PART 8 How to Fix a SAMSUNG RF 267 Refrigerator Not Cooling Icing and Freezing DIY repair
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The Samsung refrigerator Series RF267 has an ongoing issue with freezing up and icing over the fan and evaporator coil. This is PART 8. This video will show you a possible fix, even though it may be only short term.
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We will try and insulate some of the coils and seal the cover better to prevent or slow down the icing problem...
There are reasons why this Samsung Refrigerator seems to freeze up like this. It may be due to a faulty thermostat, or a defrost coil, or a defrost timer.
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Jake thank you! I'm just seeing this link a year later. As I told Marie mine was JUST starting to show frost coming out of the top 2 slots of the cover. (mostly top right) Do you think this is what's wrong with most of these refrigerators? WHERE does the thermostat go?
Hey jake we have a Samsung side-by-side refrigerator it’s a rs 265tdbp I watched a bunch of your videos ours is doing the usual keeps freezing up I have to keep taking it apart using the hairdryer on the coils it’s a pain in the ass at least twice a month I was wondering I know you said in one of your videos you were going to have a solution for that I didn’t know if you came up with anything To fix that?? Any help would be greatly appreciated
@@user-cj2vu4jn7v Got a RS21hduts. I got same problem. I couldn't find an exact solution. There is a hidden menu on fridge that has a forced defrost(fD) mode. Rather than removing the cover I use fD mode. There are some upgrade kits on ebay for side by side samsungs but didnt try one. Samsung keeps producing and selling the same under engineered frosting no-frost fridges for years although they know about the problem very well.
Spent all day watching Samsung refrigerator fixes, but this one was the best. And the comments are hilarious 🤣! Bottom line, we all got screwed by Samsung, found numerous videos on thawing out this piece of $hit, and a Facebook group of haters and a Class action lawsuit: Yikes!! Bought mine 4 years ago and had a repair man fix it at 7 months. I guess I should count my self lucky that I got three years out of it before today’s tear down to defrost. I might add that I had a perfectly working Whirlpool that was 14 years old that I replaced just to get a better “looking “ stainless steel refrigerator. One thing quite a few people have said to do after the defrost: get a 6” piece of copper wire to attach on the black heating wire near the drain hole, exstending 1-2”” into the drain hole. Apparently the fact the water freezes the hole up causes the water to drain into the refrigerator under crisper trays & then cause condensation that creates the freezing of the coils and fan ice to form. Do I get an A?
*The amazing thing is this problem has been going on since before 2010 and Samsung kept denying AND making the exact same crap so do yourself a favor and junk these lemons you'll be much happier.*
A $2.000 Refrigertor and breaks after 4 years! GE use to make themfor $100 and lasted over 20 years
Michelle & Oscar
I'm so upset that this refrigerator leaks the ice maker doesn't work the fan isn't working now I have Frost in my freezer I am out of my mind trying to fix this thing so it doesn't cost me an arm and leg is my husband died and I'm a widow I don't know what to do I don't know how to get it from centigrade back to Fahrenheit it's just crazy
My oven and Dryer broke the first 12 months.
look at GE's stock price. this is how wall street makes money.
My samsung fridge 4yrs now fridge frozen.
Michelle & Oscar #
Samsung design engineers get a kick out of these videos & remedys
Jake said "Since the cover is so badly damaged, I think that the air flow is all screwed up and is not doing what it is supposed to do anyway. I think it could be getting too much air because of the damage to the Styrofoam behind the cover, which may be the reason why the fridge seems to be getting worse and worse each time I took it apart. Sealing the edges with tape has seemed to help a little bit but has not solved the problem. I may also close off some of those vent holes tonight."
Hi Jake,
I know why yours is getting worse each time you worked on it. From this video I see you covered up the Evaporate coils -- the bottom and part of the top. There are total 10 turns and 2 of them are covered with paper and aluminum tape. This effectively reduces the cooling efficiency of this heater exchanger, then you also said you are going to cover up some of the vent holes. These vent holes are for the fan to pump the cold air out into the refrigerator and if them are covered up then you are reducing the cold air by 20% or more.
The air is drawn in by the fan through the top left and right side grill (on both side of the fan area), then pushed down to the bottom via the side channels (bordered by the vertical strips of Styrofoam), then the air moving from the bottom to the top passing through the cooling fins and became very cold air, then pumped out through those 1" x 0.5" vent holes. The important point is that the air from outside of the fan box need to pass through the cooling fins starting from the bottom and up to the top to get very cold, then the cold air need to get out via the small 1"x0.5" vent holes.
Brian
Needs a Bigger fan all day long.
I've been fixing appliances for over 42 years and these things are the worst pieces of JUNK ever! "SamDUNG!"
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Thank you for your comment Don...What are your top 3 brands to recommend to us getting rid of these SamDungs?
Amen...I cant see his repair to have any weight
I ditched the old Samsu...no, I can't even say the name, it was so bad. Got an LG instead.
@@jaywebb4992 Probably just as bad from what I hear. a lot of these korean companies get their parts from the same supplier and basically just throw different exteriors and features. ughhh I miss an old whirpool we had, it ran for about 30 years, it started rusting but boy this thing was such a beast and it had water dispenser too.
I sympathize with your efforts on this poorly designed Samsung refrigerator. One note that needs to be taken seriously. Do not use paper towels to insulate the cooling coils input line. It is a fire hazard and may restrict air flow. However, I did tightly wind foil tape around the input/output of the first two feet of the input coil, which seemed to help slow down (too early to tell if it eliminated) ice buildup. The biggest thing that may help, providing that your defrost elements and sensors are working correctly, and the fuse for the defrost heater is good, is to move the white thermistor sensor, located upper right but outside of the cooling coils, directly to the input/output of the cooling coils at the top and right, otherwise noted as the point of the greatest/first ice buildup. If the programming is working properly, then it should automatically defrost until that ice is gone, hopefully. I also noticed there was a change in the white thermistor sensor at the right side of the coils to the after market black sensor you referenced at Amazon. Did that help?? Also, I did extend a thick gage copper wire wrapped around the heating element and down to about an inch into the drain hole to keep it ice free. Thanks to those that recommended that fix.
This is an excellent example of how a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing. The problem is with the heating element not working properly. Replace the heating element. There is apparently a class action lawsuit against Samsung for this problem.
Solution.. Don’t buy Samsung.
This is a permanent solution, so seat tight and enjoy my analysis.
The root cause of the problem is ice built up and then clogged up the cold air vent holes and jammed the fan. There are multiple reasons for ice build up:
1. Where did the ice come from? To minimize the ice we need to keep moisture inside to the minimum, which means covering up glasses of water, milk, opened sod cans, soup, cut open water melon, mango, fruits, wet vegetable, raw meat, etc. . The humidity inside the refrigerator is quite low, and so anythings that can be dried up will release moiture and this will form ice, and too much ice will out win the defrost heater short heating cycle (short cycle to achieve the Energy Star) and the net result is a slowly ice build up.
2. The other moisture source is the bottom Pantry tray that collected water. You need to pull out the pantry and clean this bottom tray every month or so, or after a spill from trays above. Any liquid spill not cleaned up will ended up as ice inside the fan box -- no magic about this.
3. The bottom drainage hole is clogged up with ice. Once this happened, every degrost cycle will release the water down into the bottom Pantry and pool there. This water then evaporate and form ice inside the fan box eventually. (Hint: to melt the drain hole ice fast, fill up the "pond" above the hole with water then place a 15 watts soldering iron hot tip into the water and make sure to keep the hot tip from directly touching the plastic part. Add more water if the "pond is dried up. The hot water will melt the ice and clear up the drain hole. You need to keep an eye on this and remove the iron as soon as the hole is cleared.
So how do we solve these problems? It is unrealistic to have zero moisture inside the refrigerator, but if we can keep it to the minimum as I pointed out in (1) above, and with a modification to the design that prevents the drain hole clogged up then the problem will be eliminated permanently.
To solve the problem (3), I used a 6 inches long, 3mm diameter copper (or aluminum) wire, wrapped around the black heater pipe (just above the drain hole and running across left to right) 3 turns, and extended the wire down into the drain hole. If you don't have large gauge wire then just use two smaller gauge wires, wrap them on the left and right side of the heater pipe and extend the wires down into the drain hole about 1.5 to 2 inches.
I used to fix the iced up fan every year, but after implementing the 3 steps above, it has been running over 2 years and still no problem. My unit is RF266AB.
Brian
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Brian,
Seems like you figure you got these baby's figured out... This fridge (and many Samsung's) suffer from multiple problems . One is the drain tube extension wire. This covers the frozen water below trays.
Now frozen coils that stop fan and air flow and fail to cool Fridge. If one manages to eliminate moisture sources (as you suggest) , no defrost problem ! Not realistic, (I'm an Engineer, must be tolerant of real conditions ,not hide from) fridge should be tolerant of moisture and handle it. It did when new. Thanks for Guitar Man getting folks thru short term MELT DOWN .
SAVE YOUR FOAM defrost with water then fix the REAL problem
I have read post/video several times or the last 2 years as my RF265 began to warm (frozen Evap like you)
Getting tired of breaking out coolers,etc. Done 5x in 2 yr I must say thought I've got it down to a couple hours.
For Defrost, water (hot from hose best) heat transfer of even cold water beats Hot air several x) I can get cover off safely in ten minutes. Have 10 towels on hand.
Plug drain to below, or be ready to turkey baster out the water from pan out back.
I see all the effort in insulating coil. Paper on real Hot coil ?? Maybe fiberglass. wonder why I got 5 Yrs without this problem (had freeze up on bottom drain fixed with longer tang)and now this,what changed ?? bought new.
Searching web and service tips, I thought I would measure voltage of sensors in operation. Not too hard, PC board on back of unit.
I forced a Manual defrost (press 2 buttons at once) rd, and did not hear more than a slight tick from expansion. When Unit froze up, again. I expect sizzle of water on hot coil. NOT
So I read, if defrost sensor fails, it could think Temp met right away, and end defrost in 90 sec (said to 68 F for Refridge ends defrost) OK and run ONLY 90 seconds. Barely a sizzle.
I Measure voltage on the sensors (cn30? on PCB blue wire to gnd)) and it looks like 80 F (per chart) to Computer (when surround by ice ) !! And must have been wrong for 2 yrs.
Have you checked/tested your Defrost Sensor ?
I replaced sensor and held in ice to test (reads like 33 f) , now it goes longer that 90 seconds and I hear the sizzler of water on the hot element !
Back together may for last time !!!!! let you know on a few months.
Let me know when you see this, I can help you troubleshoot if needed.. Mark fingers crossed in Ohio
*************Update 10 Months WITHOUT problems**********
Excellent analysis Brian. Wish I read this before today, would have saved me lots of time. I fridge completely froze over - took me over an hour to safely defrost with a heat gun to remove the cover. Then another hour with heat gun to carefully remove all the ice. I moved the thermistor sensor as some suggested. Not sure if it helps any. Finally discovered the iced up drain tube. Another hour with boiling water, sucking out (with a small liquid pump), to totally clear that drain. Then I used a 12" #8 gauge wire wrapping 2 times around heating element and sticking 6-8" of length into that drain tube. Hope I didn't overkill it :-) Will see how long this lasts. Really like your analysis about keeping moisture down and regularly cleaning / drying bottom of trays. I've never did this before until today. What a mess.
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Mark,
Would love to visit with you about Samsung side by sides...
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Mark Carney , the reason the drain tube freezes is simple. Everyone tends to complicate it. Sure, a heat sink is needed due to the defrost element warping. The will warp away from the drain hole and are too far to keep it thawed. The heat sink, or wire added to element and the other end is in the drain will correct that problem. It won’t correct the problem of the water freezing up inside the tube.
When the drain tube fills with water and freezes it causes water to leak out the refrigerator/freezer. You’ll notice water frozen under the drawers and leaking out the front onto your floor. This will not cause a “no cool” issue. The unit will cool properly. The only complaint is water on the floor.
Every owners manual has a maintenance section. It will tell you to clean the condenser coils at least once a year. These coils are in back by the compressor. They pull air in from under refrigerator, over the condenser coils and across the compressor. This does several important jobs. It cools the compressor, condenser and keeps the refrigerant at a proper temperature. Too hot will cause the refrigerant to not liquify properly or the compressor to over heat. This also causes copper lines to erode, flake and leak.
If the coils aren’t cleaned, the dust and dirt and pet hair will clog in the coils. This restricts the air flow that is needed. This also leaves no where for the dust and dirt to go. The fan is pulling in the air and it’s trying to find a place to go. The dust and air will travel to places they aren’t designed to go. Dust will be sticking to vents, getting stuck on the water valve and other components underneath. The dust will also make its way in the drain tube. Every refrigerator that I’ve serviced that has a leaking refrigerator due to a frozen drain has been caused by a restriction inside the tube. This restriction is dust/dirt that had no where else to go.
Clean the coils at least once a year, more often if you have inside pets, and this problem won’t happen.
Although, I'm not a professional appliance repair man, but I do have common sense, and it tells me that the suggested repair on this video does not seem like its a sensible idea. I would keep searching for other videos to find better alternatives
You would be correct to do so. This "fix" is bad and dangerous.
Why is this method dangerous? It worked just fine for me!
Veramente pericolosa!!! Rischio incendio con il calore della resistenza di sbrinamento. Bye
By laying paper towel or any insulation along the top of the evaporator or along the bottom you restrict airflow over the refrigerant coils. They need to be clear. Wrapping the lines above the evaporator where they enter and exit the cabinet is acceptable. Putting a combustible anywhere near the defrost element is clearly asking for a fire.
As a 45-year technician, I can promise you that using a hair dryer will dissolve the liner in Samsung, LG and most other brands when it comes to thawing the evap. Always use a steam gun t avoid replacing a refrigerator due to wall damage
Oh yes. I learned this the hard way.
Bought all new samsung appliances. Fridge, range, dish washer, washer and dryer. Firdge is having this problem. Never buying samsung again.
Nor Kenmore, they use Samsung parts. Mine died after two months.
I bought all the Samsung products as well. Never again . after the first year my dryer broke, oven and fridge.
I bought all Samsung in January of 2016. So far I've repaired the dishwasher (bottom mechanism quit working), range (both convection fans) and now I'm working on the fridge. The microwave throws codes ever so often too. Yay Samsung!
Samsung needs to be sued for manufacturing these defect mechanism and selling them at a very high price
Did the same mistake 7 years ago. This past year, my washer (clogged water line), dryer (thermostats fuse, which produces the heat), and tonight the fridge (complete icebox, which obstructed the fan from spinning). NEVER doing Samsung again. Go American...
Samsung appliances are total garbage. Our new Samsung $3k fridge went out exactly at one year old. We called Samsung and they said they would take care of it since it was so close to the warranty date. After 5 weeks of runaround, we were informed that they had no service in our area, and they would give us a refund. We said great, but after another few weeks of runaround, they told us "Some decision board" had declined the refund. We contacted a local appliance service to repair, and they said it needed a new mainboard for $1200. Our previous GE fridge made in America lasted 22 years. Samsung sucks!
THIS GUY DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT!
The evaporator coils SHOULD have frost on them. The air in the fridge needs to pass over the coils. This is how the heat inside is removed from your unit.
What this guy is showing you to do is WRONG on so many levels!
First, the reason you see moisture going into the drain is due to the drain line. The drain line is a tube that exits the refrigerator. With the door open there is a draft. The air will naturally follow that drain tube. This is normal.
Second- NEVER use a blow dryer to defrost a refrigerator! Never! The liner is plastic, a very thin plastic. It melts easily. You will damage the liner and there is no fix. You could try to seal a damaged liner, in my 30 yrs experience, sealants only work for awhile. Plus, it’s not covered by manufacturer and once damaged nothing else will be cover by the manufacturer.
Third- NEVER put paper towels on electrical components! HELLO!! Would you wrap paper towels around the bake element in your oven? No, I hope not. The defrost heater in your refrigerator is the same as an oven element. It will glow red hot and any paper near it will burn.
If your refrigerator has frost/ice built up on the back wall, there is a component in the defrost circuit that has failed and needs to be replaced. No paper towel is going to fix it.
Correct.... paper towel as insulation lol.
He's using a hairdryer which is not recommended.
Hi do you mean replacing defrost sensor and thermis sensor would fix the problem?
The paper towels are blocking the air flow!
Loretta if that is your image in your Avatar then all I can say that your beauty is only surpassed by your intellect. Let us not forget that this guy is a typical "RUclipsr". He creates videos about nothing in particular, he is out here for likes and subscriptions, actual substance and quality of content including being correct is the last thing on his mind.
I have the same problem, even though Samsung has an ongoing situation with defective coils and ice-maker, but they don't want to assume the defect. I even suggested to pay partially for the repairs but their answer was no.They basically said go buy another one. Disappointing customer service, don't buy this crappy brand.
*The amazing thing is this problem has been going on since before 2010 and Samsung kept denying AND making the exact same crap so do yourself a favor and junk these lemons you'll be much happier.*
Noooooo!!! you are creating a fire risk!!!! If the heater gets hot, it could ignite the paper tissue and set alight to plastic lining , ultimately causing a potential explosion of the refrigerant gas. Never ever do this!!!
ON HELL YES IF R500 IS IN SYSTEM CAN WE SAY BOOM
All domestic refrigeration here in Europe uses r600 which is basically butane kerboom time
Most manufacturers have a kit for this icing issue. Many French door units experience an icing issue. With a little searching there is usually a service bulletin with part numbers needed. Manufacturers also are producing videos on how to install these I have seen the Samsung one here on RUclips. Please be careful when re engineering an appliance I've repaired appliances and seen some very scary and dangerous things done by well meaning people. Not saying this repair is right or wrong just saying look to see if there is a service bulletin or an alert first and try to get professional advice before repairing anything. Have a blessed day
I agree never add what is not intended but a good thought also mine has the same problem but anytime the top has a problem the bottom must be addresses at the same time doing the same thing they due clog up on the drains very easy and the bottom is the problem that messed up the top?
Piss off John H. Blah blah blah. There wont be a fire there
I put a copper wire through the drain..hooked it TO the heating element and NO MORE problems! I pushed almost 2 feet into the drain hole. I don't know if that much was necessary but it worked! This is after I paid 2 repairmen to come out who did nothing other than to thaw the ice out with MY blow dryer. Thank you all on RUclips who told me how to do it! PS I'm a woman...nothing stops me! It's been 6 months and it's working perfectly. I did clean out the rubber tube that comes down in the back to the drain pan since I had the frig pulled out but I do NOT think that was the problem. I did a "chat" w Samsung and asked if the copper wire would work and they said yes. It did!
Can I ask what gauge copper wire you added? Also a woman doing things by myself.
@@mariec1439 14 or 16 gauge?? I figured the bigger the more heat it would conduct. I will say that mine started showing frosty ice coming out of the top 2 holes of the cover a month or so ago. I shut it down, cleaned all the pet fur off of the coils underneath and used the blow dryer on the cover wo removing it this time. Sadly it is already beginning to come back. If I can figure out where to put the thermostat I'll try that next. But 2 years was pretty good! I'm so glad you messaged me because I had forgotten Jake shared the link!
Hey bro been having the same dam problem for over 2 years I got it apart now I’m making that stupid bracket they got on amazon out of sheet metal I swear the only Samsung I’m buying from now on his a tv most of there other stuff is junk poor design
Have had my fridge 2 years and was told by a "Samsung" tech yesterday to stay away from their appliances. They do not know how to build one....they are an electronics company. Judging from all the reviews on your site, I'd say I'm not alone in what I'm going through. Almost $3000 for this piece of shit!! Samsung should be held responsible! Now I have to convince my husband to get a GE and not waste time & money fixing what will inevitably break again! Everyone should post a review under Comsumer Affairs too....if nothing else lets stop Samsung from making so much money off of us!!!!!!!
As an appliance technician i would never recommend putting paper towels over the evaporator lines or near the defrost heater. This can be a potential fire hazard and also pieces of paper towels could possibly work their way down the drain tub thus, clogging it.
Thanks for your important. So would you mind explaining to us how to fix the issue since your already here?
@@thehustlersnetworktv1033 To fix the issue properly, one needs to install Second heater - $15 part# SH201 or similar. There is a ton of videos about the repair here on RUclips
Wow, so many things wrong with this video. But the main thing is, all you need is a new style 3" evaporator clip. That's it. A 5 dollar part.
Thanks for this comment
Samsung Refrigerators are the biggest POS - How was this not recalled. Thanks for this video.
Hi to all you Samsung refrigerator owners. For the past year or two my coil has been freezing up about every 2 to 3 weeks. I have found that the heater is working and sending water down under my crisper. Now after this melting of the coil water builds up at the bottom of the coil and then freezes because the little metal piece is not long enough to keep the drain hole open. What i did is loosen the heater coil and pull it all the way down to the bottom of the metal cover at the bottom. The coil is touching the metal cover at the bottom and the little metal piece is now deep in the drain hole. I have not had any water under the crisper for 3 weeks now and no fan noise. Also not sure this made a difference but i took the white sensor an attached it to the pipe to the left of the original position. Good luck Samsung frig owners. Jimmy
Moving the sensor worked for me.
@@tracyhegr9950 Where did you move the sensor?
That is kind of a real "Mickey Mouse" repair using paper towels! There is a Samsung service bulletin out there that tells how to fix this problem a bit more properly. That fact that our brand new Samsung frig went five years before every having this problem just tells you that there is a fix without major modifications like you are doing. One of the problems is the drain tubes become clogged with crap (They can be cleaned) and then moisture builds up in the frig. Samsung has new improved drain tubes that will not clog. Thats just one fix for one problem. My guess is also all the damage you have done to the insulation from not defrosting the frig first and pulling off the cover is adding to your condensation problem since the heat from the evaporator heater is not well insulated behind the panel and you are not getting a good defrost cycle.
Ummmm. Cooking oil and paper towels next to a heater? That's a fire waiting to happen.
You can replace the element that comes with the bi metal thermostat that is attached on the the element. And possibly change the defrost sensor to avoid issue. Trust me that is why is having defrost issue.
Which element do you mean attached to the bi metal thermostat exactly, can you link an example?
Paper towels would be a fire hazard. It is time to do a real fix. Get yourself a refrigeration tech !
Samsung is the worst.
Just bought a new samsung from home depot. Friggin thing totally died after one month! Stay away!!
Hey Jake, I really appreciate you taking the time to try and help us all out. I have one of these suckers I'm dealing with the first time at my 90 year old Moms house. I called Samsung and asked it they were aware of a problem, but they denied it, and suggested I pay someone to look at it, FYI.
I know. They told me the same thing, that they are unaware of any freezing-up issues with their refrigerators. Hilarious!
Never purchase any of these products samsuck or lg (load of garbage).
Check out who makes what before you buy a new one
@@rusty-ole-boomstick1268 made in Korea!
@@nmbr1son64 Neah, i did fix alot of samsucks , All samsucks parts made in china . I'm always advice to the peoples never buy samsucks and lg ...
Samsung customer service said raise the front to lean 2 degrees out of plum so water will drain properly. After several 6-8 hr thawing processes l raised the front as much as possible with the bottom leveling screws. Hope it works. Note: 2 degrees out of plumb is ridiculous!
Did it work?
Wow there is to way I would ever advise doing this I’ve been in the appliance and hvacr business for about 17 years, this is a fire risk for sure, paper towels are not insulting materials, plus there is a heating element right there at the bottom, I have seen those elements short out down there at the drain pan and all the cooking spray and paper towel are the accelerant, I’m not actually sure what he is trying to accomplish with this video by wrapping those lines, there are work arounds with this type of refrigerator from the manufacturer to fix the freezing issues.
I know right? Wtf? That’s what I said. I also do appliance repair. But just that tho if your insulating the heating element how in the F@&k is it supposed to get the heat to melt the ice which is now gonna be further separated by layers of insulation. Some people shouldn’t try and fix stuff. If they can’t do it properly stop being a cheapskate and call someone who can do it properly. You tube can’t teach you everything or conmen sense apparently for that matter....
Yall both are thieves if yall are just telling us to call and spend more money 💰 😒 on such a crappy product and not give us an answer of your own.
Don't know, I am not an appliance tech, but I do have common sense and it tells me that placing paper towel and covering it up with AC tape just doesn't seem right. There must be another way or a much better approach.
You're wrapping paper towel around a HEATING element, inside a FALAMMABLE PLASTIC fridge. Plus there is the fire/explosion issue if the fridge is using R600. ??? Your advice is beyond stupid, it's downright dangerous.
Well, thank you for letting me know that it was ice building up. However, I do not trust your "fixes".
Duke Ferris this recommendation is a bad idea. It blocks needed airflow
DONT FOLLOW THESE STEPS! This will cause a fire !!
Flammable paper towel right next to a heating element is not a good idea.
NEVER buy Samsung appliances. They are the most absolute horrible junk you can buy. That's how you fix them. Ask ANY repair guy coming to your house how they fair in any product and they will share the nightmares.
Should have changed the drain plug. 7 dollars on Amazon the drain plug causes part of the problem
I fixed mine a different way. Found out the defrost element reached over 400F, any melting ice dripped on the defrost heating element and instantly evaporated. This caused high humidity in the refrigerator, and thus contributed to once again icing up the coils, rather than the water dripping into the hole. My fix was to add a $3 drok temp control to the 12v line that turns on the defrost heating element, and set it to cycle off and on to keep the element closer to 200F. Now humidity stays 40% to 60% vs 80 to 100%. The coils stay defrosted without build up, and it stops the viscous high humidity cycles that end up freezing to the fan. I hope someone makes a video how to do this, i am glad to help but not good at making help videos.
Hello Jake and thank you for the videos on the repair of the Samsung fridge. I have "fixed" my girlfriends fridge which has not worked properly for 2 1/2 years. I have to say that I am trying some different things to stop the icing problem and will update you if they do. Thanks again for the help with the refrigerator.
Why even bother fixing it yourself ?. You should just let SamSung warranty service a chance to do their job !.
We have the same problem with our SamSung SRF639DSS model after 4.5years working fine for our Sydney's hot climate. I called SamSung Australia explained the situation, mentioned about a few youtube video questioned the quality of SamSung's fridges. I also mentioned the fact that we use lots of SamSung house hold products including diswasher, mirowave oven, washing and dryer machine, etc. SamSung advised that it should just be a simple fix as they are standing behind the quality of their products.
The operator asked me to find the original purchasing invoice, which dated January 2012. She then sent me the repair authorisation form to sign for the repair technician on the day, and booked for us a warranty repair service for free the next day on 27 Dec 2017.
As it turned out, the auto defrost system was not working because of the blown fuse. I am happy and quite surprised and impressed with SamSung's warranty services.
Thomas Ellis you're like a Slavic bitch
Replaced a Frigidaire (1 mo old) that would not cool below 42F. with a Samsung RF268ABRS in 2011. Have had nothing but issues with the cooling, specially after an electrical power interruption. It would take up to a week for the unit to settle into the suggested -2/38F setting. Had a lot of spoiled food loss over it's lifetime.
Shelf placement is terrible, and unalterable.
My backup was a 1947 Westinghouse,and a 17 cu.ft Coldspot chest freezer (running a constant -10F.
Yesterday I had a Samsung technician in, and have him declare the RF268 not reparable for less than the cost of a new unit!
I think Samsung should stickto cell phones!
so we fixed ours about 2-3 years ago and now today we are defrosting the back again. It is frozen up again. Any one have a repeat? We added the coil to extend the heating 2-3 years ago. Samsung RF263beae is nothing but junk
Samsung sucks!!!! I will never buy another appliance from them, my ice machine freezes up every month, the washer and dryer sucks, do not buy from Samsung.
Hey jake great video..I understand there is a class action law suite against Samsung, The problem is so widespread
I saw another vid . Where they used spray foam for those areas
I saw a comment on another vid to spray the coils with Pam cooking spray to keep it from ice up. Don’t know if it works
I’m an appliance repair man. People please do not do this! This will cause a fire. Not only that but he is blocking the natural needed airflow to cool the fridge. Without the air flow properly venting into the fridge the fridge will not cool to proper temperature. The thing he is right about is that this is a common problem with Samsung fridges however the easiest and professional way to fix it is unplug it for 48 hours with all doors open to allow it to completely and naturally defrost by replace the fan if needed and replace the defrost sensor which will be either a thermostat embedded somewhere in the styrofoam near the coils or a bi metal thermistor that attaches directly to the coils. If it is a bi-metal thermistor u can test the bi-metal thermistor for continuity with a multimeter if it beeps it’s good if not it’s bad. Anyway, those two parts and the other part that could be bad would be the defrost heater itself. And lastly the tab that goes to the drain hole! .....it is not sufficiently long enough and Samsung knows this and there is a replacement tab that can be ordered that is significantly longer. Installing that tab replacement does in fact fix the icing issue of the drain plug. In my experience the thermostat is usually fine and the heater is usually ok as well.....oh and another this do not bend the fins on the evap coil they are there for a reason....anyhow it’s usually the tab that doesn’t defrost the drain. So the fam gets iced over after while and because the motor on it is trying to go anyway but not moving it burns out the fan motor. U can check fan motor by plugging it in to its slot and if u look up at the door frame of the fridge you should see one or two little switches those tell the fridge the door is closed press them in and hold them with your hands and fingers wait a few seconds and fan should start to spin if it spins it’s good if it doesn’t then replace it. To keep moisture to a minimum do not line the walls of fridge keep a 1 inch gap between sidewalls and back wall and all the groceries to allow proper air flow around everything. Also, do not put anything in your fridge without an airtight lid on it. Any fruits and veggies need to be in drawers and any meats that are wrapped and thawing should be also left on a plate and covered or in a Tupperware with a lid. If you take things out to clean make sure they are thoroughly dried before putting them back inside (shelves, drawers, etc.,,) all these factors play the most significant roles in why your fridge would be icing up a and my message should give you a self explanatory information on how by fix the issues. Please do not do this paper towels thing. This is very dangerous and cooking spray can add to the danger of starting a fire. No offense to the user who posted the videos but this is very irresponsible of a video to post without doing your due diligence.
Hi Mikey, thanks for your detailed, expert advice! I'd like to ask you... on my RS275, ice builds up around the fridge fan, and the water reservoir freezes. If I force defrost the fridge a few times, the problems go away temporarily.
Do you think it is the refrigerator temperature sensor? Thanks for any help!
Basically these fridges…Samsung, are junk. Don’t waste your time with the things. Just look how many videos about this same issue, over and over again. Take your food out, get an appliance mover and wheel that fridge to the curb and put a sign on it…free fridge. And then go down to the big box store or an appliance store and buy the cheapest fridge for $600.00that will keep your food cold. Problem solved. Your time is better spent doing something else. It’s bad when your friend calls you and ask what your doing and you have to tell him you’re defrosting the fridge again.😢
YEAH! I am now became a fridge technician after practice uninstall the back panel for 50 times ! BUT the fridge is still keeping frozen up! ONCE AGAIN, DONT BUY SAMSUNG ! OR LG, KIA, HYUNDAI....SAMSUCK .
Replacing the temperature sensor on a Samsung RS265 Side by Side refrigerator.
Sensor Part# SSGDA#@-10109W
Never buy Samsung ever. All my appliances are Samsung and they all failed within 4 years. The worst one was this Samsung French Door Fridge DA68-02603A-10. My Samsung washer is leaking. Same applies to LG Dishwasher. I am losing confidence in all Korean makes. This is so sad.
Easiest fix? Buy a better brand. Had a oven go in 7 years and 10 months, 8 years 2 months for the fridge, it needing $1280 in repairs with no guarantee. Filling the dump with Samsung. Warranty not worth the paper.
Why in gods name wouldn’t you just use silicone around the cover????
After reading about 15 comments below, I'm curious if in addition to running heat down the drain tube if running copper/aluminum wires on the heater coils in the upper/mid section horizontally to also distribute heat to the condenser coils would also aid in the evaporation and fan from freezing up helping with ventilation. Not sure how the condenser coils would affect /reduce life of the defrost coil or effect the sensors somehow.
Curious if anyone has tried this and found good results.
On my RF265 , I can select Fd = Fridge defrost.(Top and bottom) rd = Re fridge only defrost (better to save frozen food) . On my unit, the problem was the Defrost sensor for fridge BAD . ($15) . Like with normal operation (defrost after xx hr compressor run), the trouble shoot
function (rd Fd ) kicks off a defrost cycle. IF IT IS WORKING, YOU SHOULD HEAR WATER SIZZLE ON HOT COIL AFTER A FEW MINUTES. If not coil bad, or like mine sensor BAD (Open looks like 80 deg F = Defrosted) . So, if sensor bad, Fd or rd will run cycle till sensor on frozen coil > 60 deg and add 90 sec. BUT WHEN SENSOR BAD IT THINKS instantly 80+ DEG F and just runs 90 seconds, not nearly enough.
Also , Samsung recommend (on my model) service note moving clip on sensor to other tube near top. Makes it take longer to get to 60 DEG.
The 3 Freeze modes are used to test Compressor current/pressures at known drive level. The computer controls compressor motor speed for most efficient operation normally. So theses 3 "Fixed" speeds allow for Technician to make readings at fixed speed. I found service manual online Helpful I am now about 6 Months in without fan noise or rising temps. Thanks Jake for disassembly tips.
I wonder how it would work to just spray the same areas with low expansion foam insulation, emphasis on low expansion. The down side is it would be difficult to get back off if the need arose.
My Samsung froze up and the fan was hitting the ice and the noise was terrible. My fix: Max the freezer temp to 5 degrees and the upper refrigerator temp to 40. Didn't have to take anything apart. Ice apparently melted because the noise has not happened since I upped the temperatures. Freezer is plenty cold and so is the refrigerator. Just because this Jakeguitar makes a video doesn't mean he knows what the heck he is doing. Using paper towels as insulation in a damp environment shows how well thought out his fix is. It isn't.
" baseball card in spokes " ? That tells us your age bracket . You must have experience in other words
PLEASE READ!!! Had to do this every 6 months until I read that if you spray "Pam" on the coils it will prevent ice buildup. So I tried it and haven't had a problem since. 5 years and still no ice build up!
Pam?
@@htoobway2079 Pam is Cooking oil- its main ingredient is Canola oil
I just did mine. I hope this works. These samsungs are garbage. the dishwashers suck too. ended up throwing it away. Looks like I might have to do the same with this ridge.
Buy a Samsung fridge you turn yourself into a repair person fighting this fridge for years never again will I buy this product
This guy is so far off it’s almost comical. But it’s not, you my friend don’t understand how a refrigerator works at all.
The frig is a piece of junk. the solution is to take it to the dump and buy another brand.
Thank you for this diy fix. I watched all of the videos and did get my fridge to work again. Fortunately I didn’t have the trial and error you had to go through to get this fix. With COVID and being laid off I can’t afford to replace this fridge. You saved me big time, more then you know. Take care and let’s all hope for a better 2021. Thanks again.🇨🇦
This fix creates a possible fire hazard. See Thor Thumb's comment above.
I would be careful and not do what you did. I measured the temp. of the heater element at the bottom (where you put paper towels) and the hottest spot was a whopping 300F. I entered FD, forced defrost mode with the cover off. I believe these high temps are fairly typical for short periods of time. I don't think 150F would do much against all that ice. It can get so hot it glows. Also, paper towels can absorb humidity. Manufactures use foam sparingly, as needed. Second, that tape probably has a cancer warning on it. You are introducing a lot of it inside the fridge. Also when it gets hot, it can off-gas into the fridge even more...where you might have liquids, veggies, etc., that can easily absorb those fumes- then you eat them. At that point, the temperature of your orange juice is the least of your worries.
No please do not do this. I own An Appliance Company and let me tell you that’s not safe at all. There are about Three things I see that he could do. Because I have Two National licenses I can’t say. But Wow.
Didn't that extra insulation restrict air flow around the coils?
Hi, in my firdge back panel, that black tape is little melted. What shall i do ?
Bad idea! The paper towels will hold moisture and cause mold to form. Paper towels will also block airflow, causing more ice to build up.
spends way to much time diagnosising get tothe fix already we are not all idiots
Look friend, if it's that bad that you need to cover it in duct tape, then maybe you'll be better off covering the whole thing in dirt and buying a new fridge freezer.
In fact why not buy an American product if you believe Samsung is inferior.
*The amazing thing is this problem has been going on since before 2010 and Samsung kept denying AND making the exact same crap so do yourself a favor and junk these lemons you'll be much happier.*
My refrigerator is having a similar issue. I can no longer open the ice maker door to defrost it with the hair dryer. It's frozen over along with the cooling fan compartment in the refrigerator. I use an electronic thermostat to keep a check for the actual temperature in the refrigerator and freezer. The refrigerator is at 50 degrees and there is water pooling under the deli tray. The water then spills onto the floor and I have to remove the deli tray to clean the water out. All of this happened to me in 2017 and I now have the same issue. I've call Samsung and they refuse to acknowledge that they have a manufacture defect on the refrigerators. They told me since this is out of warranty that I would have to pay for repairs. Well the ice maker has been an issue for me for years. I have to defrost it with a hairdryer about once a month and here I am again in 2020 having to get the same repair that was performed in 2017 which tells you all they did was put a bandaid on the problem without addressing the real issue which is this thing can not be fixed. Of course, I've requested a refund and they deny that they are at fault and will not give me a refund. I have filed a complaint with the BBB.
Hello, used appliance store? Yes I want the old school Whirlpool simple plain old two door frig. Do you have them? Sure do. I'll be right down there. My new $2500 Samsung 3 month old frig is dead.
Do they have two I want one also
Please cancel this video due to the fire hazard it creates. please !!!!!
Everyone it’s the drain tube check valve causing the air to come in. They sell a new style check valve and sticker kit for the Samsung fridge. He was right about air freezing up through the drain tub through under the evaporator to the drip pan. The check valve tub is behind the fridge take the bottom cover off it’s hanging into the drip pan.
Louis, has this fix work for you so far you posted it a month ago, how is your fridge working ?
Thank you for the info.. I have insulated the lines that you did but did it with insulated foil tape and zip ties. Wish I could show my pics of the work.. my refrigerator actually seems like it's cold and like the temp gauge is working now to.. it uset to just say 34 at all times even with the door open for a while. So far.. it's been a week..
I have read that if you tilt the refrigerator back so that it is not level from front to back (front being higher) that it helps....defrosting mine now...ugh such a pain
Samsung should just stick to electronic devices
How much for this heater system want to try it
You should try fixing Shoe's its safer for you and others... You creating a FIRE RISK!!
Don't Do This!!!!!
The holes are part of the airflow system that allow your refrigerator to get cold. Don't cover the holes!!! If you cover the holes, it will never get cold enough to keep your food fresh.
If the thermostat is not working, replace it. Same thing for the heating coil. My problem has been with the cover design. The heating coil is on the bottom and does not generate enough heat to reach the top near the fan.
The be covers are designed with stainless steel, not the crappy foil, and carry the heat up the sheet of metal to the coils.
It's a real shame that we got stuck with the lemons. It's, also, a shame that manufacturers at knowingly making crap that lasts 7-10 years if you're lucky! My parent's fridge lasted 30 years. The next one lasted 25! They know exactly what they are doing! They raise the price for all the bells and whistles and sell cheaper products with cheap components designed to fail so that we must buy a new one! Simple, cheap, and energy efficient with water and ice coming out of the door: Is that really so much for which to ask?
This coil freezing in French-door-style Samsung Refrigerators has been resolved several years ago. The problem is in the alignment of the refrigerator. The front of the refrigerator needs to be a bit higher than the rear of the refrigerator. This allows the proper self-defrosting and draining. See us.community.samsung.com/t5/Kitchen-and-Family-Hub/Evaporator-Fan-freezing-RF263BEAESR-French-door-refrigerator/td-p/63478
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Mine stays higher in the front because my floor is uneven. It still froze up under the crisper. I did the copper wire into drain and it gave me 2 more years. Starting to ice again.
OMG fire hazard. Don't do this.
Don't forget the faulty icemaker!
Thank you JakeGuitar, we were thinking about buying a new frig. then checked out your videos. We emptied out the fridge and a few hours later no ice and put it all back. It runs fine and all is good. Thank you.
i cannot express my gratitude enough for this solution. I swear to god I was this close to throwing my samsung in the dump. Thanks!
You still might have to dump your fridge. These videos will only postpone the inevitable....
Thanks for all presentation help a lot but honesty Samsung is bad. thanks again
Seriously? We never had a problem in 14 years, trouble started when I moved it without switching off
My samsung 260 ltr double door refrigerator is electrically shocking ( there is no earthing in building), what is the probable cause???????
In my opinion refrigerator must not give electrical shock whether it's body is connected to earth or not.
+Sunil D ---> There is no fix. Samsung refrigerators are supposed to shock you every time you touch the door. Samsung invented that as a diet aid. Were you overweight when you bought the refrigerator? Maybe the salesperson threw in the shocking door feature because he thought it would help you stick to your diet.
Jake-I am now in the midst of a 2nd repair in 8 months....and now I understand Samsungs' thought process in developing these "one of a kind" products. thanks for the insight...and a belly laugh-which I need right now-
Good video crappy Samsung, thanks
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Fixes ice below drawer issue . Fridge warm, another issue.
The REAL PROBLEM is actually NOT all this. REPLACE THE FIN TO THE DRAIN HOLE with a piece of 14 gauge copper wire gently looped around the bottom of the heating element. There are other videos that show exactly how to do this, and is a permanent fix.
The SYMPTOM of this being the REAL PROBLEM is water in and/or under the bottom drawers.
So all the other "fixes" that people try including this or replacing the defrost sensor do not solve the REAL ISSUE.
Make sure the copper wire sticks at least 2 - 3 INCHES INTO THE DRAIN HOLE. It will go down at an angle from the hole into the tube.
This WILL PREVENT the hole from CLOGGING WITH ICE. The excess water WILL DRAIN AS IT SHOULD to the evaporation drip tray under the heat exchanger under the fridge. And the Samsung fridge will then function perfectly, as it should.
Jake this video is not safe.
Mine froze every other week
Doesn’t that coil get hot?
I have samsung RF28HFEDBWW Has had problems since the start A year ago this same issue evap freezing.....I replaced the temp sensor and lasted a year. Now its been freezing over again every week. just so frustrating/enraging. I am replacing the defrost thermostat, f that won't fix= 1 then replacing heater unit, if that won't fix, 2 on to control board, if that won't fix I am going to beat the (*&% out of it w/ a hard tool to dismantle it, with the rest of it I will drive it to the recycling yard, dragging it behind the truck with a chain!!!!!.......(well probably not all that I will probably get rid of it somehow still)
To put a Samsung refrigerator into forced defrost mode you need to press a few button sequences:
-Press both the “Power Freeze” and “Fridge” buttons at the same time.
-Hold both buttons in until display beeps and goes blank.
-To force fridge defrost element to come on, press “Freezer” button a second time.
-To force defrost on both the refrigerator and freezer sections, press the “freeze” button a third time.
Does it works?
@@htoobway2079 It is not a permanent solution but easier than removing front cover.
Great Video! It helped me dissect the fridge..However, I bought a new defrost sensor thinking that was it and still not working. After all ice melted and dried, still reading 60+ degrees...WTF do I do now? Sounds like fans are working...I'm no expert at this, just taking people's advice..Anybody know what else it could be? Samsung RF263AEWP..
Get A Clue Marketing Show I have a model RT38MASW.(Samsung). It is not cooling the lower part.The freezer part is OK.I change the thermostat but same problem
Hey, I finally had to suck it up and pay $75 for a technician, to come out a diagnose my fridge. Why? Because too many people (aka experts) said it could be this or that. I change PCW inverter board, defroster, and still had same problem. One online expert said, I have a leak in my system, based on irregular frost pattern on my coils and that it was not worth repairing. I was totally depressed. Then, others said could be door switch, could be main temp board, evap fan, etc. Finally, paid the guy to come out $75 (cheapest in area), said it was the evap fan. and the harness was broken. wire came loose. And he said nothing else is wrong with it, and coils were cooling fine, no leaks, as previously said. In fact, I took back panel out to remove fan, left it off and fridge is at normal 36 degree temp. If you're good with volt/ohm meter start checking around.