TIG Welding Rods, Tig Rod Storage, and Arc Shots
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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I Finally got around to making some rod holders for the many, many TIG rods I have. 1-1/2" PVC pipe, couplings, and end caps make some pretty decent tig rod holders. Now all that is left is to make a wall rack and maybe even a new welding cart that will hold several of these. ER70s-2, er308L, er309L, 4043 aluminum, and silicon bronze ...or aluminum bronze will take care of most welding jobs....you never know what filler rod you need to repair a customers part, but these few rods will get you off to a great start.
Country Welding Supply Pompano Florida $35 for 80CU tank. These guys gave great service in purging and filling my new owner tank within 30 min of my arrival. First time customer, no account needed. No exchange needed. Just yes sir, and thank you sir. Done with a smile and some helpful technical information for a new comer.
I've got to say, I've learned more about Tig welding in an hour watching some of your video's than I have reading books and watching other people's instructional video's in a year! I bought a Lincoln 225 precision Tig a few years ago and had all but given up trying to weld with it until watching your video's, now I have a new found interest in trying to Tig with again. Thank you so much for doing these, it appreciated more than you'll ever know!!!
Great tips Jody! Thank you!
Your aluminum bronze welds are awesome!
Adam
Jody, first thank you for all the videos you are producing. I just got my HTP221 with cooler and have been practicing for now for a little over a day. After having many problems day one then reviewing your tips and a few others RUclipsrs well day two just started and things are SO SO SO much better. Thank you again many times over!!!
Please help. I went over a thread with a filler rod and i cannot cut threads on it. Its too hard.
What filler rod do i need to be able to cut threads on it ?
I used ER70S and i have ER308L but did not try it yet.
here in the UK, I pay £35 for 75/25 mig mix, £65 for argon and here's a shock, £485 for general purpose helium and £850 for certified 99.9999% helium, keep up the great vids, I've learnt a huge amount from you, thanks
I also like keeping 70s-6 around for mild steel. Comes in handy when you get dirty material and don't have time to clean it properly. Will produce good welds even through mill scale, oil, paint, and even slight rust. I have even pulled it right off of a MiG spool...
Nice idea for rod strorage, doing these this weekend! No more half torn cardboard boxes! Gonna do that for everything, tig rods, arc rods, thungstens, etc!
I have the big 330cf tanks. I just drove up to Milwaukee to get Argon. It's only $60 for 330cf there. In northern Illinois it's $140 for the same 330cf. Been a long time since I bought 75/25, and I can't remember how much I paid back then. Your YT channel is excellent. Thanks!
Where did you get the wide based combo square? I did the same thing with PVC (I used conduit) then made a board with the appropriate holes to hold the holders in line along the back of my vise bench between it and the wall. I did not cap mine but glued a sleeve on it and then gorilla glued it to the wood block in a vertical position. Great idea. I use the PVC for many things. Also converted an old hot water tank into a horizontal insulated warm storage box for my stick rod as I don't use it much since the advent of home mig welders (some of my stick is from the seventies! Bought a few hundred pounds at a going out of business sale.) and I live in a temperate rain forest. Keep it at 100+ degrees and it stays good, even 7018. It was a good welding project. Always enjoy your channel--well almost always!
I have done cast repair with silicon bronze in dc - with helium and it worked out great .
I always go to you videos when I have questions. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Same size Argon is $28 in Cincinnati.
I made she same rod holders a few months ago. Works great!
Hi Jody I know this is a old video but i want to say It'm just a hobby welder and I hear about proper storage of rod especially 7018 this is a old trick my grandpa taught me I store my 7018 rod in 3 in pvc contain with a screw on cap and. I drill the glue on cap end but in shut off valve then a small brass tee and 2 hose fitting 1 I connect. To flow meter on argon tank other 1 I connect to a hand vaccum pump I suck it down to 10 inches of vaccum then open argon tank and put in about 5 or 7 psi using gauge on vaccum pump then close valve and store under pressure in argon pressure tank I have stored 7018 rod for years like this runs like new out of the box I know this is probably not ideal but for what I do works great u can build these pressure storage vessels for like 20$ each
Atalanta GA, just purchased a S size cylinder for $283 and it was filled with 100% argon. The refill on the cylinder is $32.50, my 75/25 mix is $35.00 to refill
You the man jody. I dont mind the commercials I think everyone who learns anything from your channel should buy something from the weldmonger store to support qhat hou do for everyone. I'm fixing to order a rig finger myself....
Just swapped my own 160 cu. ft. bottle for 75/25 mix yesterday and it was $51 + tax from Praxair in SC!!!!! I can get it for $26 closer to home but the counter man is a horses rear and has sent me home with empties on 3 occasions. Noticed you did not mention coat hanger material for non structural ornamentals...
I just bought a 125 CF bottle $210 and $51 for argon fill in central Michigan. Same town another supplier gets $250 and $75 so I learned to shop around.
Great recommendation list. Maybe add some nickle for cast jobs. I know silicone bronze or alum will work but I'd bet the nickel is stronger being closer in properties to the parent metal
Hi Jody I know this is an older video but I wanted to know what's holding your tig rod tubes up I made a bunch and want to get that rack. Thanks Again for all you do for us veiwers.
Great Idea Used The Basic Idea, TY for all The Video's. Don't give up teaching us and sharing. Mick PHX AZ.
I got a milwaukee fastback razor knife. Stores 4 extra blades to. You press the button and flick it open and closed. I use it hours at a time wrapping duct at a sheet metal shop and opening packages. Then whatever stuff outside of work i find myself doing. 7 months and nicely worn in
Thanks for passing on all that very useful knowledge, good welders in the UK never help you with stuff like this when you are learning, I guess they are worried you are going to take their jobs! really enjoy watching your videos. 👍
Great video, Jody. I lease a 330 cubic foot argon bottle for 90 bucks a year, and a refill costs about 90 bucks. I am in BC, Canada.
Hello Jody I like to watch your videos you teach a lot of good things about Welding and all the tricks I'm building a milling machine and I need to do some wells TIG welding what is the rod that you would recommend on these wells
I would love it if you could do a video on different types of tig cups and what application they could be used for.
Hey jody! In order to get Argon in Norway you have to pay 220$ for 11L of Argon. Love your Tigfinger, use it all tre time at work!
Hi Jody which diameter for Ercusi-a do you suggest to buy as all purpose or playing around rod. I can get 1,6mm , 2mm or 2,4mm.
Great videos 👍🏻
I bought a DEKOPRO Stick/Lift Tig welder machine. It was cheap as chips tbh but I had to buy a seperate Lift Tig Torch.. I'm a complete newb to this game save for a year back in the 80's, that's the 1980's man when I was in Metalwork class in high school as u would call it in the US. Here in IRELAND we call it secondary school but I did some gas/acetylene welding and Arc welding back when I was 12/13 yrs old.. I loved it but tbh I loved the acetylene better than the stick welding. I kept getting stuck to the workpiece.. LMAO
I have only recently bought 2 small inverter welding machines so I can Tig weld on one and keep the other one for stick welding. I don't really want to be running both but it's a lot less hassle changing thing out all the time.
The DEKOPRO machine is a decent little mahine tbh. I've never TIG welded b4 so this is brand new to me.. This was a brilliant video packed full of the kind of information I will need so now it's dropped into my welding playlist.. Thanks man.. Salute to u sir from Dublin, IRE..
G'day Jody, this was a really good article. I am a newbie in Australia and presently setting up my TIG bay in the shed so your info was well timed. I know it comes so naturally to you but sometimes could you mention the handpeice sizes you are also using for a particular job. Also, can you explain what is commonly called "Euro" in regards to TIG handpeices. I recently purchased a Weldsmart Synergic 250A AC/DC Pulse TIG that came equipped with a WP26 euro handpeice and I am laying beads with 1.6, 2% Thoriated tungsten using ER70S-4 wire on about 51A (16 gauge MS sheet) and it is ok but I find the WP26 handpeice really cumbersome and tiring on my wrist. Is it best to go to a smaller handpeice on smaller jobs, eg WP9F. Also, if I am using a WP26 and 3.2mm tungstens would you expect the shielded arc to be the same size as using a WP9 with 1.6mm tungsten. Another question please, can you have a single cable from your machine that can be interchanged with several heads, eg WP9, WP17, WP26 and finally, if most cables are similar why do some machines have 2 pin control interface connectors, others 4 or as with mine 5. Really love your articles and get heaps of good theory to go away and learn (or balls up). Cheers Gordon
I purchased a #9 torch after a few weeks of learning/practicing with the included #26 size torch and it was the best thing I ever did for my progress. Also get a nice high quality supple lead to your torch, as the included leads on the chinese TIGS are usually very stiff and will fight you all the way.
Flexible torch head and foot pedal are also very helpful!
Good luck
Jody what kind of tig machine U use most time? what You think about Tigs made in PRC?
I have the swag bandsaw stand and it is awesome, surprising how much you use something like that.
I pay about $30 for 140c.f. Argon and about $40 for 75/25 and $110 for Helium, in South West Ohio
Jody, did you ever go over the rack setup? I have an idea but not sure about the parts.
I have a 75/25 bottle about 3/4 as tall as the ones shown in the video and it is around $47 to get filled here in Grand Rapids, Michigan from Airgas
just got a large pure helium and it was just shy of 300 Canadian. argon is about 100, i run 92 8 mig gas winch run's about 87. all where large as there is no saving for having smaller tanks plus a year contract of 150. four 4 bottles. O2 run's 38.00
I just bought that same knife a couple weeks ago. Good knife.
As always good info. I've been welding for 20 some years and I learn a lot from these videos.
I have tig rod holders made from steel pipe. I know this is fine for ER-70 filler and 309L, and I am guessing that 312 rod is probablly fine as well because they're used to weld carbon steel. BUT, will this adversely affect 308 filler and alluminum filler? I'm worried I could be get some carbon pickup on the very ends of the rods, and potentially on ANY part of the rod that comes into contact with the mild steel. Perhaps I could place some plastic in the end of the tube to prevent the stainless/mild steel contact, or even just get into the habbit of snipping off 1/2" before welding stainless with wire that's been in contact with carbon steel. Anyway, thank you for your input.
Bloomburg PA
mix argon/co2 160cu tank $47.90
pure argon 350cu $127.60
thanks for the video and keepem comin
Great video Jodi, could you possibly do a video on tig brazing, I know you have shots in other videos but something more on amperage and different metals, currently I'm trying to tackle cast iron and bought both silicon bronze and aluminum bronze great tip! still a newbie here though!
I think you been peeking in my shop. I have got PVC pipe rod holders but I used male and female screw fittings in the middle to seperate. Nice
Hey Jody what do you think of the Tip TIG process??
Thx for another great video!
In Russia we have to pay $9 for co2, $10 for Ar/co2 mix and $11 for pure Argon.
Pure helium costs a lot - about $70-80.
It's all about 40 litres.
Hello. U forgot a zero behind the prices on co2 and argon/co2 mix? And are they all 40 litres? Regards
Great tips for the person who has just acquired a Tig welder. Have you made a video where the material you are Tig welding on has been in used? Materials with dirt or oil, lots of rust. I know that to achieve the best welds the surface has to be cleaned as much as possible but will using Tig be able to do the job?
+Jacob Esparza No, must be clean from oil, you answered your own question.
+david eirth The reason I say that is. All videos I've seen have been working on scrap metal or new material. I'm in the automotive field and most of the time things that need repair are full of oil and crud. I know they have to be cleaned as much as possible but would be nice for Jody to make a video about it.
here in New Zealand I pay $18 per month rental and it's about $380 per swap/fill. that is a G size bottle. think it's 10m3.
Hi there. I have a problem to find "Silicon Bronze" in my country. I do believe that material exist, but under some other name. Can you tell me which materials are combined to get that rod and do you know markings, like AISI standard marking 307LSI for 18-8-6 LSI that I use to weld Armor plates for example... PS, Sorry for bad grammar, I am from South East Europe
Hi Jody,
loving all your videos.
What would you recommend to use to tig 316 stainless, wall thickness sprucing l approximately 1.6mm.
keep up the great work from oz.
Darryl
Is same fill rod to tungsten size a good rule for beginners ? Like would a red 1/16 tungsten work well with 1/16 Er70s2?
Hey Jody, is it acceptable to use argon or 75/25 gas cylinders in an almost horizontal position? I want to build a welding table with shelves to store the tanks as well as machines. It would be nice to not have the tanks sticking up above the table surface. Thanks!
Where is a difference between rod 316L and 318L in practice? I have found that they are marked like with the same numbers 19-12-3, and just letter markings are different NCSi and NBSi. What makes or does it makes difference when I use them to weld stainless steel 316L salt water tank with working temperature under 100 degrees Celsius? Sorry for so many questions, I don't have proper literature to find answers by my self :(
Thanks in advance ...
Just a question about welding in general. How do you know what method of welding to use? Does it have to do with the type of metal you're using or what you plan to weld?
+Cody Sims With Jody it's what the customer wants, if it's his own project it's to do with how much heat his job can handle and metal type , sometimes if hes welding mild steel he may just flip a coin. He has the gear to weld anything with any method. Google is your friend.
75/25 about $63.00 argon about $66.00 Northwestern pa Midway between Erie and Pittsburgh Pa. Exchange. Great videos.
I live in Rhode Island. I have smaller tank (55cft. I think). Arcon cost $60 to fill. But I did a job for my wife she works at local university. We went to airgas and she filled the same tank. $12! Lol. Love your vids.
$100 for 300cf Argon, did have 150cf tank and I was paying $76, so bumping up made sense to me, plus less time running to Airgas. Central PA.
What is the advantage of making storage tubes over keeping the rods in the containers they came in?
I'm paying between $20 - $25 to get my argon tank refilled. My yearly lease fee is about $50. I live in Oklahoma City.
when welding mig, stick, or fcaw in the horizontal position, is it better to go from bottom to top, or top to bottom? or is both ok?
That tip about the 309 filler being bubble resistant when welding over prior welds or unknown quality base metal was great. I have run into those situations a few times and I will be sure to remember that in the future. Keep doing what your doing, I love your videos, they have made me a better welder.
My "M" tanks (137 cf) run me about $27 for argon and $30 for 75/25 in north central Indiana
have found long tube plastic bags i don't remmender were i got that roll from put them in the plastic stoped them from rolling around when going to job sites in the tubes
like i do like the from weld stick welding rods too put 10 rods inside and can seal the ends up too rubber band round the end after you seal the bag up i don't have a larger number of open rods on the truck too
Here in Argentina, the price is about u$s11.48 the m3 of pure argon, i've just started on TIG welding so never refilled yet, i have a 4.5m3 cylinder
Prices in Romania : In only use C18 gas, and for a cylinder with 150 bar refill, I paid less than 20 to 25 $.
Thank you for the videos sir and keep up the good work.
Hey Jo, do u have a vid of the rack for the PVC holders. I made some (PVC) myself but I don't have a way of storing them and a rack would be nice.
your size in Melbourne Australia is costing me 180 for argon or argosheild. Expensive and this was about 6 years ago when I wanted a bit of practice when working on Bechtel gas plant.
Can’t find 0.045 Er70-6 available online anywhere. Kinda far from a welding supply shop. In Canada. Any help finding some?
Love your videos and bought your labor day special! I just bought a Tig welder and will pick up a bottle of argon on Tuesday and want to get some filler rod. Is there a major difference between brands of rod? I am most specifically wondering about ER70s-2 right now but I am wondering about other alloys as well. I know there can be a huge difference in the stick electrodes and I have had bad luck with off brand mig wire and fluxcore.
I paid 77$ at airgas in central Wisconsin to have an 80 filled 100% argon. I think it costs the same regardless of size.
Ine s.p.a, located in Cittadella, Italy.
I live in Padova, near Cittadella, and i discover only now watching this video of the existence of this factory! XD
Jody why you buy from this factory?
I'm very happy to have found your channel, all the videos are very helpful for starting tig weld, I work in a cars bodyshop from 10 years and I'm a good MIG welder but TIG it's a new world for me, go on this way Jody!
Great video Jody 👊🏻 right now it’s July 2018 and last trip to airgas I paid about $50 from airgas for 100% argon tank 125cf tank. That’s in Florida and I do not have an account at airgas just bought the tank there.
Hi jody ! If I want to tig weld a engine parts (aluminum cast ) what rod do you recommend !! wilbe help verymuch if you can do a video on it ! Thank you !!
Northwest Ohio here. A 330 cubic foot bottle of 100% CO2 is approximately $55, a 330 bottle of 75/25 (Ar/CO2) is approximately $95, 330 bottle of 100% Argon is approximately $85, 280 bottle of 100% O2 is approximately $30. I've priced a 280ish bottle of 100% Helium before and was quoted almost $200. These prices are quite accurate but, as stated, approximate as of summer/fall of 2016
Good rod holders - I like the clips, so you can get your rods easily when used on the othere side of your room :-)
Any ideas how to handle used (shorter) rods? When storing it in these rod holders it is difficult to get them out. That's annoying - how do you handle them?
Just filled my 125 bottle of 75/25 in Kona Hawaii for $240 and change 50 mi away. But the good news; In Hilo 75 mi away it's only $180 +. And now Shell regular is down to $3.16 so what a deal !!!!!!
Airgas Hawaiian walk in rates are $320 each to swap out a 120 of argon or 75/25. Craziest rate I've seen. Thankfully found a friend who buys in bulk and he helped me out.
Gas has gone up a ton, my 80 cu’ tank is 65 dollars now. Those were 120 cube tanks I believe.
I just made the same pvc rod holders for my welding cart out of 2" pvc.
Where is a good place to buy filler wire in bulk? I'm just getting into TIG and a pound of wire is expensive.
SW florida. Owned cylinders. Current (4/21) prices for my 3R (300cf) cylinders are...$110 for c25, $113 for straight argon, $50 for oxygen and $107 for 25lb of propylene.
Finally! A great video showing what ross to buy for the real world. Weldmonger might want to sell "starter packs" of these rods. So I can try alum bronze without buying a while pound :p
hey Jody You are the best. just want to know whether you deliver to India Goa.
Hey Jody, Here is sunny California 155 SCF Argon is $94.62
I live in Marin County, north end of the Bay Area, just across the Golden Gate from San Fran. I got taken for a ride by Airgas for a couple bottles this week. I bought 2 125x bottles to the tune of $350.73 each then they charged me $111.74 for the one full of straight argon and $123.27 for the 75/25 mix (With tax, that's $988.72 for 2 bottles the same size as the ones in your video). Newbie mistake I guess because I sure won't be going back there, lol. They charged me $58 for a pound of stick and $42 for another one and both are listed on their website for $38. I didn't know until I got home. I'll drive 2 counties over if I have to before going back to these guys. Is Airgas a ripoff like this everywhere?
i have a returnable bottle 20l at 200bar(about 140CF?) it costs 45€ to get a full one.
(the fee for the bottle is 165€ once), I buy it in south Germany.
In Austria, where i live, at most distributers you have to buy the bottle, costs about 250€ (20l 200bar) and it has to be inspected every 10 years, it costs ~50-100€ to be filled.
+Carl Benz prices for Argon, but it's nearly the same for argon/co2.
Helium for welding applications costs about 4 times a much, that's the reason no one uses it.
+Carl Benz Helium is a "Funny" story , I wish a reasonable substitute could be found,blended .
Love me some ER70S6.
I pay 47 to swap out a 80cuft argon bottle in 2019. 80 is the largest an individual can own and swap in my area. Wish I had a 330.
Can you tell me what type of Tig tungsten rod is the best to weld bronze..I am new to all this TIG process and I and having a hard time finding the way and the good tecniques
+Alambique Mejico If you look up the welding wire you will be using from the manufacturer it will give you good info (settings etc.); for example if you are going to use a Harris Silicone Bronze (see page 2 of the following)
file:///C:/Users/owner/Downloads/SiliconBronzeSpec.pdf
+Chevy Cam ...ok thanks buddy..
I think my Argon is about $80 hire pa and $130 to refill. Wish australia's gas prices were more like the USA.
Size T, about $100 Sacramento, CA. I guess that's not a bad price considering the size (338CF).
I have an Argon 80 that Airgas charges me $50 to refill. I'm in the southeast US.
Jody don't you have a video where you TIG weld with MIG wire?
Northeast PA , 300 CF Argon $70-75 , 140 CF Argon $35
Whoa...what the hell? I have mere 80 CF tanks and it costs me $75-80 to get them swapped out in Northern California, for either pure argon or 75/25. Am I being ripped off? There are only a couple of places to do this near me, and they both charge about the same.
HI,super great idea thanks to share it with us !!!!
Here is Denmark, 20L argon is around 118$ to swap and if i dont transport it myself then i have to pay 59$ for transport
80cf tank of pure argon costs $60 through Airgas in Jacksonville, FL
Hey Jody did you ever work with duplex/superduplex steel?
I just paid ~$75 for a fill of Argon in an owned 250cf bottle a couple of months ago. Consumer price at the counter, not company discount.
Tukwila, Washington @ Central Welding Supply
I bought a small rig a while back to weld thin metal.....and then....lol...still haven't mastered the tig process yet.
Great Vid nice to know on AL bronze and Sil bronze. My Best Tighe