'd focus more on the shapes instead of its location I'd get extremely better results. Meaning: giving a "context" to the squares as being like a cross, a L-shape, a question mark... as so on. It seems that the whole sequence is much better built altogether in my brain and easily memorized.
    - The other interesting thing mentioned was... will power. It was briefly mentioned in other words. Something about some people have it more than others.
    Well... that may be a physiological impairment. Since I'm one of those relating to ADHDers (will power is a daily struggle for me), one certain day, it all clicked for me. I had the best 15 days of my life. I'd put in action any activity that I always wanted to have but .. like an "amoeba"... I was incapable of even starting it before those 15 days. For example, I read one book during those days (and started around 50 pages of another). At certain point I wasn't even liking it and not even that had put me out of the purpose I had committed myself to it - with ease!
    So for some people, there's a... mental "weight" that it's put against the simplest of the tasks... while for other people (not mentally imparted) they can do it all with... ease!
    One thing I also noticed during those happy-15-days was that didn't have the need to curse. Since I was more proactive, I was more clumsy, thus bumping and breaking things. In my "normal" days I'd be reacting to this with a lovely "F----!" but during those days I'd even laugh at me for noticing that there was zero-need to burp any profanity. Ease...

  • @wingso1010
    @wingso1010 2 года назад +35

    When it comes to studying, it seems that the hours to put in is the only variable that get talked about, like it is all about discipline.
    I think Michael mentioned this in a podcast as well, people would think studying longer hours means you are a better student, but in reality studying less hours and get the same result is really what efficiency means.
    We are so used to the idea that to get better grades, trying harder is the only option.
    it’s almost like everyone just have the same proficiency of learning or the ability to learn is something that cannot be improved
    I used to think in similar ways too until I decided to take a high school biology exam, which covers 3 year’s worth of content in the high school curriculum but I had to take the exam in just 6 months with virtually no prior knowledge so I knew I need to work smarter (and harder) than the current students in high school who had studied the subject for 3 years due to the time constraints. And that’s when I started to look into study techniques and came across Justin’s content. Had to admit that I was quite skeptical at first, but the more I learn about studying and experiment with it the more I find what he is saying does makes sense.
    Now seeing Justin gaining more recognition in the field, perhaps one day the ICS team can really revolutionise the whole education system.

  • @dustinL
    @dustinL 2 года назад +49

    One of your best videos so far. The ending was great! Your passion about addressing the misconceptions around studying is noticeable whenever you speak and I am so glad to have found this channel and your work. Thanks

  • @pammy6429
    @pammy6429 2 года назад +30

    This channel is been helping me a lot, thanks man 🛐

  • @Rafael_V1
    @Rafael_V1 2 года назад +26

    This is brilliant, for me personally, It acted as somewhat like an introspection of my own way of learning and the information you gave out was a game changer!

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад +15

    12:30 Enjoy the process/progression of studying for each of your classes
    .*14:06.* Level yourself up with your own self given accurate stats

  • @DarrenMcStravick
    @DarrenMcStravick Год назад +6

    Graduated 2015 with an ATAR of 43. I'm 25 now, working unskilled jobs -- I feel like my whole life is one big embarrassing joke.
    I remember having random bouts of getting the highest marks in certain classes throughout high school despite having horrible (borderline non-existent) learning habits, so I know I at least have some untapped potential. I'm now looking to turn my life around, undoing the damage I did to myself by stubbornly treating my learning "method" as the only way. Wish me luck...

    • @5minutecalms
      @5minutecalms Год назад

      Just be strategic with managing your day and planning your goals in advance. Then you just gotta reach those small goals everyday. Wish u luck!

    • @DarrenMcStravick
      @DarrenMcStravick Год назад +1

      @5minutecalms You're absolutely onto it -- goal-setting was my weak link. Since improving it, I've improved sleep, been able to fit in focused training of learning skills, and literally every other aspect of my life has improved. Feels good, man.

  • @ME907
    @ME907 Год назад +4

    The analogy you made "don't learn to swim while you're drowning" hit me on the face.. I literally learned swimming while I was drowning! LOL
    But I got the message, I really should've been working on my study earlier, yet here I am trying to learn even though I only have one more year left of college or so.. I'm really grateful to you, Justin, and I'm so happy I've got the chance to know about your channel and your course!
    I actually started the course earlier this year, and then realised I wasn't really applying the part about task management, which really made any effort I put into trying to practice the learning parts of the course meaningless, because I wasn't able to find the time, now I'm trying to apply what I've learned, and I'm so excited to improve!
    Thank you again for this great chance! 16:58

  • @humester
    @humester Год назад +5

    Many people do well in school because they have good memories and memorize a lot of facts. University is different. I found that tests resembled IQ tests where mere memorization of facts proved useless. Remember the guy in "The Paper Chase" who was failing? I remember one exam in immunology. Each question basically provided you with all the needed information. What you had to do was use logic and deep understanding to puzzle out each answer. This class of 200 or so contained all the would be medical students. Forty percent of the class failed. Only one person got 100%, me - and I had hardly studied. What I did have was a deep understanding of the material. In math and physics it is far better to be able to derive everything from scratch. Remember ever memorizing s=ut^2+1/2 at^2? But who needs to memorize this when all you have to do is integrate constant acceleration twice with respect to time? The more you learn about cells, the more you realize how logical it all is, e.g. three bases are enough to code for 24 amino acids, which is why it is so. Two would not be enough to cover 22 amino acids (not just talking of humans here) and four would be overkill. Deleterious mutations tend to eliminate unused body parts right down to the subcellular level. So, you are right; understanding things at a deep level beats rote memorization hands down.

  • @tanishot
    @tanishot 2 года назад +11

    🔥 🔥 level editing. Good content + great editing and transitions = amazing video

  • @anujajangam1214
    @anujajangam1214 2 года назад +45

    Today, I will write about you in my gratitude journal. Your content is awesome. It really helps me a lot. Thank you so much Dr. Justin.... 😃

  • @georgejetson9801
    @georgejetson9801 2 года назад +43

    I'm working on a graduate degree and it is incredibly easy to get top marks if you put the minimum time in. I take a quiz that gives your 3 chances at it. I scored a 92% on the first try. I could have done it again and got the 100% but I didn't bother. The course has a lot of quality information in it plus the bonus of having full access to a uni library. That part is making the course worthwhile as it's given me the tools and framework to learn as much about the topic as I like. Most won't do that. They'll do the minimum to get the grade and move on. Also, I forgot to mention cheating is rampant at most unis now. Why bother with a degree if you don't want to learn anything and cheat your way through.

  • @MyMattinthehat
    @MyMattinthehat 2 года назад +7

    Interesting point on the gaming part. For me I would get fairly good at a game, or far enough into a game and switch to another. I reflected on that and came to realize it was because I really enjoyed learning the mechanics required to "beat" the game or achieve some level/rank that was adequate to me. After that my brain rationalized that the rest of my time playing this game would only be endless iterations of what I already know (grinding) and therefore offer nothing for me to learn. That reflection sparked my interest to going back to school and finishing an accelerated masters program. I still use that mindset to this day when I take up new hobbies.

  • @lolabint3411
    @lolabint3411 Год назад +4

    I'd love to see interviews from people who really struggled prior to using your course. I'd prefer it over students who already were doing well, although I really enjoyed watching this as well, lol. Do you have videos like that?

  • @pismobiics825
    @pismobiics825 2 года назад +6

    This entire video is such an inspiration, thank you all! Just awesome. Plus funny: "...and now you are just like a sad slug in the library" 🤣

  • @BrianGlaze
    @BrianGlaze 2 года назад +12

    I want to learn better now that I'm in my Master's program. I've never gotten bad grades at all but I know I could be the top 1% if I studied and learned better.

  • @fablefallen
    @fablefallen 2 года назад +10

    Dang Bro Im already at UNI and I dont have studying habits. Now my only choice is "learn to swim while I'm drowning"

    • @wellthen4128
      @wellthen4128 3 месяца назад

      @@fablefallen same! Made worse that I’m in year three

  • @AdanSensei
    @AdanSensei Год назад +3

    안녕 Justin.
    I was already obsessed with learning and I think my deep processing is decent.
    Recently I stumbled on the openai trend and the countless nights of excited insomnia and tweaking started.
    Then I watched your video on how to use AI for the future, and seeing you express yourself immediately I perceived you were amazing at what you do. The way you explain it is so logical and consistent is phenomenal and I can tell you have a powerful system Internalized to do this.
    Ive studied meta from so many people since I'm into NLP a lot (tony Robbins, even pagan, Jim Kwik). Whenever I find someone amazing at something I get excited and curious and I start absorbing the best I can from them.
    But the way you present things is a huge new distinction that I already feel is gonna push me to the next level.
    I'm binge watching all your content already and on the waiting list for the course to open.
    Super congrats on your vids and life changing content, and can't wait to get into your course to get that next edge. It feels like a modern mind os for learning based on so much current science.
    I also studied Dr Pauls mind os too! So old school stuff. Can't wait to get the next version from you!

    • @AdanSensei
      @AdanSensei Год назад

      Yes, I enrolled and I'm on FIRE with the content, wow 🔥 I'm literally just doing around 20 mins a day but I'm applying it at the recommended ratio of 5:1 and 40:1

  • @zariyahcampos3565
    @zariyahcampos3565 2 года назад +8

    Thanks for your advices Dr. Sung, I got perfect scores or almost perfect score in my quizzes and exams for almost two weeks. 😍😍😍😍😍

    • @g12nm
      @g12nm Год назад

      What were the techniques that you used?

  • @rinnohara6469
    @rinnohara6469 2 года назад +5

    I really appreciate the theory part of your videos . Its really helpful .

  • @addictaedtokookie1622
    @addictaedtokookie1622 Год назад

    my notes from the vid ;
    • don't have memorisation/flashcards as baseline, instead, understand the first principles (fundamentals, developing strong schema

  • @gabe3704
    @gabe3704 2 года назад +7

    I wish I found this channel 8 years ago cause I was the exact same mind set wise, where I just floated through stuff instead of working on improving myself and my study habbits

  •  2 года назад +14

    I wish I had money to pay for your course. What you do is amazing in every possible way ❤

    • @EragonShadeslayer
      @EragonShadeslayer 2 года назад

      Same, it would be great.

    •  2 года назад +4

      @Maaz Kidwai thank you! I didn’t know that exists and I just applied for it. So I’m very grateful for letting me know ❤️

    • @Lu3849
      @Lu3849 2 года назад +3

      @ but wher
      can you actually aplly for it

  • @safiulfaiyaz7038
    @safiulfaiyaz7038 Год назад +4

    Justin's course should really be in Mindvalley, it's definitely up to standard and would make an awesome addition to Jim Kwik's Superbrain course, they could even do a collab.
    Imagine a brain expert and a study expert joining together......that would be epic af.

  • @BlotchyScrawls
    @BlotchyScrawls Год назад

    A great follow up to this video would be to get everyone to show the interested community how they tackled their first (and Subsequent) lectures/studies in med school. As an example Eg: perhaps even their first cardiology physiology lectures. How did they approach it, study for it, mind map it, and consolidate it into learning. THEN, how did they incorporate this with the appropriate cardiology pathology, pharmacology, anatomy, microbiology, immunology, infectious diseases lecuture/s etc. If you were to show HOW they approached a lecture, tutorial, clinical classes, exams, then THAT would be something worth watching.

  • @johnz7167
    @johnz7167 Год назад +1

    Been Struggling with Med School recently and One year away from internship. I always can’t find how I can study effectively for my selft and have tried multiple type of learning and I always Hit a wall where I can’t do anything about my grades. Now It all makes sense because I lack the fundamentals and crucial basics of Med.

  • @jibokeng8009
    @jibokeng8009 2 года назад +4

    Justin thank you for the free content 👋👌😊😊

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад +4

    16:00 Use your high school to Start Your Reflective Process and Habits before you enter into Uni (Don’t Learn to Swim Before Your Drowning)

  • @jackleary691
    @jackleary691 Год назад

    Keep the long videos please never be afraid of putting more detail in.

  • @Golden2Talon
    @Golden2Talon 2 года назад +10

    Archer looks like Light Yagami from Death Note who was also a genius lol

  • @brucedwaynezabdieldecastro4065
    @brucedwaynezabdieldecastro4065 2 года назад +4

    this was lot to take in! The very first articulate and informative study youtuber I bumped into

  • @nekkinekki4721
    @nekkinekki4721 Год назад +4

    This video makes so much sense. Till 10th grade, I would get top grades(except maths) but I never really studied much. I would just listen in class and just rewrite whatever the teacher made us write in our notebooks and baam, Good Grades (Which makes sense that's why I never got good grades in Maths cuz copy paste doesn't work there at all).
    Since I was getting good grades with no efforts, I got brainwashed (by my parents) into thinking that I am some kind of genius and was meant to take Science Stream in 11th grade (Classic Indian Parents Behaviour. According to my parents, Science Stream in 11th and 12th = Status and Respect in society) And to talk me into taking "challenge" I was indirectly talked into taking Maths instead of Bio (We get a choice in science stream if we wanna take P.C.M i.e, Physics, Chemistry and Maths or P.C.B i.e Phy, Chem and Bio or PCMB, which rarely anyone takes). I did like maths even tho I wasn't good at it so I had nothing against the challenge. Also I rarely had interest in other streams i.e, Commerce and Humanities.
    And, in these 2 years of my life, 11th and 12th, The journey of a downward spiral I was in. From getting no less than 95% till 10th, I was rarely getting 50% (The bar of content in 11th and 12th, especially science, skyrockets). I was getting 4-5 marks out of 80 in my preboards exams. 5 MARKS MAXIMUM OUT OF 80. THE AMOUNT OF TIME LIFE FLASHED IN FRONT OF MY EYES WHILE TELLING THESE GRADES TO MY PARENTS!!!!😵
    Now I am in drop year after 12th grade and slowly learning techniques and doing my best to come out of the spiral.

    • @captainplane398
      @captainplane398 Год назад

      Keep consistent and you can crawl out of any pit. In fact you'll go way beyond what you've ever imagined possible.

  • @humester
    @humester Год назад +1

    Breakfast is important! Before a 3-hour exam I would eat a full breakfast: eggs, ham, sausage, hashbrowns, etc. This gives you energy throughout the exam. I would also take in say, a Mars bar, which I would consume if my mental energy was flagging in hour 3. I firmly believe this breakfast routine led to better marks in the exam. At the very least, not having the distraction of hunger pangs in an exam has got to be a good thing.

  • @knw-seeker6836
    @knw-seeker6836 2 года назад

    This is a fantastic conversation

  • @rgarg1380
    @rgarg1380 2 года назад

    I think I ran across Justin Fung maybe 10 years ago thru a family member. I remember rolling my eyes at the idea of doing higher order evaluation on topics one didn’t understand in detail. I have another qualm, which is that this learning style feels natural to me- I am an INTJ or Strategic Thinker. I did very well in school without a lot of time, including top tier university, until I hit the high memorization required in my professional career. At that point I turned to memorization techniques that I was bad at.
    I guess my point is that most education is run by other Strategic Thinkers, and learning that way is natural to me. But what if that’s not your personality? Can it be trained? Or does memorization work better for some people? I’m frustrated in my new job where I’m being given recipes at work without a framework to make sense of it, but I suspect that’s what works for the average employee.

  • @JustinSung
    @JustinSung  2 года назад +79

    What did you find the most surprising? Let me know in the comments 👇

    • @mokshadpatil9933
      @mokshadpatil9933 2 года назад +4

      I was wondering meditation calms the subconscious mind and thereby also activates the cannibal receptors (happiness) to work from within so there would be a great impact on processing since human brain works at best when it's blissed out

    • @justkidness7772
      @justkidness7772 2 года назад +2

      The magic trick lol

    • @ejrene7978
      @ejrene7978 2 года назад

      @@anatoliofacaldo3276 exactly

    • @tarbsmwale9093
      @tarbsmwale9093 2 года назад +2

      Im surprised on the effort thing. I study 8 hours for my tests for 2 days and score 70-50 range 😢 wheras these guys get so high marks with 2-3 hours of studying roughly a day!

    • @staybalancedn
      @staybalancedn 2 года назад +1

      Where can i find the article on deprocessing 29:33

  • @wannabe-dev
    @wannabe-dev 2 года назад +6

    In high school I had the best possible grades (20/20) on all the subjects in the hardest highschool "course" u can go, doing the bare minimum pretty much not studying anything
    In university I'm struggling so much im looking everywhere for how to study and how to learn and it's so so overwhelming

    • @safynsmeems4645
      @safynsmeems4645 2 года назад

      r u srs? What subjects u do?

    • @wannabe-dev
      @wannabe-dev 2 года назад +1

      @@safynsmeems4645 in uni? I'm a software engineer student, year 2, I passed everything year 1 but not with the best grades, this year i got good grades on my first 2 tests but I'm struggling a lot in the projects

    • @safynsmeems4645
      @safynsmeems4645 2 года назад +1

      @@wannabe-dev that’s so good bro, I was just confused regarding the 20/20 because in my state no one has gotten 20/20 in all their subjects ever

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    .*23:17.* The process, journey, and method (25:10 - Initiating Curiosity) to go through every class

  • @halesbellss
    @halesbellss Год назад +1

    “Don’t learn to swim while you’re drowning” yeah but we don’t plan on drowning!

  • @rakeshkumawat8142
    @rakeshkumawat8142 2 года назад +2

    I didn't knew i already have the strong method to study i too just rely on principles and foundation of topics and think of questions for topic in process of learning itself. I also don't study until exams are coming and manage to get above 90

  • @Trucnguyen1226
    @Trucnguyen1226 2 года назад +14

    Useful channel. Could you do one episode on a study technique for ADHD?

    • @serenity3945
      @serenity3945 2 года назад +2

      If you have adhd I recommend doing meditation to find a way to calm ur mind on command (unless ur school allows u to play music during exams wich of you are then use white noise brown noise the same as you use wich calms ur thoughts while studying) nothing I've said is medically proven but you can try and see if it works

    • @Trucnguyen1226
      @Trucnguyen1226 2 года назад

      @@serenity3945 Thanks Serenity. I've tried meditation before but its impossible for this brain. There're so many thoughts coming out of nowhere. the worst thing is i can't even control it. i've tried studying standing up, kinda helps but not sustainable.

    • @serenity3945
      @serenity3945 2 года назад +1

      @@Trucnguyen1226 meditation isn't something that just magically works its a skill you hone it and thoughts won't magically dissappear you'll just realise that the thoughts are not coming from you but separately and then you can practise to ignore them
      Its a life long habit I recommend u build right now never quit

    • @CFC.NobarR
      @CFC.NobarR 2 года назад

      @@Trucnguyen1226 That's expected when you first start meditating. Keep at it and you'll get better at it.

    • @serenity3945
      @serenity3945 2 года назад

      @@Trucnguyen1226 by any chance do you experience that you can never finish something completely if so reply.

  • @KLTer-jo9jy
    @KLTer-jo9jy 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, first if all, great content, and you guys are something to aspire to. I do have to disagree with one thing you said though. The question about breakfast is not dumb and definitely not the dumbest. Nutrition makes an noticeable difference in terms of how your body works and in turn how you perform mentally. Anyone who's ever experienced a sugar slump or after coffee crash, can surely tell you it's no effective studying can be done during those times. For me, as someone with an autoimmune disease, nutrition is even more important and truly makes a difference between night and day in terms if what I can accomplish. Hence, I think it was actually a valuable question, which might make quite an impact on someone's performance. Otherwise, great content guys.

  • @Chinekeh
    @Chinekeh 2 года назад +1

    I am looking forward to learning more

  • @Shlrine
    @Shlrine 2 года назад

    I love your videos so much, long video in my opinion is very informative!

  • @michaelso8185
    @michaelso8185 2 года назад +12

    Is there any videos Justin talked about how to study mathematics? Can we apply the techniques he taught in math?

    • @EragonShadeslayer
      @EragonShadeslayer 2 года назад

      I’ve thought about this before too but I think I remember him saying before that they do work in math.

    • @ayanbhattacharjee1076
      @ayanbhattacharjee1076 Год назад

      The fundamentals of how one should learn always remains the same no matter what the subject is.

  • @gustavoteles5994
    @gustavoteles5994 Год назад

    TAKEAWAYS
    Derrick: Work smater, not harder. You don't learn to swim while drowning.
    Archer: Enjoy the process. Learn the fundamentals and motivate yourserlf into that knowledge.
    Stephanie: High level learning (deprocessing) is key to top students. Don't measure distance, measure displacement.

  • @StudyTeatime
    @StudyTeatime Год назад +3

    How would this work in a subject like history? Just connect the events by reason?

  • @golzaye3393
    @golzaye3393 Год назад +3

    Hey Justin!
    Quick question: What would you recommend doing for top students who are looking to improve their learning?
    After a bunch of seminars in school I tried learning techniques like interleaving, active recall e.t.c but it never really showed me a difference in grades as I was already getting top results before. As I entered Y11 I started writing down notes for the first time ever on flashcards to revise and it really improved some of my results in science. Aside from that I haven't had much success with other learning techniques. My general consensus is to throw away the textbook, understand the concept, and then memorise the extra info to target exam questions - I really dislike most subjects with a focus on memorization. What would you recommend for me to start doing to further improve my learning?

  • @PasserbyP
    @PasserbyP 6 месяцев назад

    I'd like to see if these concepts would succeed for an advanced math student or somewhere where there is different style of thought process where there is less volume and more skill expression and creative thinking

  • @mrmuffin5046
    @mrmuffin5046 2 года назад +14

    Could you please go over to how we can use your method for studying programming? Or link a video if you already have one

    • @buddha6659
      @buddha6659 2 года назад +4

      just code a lot. Top down approach. More coding and tinkering, less reading books.

    • @mrmuffin5046
      @mrmuffin5046 2 года назад

      @@buddha6659 so forget his methods when it come to programming?

    • @Abdouu_700
      @Abdouu_700 2 года назад +1

      Programming is a highly procedural thing , its more about practice so its actually about getting efficient in practice
      The thing is learning and procedurals are kinda different .

    • @kdme
      @kdme 2 года назад

      Build a side project. Don't get boggle down with tutorials, they are fine to get a feel on what programming a project feels like but making a project helps you recall and apply things you have learn. Necessity is the mother of invention after all.
      Also while you should be using google and reading documentation Its a worthwhile investment to actual take time to remember APIs. Its make you more efficient when you don have to constantly context switch when you have to go over the documentation to know how to write this particular function.
      As for Justin's methods. It can still apply if you are attending UNI and have to deal with the bullshit tests that involves a lot of memorization. You could also use it to encode and recall the APIs of a programming language. I think that's a worthwhile investment but most of your improvement would come from actual experience in programming. Its a skill after all rather than just memorizing facts or pure knowledge.
      NOTE: You might also want to read "The Programmer's Brain". It goes over a lot on how to learn programming faster

  • @BlueSkie_
    @BlueSkie_ Год назад +1

    I'm sorry if I'm saying nonsense.
    When you said Learning, where did you get information for the things you learn.
    Is it from UNIVERSITY or you're SEARCHING up for information yourself.
    I'm an Asian highschooler, and now all information source I know is from CLASS, BOOKS, TUTOR, INTERNET (but quite hard to find things for me, if I could get any advice about researching info on the internet would be great).
    Is there an easier accessible info source?

  • @darcash1738
    @darcash1738 11 месяцев назад

    I prefer working from quaternary principles inwards towards first principles and outwards to septenary principles 🧐

  • @Frenk33
    @Frenk33 Год назад

    maaaaaan, I'm so glad to be finished with IB xD

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    9:50 Have a really good reason to make you put the effort in (in that the effort you put in now, can change can where you could be in the future)

  • @Paul-ml4fk
    @Paul-ml4fk Год назад

    I was surprised about how you could focus on the process rather than the outcome to have more control over the outcome itself, which sound paradoxical but it increases effectivity in studying as you further experiment and tweak your study and work approach. You study better not just by studying more but by increasing the quality of your study, not the amount of time you spend studying.

  • @monjeanarquista3893
    @monjeanarquista3893 2 года назад

    Wow Archer is such a scorer!

  • @beegreene9744
    @beegreene9744 9 месяцев назад

    Never stop talking about theory!

  • @tanyacolumbres6813
    @tanyacolumbres6813 2 года назад +3

    I am slowly but surely improving when it comes to learning stuff like English, Science, Literature, etc. However, I still don't know how I should approach math T.T I cannot seem to find relationships in the lessons as teachers would just drop formulas and yay that's how you should do it! Help me please 😭😭

    • @maxiswilson4483
      @maxiswilson4483 2 года назад +2

      I cant guarantee you , but the approach worked for me was just heck a lot of interleaved practice. Just provide as much time as you can solving problems and look at the solutions very rarely only for those question on which you have just got a hint.
      If you dont know a question at all, Skip it. Read again. Approach it again

    • @miko-ee
      @miko-ee Год назад

      I don't know how to say it maths came more easier to me
      English was a different ball game

  • @rinnohara6469
    @rinnohara6469 2 года назад

    needed it alot. Thank you .

  • @longieboy
    @longieboy Год назад +1

    watched 20 videos, best hairstyle so far

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    21:01 Story (Having a Calm, Chill Personality)

  • @alishaanimations3058
    @alishaanimations3058 2 года назад +2

    I’ve learnt so much from you

  • @garykim313
    @garykim313 Год назад

    I can totally relate. These days, I felt like I've spent the last 30 years of my life as a mindless automaton.

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад +1

    17:48 Have an Aspiration / Goal to Be The Top 10 in every school in your area or even in your Class, Doing Your Best.

  • @bronzong91
    @bronzong91 2 года назад +2

    For instance, you throw out a word like deprocessing, but don't explain what it means. It seems to me that the more knowledge you have the more likely you are to naturally make connections that create lasting knowledge. But how do you get that knowledge. You need to teach yourself some of the building blocks again, but you also need the awareness to know what those building blocks that are missing are. That information is often missing because people lack an awareness of study techniques, ie how to focus on the process and become more efficient.

  • @krystalgomez2300
    @krystalgomez2300 Год назад

    Thankyou so mich for these videos.

  • @blackhole4813
    @blackhole4813 2 года назад

    They knew that they had a chance, while even we, who try hard doesn't have a chance

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    2:48 (Improve your process of studying to get a particular mark for each of your classes)

  • @Koachi4life
    @Koachi4life Год назад

    I have also gotten the breakfast question

  • @whortle
    @whortle Год назад +1

    Keep in mind that most of your teachers are average. If you’re lucky, you’ll have two or three who are really a cut above and actually know how to teach and will challenge you.

  • @FF-zv5ho
    @FF-zv5ho 2 года назад +1

    Please make a pre recorded course on how to study? Especially about clinical subjects of medical school , and we would love to buy it...

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    5:00 (Having awareness of studying technique to then enhance them)

  • @lasseel3724
    @lasseel3724 2 года назад +1

    So what's the technique?

  • @Alex-ns6hj
    @Alex-ns6hj 2 года назад +8

    I have a genuine question… attendance has an effect on my grades. So what I’m wondering, if I can be much more efficient studying on my own time and get more done, is it worth skipping class if I know the content fully but it still affects my grade bc of attendance & participation? What is your thought on this?

    • @saaramohamed8921
      @saaramohamed8921 2 года назад

      I've been wondering the same thing

    • @strawverymilktae1280
      @strawverymilktae1280 2 года назад

      my advice on this is go to class and if you can and understand the material in class, do something else like do homework for another class, reading, or something alike. just don't get into trouble or disrespect your prof/teacher!

    • @goldencookie5456
      @goldencookie5456 2 года назад

      That depends on you and your classes. How good are you at self learning? How good are you at learning from being taught? How good are the classes? Try and assess what's best for you by experimenting. If you're unsure and don't want to risk it, then you can continue learning in class. But the important thing is to continue improving your ability to learn. If you do, you will definitely find what works best for you. And if you truly begin to master learning, you will also begin to know what CAN work best for not just you, but everyone.

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад

    .*7:30.* Your studying is a reflection of how you try to do things

  • @blackswordsman9745
    @blackswordsman9745 2 года назад +1

    i am glad that I discovered your channel. subbed instantly. can you please have highly successful engineers share their experiences as well? would be really interesting.

  • @goldencookie5456
    @goldencookie5456 2 года назад

    People don't realize these techniques are also what you can use to become creative.

  • @josuel.9598
    @josuel.9598 Год назад

    Your stock photos are killing me man 🤣🤣😂

  • @NoRefund17
    @NoRefund17 2 года назад +1

    I'm curious if you have ever talked about Obsidian and if not, your thoughts on it and why you do/don't use it. I love your videos on mind mapping, but I'm curious how you handle a WIDE breadth of information on various topics that you can periodically go through and review over years and years and years with a mind map. I feel like links between similar ideas in totally different topics is useful, which is why in theory, I like obsidian, but id love to hear your thoughts on all this.

  • @RexZ412
    @RexZ412 2 года назад +3

    Another good vid

  • @mamoako1521
    @mamoako1521 2 года назад +1

    19:43 Study in a Way of …

  • @famnfren
    @famnfren 2 года назад

    What's first principle? Can someone please kindly explain and give an example? Thank you!

  • @monstereugene
    @monstereugene 2 года назад

    28:50 thats the fucking problem with modern education. It goes in full depth over specific things. I.E. units in math where you learn say linear equations in complete detail before you learn the baseline of knowledge.

  • @wungus-bongo
    @wungus-bongo Год назад

    comparing the 45 on ib to a 4.0 is criminal

  • @lenabo9929
    @lenabo9929 Год назад

    So how long should i study for?

  • @Paladin101
    @Paladin101 Год назад

    Can I request that you DON’T stop the theory 👍
    I’m 60, a dyslexic with ADD, and I need the theory to create the context so I can understand😉

  • @preparewithme101
    @preparewithme101 2 года назад

    Please make a 5 or 10 minutes video summary of this video. I don't have so much time & attention to wait for 40 minutes.

  • @malavikaravi5893
    @malavikaravi5893 2 года назад +1

    Thank you

  • @saarikivit
    @saarikivit 2 года назад +4

    Good one! Great discussion 🙂
    Similarly I feel like I had no thought when I was younger. And now, that's something I do with everything.
    Seems, that growth is a thing that happens to everyone to some extent. Therefore I have to think that it could be a kognitive graduation of sorts. Meaning a necessary neurological development and certain kognitive precursors have to be met before the "graduation".
    Yes, that is somewhat trivial, obviously, as a child can not do process evaluation and thinking like that. Nor have the motivation to do it. But at some point that is possible.
    When and how do we reach capacity for such level of meta kognition? I bet developmental psychology has the answer already!